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Idea: Clicking sound when typing on the keyboard or other apps?

I don't know if you guys saw how the Blackberry Storm when you click the keyboard it makes clicking sounds to enable the fact that you clicked each button. I was wondering if something like this is available for our diamond. Never really considered this as a option but after I saw it in use its actually pretty cool.
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Settings -> Sounds & Notifications -> Enable Screen Taps!

mathiaspe said:
Settings -> Sounds & Notifications -> Enable Screen Taps!
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Hehe thanks should have kown better been using win mobile for like 3 years. Oooh well thanks.

Except that enabling the screen tap sound is universal for anytime the screen is touched, which is horribly annoying when panning and scrolling. I would love to see an option where the SIPs (including the dialpad) are modified to click (and preferably vibrate) whenever a soft key is pressed, but not for anything else.

RedJ said:
Except that enabling the screen tap sound is universal for anytime the screen is touched, which is horribly annoying when panning and scrolling. I would love to see an option where the SIPs (including the dialpad) are modified to click (and preferably vibrate) whenever a soft key is pressed, but not for anything else.
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Exactly.
Universal clicking is so annoying and useless.

I second this request!
Hi Keyboard always had typing sounds, and I've gotten used to it.
That's the only thing missing from the great HTC keyboards...

Haptic feedback...
Someone here at XDA is already working on something like this. It's in its very early stages, but sounds like it may be what you're looking for.
Take a look here.
Hope this helps.

grahamkdt said:
Someone here at XDA is already working on something like this. It's in its very early stages, but sounds like it may be what you're looking for.
Take a look here.
Hope this helps.
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Looking for audible clicking, not vibration. The same result as "enable screen taps" but with the application control of this guy's vibrate program. That would be ideal.

Some 3rd party keyboards have an option to turn on clicking sounds.
TouchPal definitely does and it's also the best keyboard I've used.

Davey101 said:
Some 3rd party keyboards have an option to turn on clicking sounds.
TouchPal definitely does and it's also the best keyboard I've used.
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Thanks for the tip, but I'm in love with the tiny, stylus-necessary "keyboard" layout on my Diamond.
Surely there is a simple reg hack for this?

ajd6c8 said:
Thanks for the tip, but I'm in love with the tiny, stylus-necessary "keyboard" layout on my Diamond.
Surely there is a simple reg hack for this?
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TouchPal has 3 layouts including full qwerty and it works better than the HTC one, smarter T9, etc.
Otherwise, I'm sure it would be very easy to modify the vibrate software mentioned above so that it makes noise. Worth asking for help from the author.

[App Needed] Gesture Control

As seen on Sony Ericsson W380 Gesture control
"Another novel feature of the W380 is its gesture control. Switch this feature on and you will be able to silence incoming calls or snooze alarm clocks by simply passing the palm of your hand above the sensor"
Well maybe this is a long shot but anyone has any idea if a program like that exists on WinMo?

Well as far as I see Sony made this Feature with help of a proximity-sensor and the only Phone/PDA I know which has one is the TouchPro 2
But there are a lot of Apps which let you silence Calls (built-in in most htc devices) and let you snooze alarm clocks by shaking or turning the Phones, also they let you unlock your Device and soooo much more funny things =)
give it a shot

Vicyl said:
Well as far as I see Sony made this Feature with help of a proximity-sensor and the only Phone/PDA I know which has one is the TouchPro 2
But there are a lot of Apps which let you silence Calls (built-in in most htc devices) and let you snooze alarm clocks by shaking or turning the Phones, also they let you unlock your Device and soooo much more funny things =)
give it a shot
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yeah, but without touching the device? i guess if there is an app that enables camera when phone rings this thing can be done

Well you're free to try but i don't think you're chances of success are high
good luck

nicandris said:
i guess if there is an app that enables camera when phone rings this thing can be done
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you can execute camera app with mortscript on the incoming call i think.

i think the i900 has proximity sensor......

sorry it doesnt.......

i8000 Omnia2 has it!

yup thats right..........

does it have it as a device you mean or does it work as an application?

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think best/easiest way on HD wouldbe light sensor on top.
So on incoming call it should check if there is a short light-interruption.
Prob:
just works if phone shows face up on your desk
And won't work if room is dark (perhaps could work other way round - if it's too dark - check for short light notice, reflected by your hand from display)
otherwise is would be to hard and battery intensive cause you have to check both cameras (back and front) for changes.
I know silencing without touching it sound interesting but its a bit too playful for me.
Cause pressing vol down button is fastes way to silence.
Another way already included in some progs is turning phone face down to silence - think it's as stylish as waving to your phone.
greets
FrEcP

FTouchSL has some screen based user definable gesture controls and is an extremely useful app, but no proximity controls.

FrEcP said:
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Cause pressing vol down button is fastes way to silence.
Another way already included in some progs is turning phone face down to silence - think it's as stylish as waving to your phone.
greets
FrEcP
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so g-sensor can be used also. i think it's used by g-alarm on snooze, anyone seen it for silence also?

Updated [Jan-10]: [App] [G-Sensor] [Brand New] The XSense v1.2 Final

Credits:
Foremost, let us all acknowledge Koushik for his brilliant "Sensors" library upon which most if not all non-HTC apps that use the G-Sensor, Light-Sensor, and Navi-Sensor are built, simply ingenious. Moreover, I would like to recognize No2chem for the NeuLed2 library which is an equally exquisite peace of code that allows access to the Diamond/Pro Leds. Without those two guys, accessing these advance interfaces on the diamond/pro would be inapproachable at best.
Reason: HTC gave these phones lots of sensors, lets give them.."Sense".
......... EXTRA-Sense ...........
* Hopefully an innovaton, though mostly an integration of RANDOM but needful features...
Features:
1. Courtesy Profiles:
- Set Volume Profiles to activate on Face-Down & Face-UP events. Choose from: None, Silent, Normal, and Vibrate. You can also choose to suspend the Phone when its facing down.
2. Notifications-Sense:
- IF there is/are any outstanding notification(s), the device will vibrate whenever you move it - at customizable intervals: Missed Call(s), Voice Mail, and SMS.
3. Stylus-Sense:- When the Stylus is in/out: Will play sound + Blink the Back button's light.
- When the Stylus is out and the device is moved: Device will vibrate faintly + blink the Back button's light to REMIND you that the Stylus has not been placed back in. This goes on UNTIL the Stylus is placed where it should be.
* Uses "in.wav" & "out.wav" files in the \XSense\ Dir; you can use whatever wave files for this. OR, use the UI to select whichever wave files you want!
4. General Settings:
- Polling Interval: From 200 to 3000 Miliseconds. This determines the rate at which the G-Sensor is polled. Lower values give higher response times and fluid operation at the cost of battery life & CPU utilization.
- Flash Navi Lights: Will blink button lights to notify you of Profile changes and Stylus In/Out.
- Vibrate on Events: Will induce very subtle vibrations to notify you of Notifications and Profile changes.
- Suspend when UP-Side-Down: ???
- Light Navi Button When Suspended: Will do just that when the Light Sensor senses Dim or Dark conditions. This is an independent setting that turns ON the Navi button's light at suspend time, and OFF at Resume time (this is Event Driven, so no polling is involved). This feature really helps if, like me, you want to see where the damn thing is in the dark - before you launch it against the floor.
5. Installs to "\Program Files\XSense", and Creates 2 shortcuts:
"Start Menu\Programs\XSense" and "Startup\XSenseSvc".
Program Settings are saved to the Registry at "HKCU\Software\XSense\".
Use of System Resources:
1. Diskspace: 162 KB RAM footprint: 374-535 KB Battery: NOT observed.
2. CPU Usage: %0.29 Average. Spikes for 2 seconds to %2.7 - %8.5.
3. Battery Impact: Neligeable if at all!
* Indicated CPU usage occurs ONLY when there is an EVENT (posture changed, stylus in/out Sounds playing,
etc)
- Vibration: The way I like it is in waves of 200 miliseconds length! I generally hate vibrations, so if you want it at 201 ms. you're welcome to make your own program and exercise your personal taste.
- This prgram Registers Event Handlers for: "G-Sensor", "Incoming Call", "Phone Call in Progress", "Stylus in/out", and Power Manager events. DO NOT move it to Internal Storage, you have been warned.
Requirements:
.NET 3.5 + HTC device with GSensor & Light Sensor.
Compatibility:
Specifically designed for Diamond & Raphael, but will work fine on HD/Rhodium/Topaz/HD2 etc...
Bugs/Limitations:
Knock yourself out...
Release Notes:
- This is the LAST revision/release/app I make; programming too much work
- Download & Install the CAB
- Run the XSense from your Start Menu\Programs, customize to taste, and enjoy!
Change Log:
- Brand New UI: VERY "finger friendly" this should be especially useful if you have a WVGA Device
i.e. HD/Rhodium/Topaz/HD2 etc...
- Revised entire code for existing & potential bugs, and Performance
tweaked to death.
- Removed various functions (auto speakerphone, car-kit options, etc...). Use "Touch InCall Screen Tweak" for these,
its handles Phone/Speaker brilliantly!
- Shortcut added to Startup for automatic launch after reboot.
- Shortcut with a nice icon added to Start Menu (Credit to VetVito).
- General Tab:
- Navi Button will only light up if the device is in a dark place, i.e. You will
always see where your phone is (before you trash it against the wall).
- Stylus Tab:
- UI elements to select & set sounds for Stylus-in/out events.
Disclaimer:
This program is provided strictly on "as is" basis. It is intended only as a proof-of-concept. Although fully functional, it must NOT be considered for daily use. This software is very likely to compromise the integrity of your data as well as invariabley cause your device to malfunction in any way, shape, or form. Therefore, the developer shall be absolved of all responsibility towards testers and/or their computers & devices. While using this software you agree to be solely liable for all and any damages you do to yourself, your device, or any damn thing you possess and care for!

where and how can one get a copy??

sounds interesting

Hmm.. bummer! I thought this would be popular - further feed my delusions of grandeur! Ok, I'm taking this off-forum.

Of course this is great idea. But if it was born some months ago, it would've been implemented in every Diamond. Nevertheless it is great. I will download and play with it,
best regards

Cool app, will be trying it out shortly.

funkys said:
Of course this is great idea. But if it was born some months ago, it would've been implemented in every Diamond. Nevertheless it is great. I will download and play with it,
best regards
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Well, honestly, I was waiting for someone else to do it! Since the Omnia came out so many cried for its "courtesy mode" or something similar, yet no one took it up... So, I finally got tired of waiting lucky me, eh?
Cheers

So far so good, will do some testing and playing around. Thank you.

It is interesting but most features of your app already exsist in other software.
Courtesy-sense - well my phone does that already, granted it doesn't flash or vibrate but I'm not bothered that it doesn't.
Common-sense - loads of apps allow this to be done. I use Gyrator to achieve the effect and it serves me well.
They only part of your app I find really interesting is the Notifications-Sense, is it possible to make this a standalone app?

Sounds very interesting!!! Anyone detects bugs? Drain battery? Stable?

nice work

When I face down my Diamond, the LED is on, but how long is it going to glow. Till I turn it off? I don't think this is good for the battery.
best regards

xavierdemon said:
It is interesting but most features of your app already exsist in other software.
Courtesy-sense - well my phone does that already, granted it doesn't flash or vibrate but I'm not bothered that it doesn't.
Common-sense - loads of apps allow this to be done. I use Gyrator to achieve the effect and it serves me well.
They only part of your app I find really interesting is the Notifications-Sense, is it possible to make this a standalone app?
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Unless you have your own build of diamond/pro, you do NOT have courtesy-sense in the way I offer it; while face-down the device is switched to and stays on the silent profile; you do NOT hear any sound whatsoever as opposed to the native feature which will silence your ringer on a per-call basis!
While I used and still love Gyrator, I find its features irrelavent to my personal lifestyle - I find portrait view optimal "for me", so using a large program just to do what's "common sense" simply senseless. Utlimately, you are free to use whatever program(s) you please. Since I like integration/simplicity/lightness I will use mine
As for your request for a stand-alone app, I regret to say NO sorry

aoryx said:
nice work
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Thank you mate, I appreciate that

funkys said:
When I face down my Diamond, the LED is on, but how long is it going to glow. Till I turn it off? I don't think this is good for the battery.
best regards
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Till you turn it off, mate. I have been using this for 2 weeks now, I can tell you will notice NO difference in battery life enjoy

Touch HD
This sounds very interesting. Do you think it'll also work on the Touch HD (WM6.5)? This would be just what I've been looking for...
Cheerio

few things...
Courtesy-Sense: it does go silent when i flip it face down, but turning it back face up does not get it out of silent.
I'd really appreciate some way to configure features and possibly even turn some off.
Very good idea though, keep working on it.

dule_011 said:
Courtesy-Sense: it does go silent when i flip it face down, but turning it back face up does not get it out of silent.
I'd really appreciate some way to configure features and possibly even turn some off.
Very good idea though, keep working on it.
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Because the device is suspended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two Notes for everybody:
1. Suspending the device halts the processor, freezes all running threads, except hardware triggered events such incoming call, power manager calls, some keyboard events, and registered "run at time" notifications events. G-Sensor state change does NOT trigger a device power state change event.
2. Causing the device to respond to G-Sensor driver events WHILE the device is suspended will cause extensive strain to the battery since the device will wake up every single time you move it! The workaround is still equally exhausting to the system, which is to set the device's power permanantly ON and then turn the screen on/off based on the G-sensor's state (i.e. face up/down =screen off, everything else = ON".
Conclusion: this is the way Windows Mobile is buit, SO, while your phone is ON put it face-down to switch sound profile to silent and face-up/portrait to set it back to normal sound.
So, I hope this answers y'all to satisfaction...

how about not suspending device then? seems bit pointless having to manually bring device out of "suspend" so that automatic feature kicks in. again, some may agree with me, others might not, so having some way to configure those features would satisfy all.

Low & Delayed Ringing

Thanks for starting the segment. Just bought OMNIA II 8GB in India and the problem is when a call comes it is initially very low and the goes up and this cannot be changed through the usual routes. Also the ring itself starts after 3 rings at the callers end. Any help is appreciated.
BTW, Its WM 6.1. Wm 6.5 is not yet available.

bimboybimboy said:
Thanks for starting the segment. Just bought OMNIA II 8GB in India and the problem is when a call comes it is initially very low and the goes up and this cannot be changed through the usual routes. Also the ring itself starts after 3 rings at the callers end. Any help is appreciated.
BTW, Its WM 6.1. Wm 6.5 is not yet available.
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This is a Samusung WM specialty (or they call it feature). The first 3 secs are always "subdued". It happens with all Samsung WM. Nothing can be done to change it. You just have to learn to get used to it. Look on the bright side, when you're in an office setting, you can usually pickup the call before it gets bursting.

hkwildboy said:
This is a Samusung WM specialty (or they call it feature). The first 3 secs are always "subdued". It happens with all Samsung WM. Nothing can be done to change it. You just have to learn to get used to it. Look on the bright side, when you're in an office setting, you can usually pickup the call before it gets bursting.
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Should have left the choice to the user. Guess, they must have recvd complaints but have successfully resisted all efforts at correcting themselves. Nice surprise in addition to the half assed UI called touchwiz or whatever. Tks anyway

bimboybimboy said:
Should have left the choice to the user. Guess, they must have recvd complaints but have successfully resisted all efforts at correcting themselves. Nice surprise in addition to the half assed UI called touchwiz or whatever. Tks anyway
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Yes, agreed with you that they should leave that as an option for user. About the Touchwiz, well , most Omnia 2 users just dont use that. it's memory hogging and doesnt allow creating shortcuts for many programs.
I would say MAJORITY of Omnia 2 users opt for the Spb Mobile Shell instead.
You should really testdrive it yourself, and you will be delightfully surprised how well it integrates and how much smoother the whole i8000 experience is.

i agree that the ring should have been optional. but personally i like it. it saves me from suddenly jerking in surprise when my phone is on top of a table.
being easily irrated, i like the "soft" warning before it gets loud.

hkwildboy said:
Yes, agreed with you that they should leave that as an option for user. About the Touchwiz, well , most Omnia 2 users just dont use that. it's memory hogging and doesnt allow creating shortcuts for many programs.
I would say MAJORITY of Omnia 2 users opt for the Spb Mobile Shell instead.
You should really testdrive it yourself, and you will be delightfully surprised how well it integrates and how much smoother the whole i8000 experience is.
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I did try the Shell. But what stopped me was the very rudimentary contact program. i have a large database and I absolutely need a t9 search on every field in the contact list which is not there in Shell if I am not mistaken.
Though for some reason Samsung killed the threading of sms, one feature of this touchwiz I find useful though is the search in sms. Guess as a heavy cell user, over the years, I have developed some specific likes & dislikes. Like I absolutely need to see the future appointments on the today screen & launch particular program from today. etc..

mtsingson said:
i agree that the ring should have been optional. but personally i like it. it saves me from suddenly jerking in surprise when my phone is on top of a table.
being easily irrated, i like the "soft" warning before it gets loud.
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Agreed. But its peculiar. It rings softly first. Then it just vibrates (if u hv vibrate on) but no rings (??? crazy or what ???), then the ringing becomes louder. The whole process takes 5-7 seconds. Now, if u miss these (u can if u r busy or a little distance away from the cell), by the time u hear the louder ring and go to pick up the phone, the caller may go away. It is happening with me.

a solution
to prevent the delay in getting the initial ring, I advice to stop the lock screen from setting/ display and light/ lock screen
then make the device wake up with the lock button only
setting/general settings/ button/wake up/ lock button only
regarding the initial low ring tone, still no solution

bimboybimboy said:
Agreed. But its peculiar. It rings softly first. Then it just vibrates (if u hv vibrate on) but no rings (??? crazy or what ???), then the ringing becomes louder. The whole process takes 5-7 seconds. Now, if u miss these (u can if u r busy or a little distance away from the cell), by the time u hear the louder ring and go to pick up the phone, the caller may go away. It is happening with me.
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Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.

2ksilverbullet said:
Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.
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its set at vibrate and ring

msaeed11 said:
to prevent the delay in getting the initial ring, I advice to stop the lock screen from setting/ display and light/ lock screen
then make the device wake up with the lock button only
setting/general settings/ button/wake up/ lock button only
regarding the initial low ring tone, still no solution
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don't think this has anything to do with locks. Any way mine is set as u hv said. Considering yr suggestion & the another here and that my settings are exactly as u both hv suggested, cud it b that samsung has made such a mess that certain issues are machine specific ? Wudn't that b just great!!!

2ksilverbullet said:
Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.
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Its already set that way. I think I may have overeacted with initial missing 3 rings. I think I missed it due to some network issue. Thanks anyway.

No fix for 3sec low ring till now..
I just increased the first 3 seconds of my ringtone.. good workaround..

Aafi-rocks said:
No fix for 3sec low ring till now..
I just increased the first 3 seconds of my ringtone.. good workaround..
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Which part have you worked around?

bimboybimboy said:
Which part have you worked around?
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He means you can use "Audio Editor" program on PC to increase the volumn of the first 3 seconds of your ringone.

I actually do have (on Verizon i920) a delay of 3-4 rings (at the callers end) before my phone rings or vibrates. I think I have a bad phone as no one else seems to have this issue.

laruku said:
He means you can use "Audio Editor" program on PC to increase the volumn of the first 3 seconds of your ringone.
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Correct..! or you may also use Mixx Mobile a software to create ringtones on your WinMo phone..

[Q] Screen Sensitivity & snooze control

1. I find the screen to be far too sensitive. A brush of the thumb is enough to place an unintentional telephone call. I installed Auto Config sensitivity to the lowest level and finger pressure to the highest, but it really hasn't helped. Perhaps the solution is to deactivate the soft "phone" button directly under the Home icon. Just to gripe about it, it seems a dumb place to put that button. Is there some way of turning that button off? Or in fact, increasing the pressure require to activate the screen?
2. The reminders are under the control of the pre-loaded and pathetic calendar program. As a result "snoozes" are limited to 5 minutes. I bought and installed Thumbcal -- a worthy program -- but there doesn't seem to be anyway of making it the default calender. Maybe I overlooked a switch. Can anyone help?
Thanks

1. use AE Button plus to unbind the send end keys. This will solve your problem.
I also use vangrieg in call lock so that you only slide to answer. Follow the steps in the following link regarding important note to HD2 users. HD Mini users will need to follow that too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556801

Thank you. The case of the accidental phone call has been solved. It took me a while to figure out but it was $8 well spent.

humphster said:
Thank you. The case of the accidental phone call has been solved. It took me a while to figure out but it was $8 well spent.
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for snoozes, i use BsB Tweeks to enable x min/hour/day notifications. can snooze up to a day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

Once again my thanks. You are obviously well versed in customizing these phones.

humphster said:
Once again my thanks. You are obviously well versed in customizing these phones.
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learnt a lot from the community @ XDA. Just sharing my 2 cents...

In any case, thank you.

humphster said:
2. The reminders are under the control of the pre-loaded and pathetic calendar program. As a result "snoozes" are limited to 5 minutes. I bought and installed Thumbcal -- a worthy program -- but there doesn't seem to be anyway of making it the default calender. Maybe I overlooked a switch. Can anyone help?
Thanks
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You are correct. HTC calendar is really pathetic. It's included in the phone only for eye-candy purposes. No real value or function to it.
ThumbCal is a really great choice of a replacement calendar app. But it won't work from the calendar link of the homescreen. The homescreen calendar link is a real weirdo. It links to 3rd-party calendar app only when you have no appointment for today. So forget about that. (Actually, almost all of the whole homescreen graphics and links are useless. An unnecessary waste of screen real estate).
What you can do is to position ThumbCal icon somewhere up in the first few icons of WinMo menu. That way, you can access ThumbCal from anywhere. Just press the "Windows" button (center button on the lower edge of the phone), and you get to ThumbCal app anytime anywhere.
Another way is to use BSB Tweaks to reconfigure the left softkey of Sense UI, and change it from the default "Phone" to "ThumbCal".
Now, for the "snooze" problem. Again, use BSB Tweaks to modify windows notifications. Enable dismiss X time in notifications. This will revert the notifications back to the normal WinMo style. With a menu choice of snooze duration to choose from.

Thanks for the suggestion. I added thumbcal on the quicklinks, but your suggestion is just as efficient. The BsB tweal was already suggested. I implemented and works just fine.
Both are good ideas.