Hi. I was looking at the Manilla 2D thread and to be honest I find it somewhat confusing. can anyone tell me the steps to take with my touch 3g to get it working. here are my questions:
1/ What is the install order of the files to get Manilla 2D working? (including bug fixes)
2/ Can Manilla 2D be easily uninstalled?
3/ There is a program I saw mentioned which allows browsing and then choosing of Manilla 2D skins. Does it allow you to use Touch Flo 2D as an option?
4/ Do I have to get a new ROM to do this?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Why do you post this in the Jade (Touch 3G) forum ?
TouchFlo 2D ( = Manilla 2D) is already installed on the Touch 3G. There is no need to install Manilla.
Ok I saw the skins and thought that I needed to install something on top of touch flo 2D. I thought manilla was something different. So therefore all I need to do is install the theme manager and get going with downloading themes.
Got it sorted .
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I can install the 2D Manila qvga version on my universal. but it only appear a quarter of the today.
Is 2D Manila from diamond which is VGA version?
Can some guys tell me how to install 2D Manila into my universal ? I love 2D Manila so much.
Thanks~~~
Search the forum...there is already a thread somewhere about making in to VGA
Ah wel i'm in a good mood here is the linkhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
And for clarification:
The Diamond has Manila3D not Manila2D. Manila2D came from a QVGA device.
So just got my Xperia the other day and am looking to make the jump to Touch Flo 3d. Looking on the forum here there's at least 6 different versions and I'm kinda confused on what the differences between these even are.
Can someone please clarify the difference between:
Touch Flo 3d 1
Touch Flo 3d 2
Touch Flo 3d HTC Blackstone
Manila
Manila Touch HD
Manila V2
I noticed that there's also a lot of confrontation between installing touch flo as a ROM or just running it on a panel from a CAB file. What are the advantages of either. If possible I'd prefer to keep the Xperia panels and just run Touch Flo in a panel.
Also while I'm at it since I don't think it's worth another thread, can I run the Windows Mobile 6.5 beta in a panel or do I have to install it and wipe out windows mobile 6.1?
I am quite sure that WM 6.5 needs to be installed instead of WM 6.1.
About the Touch flo's im in the same boat... i just would like the "best" version as a panel. So thank you for bringing this up
Windows mobile is the platform on which all your programs run, including the panel manager and touchflo.
There's currently two* versions of TF3D, TF3D 1 and TF3D 2. Manila == TF3D.
The best and newest at the moment is TF3D2, as stickied, it has landscape support, but it also has a few bugs, as it's a beta build. All in all, it works more that good enough.
Best thing I can recommend is flashing one of itje's ROMS, preferably the new 4.0, which has TF3D2. This way, you'll have TF3D as your homescreen, but also the panels.
* Not including different beta's.
Alright thanks a lot, looks like I'll be installing that Touch Flo 3d2 ROM then.
Quick question though. Even if I flash this I'm going to assume I'm not resetting windows mobile since the xperia interface and touch flo 3d are just "skins" for windows mobile, so I wouldn't have to reinput all my settings?
When you flash your ROM, everything will be erased.
If you however just want to install TF3D and keep everything, you will have to wait for daran_clarke to finish his TF3d .cab, which you just install on your phone just like any application.
i recommend running TF3D2 from a rom, because the responsiveness and speed is increased alot. i recommend itje's touch it landscape ver 1.1 rom, as this is the most stable and normal version, as opposed to ver 4 which is lets say... a bit different. if you are intersested i will provide the rapidlinks to this no longer available rom
Already installed itje's V4 and am extremely pleased since it hasn't crashed yet. However I tried going on youtube and the video is really choppy and out of sync with the audio, which used to not be the case. Tested it both on wifi and edge and the data speed makes no difference. Any ideas?
NiklasK said:
Already installed itje's V4 and am extremely pleased since it hasn't crashed yet. However I tried going on youtube and the video is really choppy and out of sync with the audio, which used to not be the case. Tested it both on wifi and edge and the data speed makes no difference. Any ideas?
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Itje's V4 is (although the filename doesn't tell you this) still in it's beta stages. Some problems will still occur, but Itje is working on it.
That's the reason flext recommended you 1.1.
Am I supposed to have to reinstall the radio, because my EDGE has stopped working altogether since installing Touch Flo 3d?
NiklasK said:
Am I supposed to have to reinstall the radio, because my EDGE has stopped working altogether since installing Touch Flo 3d?
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Nope, that seems to be an unrelated problem. I've never seen reports of EDGE failing after TF3D installation. If the problem persists, you might want to try a hard-reset (also removing TF3D again).
flashing to tf3d 2 rom
iam kinda new at this and iam trying to flash to tf3d 2 rom because the theme that iam trying to get does not work with my stock rom..
NiklasK said:
So just got my Xperia the other day and am looking to make the jump to Touch Flo 3d. Looking on the forum here there's at least 6 different versions and I'm kinda confused on what the differences between these even are.
Can someone please clarify the difference between:
Touch Flo 3d 1
Touch Flo 3d 2
Touch Flo 3d HTC Blackstone
Manila
Manila Touch HD
Manila V2
I noticed that there's also a lot of confrontation between installing touch flo as a ROM or just running it on a panel from a CAB file. What are the advantages of either. If possible I'd prefer to keep the Xperia panels and just run Touch Flo in a panel.
Also while I'm at it since I don't think it's worth another thread, can I run the Windows Mobile 6.5 beta in a panel or do I have to install it and wipe out windows mobile 6.1?
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TouchFlo 3D 2 works in portrait and landscape mode [latest version]
TouchFlo 3D 1 has touch flo tabs but only in portrait mode
Manilla is the TouchFlo cube [it isnt touch flo 3d at all]
Manilla HD is the same as Touch Flo 1
Manilla V2, I think is Touch Flo 3D.....
Forgive me for the guessing...I don't use touch flo
I remember reading somewhere that Touch3G aka Jade has TouchFlo 2.
But on my Jade if I go to Settings/System/TouchFLO it says:
TouchFLO version 3.0 (build 31508).
So what do I have? Manila, Touchflo, 2D, 3D ??? Could somebody please explain the HTC language to me?
Also, specific to the Jade, what is the difference between themes and skins? Isn't it the same? I am reasonably computer literate, but like clear definitions of things.
Reading through the posts on Manila modifications, one poster stated:
What version of TouchFLO have you installed? You need to have at least M2D version 20
How come that my phone is new, and I only have version 3??
Thanks for help
Joe
Manilla 2D
The Jade has TouchFlo 2D (as in 2 dimensional) also known as Manila 2D, TF2D or M2D.
Themes and skins are, afaik, the same, and the person stating that you have to have at least version 20 means version 2.0 actually.
'Manila' btw is HTC's codename for the Touchflo interface
Touchflo 3D (also known as Manila 3D, TF3D of M3D) is a different story.
Whether a HTC phone has TouchFlo 2D or 3D depends on the capacity and resolution of the screen. The Jade has a QVGA screen (quarter VGA aka 240 x 320 pixels) and can't handle the TF3D animations and touch posibilities.
A phone with a VGA screen (640 x 480 pixels), like the Diamond, usually has Touhflo 3D.
Fellow forumers, plz correct me if i'm wrong....but this is what i know.
Hope i helped you out a bit
Thank you Nirak for help. So I have TouchFLO 2D v.3.
If have a few more questions for those who modified their Touchflo -
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices -
Uninstall it (don't know how) and find and install a new one; or
modify the existing one with registry edits and/or Manila Customiser.
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
Thanks
Joe
jfranek said:
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices
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If you want to change (I assume modify/customise) you can do many things including changing the registry, yes and also change the graphics, etc.
jfranek said:
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
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AFAIK, briefly the customiser (M2DC) does not run alongside. It's just a program that does (simplify) the registry editing and a few *.xml files (for customisation) for those who do not wish to dwell into. yes M2DC can be uninstalled (after using) and TF2D runs fine.
I am not sure how to uninstall TF2D but you can always deactivate if you do not wish to use it and use other today themes or plugins, etc.
uninstalling TF2D that is included (cooked) in your ROM is not possible, but as Azahidi says, you can deactivate it and use the standard Windows interface, or any other shell you prefer, like SPB Mobile Shell, and there are others.
Basically TF2D is also just a shell round your Windows Mobile System, that's suppossed to make it easier to use (not always is...) and more 'eye candier' .
The M2DCustomizer is a easy to use utility to modify the settings of TF2D and use other skins, look over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974 (older skins)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
Since i'm not that much of a techi i like using M2D Customizer, but just like Azahidi says, these modifyings can also be done by editing the registry and/or .xml files
To give you an idea, here is a screenshot of my Jade's homepage with basically the standard TF2D, modified with another skin:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct?
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
Joe
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days-trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
Thanks, MvBoe, I think I will try it.
Joe
jfranek said:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct
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Yep, totally, just remember first thing to do is making a back up of your original theme, M2D Customizer has a tab for it ('restore')
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Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
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Correct again
jfranek said:
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
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I really have no clue if sucha program exists.
stupid question
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...
Matio said:
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...
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You can install anything on your device, depending on the purpose and your liking, and how you want to customise your today screen. Yes you can install Manilla2D (TF2D). Just search xda, get (download) the .cab file to your PC, copy to your device (or download straight to your device) and then run it.
Many thanks for your answer azahidi.
I tried to install M2D as you told me. I folowed the guide witch is here. So that I have installed HTC Home v 2.1. and after that [11.3.08-Update 20] M2D Build 1.0.18203328 - Jade (TOUCH 3G Version). Restarted device, but nothing happened. When I turn my Home screen as TouchFLO, on my screen appeares text: "Tap here to launch TouchFLO" and when I tap there, the whole device becomes to be totally frozen.
Can anyone help?
MvBoe said:
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days Trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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I greatly agree. SPB Shell is 10 times better and user friendlier then TF2D. I had TF2D for about a week and tried out SPB Shell 3.5 and I have never gone back. I am one happy customer.
I hate of the TouchFLO 2.0 that just give some of the limited animations.
I want to say that, is it possible to port it?
This question has been answerd here before.......not possible.....please use search first.
Hi guys,
I'm quite confused actually. What's the difference between those 3? Are they the same?
After read a ton of threads, seems like Sense and Manila means the same. But I realize that TouchFlo is seldom mentioned in this forum.
My Mega is stocked with TouchFlo 2.0.2016.3224 is that = Sense Version 2.0 (build 2016.3224)? Does it means I have Manila 2D?
This is my stock ROM info:
ROM: 1.37.728.3 (95995)
ROM Date: 07/22/10
Radio: 3.54.25.25
Protocol: 61.55t.25.38H
Does this means whenever I look for themes to download I have to look for those created for Sense 2.0 only? Anyway to upgrade to Sense 2.5 so I can try themes like GTX?
its alwasy confused me as well....i believe manilla and touchflo 2d are the same thing
i think sense refers to touchflo 3d which i don't think the mega supports....
i am probably;y way off though
if you read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
it says Manila 2D or TouchFlo 2D == M2D which i think is the same thing. Manila = TouchFlo. and then i've updated my mega yesterday and i got Sense instead of Touchflo.
so my conclusion is TouchFlo 2D = Manila 2D = Sense 2.0. please correct me if i'm wrong.
edit: Manila/Sense 2.5 IS TouchFlo 3D. which mega doesn't support.
Indeed if you want to cut a long story short than manila 2D = touch flo 2D. And "sense" is commonly used for touch flo 2.5 = 3D.
Frank C said:
Indeed if you want to cut a long story short than manila 2D = touch flo 2D. And "sense" is commonly used for touch flo 2.5 = 3D.
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so i was right then.
WOW.....dont think thats ever happened before. think i need a lie down
amienzero said:
if you read this thread
it says Manila 2D or TouchFlo 2D == M2D which i think is the same thing. Manila = TouchFlo. and then i've updated my mega yesterday and i got Sense instead of Touchflo.
so my conclusion is TouchFlo 2D = Manila 2D = Sense 2.0. please correct me if i'm wrong.
edit: Manila/Sense 2.5 IS TouchFlo 3D. which mega doesn't support.
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Frank C said:
Indeed if you want to cut a long story short than manila 2D = touch flo 2D. And "sense" is commonly used for touch flo 2.5 = 3D.
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So back to my 2nd QNS, which means Mega cannot ever have Sense 2.5 or TouchFlo 3D??
I'll never be able to enjoy themes like GTX??
Damn... Time to start cooking... T_T
It is not that it is impossible...but requires a lot of work ......for some devices 3D drivers have been developed....
There are GTX theme's for 2D aswell....I posted a link last week http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697530 ....and when you search you will find more.....