Installing WM7 or Android on X1 in the future - theoretically possible? - XPERIA X1 General

Good afternoon, dear gurus!
First, thank you very much for this resourse(xda-developers.com), I've already found a lot of useful information here, thanks for supporting it!
I've heard that Windows Mobile has a huge problem with phone networks. People say that WM can turn into "temporary unable to receive calls and sms", although all icons show that everything works fine. Some people changed their devices to non-WM ones because of this problem.
As long as it's well-known WM bug, I assume that it will be fixed in WM7 or if not - it will be absent in Android(I hope). Therefore I have a question, can it be theoretically possible to flash Xperia X1 with a WM7 or Android firmware?
Thank you very much for your answer in advance.

J-Pro said:
Good afternoon, dear gurus!
First, thank you very much for this resourse(xda-developers.com), I've already found a lot of useful information here, thanks for supporting it!
I've heard that Windows Mobile has a huge problem with phone networks. People say that WM can turn into "temporary unable to receive calls and sms", although all icons show that everything works fine. Some people changed their devices to non-WM ones because of this problem.
As long as it's well-known WM bug, I assume that it will be fixed in WM7 or if not - it will be absent in Android(I hope). Therefore I have a question, can it be theoretically possible to flash Xperia X1 with a WM7 or Android firmware?
Thank you very much for your answer in advance.
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See the android thread for more info on android progress.

fards said:
See the android thread for more info on android progress.
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Understood, 50% of this question is clear. How about WM7? Any predictions?

depends on the drivers i guess.
if WM7 jsut runs on our phone theres a pretty good chance that we'll get it. if not, then we either have to hope that SE code drivers or some1 here.
id say it will work. both btw

J-Pro said:
Good afternoon, dear gurus!
I've heard that Windows Mobile has a huge problem with phone networks. People say that WM can turn into "temporary unable to receive calls and sms", although all icons show that everything works fine. Some people changed their devices to non-WM ones because of this problem.
As long as it's well-known WM bug, I assume that it will be fixed in WM7 or if not - it will be absent in Android(I hope).
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You are wrong, that is not true. There is no bug like this in any version of WM available. If someone say that then it could be becouse of poor device, or carrier problems, or wrong usage, but this is not a Windows Mobile bug/problem. Everyone with long practice on WM on this forum will tell you that.

ell82 said:
You are wrong, that is not true. There is no bug like this in any version of WM available. If someone say that then it could be becouse of poor device, or carrier problems, or wrong usage, but this is not a Windows Mobile bug/problem. Everyone with long practice on WM on this forum will tell you that.
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I better be wrong, because I've already ordered my Xperia X1 and was shocked when heard that thing... I hope that X1 with its memory amount and processor power will not show this issue.
Thanks for your answer.

J-Pro said:
I better be wrong, because I've already ordered my Xperia X1 and was shocked when heard that thing... I hope that X1 with its memory amount and processor power will not show this issue.
Thanks for your answer.
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Add faulty simcard to that list. You can get really weird problems with a bad sim.
It's the most common problem (heard this from both SE and my serviceprovider)

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WM6 on HTC Hermes: post rumor links here.

Figured I would start the thread. I know that at this point everyone still has no idea but I figured I would start a thread where people can post links to rumors as to whether HTC will have a WM6 rom for our favorite PPC.
WM6? How about a WM5 bug fix release?
Much as we'd all like to have WM6 on our Hermes devices, we can't even get an official WM5 bug fix release out of HTC. The last rumour was that we'd see one that would fix "all known bugs" by the end of January, it is now almost March!
I don't know about anyone else, but my patience is wearing very thin. It would be nice if someone in HTC would just say a date and stick to it, rather than the pre-canned responses that some people get.
John
samw52000 said:
Figured I would start the thread. I know that at this point everyone still has no idea but I figured I would start a thread where people can post links to rumors as to whether HTC will have a WM6 rom for our favorite PPC.
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Maybe go read the Upgrading forum and see there is going to be one soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294809
http://www.pocketfactory.com/2007/02/19/htc-wont-offer-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-to-customers/
on10.net, WM6 on 8525
http://on10.net/Blogs/laura/windows-mobile-6-is-here/
this video post suggests that the 8525 will have WM6 running on it.
I actually saw it on an 8525 recently. at a microsoft event.
That's pretty exiting!!!
It seems pretty certain that Windows Mobile 6 will be available on the HTC Hermes/Tytan.
WM6 on Cingular 85225 - Help!
Doh!
I loaded WM6 on my Phone and now, I'm missing my keyboard settings (When I hit the _ key, I get a ?, so I guess I need HTC Hermes specific 'drivers'? Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
I can't make a GPRS/EDGE connection, but I can make phone calls....no Wifi Drivers eitiher....
I found some cab files in the extended_rom, but still no GPRS....if someone knows the settings or a link to the settings, I would be ever so grateful.
Good news
On several forums there is the same question. When do we get an update.
I have a TyTN and live in Holland. I bought my TyTN straight out of the shop.
So I called the helpdesk and asked them when I could suspect an upgrade. The helpdesk told me that the tech-department in Taiwan was working on AKU3 and they would be finished at the end of March.
So... We have to wait a littlemore............. I hope in Taiwan a day is also 24h :-D
tembares said:
On several forums there is the same question. When do we get an update.
I have a TyTN and live in Holland. I bought my TyTN straight out of the shop.
So I called the helpdesk and asked them when I could suspect an upgrade. The helpdesk told me that the tech-department in Taiwan was working on AKU3 and they would be finished at the end of March.
So... We have to wait a littlemore............. I hope in Taiwan a day is also 24h :-D
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At least you got a response tembares, they totally ignored my questions! All I can say is, someone else posted here some time ago that they asked the same question, and the answer then was that AKU3 would be available at the end of January. And there were some test versions that came out at around that time, and they didn't fix all of the major issues that I have (in fact, very few). The new versions also created some new issues that I didn't have in the AKU2.3 version, one being a showstopper for me (cannot sync handheld with two computers). So I don't have very much faith or confidence in either the timeline or HTC's ability to fix the identified issues!
But all I can do is be patient, I don't have any other options I guess (except to start looking for another phone...)
John
knights2k3 said:
Doh!
I loaded WM6 on my Phone and now, I'm missing my keyboard settings (When I hit the _ key, I get a ?, so I guess I need HTC Hermes specific 'drivers'? Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
I can't make a GPRS/EDGE connection, but I can make phone calls....no Wifi Drivers eitiher....
I found some cab files in the extended_rom, but still no GPRS....if someone knows the settings or a link to the settings, I would be ever so grateful.
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There is a cab file in the Cingular extended ROM that you need to get. Copy it prior to loading up WM6, or I think there might be a link in the WM6 thread.
It would appear that the Cingular keyboard is layed out differently from the standart TYTN keyboard, and this cab file makes the necessary registry edits to make the keyboard behave like it's supposed to.
eMail from HTC:
"Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about Windows Mobile 6.0.
If you are interested in purchasing an unbranded HTC device with Windows Mobile 5.0, then to upgrade this to Windows Mobile 6.0. We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update. You may also be interested in some of our new devices being released with Windows Mobile 6.0"
An later:
"Dear Sir,
Windows Mobile 6 has not been even released and there is no official date so far.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates for Windows Mobile 5.0 and Windows Mobile 6.0"

Call Recorder Software for 8525

Hello everyone,
I am looking for a program that will let me click a button and record my phone coversation with someone on the cell phone. I do not know if that is even possible but I would like to be able to record important phone calls to my SD card.
Please let me know if you know of any software or way of doing this.
Thanks,
medmenz said:
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a program that will let me click a button and record my phone coversation with someone on the cell phone. I do not know if that is even possible but I would like to be able to record important phone calls to my SD card.
Please let me know if you know of any software or way of doing this.
Thanks,
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yes ... yes there is an app available regardless of the countless threads describing why there cannot be one (cred to Menneisyys who worked on that for ages)
how the app works is you pay someone to follow you around ( a stalker is good for this purpose and costs less) then when your phone rings you simply
-Hand it to them to answer
-Give a brief detailed message to the person on the phone(get someone with a good memory, it costs more but it is worth it)
-They write down a message.
-They hand back the phone (providing you pay them enough) then hand you the message.
its as easy as that!
(you could also just search to find the answer!)
Thank you for a very usless answer. I hope you didnt hurt yourself typing it.
Also searching it dont help because smart people like you post crap without knowing the answers so if you search there are 10 people saying that it works with resco or pm tools or vito recoder and others and the other half says it wont work with smart phones.
So who is right?
medmenz said:
Also searching it dont help because smart people like you post crap without knowing the answers so if you search there are 10 people saying that it works with resco or pm tools or vito recoder and others and the other half says it wont work with smart phones.
So who is right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271725&highlight=answering+machine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=254199&highlight=answering+machine
and theres another mega thread floating around that had about 20+ pages on it, found these 2 just with a basic search!
look before ye speak grasshopper.
not very bright
Old postI gave up on but i have not been here for a while and just have to say it.
Ok so the links he gave me take me to crap about answering machines which i was not looking for. I need to record phone calls not an answering machine. Also even if i was looking for an answering machine those posts still do not answer any questions just couple of people one saying well its hardware another no its software another we can break it another no we cant .....
The hardware limitation in the Hermes, and most other WM PPC phones for that matter, applies equally to answering machine as well as call recording software.
Buy a Gigabyte WM phone if this functionality is important to you. Or better, any Nokia Symbian S60.
Actually it DO appears to work...
I haven't done too much experiments yet but answering machine on my Hermes seems working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359781
N1kko said:
Actually it DO appears to work...
I haven't done too much experiments yet but answering machine on my Hermes seems working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359781
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Interesting... and the quality of the recorded audio is good? You don't need to keep the phone in speakerphone mode to record the audio, i.e. the phone will be quiet while recording the audio?
Does not work on hermes.
Yep... I'm having troubles too.
It seems I have spoken too fast.....
BUT they have released 3 major updates in the last few days.
New version is iSecretary 3.0.
Going to test it.
*EDIT*
In the first post they are looking for Call Recording software.
Answering machine is quite OT, so I posted my first impresions in the correct thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359781

Android .exe is there one?

Hi all have had my HD2 for 3 months now and have all the usual issues and it has been back to Vodafone a few times I dont really want to get rid of it as it is perfect size etc for vids and calendar sms for and an old codger like me for work with bad eyesight..
Heres the question I am not brain of britain at this sort of thing and want to know if there is an Android .exe I can run from my micro sd card that has all the upgraded stuff you need for a stable phone........I can add apps and that sort of thing but my technical knowledge is somewhat vague....I dont understand what Froyo is and your terms for radio this that and the other and could be surfing on here for days and not understand much....
I understand the dual boot bit as in the Windows operating system ( or not as the case is )
and Android effectively runs over the top of it but thats as far as I can get...
Any help would be gratefully received..
Regards Lee F
ps has anyone else had their phone dial out evertime you play a track on Nitro?....I came back from France to find each time I changed a song it dialed hope for 10 seconds and had a huge bill of .75p connection charge some 90 odd times......
what ....when ...how...im confused
Android is in fact a whole other system compared to Windows Mobile, and as of now, it isn't completely finished/'out of beta' yet. It is still less stable than Windows Mobile is on your device.
What I do suggest you to do is take a look at this thread, and get started with HSPL'ing your phone, so you can install a custom ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
The phone dialing out is one thing it shouldn't be doing for sure.
Actually sounds like a trojan horse.
Did you change the song with your wired headset? Because it can be used to dial the last dialed number that could be your problem. Also some earphones/speakers without a button can sometimes initiate it when you move the plug around....
cash_13 said:
my technical knowledge is somewhat vague....I dont understand what Froyo is and your terms for radio this that and the other and could be surfing on here for days and not understand much....
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I don't want to sound harsh, but I think Android on the HD2 is not for you.
Fedr0 said:
I don't want to sound harsh, but I think Android on the HD2 is not for you.
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ditto ....+1 ......bump
Fedr0 said:
I don't want to sound harsh, but I think Android on the HD2 is not for you.
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Well, that's no way to treat a fellow! Y'ought to explain to 'im.
Android on the HD2 is not finished yet (and will always require things like flashing or other not noob safe things) and has therefore some bugs, problems and limitations. For someone who isn't that good with technical things and hasn't read/understood all those guides it could cause some problems and misunderstandings etc. I can imagine someone sending in his HD2 for repair because his ambient light sensor doesn't work in Android...
...or at least opening some threads here and asking tons of dumb questions that could be easily answered by reading the stickies or using the search.
back to the topic:
cash_13 said:
Heres the question I am not brain of britain at this sort of thing and want to know if there is an Android .exe I can run from my micro sd card that has all the upgraded stuff you need for a stable phone
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There is no such .exe file. To Run Android you only need to run a .exe and a few files with it. But without a suitable Radio (the part of you operating system that is responsible for Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS and everything else that sends/receives data over the air), you will get problems. But finding and updating a suitable Radio sadly isn't as easy as running a .exe
But there are many guides on it which should help you, in case you still want to do it.
Buddy,
Right at the top of the forum here there are sticky threads that contain all the information you need to get HD2 running android. Please post you're questions there instead of opening a new thread.

[Q] Problem with Pdaimatejam

I have recently put on my phone Pdaimatejam 7.3 and everything seems to work fine except one thing, I can't get my phone activated to use the windows live things. I am a huge noob when it comes to this stuff so the answer may be obvious but I have no idea so any help will be very appreciated.
Hello!
Isn't any wp7 Rom at this moment that allows you live services! Even if it is called full unlocked... So ... You have to activate your service at Microsoft... It's not a big deal... Or just use Xap market, is already on your IE favourites!
Cheers!
smout1994 said:
I have recently put on my phone Pdaimatejam 7.3 and everything seems to work fine except one thing, I can't get my phone activated to use the windows live things. I am a huge noob when it comes to this stuff so the answer may be obvious but I have no idea so any help will be very appreciated.
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Have you gotten an activation code from Microsoft? There are plenty of tutorials of how to get one on here.... that should solve your problem. My live services work great!
Pdaimatejam have lots of bug ,there is new version all week!
W.P.7 said:
Pdaimatejam have lots of bug ,there is new version all week!
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yes but work best comparing to others.... also others cookers still not implemented new multitouch driver
W.P.7 said:
Pdaimatejam have lots of bug ,there is new version all week!
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Yes, there has been THREE updates, but I just see that as being responsive to peoples requests and fixing issues.
For me, it has been extremely more stable then the current version of Ultrafruit, and I haven't had too many problems. I use it heavily as a daily phone without any problems. And as the OP asked, Live services are running great. I was not able to download Live games on Ultrafruit.
smout1994 said:
I have recently put on my phone Pdaimatejam 7.3 and everything seems to work fine except one thing, I can't get my phone activated to use the windows live things. I am a huge noob when it comes to this stuff so the answer may be obvious but I have no idea so any help will be very appreciated.
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Easiest way is to request an activation code via chat function on Microsoft page. Worked for me in UK, I told them phone was an HD7.
There are plenty of threads in this forum on how to do this, a quick search will reveal all the answers you need.. Good luck
W.P.7 said:
Pdaimatejam have lots of bug ,there is new version all week!
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Bug is bug, is matter more or less and can it be Daily used?
no more bug in Pdaimatejam rom than in a 'official' release from htc in his WP7 phone !!
when i read his posts, i think W.P.7 is against any change !!
so he must stay with is old WM6 ^^
any one else having problems with the proximity sensor during phone calls?
I make the call, place the phone next to my face, it turns off the screen then its right back on and i end up hanging up or the speaker phone comes on and it loud as all hell...
Using
3_HD2_Pdaimatejam_Rom_Wp7.5_mango_7.10.8107.79_v7.3
this question is solved so better close the thread before going more off topic. Please use the search function before open a new thread and post questions in existing threads. Dispersed information helps to nobody.

BLUETOOTH Probem

I can't receive or send files in my omnia 7?
Is this normal?
Yes it doesn't enabled, maybe in the DFT ROM
Thanks. I have to try the dft rom but i think that it doent have the portuguese language.
Bluetooth transfer isn't supported on WP7 at the moment. DFT Rom won't solve that. Will we get that option ever is solely on Microsoft. Maybe it will come with Win8/apollo, we'll see...
Ok, thanks. I dont untherstand microsoft.
hi dear all,
i think it's changing search on google "gupigame" + "wpbots"
(sorry for that i am new)
there is a way to use the blutooth for something else... so just need to know how he did
It will come!!!
windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/1549711-support-bluetooth-file-transfer
On this side, Microsoft collects userfeedback. There are many more or less useless things in here, BUT Microsoft's people put comments on the features that say that some things are "under construction", meaning they might come in Appollo. One of the things that got this comment was Bluetooth file transfer...

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