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In light of O2 Germany announcing that they will be releasing the wizard as the XDA Mini S, I have just spoken to O2 (UK)'s Marketing Dept & they Officially confirmed they will be follcwing suit, with a UK release date of late October or early November, (stock & supply pemitting, (haha, hehe), they also confirmed that it will be released in the UK under the brand name of the XDA Mini Pro instead of Mini S, GET EM WHILE THERE HOT BOYS (or not, as the case may be)
Regards & Best Wishes Ash'e.
October / November. Jeez that is ages away.
I'm now looking at the Tornado (i-mate SP5) but from looking on the Expansys site where you can pre-order this it is very very expensive.
O2 (UK) XDA Mini S Pricing
The Price of the XDA Wizard Pro looks like its going to be £199.99-GBP or less, sounds like a good deal to me, think I will leave the Tornado or XDA Phone well alone in light of that.
Regards Ash'e
The waiting is killing me...
Terran
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The waiting is killing me...
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Don't get me started. I've had mine on order since August and I've been without a phone for a month :|
£474 actually: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518
Actually not with an O2 Contract
Actually I need a new O2 contract, so instead of buying the I-Mate sim free version online, think I will hang on that little bit longer & get the XDA Mini Pro version of the HTC Wizard & save myself £300.00 GBP, since I need a new phone contract as I will need to make phone calls next year.
Always beer an early (wait for a good deal) adoptor, not an early, early take what ever deal I can, merely to get my hands on the latest kit first adoptor, you no I have always found what a difference a month can make when buying newly released tech.
Besides which my contact at O2 said that there is a chance that with the right contract it could even be free, (best for business 250 or above).
Oh on a foot note 02 business is offering completely free of charge GPRS access within reasonable usage limits (not more than 38 megs download a month).
All in all if you get a free Wizard and free GPRS access and some exclusive minutes every month for 18 months, sounds like a good deal to me.
Regards Ash'e
Where did you see unlimted data?
I'm buying a jasjar now w/o2 plan, not busniess, though I can, would love the data bit...
Its only available when you buy direct from O2 & when it is an XDA branded product & is available from the 15 of October, ethical usage does apply though.
Regards Ash'e
Are you sure that ethical usage does not apply?
So it would mean unlimited 3g? Skype calls and all? Unbelievable. Also, how do you know it is only available from the 15th vs the 3rd as o2 say? ( I spoke with o2 business today)
Not quite that easy
Although in theory Skype should work on GPRS, they say on the Skype site that there are problems with it, & Personally I have never managed to get it to work, usually lock in to a free WiFi Zone to use Skype.
Besides Which a Skype call on GPRS, would be highly bandwidth/megabyte intensive, which would be in contradiction of the O2 ethical usage limits.
However as to the date that is what I was told over the phone, could have moved it up my contact is one of my best mates from Oxford Uni who managed to become a director of O2 (lucky sod) but he does sometimes get his dates wrong he works in IT not marketing,
Nevertheless there is (within certain limits) free GPRS, which with a free XDA Mini Pro, & some inclusive minutes & texts I think its still a good deal and a great money saver,
Regards Ashe
Free Grprs - Data
This is the first i hear about this usage policy, but I thought the free data, whether 3g or gprs (I am getting the jasjar on an 02 contract for minutes, not data) was indeed only for o2 business users, and not the o2 35mb data only tarif (35GBp). I am confused as where the data is free.
You can have a data only business tariff, but that has a 35mb limit, besides, I don't know how you find unlimited data on o2??? (I get GPRS bills)
Let Me Explain
My buddy at O2 lets me know what the best deals are that are coming up, however O2 has a strict policy of not releasing any information to even its sales staff untill at max a couple of days before they become active, because if they did a lot of people would keep waiting for the better deals and this could makes there sales eratic.
As a customer they want you to take the best deal that is available at the time not what is on the cards in a months time.
O2 are trying to get there GPRS usage up and have come up with a plan to get more of there XDA business users used to using GPRS and the internet on there devices, knowing full well that once they get use to it even when the offer ends they will more than likely keep using it after experiencíng its advantages first hand.
I am just lucky that a director at O2 likes to keep me sweet because of certain aspects of my work and my long freindship with him, because of this I get the luxury of a little bit of pre-release information, thats all, believe me I always joke with him about giving me a little bit more for old times sake, I never get it though, although I do with a little bit of patience always get a good deal, he has never let me down yet, it was him that told me to hang on for the release of the XDA Mini Pro, and the unreleased release date for it, although O2 UK will corfirm that they definitely are releasing the XDA Mini Pro, my buddy just let me know when and what good deals would be attached to it.
Regards Ash'e
Softly, Softly Catchee Monkey.
In Light of some of the Sim Free prices I Keep seeing around this site, I think that maybe it might be worth waiting for some of the contract deal with the big providers.
Regards Ash'e
Sorry guys if this has been mentioned already, but for anyone that's missed this, what do you think of the 'magicians' successor, o2s' branded xda Atom?
Same form factor as the magician, but with WM 5.0, 128 Rom, on-board wifi, 262k QVGA screen, integrated FM Radio and a .....yes...2 megapixel camera upgrade!
I'm getting seriously confused. If we can believe these specs, it really throws a spanner in the works for me. I mean, I've pretty much decided on the Universal (just not sure on MDA Pro or o2s' Exec) but this 'Atom' thing is a serious upgrade from the old Jam and remains 'pocket friendly'. Opinions anyone...advice would be appreciated.
Anyway check this link and judge for yourselves.
read more here: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39095540p,00.htm
i don't have any "sources" but i called up 02 and they confirmed that it will be released on the 3rd and the mini s should be out by the end of the year as they have it on there system as a near future release
To jaythemagicain:
if that post of yours was in response to mine,...thanks alot! I'll need to check out both the Exec and the Atom side by side, in person, to get a clearer perspective on things.
I was seriously contemplating the MDA Pro due out hopefully end of this month,...but now, can't wait till the 3rd! What's a few more days, right?
The Atom is Confusing Me To:
I have to admit that all the recent news as regards the XDA Atom, is confusing me to, had almost decided on the Wizard or XDA Mini Pro as they are now calling it unlike XDA Mini S there calling it in Germany, now however, the XDA Atom slowley creeps in and confuses us all again, a few confirmed specs would be really usefull.
Even Jag at O2 has heard nothing about it yet & I don't even know if it is anything to do with HTC.
Has anyone got any updated specs to put us all out of our misery
Regards Ash'e
It could be that it's the same sort of thing like voda and orange did when they basically made the jam but reworked it and made the vpa/spv versions.Perhaps one of the mini s's,but the keyboardless version,and reworked?
The Phantom Atom
Been searching for hours on the Internet & making lots of phone calls to everyone I know that may have any information on the Atom but to no avail, and no definative answer or information looks like we are just going to have to be patient, as I have said in other post this is almost like searching for the Holy Grail of Smartphones.
Every body loved the size of the magician, but wanted 128 Megs, WiFi & WM2005, but not to many people wanted the extra size, the slide out keyboard that caused the extra size or to have a slower CPU. Well it appears that the elusive XDA Atom fullfills all of these criteria, but is more elusive than the Holy Grail. However you can bet a pound to a dollar, that it will not reach Europe, and definatly not the UK, perhaps the operators are afraid to many people will buy them and start using Skype on WiFi, and effect there profits, it would certainly be easier to sell to the youth market because of its form factor.
Perhaps HTC should be listening to some of the comments on this forum as I reckon they could have a world beating Iconic device if they only thought about it and listened to what people are saying.
Oh well I will get down from my Soap Box now, any comments Chaps
Regards Ash'e
Orange can sell the HD with an exclusive deal in the UK starting first week of November untill years end......
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/27/orange-helps-itself-to-british-exclusive-on-touch-hd/
Worst network and it's exclusive for 3 months. So I'll have to wait for another 3 months I so want to upgrade but no good phone and the phone I want is on the wrong network.
HTC you have let me down
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HTC you have let me down
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...but not me
250mb browsing not cool. But it is only exclusive till the end of the year as it would be stupid for HTC to just keep it on Orange.
Orange would have to pay me to stay with them. Even here in the well-populated south east of England their network is the worst I've ever used. There's no way I'll get another phone with them so the HD will either come to me sim-free from someone like Expansys or I'll wait until the new year until I can get it from O2, who have the best tariff deals at the moment and whose network was excellent when I used my Exec.
Orange - if you're reading this, SORT IT OUT.
O2 might not release this phone on their networks, it wouldnt be the first time they havent released HTC phones, they have no reason to release every Phone HTC make, especially if its going to directly compete with something they are already selling, id hedge my bets by renewing my contract, getting the most expencive phone on the market and then sell it, then buy the Touch HD for full price else where.
How will this affect Sweden? Will we have to wait extra for the phone, or will it be released as normal?
I would have a bet that O2 won't be getting the HD ever, they have already listed the diamond and pro in their new magazine with no sign from the HD, too much direct comp for the iphone. As for Orange i have heard that they plan a few substantial changes in the way they operate within the coming months?
Dont know what that means but since i'm with them it'll def be interesting. I have been waiting for the touch pro for ages and it hasn't materialised on orange yet, so i think we deserve the HD!
I'm with orange because I have an old outdated data package which is well worth the money for me, i have be getting fed up waiting for orange to get the experia or the touch pro, so it makes a nice change for orange to ge this first.
Can you pre order with orange?
bollocks! getting fed u now, g1 t-mobile, hd orange, might just end up with an omnia after all **** marketing [email protected]
This is fecking annoying. I'm due an upgrade on both O2 and Vodafone and neither of them are doing this or anything that's a worthy sucessor to my N95. I suppose I'll just have to wait until the new year and hope that one or the other (preferably Vodafone) get this in.
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I'm with orange because I have an old outdated data package which is well worth the money for me, i have be getting fed up waiting for orange to get the experia or the touch pro, so it makes a nice change for orange to ge this first.
Can you pre order with orange?
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i tried that. the helpdesk droid said no.
I did a Google search for 'HTC "Touch HD"' webpages in the last 24 hours and this came up from the O2 Forums.
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Daz, i've got it on good authority that it will be released on O2 before the year is out - just need to hold on that little bit longer !!
They didn't want to mention a specific date but first week in December looks probable, depends if the network testing goes to plan
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Gulioth on O2 Forum said:
Well I'm as sure as what I've been told by 2 sources. Very close to being released, currently with the network for testing. Unless there are any issues, should be available on O2 in December. If not, don't shoot the messenger!
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Now just diverging to the rumours that O2 will be getting this themselves, I was very surprised to hear, when I wandered in to my local O2 shop, that they were expecting them in in December. WTF I thought, so I checked out the news, and lo and behold there are a few others that have heard the same. Now I'm not going to hold my breath on this for too long, but if that is true I don't mind waiting a couple of weeks...
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Don't shoot the messengers' messenger
Touch HD directly from O2
Hi there - it's quite odd to see myself quoted here! (I'm PWJW in the above mentioned thread).
I should point out that the thread that this is from is about buying the phone from mobiles.co.uk (here > http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=9555&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180), which is offering O2 deals. The first two comments may well be referring to availability through this route, or not, I am not sure myself, which is why I raised my point, hoping for some clarification.
I spoke to someone in an O2 shop, and they said that they were aware of the Orange exclusive, but thought it was only until the end of the month, and that they (O2) would be getting it in in early December. Now I took that with a big pinch of salt, because I usually know more about handsets and release dates (due to these great forums) than they do!
I was actually so shocked that I did not ask the obvious follow up questions like "Are you absolutely sure about that?!" and "Can I have it in writing?", but there you go. I might give them a call in the morning and see if there is any "news"...
Fingers crossed, as this would save me some hassles I could do without.
So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?
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So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?
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lol! Well I'm already there, that's why
I'm not averse to switching network, but O2 works in my home, which is also where I work, and therefore where I need to use my phone 99% of the time. I also have personal reasons for never going near Orange, so that leaves my options limited, though I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
At the moment I am waiting to see one for real before making decision, but I know that I am only postponing the inevitable. At least if O2 get this themselves, then I can negotiate an upgrade from them - I'm on Simplicity at the moment, which I have to say is a cracking deal - £20pm, 600 mins + free bolt-on ("unlimited" web in my case).
Well, it's appeared on the Intranet in the past few days, Orange seem to think they've got the HD as an exclusive "...well into 2009!"...
its all a bit dodgy if you ask me, we know O2 Germany are running with the HD, we know Orange have some sort of exclusive deal but for how long remains at question, perhaps a get around for this would be the fact that Orange WOULD have exclusive rights to Touch HD, simply because 2 would make it there own so perhaps that might be the answer.
Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
All in all im somewhat confused, if anyone has any answers out there please feel free to enlighten us!
Its also worth noting that Both the XDA Ignito and Serra were registered names against there respected phones LONG before they actually released them, and since ive not heard a peep about a new XDA name its doubtful in my opinion that an XDA Touch HD will be here this side of new year.
Well I phoned a store in Hertfordshire, they said no idea. The girl searched on her system and came up with strange alternatives.
I phoned upgrades twice. First person said no idea. Second person gave me a lecture on how HTC phones are branded O2 XDAs. Yes.... Ok.
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Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
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Probably the XDA Mantle. Screen not as big as the Touch HD. You can Google it.
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It has already been noted that O2 definitely won't be taking the Touch HD on I am afraid. Not much use to you I know but other carriers should take it on around January time hopefully.
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http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-touch-hd/18147-touch-hd-uk-exclusive-orange-5.html
HTC HD on O2
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish
xda flint or something, big arse pda, specs look ok but nothing fancy apart from a large screen and a good sizes keyboard. more like a ultra mini laptop than a pda.
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Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish
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how did you manage to get this phone on o2 from e2save if the website says pre-order on o2??? lol that's strange.
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I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
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This is very tempting for me too. But are Vodafone good? as i'm a T-Mobile user and I am getting bored with them and their phone releases. But I fear that it I leave they will get the phone so I am waiting till the beginning of next year to see whats happens.
Any information when HERO is coming to o2 UK?
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Any information when HERO is coming to o2 UK?
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Probably never mate, they have never had an Android handset on their market. O2 seem to be a bit lapse laitly as they don't seem to have the same amount, or type of phones they used to have. All they seem to stock is Sony Ericsson...?
I'm on o2 contract wise (rolling 30 day simplicity) and bought my phone outright.
Samsung Android (Galaxy/i7500)
There is an O2 android mobile, it should be available 10th Aug 2009.
Samsung Galaxy (android phone) Pricing and Release Date, apparantly correct.
Here's a link:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=24354&highlight=i7500
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There is an O2 android mobile, it should be available 10th Aug 2009.
Samsung Galaxy (android phone) Pricing and Release Date, apparantly correct.
Here's a link:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=24354&highlight=i7500
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Crap contracts though, seems this is the way o2 are going... backwards
The only thing that the Galaxy has going over the Hero is an LED flash, OLED screen and it's a little thinner. Other than that HTC kicks it all over the field. And yes, O2 has ridiculous pricing.
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The only thing that the Galaxy has going over the Hero is an LED flash, OLED screen and it's a little thinner. Other than that HTC kicks it all over the field. And yes, O2 has ridiculous pricing.
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OLED? You not like viewing your screen outside? You will never see your screen with an OLED outside.
Poor 3g Cover Also
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Crap contracts though, seems this is the way o2 are going... backwards
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Very poor 3g coverage with O2 and that includes London.
Could this be why Orange dropped the Touch HD????
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-announces-deal-to-sell-iphones-in-uk-638734
Not that it makes any difference to me, still don't like the iPhone. It's to much like a "My First Smartphone" for my liking.
Cheers
Dazza
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Could this be why Orange dropped the Touch HD????
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-announces-deal-to-sell-iphones-in-uk-638734
Not that it makes any difference to me, still don't like the iPhone. It's to much like a "My First Smartphone" for my liking.
Cheers
Dazza
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Would doubt this is the reason. Orange probably dropped the HD due to newer models being released by HTC and sales of the HD itself where dropping.
Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.
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Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.
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I'm actually not happy with this news, i left O2 cos i wanted Blackstone so much and i'm happy with orange as well, let's just hope they will offer leo as well, don't wanna go back to O2
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Doesn't look like they will be getting the Leo though.
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Where have you heard this? Generally speaking all HTC devices can be found on Orange 1st
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Where have you heard this? Generally speaking all HTC devices can be found on Orange 1st
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agree with you on that one orange seem to always carry the most htc phones compared to any other network look at the diamond the kaiser orange had the lot and anyway the Leo is not exclusive to 02 anyway is it well for me am glad the iPhone is coming to orange all definatly get one as a second phone cause windows till the end
Vodafone too..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8278073.stm
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5097.html
link to leo on o2
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http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5097.html
link to leo on o2
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Hah, don't make me laugh.
Someone just printed 'HTC Leo' and details of a standard O2 tariff onto a piece of A4 paper and took a photo of it next to an O2 leaflet, how does that prove anything?
I could print out Leo's specs and picture them next to some Apple brochure but it sure as hell wouldn't mean Apple were going to be producing a handset with WinMo...
As for Orange, I wouldn't say they seem to carry a disproportionately large number of HTC devices.
Plus, even if you're only prepared to buy from a bricks-and-mortar store, you can generally get a lot of 'exclusive' handsets on a number of different networks - for example Carphone Warehouse sold the HD on O2.
And that's before we even start to consider the huge number of websites that will sell pretty much any phone on any network...