X1 Camera - XPERIA X1 General

I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.

Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.

Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing

Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.

Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/

One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.

the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.

I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.

fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?

open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic

i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?

Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly

For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work

Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus

When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck

I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.

Related

rapid shutter app

is there an app which allows the camera shutter to take rapid shots? this is almost related to the "camera timer" topic posted recently. that app has a function to dictate the number of loops within a certain number of seconds delay.
in this case would it be possible to have an app that allows the camera to take successive shots? say; when you press the camera button...unless you release it the camera would continuously take pictures.
just curious...food for thought.
cheers
very few have access to the camara api
so there is yet to come many applications which work with it
You don't need the camera api for this. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I can convert my timer app to do this. I might get it done tomorrow if I have 5 mins spare.
Copy this file into your \Windows\Start Menu\(where you like) folder. Then goto Settings->Personal->BUttons and select "Rapid Shot" for Button 3 (Camera).
Now when you hold down the Camera button it will keep taking pictures until you release it (upto 100)
It's a bit of a hack for now but if I get a chance I'll tidy it up and put it into the camera timer app.
Cheers
Jamie
hey it works! cool!
regarding "It's a bit of a hack for now but if I get a chance I'll tidy it up and put it into the camera timer app."; you may need to change the name of your program to accomodate the enhancements for the camera
thanks! cheers then
Wow. This is pretty cool.
I have a couple of comments. I don't want this sound like I am hassling you for updates to the proggy, its more of a "I have noticed the following behaviour" and if you find you wanna get around to looking at it good for you.
1 - The program relies on you being in still camera mode for it to work. If you are in video or that crappy other template mode, it just records or takes the two shots.
2 - Any chance of speeding it up?
3 - If after you have released the camera button and you are shown the preview screen if you press the camera icon the program starts to take happy snaps.
The way I think it would be cool and again, please take this as postive feedback, is if you can press the camera button to launch the camera app and then if you subsequently press and hold the camera button again, the burt mode is activates for the still shots, regardless of what capture mode you were in previously. I.e. pressing and holding will change from video to camera mode and start the burft captures.
Again, great work!! I really like the option to have burst mode. I could never press buttons that fast :lol:
wowww it is really amazing app!
thanks!
little note: when I start it manually and clik on "Go" only, it never stops taking pictures. Bug??

Removing G1 Shutter waiting time and various settings

Well, I noticed many people were unhappy with the shutter timing.
This is very annoying, but hey, I think it is neccesary.
I apologize if a thread like this has already been posted.
Anywhom, there is a simple application in the market that may help you with this issue.
How-To:
1.) Visit the Market, and search for the application (SnapPhoto).
-SnapPhoto will give you the option to change many interface settings with the Android Camera. ( Brightness, Effects, Shutter, etc... )
2.) After you find the application, you need to download it, obviously.
After the download, Run it, and Click your menu button, and choose (Settings)
3.) Ok, now, you should see a list of settings. I wont explain them too you, as they are blantly explained in the description.
-Such as brightness(I assume everyone will catch on to these automatically)
4.) Ok, after you have changed any settings you want, you can change your shutter by returning the the Main application (SnapPhoto), and press the Camera Side Button ( this is the camera button on the right side of your phone.
-You should see a message that says "Disabling Stability detect". This removes the shutter wait time. It can also effect your image quality if you are moving and such.(Which is the main purpose of have auto-focus and such components.)
PS: To re-enable Your auto-focus/shutter, simply go to the app, and press the camera button, and it should say "Detecting Stability", exit app, and go to the actual camera .
!Enjoy
I dunno, if I wanted to turn off the auto-focus, I'd just take photos with the track-ball and not the camera button.
The track-ball takes photos in about 1second (compared to the 3-5second autofocus). I believe it is the default no-focus quicksnap button. May not be as widely known as I thought.
KyleK29 said:
I dunno, if I wanted to turn off the auto-focus, I'd just take photos with the track-ball and not the camera button.
The track-ball takes photos in about 1second (compared to the 3-5second autofocus). I believe it is the default no-focus quicksnap button. May not be as widely known as I thought.
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Are you sure? i have done a great deal of phtographing on this device and never noticed that. i just tried it now and i was able to take a pic just as fast with the camera button as the trackball. Also, when i press the trackball, it does auto-focus, so im not sure why you would say it does not. If you swing the camera and do not let the lense itself focus on the new item, then yes, there is no delay because the camera thinks that you are still looking at the same point of focus. That is the only time mine does not focus. If you turn and wait even 1 sec, then take a pic, it will auto-focus. I promise!
(ok i was able to finally get your result, but only after i focused it 1st with the camera button, then i tapped the trackball and the shot was instant)
The difference that i have seen between the camera button and the trackball is that if you half-press the camera button, it will focus, but not take the picture. The trackball is a static switch and thus cannot do that. (also the camera button sucks. i bet most of the camera problem come from the need to press that button so far into the phone causing the device to move and cause blur and needs to refocus. also, i would not be suprised if some are unaware that this 1/2 press exists and think that the camera is just not working correctly.)
For really clean pics, i suggest finding you shot, then 1/2 press the camera button. Let it focus on the subject. Then find the most stable way to hold the phone and use the trackball to take the picture. (less pressure needed = less shake and better pics) Works great for me and as i mentioned above, you can get instant pics with this method, as long as the camera does not think that it has moved.

Autofocus doesnt work on Camera

hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english
Ripperjack75 said:
hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english
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Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck
Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB
johncmolyneux said:
Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck
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the one and only option ist "Touch Focus" i see on advanced options.
Do u mean, a rom updated doenstn work, when 1.61 is official or a higher rom?
on my phone, i hear a voice on the lensse when it sharpened the picture, on my girlfriends phone there is no voice on the lense, only the white quad moves, but there is no noise from the lense.
mayebe it is possible to destroy the Focus, when i update the camera patch and do optimices with BSB Tweaks?
wacky.banana said:
Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB
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i have only the german one. But i try to read it, when i am at home. the htc page is not available here at work ;(
can u copy and paste it maybe in this thread?
thx
Ripperjack,
See this...
" ... • Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo.
• Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
start capturing a video. Press the button again to stop capturing.
To take a photo using Touch Focus
Touch Focus allows you to focus on a particular area of the screen by
touching it. Touch Focus is enabled by default and is available in the
Photo and Contacts Picture capture modes.
1. Set the capture mode to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Tap the area on the screen where you want to focus. The focus
indicator positions itself on the selected area.
Note If you tap outside the effective focus area, a white box appears to
indicate the area where you can use Touch Focus.
3. Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo. You can also directly press and hold the area you
selected (that is, the area enclosed within the focus indicator) to
focus on that area and take a photo.
To capture photos in Panorama mode
Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and capture
the first photo. Press and hold the button again to focus and capture
each subsequent photo and complete the panorama....."
WB
Full manual available here...http://www.htc.com/uk/userguide.aspx?p_id=297
PS: I just checked on my device. If yo go into the camera app>settings>advanced, make sure Touch Focus on the first page is set to ON.
ok, thx. Try this all. But have no effect. Onlyo the Quad moves, but not sharpening the Picture.
A new ROM maybe cannot repair this?
Hi Ripperjack,
If I were you I would move to the official ROM 1.48. Then BEFORE loading any fixes or software on (1.48 has most of them in it anyway) I would test the camera and see if it works according to the handbook.
If it does not then you might want to consider sending the device back as faulty and getting a replacement.
Cheers
WB
have the original 1.48 ROM from HTC on my HD2. It was on my phone already, when i get it. Girlfriends phone also have 1.48. I wanna try to flash the 1.61 Custom on my phone, but when i do this, i loose my warranty?
otherwise, is there any Registry entry to activate/deactivate the Focus on Camera?
push maybe someone know it?

[Q]Camcorder Auto-Focus OK, but why not in Camera ?

Hi to all,
is working the auto-focus on camera ?? or it only me that i have this issue ?
autofocus works fine in camcorder, but i trying to take a photo of my bussines-card and i cant read my name.. number.. etc :/
happen to all ?
thank, and sorry for my english
I can't get the camera to focus either. I'm guessing the HD7 camera button is the kind that focuses when you press it lightly, and takes the picture when you press it completely.
So I'm thinking the only way to get it to focus is to map the function to a different key. But that might not be possible.
Just my thoughts...
I notices This issue too, but found an easy way to focus with camera. 2 Options :
- Having your phone pointing the object you want to take a picture of before launching the camera software -> focus ok 80%
Or
- Just switch to video camera (->Autofocus) then switch back to photo mode (still focused)
I hope it helps a bit
Nevralgeek said:
I notices This issue too, but found an easy way to focus with camera. 2 Options :
- Having your phone pointing the object you want to take a picture of before launching the camera software -> focus ok 80%
Or
- Just switch to video camera (->Autofocus) then switch back to photo mode (still focused)
I hope it helps a bit
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option 2 works fine thank a lot

Blurry Photos

I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.
I would also like to add that one of my friends was trying to take photos with his lg quantum as well, and he has the same problem. Is this a problem with windows phone 7 in general?
you could check out shcamera. It's a sideloaded app that was developed for the hd2 crowd, so it doesn't use the camera button, it's all screen rouc, and it doesn't have all the various settings/adjustments, but it saves settings and works pretty good. Tap screen to focus, press onscreen shutter button to take picture.
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Turn on antishake in settings used to hav the same problem fixed via antishake thing bt the worse part is u hav to change it everytime u r abt to click pictures bcoz u cant save camera settings ...
DKDogz54 said:
I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.
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Same here. I owned an HD7 that didn't have this blurry issue. It seems the Focus camera is super sensitive to movement.
Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.
DKDogz54 said:
Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.
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You might consider having them take more than one picture. I've noticed that when I take another picture after the blurry one, the results tend to be more normal. Maybe have them take a preliminary picture and then a real one. This seems preferable to messing with settings all the time.
Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!
DKDogz54 said:
Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!
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the nodo update didnt default the anti shake on by default on my focus .
The official nodo update for att focus includes a Samsung update that defaults the antishake on, helps lessen accidental capacitive button presses, includes an att hotspot sniffer/whisper that auto logins, and has a provision for transferring att phonebook contacts onto the phone
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Focus
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.
JamesAllen said:
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.
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Me, too. Still have blurry pics, though.
in low light indoors you might want to try the setting photo quality on medium instead of the default hi setting.

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