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Help me please, hermes won't turn on

I searched to see if I could find an answer but there weren't any posts that could specifically help me. I only found one post but it wasn't clear.
My phone was working fine in the morning but when I checked on it after class it wouldn't wake up but light was still blinking. I thought a simple soft reset would unfreeze it but nothing. After removing the battery to get it to power off it won't turn back on. A guy posted this same problem in one of the threads and there was a mention of the battery but it was vague. When I try to charge it, there are no indicator lights. With the battery out, the red indicator light is on.
Can someone help me find out whats wrong and if I can fix it myself. Is it the battery or the phone? Thanks in advance

jchan4 said:
I searched to see if I could find an answer but there weren't any posts that could specifically help me. I only found one post but it wasn't clear.
My phone was working fine in the morning but when I checked on it after class it wouldn't wake up but light was still blinking. I thought a simple soft reset would unfreeze it but nothing. After removing the battery to get it to power off it won't turn back on. A guy posted this same problem in one of the threads and there was a mention of the battery but it was vague. When I try to charge it, there are no indicator lights. With the battery out, the red indicator light is on.
Can someone help me find out whats wrong and if I can fix it myself. Is it the battery or the phone? Thanks in advance
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Hi
First, I notice you have not tried a hard reset. This will in all probability fix your problems, but you will loose any data of your own that you have saved on the device. (hope you have a fullbackup!!)
Before doing the hard reset it may be worth running through the steps here http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!4472423472DCFC38!202.entry for the refusal to charge issue. You see I am not sure whether your device is not turning on because it has insufficient power or whether it has a major "crash". Hermes does have a problem for some folks when it reaches very low charge of not being able to staret charging. This though is normally indicated by a RED LED showing when charger is plugged in (clearly yours only does this with battery out - which is normal) Somehow you need to get that Amber LED showing. Repeat the charging solution a few times - it does not always work straight off.
When all else fails - hard reset.
Mike

nothing working yet
Hard reset isn't working. Is the menu supposed to come up even if theres no battery? Tried hard reset with and without the battery, but nothing pops up. Your charging solution hasn't worked yet but I'll keep trying. Any other things I can try? Thanks for the help mike.

It worked for me: Remove battery and plug it to AC during 5 minutes. Then insert the battery and soft reset. My TynT came back life in this way

'Dead device won't charge (solution provided)'
This isn't for your model I don't think, but the "won't charge" problem (and hence solution) sound similar. It worked for me on a dead SPV M3000 (HTC Wizard, iMate etc) (and was I grateful!!)
See http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?i=125518&thread=226
Paul

My TyTN just died - can anyone please help?

I got my TyTN a week ago (actually it is a Softbank X01HT)
The device just died today. I cannot turn it on (battery was fully charged), no lights are on, I tried removing the battery, SIM card, soft/hard reset nothing helps, it seems like it is dead and nothing is turning on even when connected to the power.
Can anyone please advise? is there anything I can do to revive it??
thanks

Does it show a constant RED LED light when you plug in the charger?
Mike

Can you describe the incident that lead to the "bricking" of your tytn?
The more we know the better we can make suggestion/give help.
sagig said:
I got my TyTN a week ago (actually it is a Softbank X01HT)
The device just died today. I cannot turn it on (battery was fully charged), no lights are on, I tried removing the battery, SIM card, soft/hard reset nothing helps, it seems like it is dead and nothing is turning on even when connected to the power.
Can anyone please advise? is there anything I can do to revive it??
thanks
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No light is on when connected, it is just all blank. I didn't do anything actually. Finished a phone call, put the device back in my pocket when I took it out again it was dead and coldn't do anything. No ROM change or software installation or anything. I was wondering if there is any way to "revive" it.
Thank you for the help in advance !

sagig said:
No light is on when connected, it is just all blank. I didn't do anything actually. Finished a phone call, put the device back in my pocket when I took it out again it was dead and coldn't do anything. No ROM change or software installation or anything. I was wondering if there is any way to "revive" it.
Thank you for the help in advance !
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Don't think I've heard of one being completely dead before. There are cases where the battery drains very rapidly to zero charge in a veryshort time and will then refuse to charge. BUT in those cases the device at least shows a RED no charge LED when you plug in the charger.
I don't think I can suggest anything other than warranty / repair. I assume you can rule out that the charger is faulty. This could be shown by plugging into PC using USB lead and confirming that again no RED LED shows.
One final thought but I think it is a long shot and that is to leave the battery out for 10 minutes and then retry.
It may be possible that an internal connector has come adrift but unless you wish to open it up then again we're back to warranty / repair.
Mike

Bad news for me. I was afraid I will have to do that...
Thanks for the reply though.
If anyone else has ny suggestion I'll be happy to hear it

Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?

Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!

I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.

I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????

I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.

I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.

I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please

Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.

I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?

Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???

miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help

New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.

nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021

Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24

No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

Please help me !!!

Hey guys, Well I'm going staight to the point. My Jasjar is letrally DEAD. two days ago. the battery was about 4-2%. the phone kept showing a message that I should recharge the battery "abviousely", but the problem that I wasnt at home to recharge it. Anyways, the phone turned off after a while and I thought it was becuse of the battery. So, when I wanted to recharge the battery, there was nothing, the phone didnt turn on. I even replaced the battery, but no good, and to make things more confusing, when I remove the battery and put the charger, the red light turns on, which means that there is a response, and when I put the battery back, just nothing.
I really hope that someone here help me, because I desperately need the phone these days. please guys help me.
Sorry for the long topic but I tried to give details as much as I could

not to be too obviouse, but you have left it charging for a while? the Uni will not switch on until the battery has been charged for a bit. However, I do believe the red light it on at this stage, even though the Uni won't switch on. Also, new batteries may not come in charged state, so same problem.
Another test may be to charge the universal in a battery charger, rather than the Uni.

boss shinoda said:
Hey guys, Well I'm going staight to the point. My Jasjar is letrally DEAD. two days ago. the battery was about 4-2%. the phone kept showing a message that I should recharge the battery "abviousely", but the problem that I wasnt at home to recharge it. Anyways, the phone turned off after a while and I thought it was becuse of the battery. So, when I wanted to recharge the battery, there was nothing, the phone didnt turn on. I even replaced the battery, but no good, and to make things more confusing, when I remove the battery and put the charger, the red light turns on, which means that there is a response, and when I put the battery back, just nothing.
I really hope that someone here help me, because I desperately need the phone these days. please guys help me.
Sorry for the long topic but I tried to give details as much as I could
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Welcome to the forum
I can add to -Jonny- suggestions to have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
Good luck,

Well, I've been charging it for a long time (2-3hours), but nothig...
Also, another strange thing poped up. whnen I leave the phone with the battery in it without charging for a while, and I plug the charger, the red lightturns on for like a munite and turns off again !!!!
I really don't know what to do, I don't even know what caused this problem, but from your replys I can tell that the problem is from the battery, and nothing is worng with the phone, cuz someone told me that it's a motherbord problem. So, is my phone ok? is it just a battery problem??
Thx for the replys, BTW

Suggestions
Try your battery in another Uni.
Try another NEW battery in your Uni.(you've )
Try to see if your device can be put in bootloader so to know it is not dead completely.
Simple suggestions.
But ..Been there...Done that..worked.

kalya said:
Try your battery in another Uni.
Try another NEW battery in your Uni.(you've )
Try to see if your device can be put in bootloader so to know it is not dead completely.
Simple suggestions.
But ..Been there...Done that..worked.
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Well thats a nice idea ,, Im ganna give it a try ASAP, and when I do so, I'll let ya know what happened
Thx for the reply

[Q] Ideos U8800+ dead.

HI ALL
I purchased this device about two weeks ago. The device was version 2.3.6.
The device worked very well. But for the first time it switches due to complete battery.
When I Connect it to charger a blue screen appeared.
Now there is no blue screen also.
Sometimes appears the logo IDEOS on the screen and sometimes red light flashes on top.
pleass try to help my.
ya.

Did you try to flash a stock ROM? Have a read on this thread nad follow some hints.. might work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138673&highlight=bluescreen

Thanks for the response.
bus as i sayed there is no blue screen any more.
when i connect it to the chargere ther is a flash red light on top. and after ~one minutes the logo "IDEOS" and thats all .
i didnt have any experience with "rom root atcc ...." so maybe im doing somthing wrong.
thanks again.

So the led just flashes red and then nothing happens. I had that happen to me once (SHAT MY PANTS), turns out the battery was flat dead.. attached it to the charger, left it for a while and voila..
But since you had a bluescreen (which I know doesnt occur anymore) it might be a different story... I'm sorry mate.
Unless you can get into PINK screen, I'm not sure what to tell you. What you can do, if you have a volt meter, test the battery!!

So I checked the battery voltage meter and the result shows #3.
What does it mean.
thanks.

Do you mean NUMBER 3? as in 3 volts?

yes, number 3 .
3 volts.
thanks

So that means that the battery still got some juice in it, but that doesnt mean it's not defective.
Try to remove the battery from the phone, plug the phone to the charger and try to switch it on. The phone should start up via USB power without battery (I tested it) if it does the same thing, then definitely it has nothing to do with battery.
Is the IDEOS logo still appearing? or did it stop?