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8525 and TomTom6

I've purchased and installed the TomTom 6 navigation software with some specific maps but am having a problem with getting a bluetooth GPS device to properly partner up with the device and software. When I ask the 8525 to establish a 'new partnership' it finds the BT-GPS-359 GPS receiver, but when I go to 'partnership settings' I only get a selection of 'Serial Port' for 'services to use from this device'. I would assume here that I would get the TomTom software option to choose. When I open the TomTom software and ask to configure the GPS receiver it isn't properly being located. Is there some specific settings I need to use with Com Ports? Any suggestions to get these devices working together would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Create an outgoing com port assigned port 2 and try to find it using TT6. That is what I did with my BT-338

aadadams said:
Create an outgoing com port assigned port 2 and try to find it using TT6. That is what I did with my BT-338
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Thanks...that did the trick. So now when I want to use the Navigation software do I just turn on the GPS receiver and start the TomTom software and it will automatically 'partner' for navigation purposes?

Yep, that is it.

You can even minimize it and place a call... it doesn't miss a beat! I'm definitely impressed with it!

...then you can maximize it using the red icon in bottom tray and continue the call.

I have to admit that after getting the partnership working and using the 8525 as a GPS navigator...I am really impressed. I've never used GPS navigation so don't have much to compare it to, but with the 8525 displayed in a mount on the dash and the tomtom software working I have found it very accurate today in getting me to my destination (and gee....I even have multiple choices for the voice I want to hear!!)

TomTom 6 makes my TyTn freeze sometimes; any idea why..?

Prerna said:
TomTom 6 makes my TyTn freeze sometimes; any idea why..?
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ROM v1.35 will freeze randomly for lots of different apps, usually when they are first loaded. It looks like AKU 3.3 has fixed this problem, so hopefully we won't be seeing these random freezes any more.
John

Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?

Anyone?
Bump!

TheBrit said:
Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?
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Yes.......

vijovame said:
Yes.......
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Thanks - now I know which car cradle to get.

I just wish I could find a way to mute driving directions for places I go every day and just get a "CONGESTION AHEAD" from TT Traffic.

Hi there,
How do you get out of full screen mode and see wm5 status bar? I am stuck in full screen.
Help?
Thanks
Richardracer

richardracer said:
Hi there,
How do you get out of full screen mode and see wm5 status bar? I am stuck in full screen.
Help?
Thanks
Richardracer
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hit the end call button ( at least on my TYTN )

TheBrit said:
Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?
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Yes but the display won't go into landscape (side ways) it'll stay in the normal display but as soon as you press a key on the keyboard the TT6 on screen keyboard will pop up which is big enough to use your fingers.

Thanks
Hi rgreenpc,
Mnay thanks, that seems to do the trick.
Richrdracer

can somebody compare the speed difference between tt6 and tt5.21.
my tt5.21 need sooo long to start up (45 sec!!). Is tt6 quicker?
Someone found a trick to use the old tt5 maps?

As indicated in other posts on this site, I found that TT6 slows up and sometimes freezes when Points of Interest (POIs) are used. In the UK we have lots of speed cameras and setting these on certainly causes TT6 to freeze on my MDA Vario II (HTC TyTn). After turning off all POIs I just completed a trip with no freezes and the display was far smoother - with the POIs on it was jerking and lagged behind current position.
I have the Holux GPSSlim 240 BT receiver and found it impossible to get it to work reliably with TT6 unless I stopped WM5 from managing the GPS receiver. After unticking "Manage GPS automatically ..." all works well with TT6 and this receiver. Interestingly I cannot get it to work with Google Map (for PPC) without having WM5 manage the GPS receiver!
On my device TT6 start-up performance (without any route set) is:
- Display of normal route screen - 8-15 secs
- BT then turns on within - 20 secs
- TT6 sees GPS receiver - 25-35 secs
- TT6 displays GPS info - 27-37 secs
(all time elapsed from TT6 start) Before I removed the tick for WM5 control of GPS data it took up to 5 mins for TT6 to see the GPS receiver, and sometimes TT6 never saw the GPS receiver at all - even though it was working and Google map was able to see it every time.
I have not applied the 6.01 upgeade yet - are there any improvements? Have others found this issue with WM5 mangement and is it fixed with the upgrade?
Hope this is of help to some.

gps function?

ok so i just upgraded to the gps rom....
what are some good maps i can install and use with this newfound gps function....
possibly free if not available for trial at the very least...

ok first things first, can someone post the settings i should have under my gps settings and program settings
i'm using googlemaps right now and it went through the initialization phase of gps fine and now its stuck at seeking gps satellites....
how long does it usually take to find satellites?

nvm got it to work......had to stand by the window
SWEET!!!!!
now get this going for the hermes and im in heaven! it will have EVERYTHING!

There's no built-in GPS on a Hermes. Yes, it does share the Trinity's GPS-capable processor and the same software, radio firmware and drivers work on the Hermes, but there's no antenna in the Hermes and no way to connect one.

Internal GPS problem HTC P6500

Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!

Xman556 said:
Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!
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Hi, Xman -- I don't know this software and so probably can't really offer anything helpful. For what it's worth, the GPS seems to work fine on my P6500: both with Google Maps and with GPS-enabled photos on the HTC Camera app. Does your GPS work with those programs?
Sorry about your troubles!
Alan

I didn't try with Google maps because I'm interested in making Igo work .
At list tell me an app which can show me some info about the internal gps such as speed /the com port on which it's installed etc..
Thanks

Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate

I have also noticed the same problem running both IGO-2006 and I-GO 2008 on my 6500,on the other hand i have had no trouble whatsoever running Destinator 7 and Garmin ,i guess it's got something to do with the software and not the PPC itself which i must say has a very good GPS receiver.
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Thanks for the GPS-gate idea.

Xman556 said:
Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate
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Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino

Well I think I rejoiced too early.Today I took a longer trip and wanted to check how my new solution works......after catching speed the gps started disconnecting an reconnecting until I had to turn it off for good.So almost back to square one.....anybody who can help?

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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At input I selected WM GPS and after you hit open.
At output I have Gpsgate direct/virtual com2(all NMEA)/COM2/COM4
But as I said in my previous post...is not quite working.
Also you might check the franson's web site ..thy seem to have a nice support forum...if you find anything please share.

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?

Xman556 said:
You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?
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Hey Xman556,
it is a crack one at the moment untill I can get it to work properly then I'll buy it if not I'll just leave it.
The way I can get it to work is like this I start the iGo8 then I go to settings TMC and dp a search if return as no hardware fined then I go to GPS and put in the com port 4 and the speed 57800 and it work but if I do a soft rest the iGo8 well not work anymore until I change the GPS port in the PDA to a diffrent port like port 8 then the Igo8 well star and I have to do everything I did before go to TMC and so on if I try to go straight to the GPS without going to the TMC the system hang and I have to do a soft rest this is the way I got it working I'm using the version 4.1.506 if the Igo I tried the earlier version and it is the same problem I need a solution better than this.
Thank You
Gigino

As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.

Xman556 said:
As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.
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Hey Xman556,
thank you for you suggestion it does work now it is much more easier after a soft rest.
Thank You
Gigino

I had this problem with I-go at first. When first installed selecting the gps port and or baud rate would lock the phone. Also if you did an auto detect it would also lock the phone. Solution, have gpsdash or google navigator running with the gps enabled (or anything else that works with the internal gps it seems). Without stopping the app start I-go and it will find and use the gps quite nicely.
Once it has done this the first time I never had to run anything else before I-go even after a reset. Tried this several times by fully reseting the 6500 and worked every time.

similar GPS problems with HTC P6500 and iGo
Hi all,
I'm writing from Germany and have similar problems with iGo 2006+ and iGo 8.
(I purchased iGo 8 just yesterday)
My (German) settings:
Settings --> System --> External GPS -->
Tab Program?:
COM4 for internal GPS, no external GPS via Bluetooth (see Attachment)
Tab Access?:
manage GPS automaticly: ON
What are your GPS settings?
- - -
What I have discovered:
- 1st starting iGo 2006+ and iGo8: both applications hang during 'starting'
- With Igo 2006+ I tried: 1st starting the app 'GPS Tuner', then starting iGo
--> It starts and iGo finds GPS on Com4 with maximum baud
(now I don' t have any longer 'GPS Tuner')
- With iGo8 I tried starting the freeware 'VisualGPSce' 1st (until GPS fix), then starting iGo8 --> It starts, I could set COM4, maximum baud...
--> so I think, is is an internal iGo/GPS-problem
- Today I could drive about 10 km with Igo8, then it crashes without any msg
You can see, I have similar probs, did u solve the probs meanwhile?
---
Rainer from Germany

cracked igo works fine on Sedna. from SD or InternalFlash.
I´m using GPSGATE.
Start GPSGATE, best automatically after reboot.
this will start the internal GPS.
Now you have 2 possibilities.
1. use the output port of GPSGATE, maybe Virtual Com1. You can select it in the options from GPSGATE
or
2. use Com4 from internal GPS. once startet from GPSGATE, it works.
you have to edit your sys.txt in folder programs....igo8
[gps]
port="1" or "4"
baud="38400"
it works definitly
Guenni

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After trying all kinds of programs(GPS port spliter,gps gate and gps test) I found that the solution with gpstest is the best.So I decided to perform a hard reset in order to install on my device only the useful software. But after the hard reset the gps would not start no matter what programs I installed. So I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Now the IGO8 works perfect(together with GPSTEST-pls see my earlier posts).

GPS Text script
I too found GPSTest.exe useful because its really small.
Strange that iGo hangs when trying to communicate over the port *unless* you start another program and open up the GPS unit's port.
Sounds a lot like PPC/iGo GPS management issue.
Be that as it may, I created a script with MortScript, and then put this shortcut under my programs in "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" on my PPC (I'm running WM 6.1 if you care).
The following script opens GPSTest.exe, launches iGo, then closes GPSText.exe after iGo shuts down;
iGoLaunch.mscr:
Code:
#OPEN GpsText.exe minimized
Run ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
WaitForActive ("GPS Test", 5000)
Minimize ("GPS Test")
#Run (and wait until iGo closes)
RunWait ("\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe")
#Close GpsText.exe
Kill ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
After creating iGoLaunch.mscr, put this link (use notepad) into "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"
iGo 8 GPS.lnk:
Code:
1#"\Storage Card\iGo8\iGoLaunch.mscr"?\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe, -101
Please note: If you decide to use this script and shortcut, I highly suggest you check the paths/filenames for accuracy.

GPS and WM 6.1 upgrade
Hey guys -- this may well not be relevant to the issues you're dealing with -- I don't use iGo -- but there is a HUGE improvement in GPS reception with the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade. My Sedna used to have a very difficult time getting GPS reception: it often could not find a signal despite repeated attempts. But since the upgrade, it's been locking on quickly and consistently.
Thought I'd pass this on in case it's helpful.
Alan

very simple script
once the GPS is initialized for the first time it will work
I've wrote a script for MortScript. The only code is:
WriteFile( "COM4:",x )
This script only sends something (here x) to COM4.
Then COM4 is used for the first time and will keep on working.
I start this script in autostart.
That's all.
Please regard uppercase and colons when writing "COM4:"
Bye
Guenni

Solution for port splitter
You can use port splitter for your gps. here is the process i went through with my HTC (jade). first i used gps gate and figured out that the internal gps is using com4. since gpsgate is not free and had to stop using it I tried port splitter
simply install port splitter on your pda
under INPUT-> PORT: com4 and Baud: 4800 (you might have to type COM4 yourself)
under OUTPUT-> select com1 on the drop down menu and press ADD
then press Start Splitter
and it should work
if not install gpsgate and figure out what port it is using and than use port splitter.
This should save you some money
Greetings
Macula

[solved] GPS only reporting position, not satelites

Hi, can anyone confirm that the built in gps only reports the current position? I use tomtom 7.450 and on my diamond in the gps configuration page it would indicate satelite number, position (both in the top right circles) and signal strength for each satelite (grey/blue bars at the bottom).
My HD2 with 1.48 does not report any satelite data (at least not to tomtom), but only the position east and north. Can anyone confirm this? And is there a way to get satelite "debug" output as well?
Thanks...
EDIT: Seems to be an issue with that particular version of tomtom only.

hi mcseven,
im using tomtom7.45 as well and im getting the same results. i think you are right in your suspicions. the gps probably only outputs lat (N/S) and long (E/W). not just N and E.
the last time i used a BT gps receiver from Holux and that gave me satellite info + gps data but i felt that the lag from the BT connection was a pain and as such still use the internal gps.
what do you intend to do with the satellite info anyways?

I get the same sometimes with leo but never had the problem with Raphael.

I saw a thread discussing this issue a little while back, but I can't remember the exact cause.
I DO remember though that it is an issue with TomTom, and nothing wrong with the GPS functionality.
For example, if I run TomTom, it will locate my position, but not show an satellite connections. However, if I run CoPilot, that locates my position and shows how many satellites I'm connected to and their signal strength.
Sorry I can't remember what the agreed cause of this was, but it was definitely NOT the GPS in the phone.

hi,
i think its a tom tom thing, because if u get gps position you also get satelite data. i do a quick test with igo, copilot, visualgpsce and gpstuner. the are all showing the number of sat's, there position in the sky and the other stuff.
regards mad.

I use TomTom 7.910 and it works normally...Displays both signal strength and satellite just as before. So it's either a pb with your version of TomTom as others suggested or with your ROM.

Thank you all, I also believe it to be an issue with tomtom 7.450 only. Navigons shows sat. data as expected, and the NMEA output confirms this. So I'll simply upgrade tomtom. Thanks again...

TT7 and GPS problems

Hi there,
I'm terribly newbie with Jade, so sorry........
I have installed TomTom navigator 7 but GPS doesn't work (I cannot fix sats).
Which GPS must I set in TT configuration?
- integrated GPS receiver
- cabled receiver
- other receiver GPS NMES
And what about com port??
thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481671
see in this post

integrated GPS receiver is the one.
When testing, dont expect it to work indoors...

Thank you, that's right for the internal receiver.
Now I've got another problem: I cannot see the sat bar during navigation (I can see the bar but it's empty - no sats locked, even if TT is working right) and I cannot see locked sats in GPS status menu.........
Moreover, when I select a destination if I press "C" letter (only C, with other letters everything is ok) TT stops working and I must reset it.
Can you help me please?
My TT version is 7.450.9028
Thank you

Hi,
try the version 7.915.9196, it works fine on my Jade without problems
bye
Andy

Try Ndrive 9 its ok , and tt Navcore.8.413.1237 its ok to
to test and clean the memory use HTC GPS toll