Tmo USA G1 Tethering? - G1 General

Has anyone ever got in trouble because you went over Tmo bandwidth cap? I know it was a big issues when G1 first come out about 10gb cap/month limit.
I was wondering if anyone ever went over the cap limit? if so, what happen? I heard rumors that Tmo will lower the downstream speed to those individuals for the first offense, and then cancel your contract and service for future offense.
The reason I'm asking is because I use my rooted G1 as my main internet source for the past 3 weeks or so because my aunt doesn't want to pay for DSL anymore. I got 3G on my area and on good days I usually get about 750 kbps on my laptop, fast enough to pass by some free time. Lately, I been doing some heavy audio streaming and even downloading TV shows from torrent using my G1.

Pretty sure t-mobile will get pissed about bittorrent
Stop torrenting, and they should leave you alone

i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.

ichigoismyhomie said:
i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.
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use hulu.com it is completely legit and free streaming of shows and movies. ran by a tv station

Stop downloading so much, it makes the network slow for everyone else. If you do illegal activities on the phone I sure there will be some back lash. And if you keep this up they will make tethering against TOS, and you will ruin it for everyone.

is it possible to tehter on a tmobiile rc30 stock rom? and if so how?

Hate to be redundant, but I seriously hope that when T-mobile cracks down that they don't take out some poor guy who needs to ssh into a server and generates 10kb of traffic when they bust you for transferring multiple GB of bittorrent traffic.
The cost of bandwidth of a cell phone is VASTLY higher than over DSL or Cable. Radio bandwidth is a very limited commodity, and right now the networks barely have enough to serve their customers who just want to browse the web a little and watch the odd YouTube video (at low resolution).
If you have torrents seeding 24x7 you're going to use hundreds or thousands of times more bandwidth than an average user, and it is going to cause problems. Most likely you'll just get your service cut off (so then you'll be complaining about how you don't have DSL OR a cell phone). However, other possibilities include T-Mo blocking everything but port 80 and maybe 25. Please don't be the guy who does this to android...
Look, I'm all for net-neutrality and all that, and ISPs that have draconian filters need to be forced to remove them. However, you really can't compare a landline ISP that doesn't want you to do nothing more than web browse to a cell phone provider who wants you to stick to interactive use or otherwise low-bandwidth activities. Ditto for stuff like satellite-based internet. In these mediums bandwidth is genuinely limited.
If you need an analogy consider walking into a store every day and pocketing all the change in the "give/take a penny" bin. Sure, it is "free money," but you're basically ruining a community resource for even just the tiniest personal benefit. In you're case you're abusing what is likely a $60/month plan or so in order to avoid a $15/month DSL bill (give or take a few bucks).

Yeah cut it out. I heard that once you hit a data cap they drop you to edge speeds for the remainder of the month.
Don't ruin this for everyone. You'll live w/on your movies until you find another way.

ichigoismyhomie said:
i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows.
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It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.

uberingram said:
It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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I could not agree more. There are people starving in this world, and you NEED your tv shows. That is one of the most pathetic things I have heard in awhile. Here is a novel, parsimonious idea, instead of watching tv, educate yourself. Education can go along way, at least far enough to make you realize what a stupid idea it is to pirate over your cell phone.

ichigoismyhomie said:
i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.
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i understand how you feel, i can't afford internet at all, and so i have to use my phone to do everything like help n00bs on here, when i got my tilt i had 3G and it was great, at&t had a 5GB cap and i went over it repeatedly with no repercussions, i never did more than 10GB on at&t so i seriously doubt i could do that on the edge network i have here with my G1. but from what the t-mo rep tols me the other day, after telling me that it was impossible to tether, and that there is no way to write a program for it, they just knock you down to edge speends for the rest of the month.
i also use the phone for my main source of internet but don't torrent, people that torrent ruin things and it makes everyone hate you.

uberingram said:
It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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I'm so not gonna say anything.
Shaggy (41yrs old)

I think that maybe T-Mobile should charge additional per GB instead of putting a cap on. It should be about $2 per GB over (just an example). Which wouldn't be much for the average user... but for those who torrent it would definitly add up. However that would cause a change in the contract which T-Mobile reserves the right to do without notice. The would probably resort to such measures if everyone started doing this.

uberingram said:
It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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Don't think you're better than anyone just because you don't watch TV. Oh wow you don't have internet or tv in your house ! Why are you on the internet now then? Go read a book, you're wasting bandwidth for the rest of us.

donutman said:
Don't think you're better than anyone just because you don't watch TV. Oh wow you don't have internet or tv in your house ! Why are you on the internet now then? Go read a book, you're wasting bandwidth for the rest of us.
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growing up... lol that's why he bought the G1.

Binary100100 said:
I think that maybe T-Mobile should charge additional per GB instead of putting a cap on. It should be about $2 per GB over (just an example). Which wouldn't be much for the average user... but for those who torrent it would definitly add up.
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Sounds fine to me. But they better make it possible to opt-out - I don't want some malfunctioning application to run up a $500 phone bill. If I hit a 10GB cap I'd rather they just cut me off.
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However that would cause a change in the contract which T-Mobile reserves the right to do without notice. The would probably resort to such measures if everyone started doing this.
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That would be wonderful! I just got a whole stack of phones at promotional pricing and a unilateral change in contract terms would be a material change that would get me out of my contract!
T-Mobile may not be required to give notice BEFORE changing the contract, but they certainly are required to tell you WHEN they change the contract. If the change is material to the terms of the contract you can refuse to accept the new terms, at which point they must either release you from the contract or continue service under the original terms. If they refused to do this and then tried to charge you a termination fee any court of law in the US would rule in your favor in a heartbeat (and they'd face a class action in no time). The whole point of contracts is that you agree to a set of terms and then you live by them - they can only be ammended by mutual consent. Anything written in the contract to the contrary is almost certainly unenforceable.
Sure, they might try to give you a hard time, but they would cave in. Just look at what happened when verizon decided to up some surcharge by 20 cents per month last year - lots of people argued it and got released from their contracts and continued month-to-month (with the freedom to leave at any time).
I doubt T-mobile would make a unilateral change like this anyway - the reason I signed up with them (besides the G1) is that they seemed to not have a reputation for some of the cheap shots some of the other companies pull.

look use rapidshare or megaupload that way theres no uploading but you still have to watch your limits (i use to go over 40gigs with my TYTN 2 on att and i thank god they never charged me be4 i was able to end my contract)

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T-mobile "unlimited" data usage

So is there a limit on how much data can be used on the "unlimited" android plan? I did a google search and there was one article I found that said 1GB was the limit? is that true?.. I know Iphone has around 5GB "unlimited" data?
Anyone?
When the Dream (G1) came out they lifted the 1GB cap and now I believe there's a 5GB soft cap.
So I just did a t mobile chat
So I just did a t mobile chat and this is what i got;
rob: what is the "unlimited" data cap per month?
_Marion M: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth; if your total usage exceeds 10GB (amount is subject to change; please periodically check T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle.
Like the response "rshemeld" got from his chat with Tmobile there is no cap to our Unlimited data plans like other providers may have.
We "Throttle Down" data transfer speeds after 10GB is exceeded during a bill cycle but there is still no overage charges (with all newer features). To this day I have talked to ONE person that has reached the 10GB throttling point during a bill cycle. On 3G network they were experiencing EDGE like speeds to give you an example of how much it is/can be throttled down.
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Sheldonjace said:
Like the response "rshemeld" got from his chat with Tmobile there is no cap to our Unlimited data plans like other providers may have.
We "Throttle Down" data transfer speeds after 10GB is exceeded during a bill cycle but there is still no overage charges (with all newer features). To this day I have talked to ONE person that has reached the 10GB throttling point during a bill cycle. On 3G network they were experiencing EDGE like speeds to give you an example of how much it is/can be throttled down.
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I just moved over from Verizon where i was a customer for many years. I fell in love with TMOUS HTC HD2 Leo at first sight. I asked the tmobile rep if "unlimited" really meant unlimited and she said yes, i asked her if there was any asterisk subtext or any LIMITS/restriction to this plan - still she replied 'no', now I get a message from tmobile saying that I have gone over 10gb data and that they would be throttling my plan down to 50kbs for the remainder of this billing cycle!
I am considering returning the device and canceling due to being misled. I made the sales rep say 3 times "unlimited and without restriction" yet now I slow crawl the web!
Sales and z marketing have to stop using catch words that simply aren't true like "free", "unlimited" and "satisfaction guaranteed"!
NYCspeedSurfer said:
I just moved over from Verizon where i was a customer for many years. I fell in love with TMOUS HTC HD2 Leo at first sight. I asked the tmobile rep if "unlimited" really meant unlimited and she said yes, i asked her if there was any asterisk subtext or any LIMITS/restriction to this plan - still she replied 'no', now I get a message from tmobile saying that I have gone over 10gb data and that they would be throttling my plan down to 50kbs for the remainder of this billing cycle!
I am considering returning the device and canceling due to being misled. I made the sales rep say 3 times "unlimited and without restriction" yet now I slow crawl the web!
Sales and z marketing have to stop using catch words that simply aren't true like "free", "unlimited" and "satisfaction guaranteed"!
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It is unlimited. You didn't get to 10gb and then all of a sudden get shut off. You got restricted from full access, however you are still able to use 3g networks without any limit.
Sorry, but if you want to beat these reps, you have to use correct vocabulary. Why would they tell you data usage can be restricted if you don't ask while they're trying to sell you a phone and slam you into a contract? That's just bad business.
Also, 10gb is A LOT. Especially for simple web-browsing and app downloading. If you want to download a HUGE file, wait until you get wifi. It's faster anyways.
Oh, you're not going to be able to cancel without a heavy fee just because you claim to have been "mislead." I agree with you, the rep SHOULD have told you, but then they wouldn't have gotten a commission.
Im in Georgia, i have gone over 10gb and they have not said or charged me anything, i didnt see a change in speed anyways, so i would say UNLIMITED SPEED/DATA.
rodr4813 said:
Im in Georgia, i have gone over 10gb and they have not said or charged me anything, i didnt see a change in speed anyways, so i would say UNLIMITED SPEED/DATA.
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That's what you would say. However, it DOES get cut down, whether you say it does or doesn't. So, you are wrong.
Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...
I spend all day every day on my phone at work (lots and lots of downtime) and I've never come anywhere near 10GB. Tethering isnt technically legal, so if you're doing that, you have nothing to complain about since you're breaking the rules anyway.
NYCspeedSurfer said:
Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...
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Good, I would get out of a contract. They're no good.
10gb data plan would be misinterpreted by the common public. People would think they would ONLY get 10gb to use a month, and you'd be surprised how many people think 10gb is very little. Talking data usage on a cellphone, that's PLENTY with PLENTY to spare. I don't use HALF of that a month with constant internet usage. Also, many people would go run off to another cellphone company that says unlimited but cuts down download speed after 500mb of data usage. Its all in marketing. Besides, doesn't "unlimited data" plan sound better than "data plan where you use 10gb and then it gets cut down to half of your regular download speed but you'll still have access to data usage" plan?
Maybe the rep didn't know, maybe they were trying to make their commission. It is in the fine print somewhere, though.
Using tethering I've been getting to 10GB every month for about the last 4 or 5. They just lower your download speed to 50kb/s, although it still tells you you're at 3G speeds. Other than that though there is no "cap" where they cut your data plan altogether.
No, I was not tethered. I did however d/l lots of movie torrents via wmtorrent. Next time will use wifi when I can but I dont have as pc or wifi-I piggyback on unsecured, public nets.
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Lemeja said:
Using tethering I've been getting to 10GB every month for about the last 4 or 5. They just lower your download speed to 50kb/s, although it still tells you you're at 3G speeds. Other than that though there is no "cap" where they cut your data plan altogether.
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I never tether, that's probably why I never get close to cap. Always too slow for me.
NYCspeedSurfer said:
No, I was not tethered. I did however d/l lots of movie torrents via wmtorrent. Next time will use wifi when I can but I dont have as pc or wifi-I piggyback on unsecured, public nets.
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THAT'S what caused you break the cap. They probably took hours, too.
Was that last comment an attempt at being a smart ass? o.o
Sorry, no disrespect nor smarta$$ remarks intended towards anyone - apologies if I was misunderstood by anyone.
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Sorry, no disrespect nor smarta$$ remarks intended towards anyone - apologies if I was misunderstood by anyone.
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Nah, it's just hard to tell on the internet.
so u just used it for less than 14 days n u have 10gb usage? wow...!!!
NYCspeedSurfer said:
Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...
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jonze5 said:
so u just used it for less than 14 days n u have 10gb usage? wow...!!!
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He downloaded movie torrents. Those are about 700mb - 800mb for just .avi.
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He downloaded movie torrents. Those are about 700mb - 800mb for just .avi.
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That's the.avi, if it was torrent's he was downloading, .torrent files are only a few kb each!
Didn't know they throttle you at 10 gb but its good to know that it really is unlimited data.

End of unlimited data could be near.

Dan Hesse said today sprint could rethink it's unlimited data plan if usage gets crazy.http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sprint-ceo-hints-unlimited-data-could-end-if-usage-gets-crazy/
Wouldn't you?
Edit: I barely hit 1gig a month. About 50% of the time when I am actually on my phone, I am at home and using the WiFi.
If sprint messes with my contract, its an automatic bye bye without an ETF.
ya know i like to think i use my phone alot... and i dont evrn hit a gig and a half or never ever more than 2gig.
i cant even imagine someone using 3 4 5 or mote gigs unless all you did was download roms all day or stream a **** ton of youtube.
frankly sprints network isnt good enough most places to even allow that much usage.
and why oh why people dont use the fracking wifi at home if they have wifi is beyond me.
my wife just cant get it thru her head to turn the f'ing wifi on when she gets home.
they had better remove the $10 fee off our bills if they ever do it. i too will drop them like a bad habit.. and go back to att in a heartbeat with a iphone 3gs
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MSmith1 said:
If sprint messes with my contract, its an automatic bye bye without an ETF.
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this ! as much as i would hate to i would with out thinking about it i needz my data lol
Reminds me of the fools who download huge torrents just to see a high data count.
Anyway, it's still a possibility that we will be grand fathered into unlimited plans and new users will be subjected to data caps.
Metro is cdma correct? $40 unlimited is sounding better and better.
MSmith1 said:
If sprint messes with my contract, its an automatic bye bye without an ETF.
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Just to end up somewhere with limited data anyways right? haha
In all honesty, I have no respect for the people burning through data for the hell of it and getting on various forums and bragging like it is a cool thing. Not to point any fingers but there was someone bragging about 44gb recently on other forums and that burns me up. I have no high speed where I live and 3g data is as close as it comes. If we get data limits due to people just working the system it hurts everyone like me that have dial up access only. Seriously people, if u are burning that much data for the hell of it, STOP please. You have already gained their attention enough!! Sorry for ranting bc I know it will fall on deaf ears only and it will surely be my fault for living in a place with only dial up (which someone actually said before).
Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!
They should have focused on perfecting 3g before releasing 4g, my speeds are unbelievably slow. Some people must abuse their data, like using it at home when they could connect wi-fi.
My 3G speeds are just fine. I just want 4G in my area already.
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Metro is cdma correct? $40 unlimited is sounding better and better.
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$40 for unlimited crap? Sounds like a good deal.
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Just to end up somewhere with limited data anyways right? haha
In all honesty, I have no respect for the people burning through data for the hell of it and getting on various forums and bragging like it is a cool thing. Not to point any fingers but there was someone bragging about 44gb recently on other forums and that burns me up. I have no high speed where I live and 3g data is as close as it comes. If we get data limits due to people just working the system it hurts everyone like me that have dial up access only. Seriously people, if u are burning that much data for the hell of it, STOP please. You have already gained their attention enough!! Sorry for ranting bc I know it will fall on deaf ears only and it will surely be my fault for living in a place with only dial up (which someone actually said before).
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Yup to end up somewhere with limited data. One of the main draws for me to sprint was the unlimitted data. If sprint messes with my contract and takes that away, there is no reason to stay with them anymore is there?
It's plausible that data usage could go crazy. What a great excuse, since the competition has announced. No price fixing. ..
pretty sure it was directed to 3g. 4g is provided by clear, and clear is a different company than sprint. Unless clear announces that it will do limited wimax, then it wont happen on sprint either (clear would never do this either since they provide homes and computers with wimax, and that would be retarded).
In about 5-6 months, no one will even care if 3g is limited. Sprint/clear will have a ****load of towers up to cover like 70% of usa, if not more.
If they restructure the contracts so if I did want to use my phone as a continuous modem I could then whatever. I remember my internet was shut off for a month and I used this as a modem for the whole month (general web browsing but some downloads of MP3s) and I was paranoid the entire time.
If they ease my anxiety then i'm all for it.
If they do change it we wouldn't see any difference.
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Damn it. I better stop torrenting porn using my evo as a hotspot. Jk.
I saw this today, which is sad that we might loose it someday, but it makes sense, too. It's all S/D+$ related.
I actually only use 1.8 GB/mo. And I use the hotspot and my phone all the time...maybe att was onto something when they said that the majority if people don't use over 2/mo.
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With the amount of money people pour into mobile services, we shouldn't ever have to worry about data caps. Sadly, I think we will always have to because that is a way for them to make bank. They just use "abuse" of data as an excuse to implement more strict caps sooner rather than later. Same as text messaging, we know the massive amount of money it costs them to support that service (major sarcasm included) and look at what carriers charge monthly for that. If Sprint keeps what they have going for them they will rise to the top.
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What the **** did they expect?
I don't consider myself 'abusing' anything but I use my 3G as much as possible. I pay a ton of cash and an extra $10 bull**** charge a month - ya damn straight I'm using my unlimited bandwidth to the max. No such thing as abusing anything when you have the right to do it.
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I bet you take food home from all you can eat restaurants also.
Just because its unlimited, doesn't mean you've got to see how far you can go to get the absolute most out of it. There was actually a thread here the other day where someone asking for the most efficient way to download as much as possible.
Another thing to remember is that (naively or not) Sprint was counting on recuperating some of what it spends to give us unlimited data with fees from the hotspot feature. But I'm willing to bet that one of the first things that the guys using the most data did, along with everyone else who rooted, was get wireless tether for free. I don't think Sprint took that into consideration.
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this has been taken well out of contexts... hesse CLEARLY stated that unlimited data was not going away anytime soon... people would do a little more research before just reposting bad reporting that other site post

Throttled...

me no likey, especially being a leo user since April that was forced to sign an "unlimited" data plan...
unlimited to 5g...lol.
Okay? Seriously it's not that big of a deal, just cut back on data usage.
hardly spazzing out, just a bit peeved that the answer to lack of towers is to alter the service I am paying for and deserve.
rightly so per my contract...
maybe allow previous contracts expire that were signed before the throttling?
nah, for my $300 phone, and mandatory $30 month plan I deserve to be punished for assuming that the netty netzorz would be "unlimited".
it's not as if I want a red ferrari or one night with Angelina Jolie er nuthin'.
(this phone sees more net tham my p.c. btw)
tmo since 2005.
ashasaur said:
Okay? Seriously it's not that big of a deal, just cut back on data usage.
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actually that's Tmo's answer to the problem instead of erecting more towers and honoring the contract I signed back in April...
"Sir, it's your fault we're too cheap to erect more towers, use less internet plz."
you missed your calling as a tmo phone jockey!
Agreed, we signed for a specific amount on our data plans. Now I hear I'm going to have half the data limit I signed for.
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Your data is still unlimited, you'll just be throttled to a slower speed once you exceed 5gb. So likely no different to the unlimited data you had before 3g was in existence.
I still think TMO's tiering/caping is the most reasonable in the industry. At least they aren't flat out cutting you off or hitting you up to pay for another 2gb bucket like other carriers. Though maybe an option to pay up to lift the cap would be a nice option for heavy users, but that might go down the slippery slope of them going that route and being like ATT rather than the throttling they are doing now
What would actually be nice is if they didnt just flat out throttle you at 5gb but throttle you with bursting ability. that way loading the quick email or light web page will still be snappy, but if you attempt any streaming or large downloads then you get throttled down.
What im curious about that hasn't been covered much is exactly what speed do you get throttled down to? do you still get 3g coverage, just throttled. or does the throttling turn off your ability yo use the 3g signals, leaving you stuck with edge coverage?
I may just have to test it out this billing cycle, and do some very large downloads the last couple days of my billing cycle and try to hit 5gb a couple days before my cycle resets and see just how bad it gets.
Although it blows to be the "victim" of a traditional "bait & switch" by a faceless corporation, I am still 3G but downloading pages at minimum 5+ seconds slower.
Terrible? No.
Unexpected due to expectations of "unlimited" use per my 2 year contract? Yup.
I realize that OTHER providers/carriers have always capped, but um, I am not with other providers/carriers.
Tmo advertised..."UNLIMITED NET USAGE" and as a paying client who signed a contract I expect to get what I originally signed up for.
Imho I'm not demanding anything more than what I signed up for.
What good are contracts with tmo for anyways? A way for them to strongarm you into coping with their ever changing policies, or pay the ETF and have a nice life???
I really despise the "sukz to be you" policy that tmo is acquiring...
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Although it blows to be the "victim" of a traditional "bait & switch" by a faceless corporation, I am still 3G but downloading pages at minimum 5+ seconds slower.
Terrible? No.
Unexpected due to expectations of "unlimited" use per my 2 year contract? Yup.
I realize that OTHER providers/carriers have always capped, but um, I am not with other providers/carriers.
Tmo advertised..."UNLIMITED NET USAGE" and as a paying client who signed a contract I expect to get what I originally signed up for.
Imho I'm not demanding anything more than what I signed up for.
What good are contracts with tmo for anyways? A way for them to strongarm you into coping with their ever changing policies, or pay the ETF and have a nice life???
I really despise the "sukz to be you" policy that tmo is acquiring...
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Yeah i know it sucks as far as being stuck in a contract thinking you were getting one thing and getting something else
But as far as i see legally they are still holding up their end of the contract, you are still completely unlimited in your net access. They never advertised a set kbps or mbps of service they would provide. no internet provider does, unless youre talking about a leased business class line. All your home based broadband connections are advertised as "up to" whatever speed
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Yeah i know it sucks as far as being stuck in a contract thinking you were getting one thing and getting something else
But as far as i see legally they are still holding up their end of the contract, you are still completely unlimited in your net access. They never advertised a set kbps or mbps of service they would provide. no internet provider does, unless youre talking about a leased business class line. All your home based broadband connections are advertised as "up to" whatever speed
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I get it, in order to sign contracts with multi~billion dollar corporations, you must first hire a multi~billion dollar attorney to translate the fine print.
When did cellular providers get so powerful anyhow?
Oh yeah, when we decided to "let" them by shrugging off their whittling away at our rights as the clients who pour millions into their pockets.
I say more people should contest the slow and methodical "tweaking" that surely will lead to a big brother net situation.
yes.
kidrythm said:
I get it, in order to sign contracts with multi~billion dollar corporations, you must first hire a multi~billion dollar attorney to translate the fine print.
When did cellular providers get so powerful anyhow?
Oh yeah, when we decided to "let" them by shrugging off their whittling away at our rights as the clients who pour millions into their pockets.
I say more people should contest the slow and methodical "tweaking" that surely will lead to a big brother net situation.
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But dude, you are still getting unlimited data... Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
Download movies on your computer maybe?
Either way, you can't argue that you aren't getting unlimited data because you in fact are. They aren't cutting off your data once you hit 5GB or charging you more money when you go over 5GB. How is this a breach of contract?
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But dude, you are still getting unlimited data... Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
Download movies on your computer maybe?
Either way, you can't argue that you aren't getting unlimited data because you in fact are. They aren't cutting off your data once you hit 5GB or charging you more money when you go over 5GB. How is this a breach of contract?
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Not a huge porn fan, but I do download a ****e ton of stuff from xda trying out all of the awesome cabs, and I do dig the youtube vidz of all things science/engineering/technology.
As far as arguing that my "unlimited" data plan is now "limited"to 5GB per month and how that is somehow not a breach of contract, well I am going to have to disagree with you.
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
If they are going to throttle my usage, they can also deduct that lost speed from my monthly bill.
In a nutshell, I am no longer getting what I signed up for 7 months ago but per my contract I am still expected to pay the same amount.
Or fork over mad cheddar to bail from the contract...don't know about you but it was $lightly terrifying for me $igning onto a premium package and a $et up like this for 2 more years.
Business expense, but still My Wife would be peeved to know it cost me $300 to pay another $300 for the ETF.
Money isn't my bestest friend...but dangit, Transformers looked SO good!!
My guess is that Tmo failed to prepare their network properly to meet the needs of the Fvckton of new clients that will rush into the HD7, and this was a hail Mary move. The timing seems about right in line with the upcoming release of the latest wondertoy.
I mean heck, what can anyone do? Complain? Whoopee, plenty of other tmo/xda members will pipe up and put them in their place.
amirite?
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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Not a huge porn fan, but I do download a ****e ton of stuff from xda trying out all of the awesome cabs, and I do dig the youtube vidz of all things science/engineering/technology.
As far as arguing that my "unlimited" data plan is now "limited"to 5GB per month and how that is somehow not a breach of contract, well I am going to have to disagree with you.
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
If they are going to throttle my usage, they can also deduct that lost speed from my monthly bill.
In a nutshell, I am no longer getting what I signed up for 7 months ago but per my contract I am still expected to pay the same amount.
Or fork over mad cheddar to bail from the contract...don't know about you but it was $lightly terrifying for me $igning onto a premium package and a $et up like this for 2 more years.
Business expense, but still My Wife would be peeved to know it cost me $300 to pay another $300 for the ETF.
Money isn't my bestest friend...but dangit, Transformers looked SO good!!
My guess is that Tmo failed to prepare their network properly to meet the needs of the Fvckton of new clients that will rush into the HD7, and this was a hail Mary move. The timing seems about right in line with the upcoming release of the latest wondertoy.
I mean heck, what can anyone do? Complain? Whoopee, plenty of other tmo/xda members will pipe up and put them in their place.
amirite?
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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All I do is use the internet a lot throughout the day looking at news and sports sites and my bill says I use 5GB a week. I don't download anything. Why buy a G2 if you just want to make phone calls?
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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I recieved a text 3 days ago.
I browse the net, and post regularly on quite a few forums. The only thing I can think of that kills it is downloading the themes etc. from forums directly to the phone.
I checked my account and it reads 0 due to that pesky unlimited data plan, and tmo has no way of compiling my total usage into a nice round #. All they see on their system is my entire usage broken down into individual "visits" to the network. Yeah, I almost insisted that she break out the calcuator and get to addin'!
Like I said, they seem a bit out of their element having just launched this new system.
Not one rep could offer anything more than an apology for not having more info when I went through my list of straight forward, and comprehensive inquiries.
What bothers me, among other things is the lack of transparency on their part in the form of the inability to answer simple questions. How can I be sure that they are capping at 5gb, or find out what speed have I been lowered to?
For all I know they are making up the rules as we're plowing down this dark gravel road to unknown parts.
A free speedtest could offer better data than the company I am paying good money to, and that is pretty jacked up.
To answer your question, I have no idea how I hit 5gb 1 week shy of my billing cycle ending.
And with no way to keep tabs, it looks like my Leo will be collecting a bit more dust in the future...I'd hate to blow the cap 2 weeks in.
Youtube vids now take 4 min. to load a 56 sec. clip.
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All I do is use the internet a lot throughout the day looking at news and sports sites and my bill says I use 5GB a week. I don't download anything. Why buy a G2 if you just want to make phone calls?
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Dayum, you got me beat!
This is one competition where I really don't mind being last...
How is your browsing experience with the throttling applied?
kidrythm said:
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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i guarantee that the contract you signed in no way states what speed of service they will provide. that would be impossible to tmobile to hold upto, what about all the people paying the same price for their data service as you, but they are stuck in areas still only served by edge or god forbid gprs service?
Yes these service areas still exist, i personally experienced them on a road trip over the summer. 1 bar of gprs service in a cabin in north mississippi is real fun. i guess by your logic tmobile owes me a billing credit because i couldn't get 3g service while on the road for a week
i really cant fathom how you exceed 5g without downloading movies/music on your phone
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i guarantee that the contract you signed in no way states what speed of service they will provide. that would be impossible to tmobile to hold upto, what about all the people paying the same price for their data service as you, but they are stuck in areas still only served by edge or god forbid gprs service?
Yes these service areas still exist, i personally experienced them on a road trip over the summer. 1 bar of gprs service in a cabin in north mississippi is real fun. i guess by your logic tmobile owes me a billing credit because i couldn't get 3g service while on the road for a week
i really cant fathom how you exceed 5g without downloading movies/music on your phone
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If I left an area where service was solid, that would be one thing.
I am in K.C. where the service rivals Sprint's due to their "campus" being located here.
3 1/2 bars since day 1, another "issue" I have...
No movies (not til I pony up for coreplayer), and as far as music, the speaker sux bawls on the Leo and earbuds irritate me.
Just regular usage rivaling that of my average daily p.c. surfing was before I got my htc hd2 set up.
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Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
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I'm surprised his privates didn't fall off before he hit 5GB
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I'm surprised his privates didn't fall off before he hit 5GB
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wow, thanks for posting.
"privates"?
being 11 years old is a confusing, and yet exciting time!
now run along the adults are talking.
Anyways, after that lasts dumb post. I agree with the others up top, with the data cap instated, you are still getting data, just at a slower rate. No where in your contract does it state that what speeds you will recieve using mobile data, only that your access to mobile data is unlimited.

The ethics of tethering on a non-tethering contract

A different thread (Here) degraded into an angry, but compelling discussion of tethering ethics.
Since the other thread was so lively, but off of original topic, I figured this would be a better, less phone specific, location.
This guy burned through 105G of data in a billing cycle.
Wow.
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This guy burned through 105G of data in a billing cycle.
Wow.
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I don't care if people tether provided they keep it at a reasonable rate. I think the T-Mo 5 GB limit is plenty for tethering and I don't care if they throttle past that point. 105GB is completely and utterly retarded and I wouldn't hesitate to say that he was probably downloading illegal files while tethering.
You're using AT&T and you're concerned about ethics LOL. They're screwing you every chance they get. If you get the chance to return the favor, be my guest.
The only crisis of conscience I might have is degrading the user experience of someone else on that same antenna.
The 'I don't give an F' users eventually bring the issue to a head; they push the limits and draw the attention of the carriers.
On the positive end, this (kind of) spurs bandwidth and rollout plans.
On a negative end, this hurries security and monitoring development that closes off these avenues.
There's no reasoning with 'power' users though; they'll take anything that's not nailed down. We all just have to live with it.
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You're using AT&T and you're concerned about ethics LOL. They're screwing you every chance they get. If you get the chance to return the favor, be my guest.
The only crisis of conscience I might have is degrading the user experience of someone else on that same antenna.
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I've never had any issue with AT&T, but I have had issues with T-Mobile. It's funny that a provider can be so cheap (T-Mobile), yet can't seem to get any subscribers... wonder why? :C
Could it be their poor service/coverage? Probably.
I used to tether a while back, but I got a letter from AT&T telling me if I continued I'd lose my unlimited data and be automatically enrolled in their 4GB for $45 tethering plan. I since stopped, and bought myself a 5GB "4G" data connect card @ $50 per month ($10 for every GB over). Seemed like a reasonable deal.
If you're gonna tether, good luck, you will get caught eventually. c:
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I've never had any issue with AT&T, but I have had issues with T-Mobile. It's funny that a provider can be so cheap (T-Mobile), yet can't seem to get any subscribers... wonder why? :C
Could it be their poor service/coverage? Probably.
I used to tether a while back, but I got a letter from AT&T telling me if I continued I'd lose my unlimited data and be automatically enrolled in their 4GB for $45 tethering plan. I since stopped, and bought myself a 5GB "4G" data connect card @ $50 per month ($10 for every GB over). Seemed like a reasonable deal.
If you're gonna tether, good luck, you will get caught eventually. c:
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So instead of using something you were already paying for, you now are paying for another monthly charge to continue doing what you were already doing before? Yep, definitely. Sounds like you've never had an issue with AT&T. At least not one that you want to admit.
But in all honesty, it cripples the system when people are overusing. Then again, we should be getting what we pay for. And considering the unreasonable rates carriers provide compared to elsewhere in the world... f*** them.
I honestly don't tether that much these days. I only use it when the internet is down and at best, I use about 200MB worth of data from tethering. Haven't been caught and I am pretty sure T-Mobile doesn't care enough to send me a warning about tethering on a non-tethering contract.
With that being said, I did hit my 5GB limit. Twice. Without the use of tethering. Throttled speed is honestly not that bad, I can still do some stuff.
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So instead of using something you were already paying for, you now are paying for another monthly charge to continue doing what you were already doing before? Yep, definitely. Sounds like you've never had an issue with AT&T. At least not one that you want to admit.
But in all honesty, it cripples the system when people are overusing. Then again, we should be getting what we pay for. And considering the unreasonable rates carriers provide compared to elsewhere in the world... f*** them.
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When you say unreasonable rates VZW certainly comes to mind
I don't tether but really don't see the problem with it. As someone else stated when it comes to 'power users' they are out there and we all have to deal with it no matter what the service you use, ie DSL/CABLE/SAT etc.
What about the 'ethics' of locking bootloaders and loading my phone full of bloatware? ROFL...
I don't think its unethical to use your data the way you want to use it. You are paying for the data. I think caps, for the price of unlimited home broadband (and not achieving close to the same speeds as those of home broadband) is unethical.
If my contract says unlimited data, I see nothing unethical about it. It is my data to use when and how I want to. The only thing unethical is the fact that I pay $160 a month for 2 lines.
Whats the difference between using 2GB of data on your phone compared to using 2GB of data when you've got a laptop tethered to it? You should just be able to pay for data and thats that. No paying extra if you want to tether.
It is abusing it if you have unlimited data and rinse it all since it's never really unlimited. Maybe they should say how much data you're ACTUALLY allowed to use.
people should stop using 3G/4G as a replacement for home internet, sigh...
I am about to go a little off topic.
I think it is the fault of the carriers themselves. Earlier it was allowed for me tether as much as I wanted. I had an unlimited data plan (A real one).
Now I am limited to 2 gb (or not yet, only when I renew my contract) This is not caused by power users but because of wrongly anticipated investments. They need to get back their investment of economically aged techniques.
Also I am forced to buy more calling minutes and text when I want more data.
I think, especially compared to earlier, that giving us this little data for a ridiculously high price is unethical. 10 gb should be more fair. I mean they tell us to watch youtube on my phone at home. Why would I do that when I have a laptop or maybe later even a tablet?
Its not really unethical to download 105 gb unless you are downloading illegal stuff and causing others unable to use mobile data.
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Twiddler said:
A different thread (Here) degraded into an angry, but compelling discussion of tethering ethics.
Since the other thread was so lively, but off of original topic, I figured this would be a better, less phone specific, location.
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I am about to go a little off topic.
I think it is the fault of the carriers themselves. Earlier it was allowed for me tether as much as I wanted. I had an unlimited data plan (A real one).
Now I am limited to 2 gb (or not yet, only when I renew my contract) This is not caused by power users but because of wrongly anticipated investments. They need to get back their investment of economically aged techniques.
Also I am forced to buy more calling minutes and text when I want more data.
I think, especially compared to earlier, that giving us this little data for a ridiculously high price is unethical. 10 gb should be more fair. I mean they tell us to watch youtube on my phone at home. Why would I do that when I have a laptop or maybe later even a tablet?
Its not really unethical to download 105 gb unless you are downloading illegal stuff and causing others unable to use mobile data.
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Well, people would tether because why bother having two Internet es, one at your home and one in your pocket? Sounds easier to have it all on your phone as you can tether to your other devices. Also, some people don't have tablets or aptops, etc. To even use, so they use whatever they can but I mean this is unlikely since they can afford such an Internet service on their device.
Also, it's the isp fault of their network can't support thousands or millions of users using their network, they should get better networks, etc since you're paying for the service. For the ones who download like several gigabytes of stuff, why not? It's the Internet and they paid for it. Watching a million videos, movies, watching live tv, etc. Why don't they leech off starbucks? Because they are paying for an "unlimited" service.
For the throttling, I find it stupid, or good. Stupid because unlimited users shouldn't be doing because they use a lot, it's a service they paid for. Well, how much they throttle anyways? But it's good because at the end of the month, that's when team network is the fastest, if the heavy users get throttled.
Either way, I think throttling is stupid and bad for user who paid for unlimited Internet,.
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people should stop using 3G/4G as a replacement for home internet, sigh...
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Why not? Although home Internet is faster, why pay for home when you have unlimited 3g/4g?
Im on sprint, so we have unlimited data in our contracts. I think its my right to use it in any way i like just like i do at home with fios. i can plug in any device i want into my router. I could give my dog her own videophone and verizon wont care. Cell carriers should be the same, they should treat it as a just a connection, thats it. we would all be happier.
I was on AT&T. Got the tethering notice and decided no more with them. I switched to Verizon.
When I tether, I really don't use that much data than I would on my phone. I average around 6.5GB a month on my phone usual data. From there, I would venture to say 2GB of data is tethering and when it's done, it's usually not even their peak network times. I don't think it's unethical because data is data. A byte is a byte whether it originated on the phone or the other device. The company has the capability, they just want more money for it.
Really, it boils down to moderation. If everyone tethered, but did it moderately, we could all enjoy it. But for the 105GB guy, he ruins it for all of us.
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Im on sprint, so we have unlimited data in our contracts. I think its my right to use it in any way i like just like i do at home with fios. i can plug in any device i want into my router. I could give my dog her own videophone and verizon wont care. Cell carriers should be the same, they should treat it as a just a connection, thats it. we would all be happier.
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I agree.
As our devices become capable of higher volumes of data in a billing period, AT&T markets faster speeds (translation: greater volume in less time), more apps (translation: more downloads, more apps pulling data), we are expected not to use greater volumes of data if we have an unlimited contract.
As for people who say that power users cause network bottlenecks, I would like to see data to prove this allegation. I haven't seen any information to support this allegation. I believe that AT&T's network problems, including cell towers that lose internet, are a much bigger problem.
Power users don't cause the bottleneck. There's so few who actually use over a fairly small amount of data that it's ridiculous for the carriers to say that power users are the cause of network congestion and general slowness, which prompt data caps and other unpleasantness.
The actual issue is similar to Comcast's handling of torrenters. The whole Sandvine debacle wasn't caused because so many people were torrenting that the network couldn't handle it. The cause was simple greed and laziness--the provider sold more bandwidth than they actually possessed. The same is true for the mobile networks, as well. These guys know that "unlimited" is the magic word to sell data plans, but they don't want to spend the money necessary to expand network infrastructure to actually handle unlimited data access from thousands upon thousands of subscribers. So they blame it on the handful of folks who actually make use of the whole unlimited part, and throttle or cap bandwidth.
If they had been honest to begin with, we probably wouldn't be so torqued about it all.
I'm on T-Mobile and I tether fairly often, but not to excess, mostly because I have a 2GB cap and I'm almost always in a place where I can get wifi. The tethering is there for those 1% of times when there's no 802.11 nearby and I need to get my laptop online for whatever reason.
I pay for my bandwidth, I ought to be able to use it however I please. T-Mobile doesn't seem to mind whether my bits are pulled down through my Nexus S or my laptop.
Now if I could only figure out how to stop their proxies from compressing JPEGs...
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Anyone else use their phone as their main internet?

Wasn't planning on it being my main connection, but my cable got cut off a few days ago, so I got my wireless router to pick up my phone wifi that's broadcasting 3G, and I'm getting speeds ~130-300kB/s (kiloBYTE) which isn't too shabby.
Streaming videos, webpages load up quickly, I don't even notice unless I go to download a large file. Just curious if anyone else is doing this.
Sure do. At about -70DB signal strength at my house I can pull in a solid 320KBs
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I can only daydream of having that set up. I barely get enough 3g signal to use my phone at all while at home.
All of us that are irritated at verizon for taking away the unlimited plans are going to be showing up at your homes soon (rotaryboots, POQbum... looking at you).
You will know it is us as we'll be the ones with the pitchforks and torches.
just kiddin...
But for those who haven't figured out why unlimited data plans are going extinct... the topic of this thread is the reason. Myself I've only done it temporarily one night, when my wired connection went down. I usually get my phone data from the wired source when possible, not the other way around.
Sweet. Makes me happy I snagged unlimited data while it was still available.
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I'll go further and better describe the setup, sometimes I use the wifi on my phone to broadcast the access but more often than not I plug it in to my old laptop which is plugged into my router via LAN cable then bridge the connections so that my wireless router uses the phone's internet and I can connect all my computers to my home network....winning
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I've had to do this a time or two when my main internet went down. Worked great. Now, however, I have my phone on prepaid network that offers very little data so it has to be basically an emergency for me to do this now. Still, love the fact that it can be done.
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But for those who haven't figured out why unlimited data plans are going extinct... the topic of this thread is the reason. Myself I've only done it temporarily one night, when my wired connection went down. I usually get my phone data from the wired source when possible, not the other way around.
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I agree a little. Here's my problem I am a husband and father that is having a hard time finding work right now. I have been with Verizon or Bell Atlantic since 1992. It costs me $200 a month for our two phones and has ALWAYS been in the extreme high side. Cable package after a year is also $200 a month. Something had to go. So we now watch HD broadcast TV and get our internet from our phones. I figure after 19+ years and some roughly $45,000 of my hard earned pay, I will use my unlimited data plan the way I like. You (Verizon) have been more than willing to take my money all these years and raise the rates every time you needed to. Well now its time to give back to a loyal customer.
So yes I do use my phone(s) internet as our MAIN INTERNET! And yet I think I have only been throttled one month. Which means that even as our main we still stay under the 5gb each.
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jblack55,
Sorry to hear about the financial difficulties. I was trying to be funny more than anything. I hope your family get through it soon. I'm just saying this is why Verizon doesn't have unlimited plans anymore.
But since you are getting all delusional... and self-righteous...here's some TRUTH.
You can rationalize that paying X number of dollars to Verizon in 1995 entitles you to whatever you want to. It entitles you to nothing. It was payment for service that was rendered back in 1995. If the price was too high at Verizon, you could have gotten your service elsewhere or decided to have no service. You are explicitly breaking the contract that YOU agreed to and currently have. Rationalize whatever you want... it doesn't make it true. And now other Verizon customers are getting their prices hiked even more, to pay for your dishonesty. Please rationalize how this is fair...I want to know. If the way you deal with Verizon is typical of the way you deal with other people and institutions, your unemployment situation is... justice... in a karma type of way.
So, there's a Super Bowl tomorrow...
I have internet at home, but I'm on the road most if the time, hotel internet sucks, and I have to log in everyday, so I'm using my phone internet over 95% of the time also to get my moneys worth out of Verizon.
I work two full time jobs and on my breaks or when it's slow, I am on my Incredible utilizing the Internet. I have the unlimited access plan which gives me peace of mind knowing I will not be paying more on my monthly bill than what my plan is set up for. I don't do Pandora or hotspot. Mostly forums, Google, and YouTube. Great way to kill some time when it is a slow night at work.
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I only use the internet from my phone when my internet goes out. Right now i am looking to get a 4g phone and will use that a lots since i have a slow connection and 4g is a lot faster.
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And now other Verizon customers are getting their prices hiked even more, to pay for your dishonesty. Please rationalize how this is fair...I want to know.
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Just wanted to say that Verizon's decision hardly comes from this, they make billions every quarter.
Their goal like every company is to make as much money as possible, and to get more investors they need to continually be making more profit every quarter. To make sure that happens they will raise prices and cut costs, including things like capping unlimited plans. It's not others peoples fault if they use what they're paying for, even if Verizon doesn't like it, you're still ultimately paying a premium price for cell service that well covers what you're using.
If you have 4G|LTE then Definitely
Ehh, depends. If you are in a VzW 4G|LTE area I would definitely consider it, I get faster download speeds on that than my home's Cablevision connection.
I voted eh, because I use it as the main source of internet in the truck. I do have cable at home for my missus and kids, but since I am only home a few days a month it is hard to count that as my internet. I often get 1.2 MB/s down and .1 MB/s up. i normally use 2-4 GB monthly. it might be more now that my co-driver watches jetflix from his tablet through my hotspot (opengarden rules...)
I do. Use at least 20gb a month, use tv out with netflix, use a vpn to watch foreign tv, and download magazines, ect. When I need a java browser I use Alwayson PC, no video/sound but when works for what I need it for. Would love to upgrade to 4g but won't give up my unlimited data.
Luckily we got my wife's thunderbolt a day before the unlimited plans disappeared. Without a cable connection to the house yet, the two phones are our sole connection to everything. Between us, we use about 15 to 20GB per month. When Verizon starts throttling her data, I just switch my hotspot on instead, and we keep going. We've even ran torrents through our 3G connection a few times - boy is that slow! But when there's nothing good on Hulu, we can download a 700MB movie in about an hour and a half. Watching the superbowl that way was a big disappointment though - no commercials and no halftime show? Were they kidding us?
Dont use it for my main net but I have used it a few times to get back on World of warcraft and it works decent to play and be on vent when my main net goes out in the middle of a raid which has happened quite abit lately. Small town sucky cable internet company, a small breeze in the wrong direction can knock out the net for hours lol.
Also I do have a question do you use any specific program to usb tether? Currently using PDA.net wondering if there was a better way.
I tried with the incredible but its just not fast enough...

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