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Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
forcedalias said:
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
Moaske said:
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
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...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
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Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
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Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
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[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hi all
Have been looking around but have not seen any talking about "AE Button Plus".
I really must recommend you to tjeck it.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
From site:
"This utility extends functionality of hardware keys on Windows Mobile devices. It allows you to:
intercept almost any standard button: application buttons, WM5 SoftKeys, Volume slider, Action and even Red/Green phone buttons
distinguish up to 4 different keypress events on each button grabbed (single, double, triple and "long" keypresses).
remap each of the keypress events to "virtual" application button or assign them directly to one of the wide set of built-in actions.
As a result you may "convert" volume slider to up/down arrows, assign several essential application buttons to these "SoftKey" buttons and even assign your favorit alternative dialer to red/green phone buttons."
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In other words: It lets me have FOUR different actions on each button on the phone. For me that means I can control all my favourite apps from the two SoftKeys - and even turn on/off WIFI in WM6.
It is by my best controle gadget program for my PPC...and I think others should take a test, because you will see that it will rethink your way of control...
Hi
It has come up a few times (possibly not recently) here are a few of the XDA-Developer references to AE Button Plus:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=A...rum.xda-developers.com&as_rights=&safe=images
Mike
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Hi
It has come up a few times (possibly not recently) here are a few of the XDA-Developer references to AE Button Plus:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=A...rum.xda-developers.com&as_rights=&safe=images
Mike
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OK - thx senor. Tried to search but nothing came up
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OK - thx senor. Tried to search but nothing came up
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Not your fault. The search facility on the site does not accept words with less than three letters - so AE is not found.
However I have added a sticky post above so you can google search. I also agree AE Button is a very useful application.
Cheers
Mike
see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
stmcgill said:
Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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I was also wondering about that.
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I was also wondering about that.
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You most certainly can!
I use AE Button Plus. It is an amazing little app that lets you do just about anything with all the hardware buttons on the phone. It also lets you assign more than one behaviour to the same button- one for press, one for double press and so on... Check it out here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hope this helps!
Nice one- thanks for that
Yes, excellent app !
I've been able to link to npop by adding the "mail" button but it still launched the built-in mail program, anyone figure out if it can be "inhibited" from AE ?
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can you also make the wheel scroll? or it that not possible with this app?
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Wheel? What wheel? I only wish the Touch Dual had a wheel
Very impressed with Touch Dual so far. I agree - the wheel would have made it an amazing device...
Maybe for the Touch Dual II?
I can't get it to scroll when you keep the button pressed (volume up button for scroll up volume down button for scroll down)
I've tried loads of different combinations to get it to scroll like the dpad.
If anyones got it working can you post how please?
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see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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the missing buttons refer to the volume buttons. just press and hold to activate them.
I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy
Okay, I can see that I can assign long-press Send and End keys, but I want to assign a function to the Back key (short press) - can it be done?
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
I'm not sure that Volume slider has been mappable on any of these devices. Previously I used SPB PocketPlus to map buttons, but on the HD the poplists in the setup don't work so I can't try it...
I am currently using AEBPlus to assign the buttons.I was able to map volume up, volume down and ok buttons to various functions.But unfortunately I am unable to map the HOme button.Can anyone let me know how to assign some functions for HOme button using AEBPlus please?
regards
vijay
Brilliant! AE Button Plus works perfectly, OK=Back. I love this site...
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
truthseekers said:
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
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You don't need to ask the same question wherever you go and also create a thread for that!
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i see what you mean. I just figured it might not get read if here at the end of an older thread... hehe you mods notice everything ;-)
Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Yes you can.
panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Beauty!
Then I have no more issue with the lack of D-pad now.
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Yes you can.
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Could you explain how to configure to apply to on off button.
Aside from that, does someone know how to get "long" working?
It tried to give the "Back arrow" additional functions.
1,2,3 times work fine, but long does not.
Also what is the default action of "Back arrow"
I do not find it on the list? Which number
So I could configure 1 times with default action
and 2 and 3 with something else.
Home button on AE plus
Has anyone found the home button "name" in AU Button plus yet?
This thread mentioned the name for the "back"-button is "OK" in AE button plus and that does work. (except foor the long press option, that I could not get to work, but double tap works fine)
pzucchel said:
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
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pzucchel, I'm with you! I've realised that I actually used the scroll wheel on the Trinity much more than the D-pad, so AE buttons is a godsend!
I've got volume up/down to become arrow up/down, but how about the Trinity press-to-select on the scroll wheel? I can't get the long press on the vol buttons to work otherwise it'd be perfect...
What version of AEBPlus are you using?
I installed AEBPlus 2.6.3 to enable turning the screen while pressing the volume up button.
This version is a 14 day trail version, there is however a freeware 1.0.1 version but that one is not officialy supporting the Blackstone.
Which version are you using? I find $14 a lot for changing the behaviour of one key...
AEButton will NOT stop working after 14 days, and all the functions you really want will still be there
What is the difference between trial and registered version?
Two things only:
1. Splash screen appears during device starting up.
2. "Action list" is blocked in trial mode
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http://ae.inc.ru/aebplusfaq.php
Good to know! Didn't see that when reading the website...
Anyway - is there an easy trick to assign the "volume up" pressed for >1 sec to rotating the screen to landscape (270 deg) and portrait?
/me is thinking of a registry tweak...
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
tomasn said:
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
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There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
Yerry said:
There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
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OK, I can see that you want to push your own solution but as far as I can see it does not support the Home button either. Also it supports a lot fewer actions than AE Button Plus does.
Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
/Thanks
emwdava said:
Hi. I'd like to know if there's a way to make more HW buttons visible in settings/buttons so that they can be mapped?
I've looked at the registry but that didn't make me any wiser..
I don't want to use X1 button mapper, I just want more buttons to choose from.
Now there's only Left Key and Right Key available.
/Thanks
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hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers
human75 said:
hi there.there is a program that calls aebutton plus.try that very use full.cheers
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Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.
emwdava said:
Yes, I've already tried AE B+ but I didn't like the lag it produces from pressing a button until the action is performed.
I found out today that with SPB pocket Plus you can add buttons to the stock WM6.1 buttonmapper and you can also assign a press+hold function to every button.
I also tried the freeware HButton with which you can assign 5 actions to every HW button in the stock buttonmapper list.
In combination with SPB Pocket Plus this is a must have for me.
No lag at all!!!
/thanks for the tip anyway.
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I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?
JKingDev said:
I tried using SPB PP for this purpose and it didnt give me any new buttons. What extra buttons does it let you map?
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I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.
emwdava said:
I've so far only tried with the ok button.
After installing spb pp I got an option in the button window that says "Add new button".
Try it and follow the instructions.
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Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.
JKingDev said:
Eh. Doesnt work with any other. I shall continue with X1BC. I like the fact that HButton vibrates on press and hold. I should add this to X1BC.
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Hm, I'm gonna try this...
Maybe I got (un)Lucky with the first try.