Haptic/Vibrating Feedback - Touch HD General

Got your HD yet? Loving the vibrating feedback from those virtual button along the bottom? Me to! The question is, how do we enable this feature for other touch screen inputs? It should at the very least be mapped to the two Windows Mobile soft keys right? There is clearly some API for this since Opera it also doing it when you click on a link.
Anyone got any ideas how we can get at it?

yeah i was expecting full screen haptic feedback when i saw the spec sheet few months ago. kinda disapointed to find now that it's only for the capacitive buttons along the bottom.
if samsung omnia can do it why can't the hd?
i'm sure someone in the community will sort something out!

Actually, I noticed that the page buttons on the Touchflow 3D bar also give feedback so that's pretty cool. They don't do it when you slide across the various pages, only when you click to select one so the diffence between the breif press and a press and hold event must be detected also.
I'm sure we will see so more work done with the haptic feedback. I seem to remember that it took just a few days for some ultra bright person (CharlyV was first I think) to revese engineered the API for the G-Sensor so I expect someone will feel like writing a little app to extend the feedback funtions pretty soon.

any news? I am also keen to get haptic feedback on everything.

i use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
really really love it!
start -> settings -> system -> touchresponse settings to customize to your needs......
kudo's for the maker!

Been posted elsewhere but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Is great especially when typing. I've dialed the vibration down so it just tingles as you type.

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Haptic feedback on the G1?

Is the hardware even capable of supporting Haptic-like feedback? It seems possible considering the short vibration you get when tapping and holding a home screen icon. I wonder if this will be incorporated into the virtual keyboard Google promised, or if some crafty developer can beat them to it. Thoughts?
1. I would love it and theres no reason hardware can't support it
2. Our battery would last 1 hour instead of 2 hours
thefoss said:
Is the hardware even capable of supporting Haptic-like feedback? It seems possible considering the short vibration you get when tapping and holding a home screen icon. I wonder if this will be incorporated into the virtual keyboard Google promised, or if some crafty developer can beat them to it. Thoughts?
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yes it does I don't remember the name of the app, buts on the market place and it gives haptic feed back, I believe it was gravity ringer was the name of it....
it gives you haptic feedback all the time, unless I don't understand the term.
For example, if you long press on anything on the home screen, the phone vibrates at you to let you know you've unanchored the item and can now move it freely around the screen.

(25 November 2008) Haptic Feedback 0.3.1 - LG KS20 support (hopefully)!

There are probably similar apps around, but I got bored and made my own!
Currently, there are no options. It's on, or it's off!
Download the cab from here, install it, and then run "Haptic Feedback" from the programs menu.
By default, it installs a shortcut to launch at startup, but if you don't like that, delete "\Windows\Startup\HapticFeedback.Startup.lnk".
If Haptic Feedback is already running, starting the link again will cause it to exit.
Notes:
No external frameworks are required - pure C++
Supports MoDaCo AppToDate
Coming whenever I have enough time to implement it:
Settings - lots!
A settings application
Some features I haven't yet thought about... Suggestions anyone?
Support for keyboard response
I can't be held responsible for any damage or loss caused directly or indirectly via use of this program, etc etc...
Change Log:
0.3.1 LG KS20 Support!
The "CustomLED" option allows for different LEDs to be set as the vibrate (default is 1. KS20 users should set it to 3)
0.3 Sound playback!
VibrateEnabled - enable vibration (1 is yes, 0 is no)
SoundEnabled - enable sound (1 is yes, 0 is no)
Sound - the full path to the sound file (only used if SoundEnabled = 1)
0.2 Settings! Stored under HKCU\Software\l3v5y\Haptic Feedback
HoldVibrate - keep vibration on until the screen is no longer down
HighTime - the time (in milliseconds) the vibration should be sustained
LowTime - the time (in milliseconds) the vibration should be held low
PollingInterval - the time (in milliseconds) between polls of the mouse state
0.1 Initial release
No point in a screenshot, as there is no form!
DISTRIBUTION OF THIS IN ANY FORM MAY RESULT IN VIOLENT DEATH CAUSED BY nir36, OR MYSELF - DON'T DO IT!
Feature Request
I know Heptic feedback is primarily designed to be vibrate response function but my suggestion is, Allow user setting to select both when Heptic feedback or audible feedback on or off for example only if SIP keyboard is enabled or in a specific program.
I really don't like the screen tap sound when used in general for all screen taps under winmo general settings but I would like the ability to have screen taps sound or vibrate feedback or both when I use my keyboard. So the ability to assign sounds or vibration independently of each other would be nice.
Curious G
lol i love this. it's pointless and battery consuming. but i love it
nir36 said:
lol i love this. it's pointless and battery consuming. but i love it
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Why do you think I made it?
It only consumes as much power as getting called constantly, and it's great for annoying people trying to use my phone...
thanks for sharing its cool.
curious george said:
I know Heptic feedback is primarily designed to be vibrate response function but my suggestion is, Allow user setting to select both when Heptic feedback or audible feedback on or off for example only if SIP keyboard is enabled or in a specific program.
I really don't like the screen tap sound when used in general for all screen taps under winmo general settings but I would like the ability to have screen taps sound or vibrate feedback or both when I use my keyboard. So the ability to assign sounds or vibration independently of each other would be nice.
Curious G
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I'll see if I can work out how to do that! It seems a nice idea.
Thanks!
l3v5y said:
Why do you think I made it?
It only consumes as much power as getting called constantly, and it's great for annoying people trying to use my phone...
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dude. i suggest you stop giving your phone to people/losing it.
nir36 said:
dude. i suggest you stop giving your phone to people/losing it.
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Meh...
I wrote it mainly because I find it useful, and partly to test if I can get input from the device - I'm planning on creating a keyboard hook to launch my Dialer when the "call" button is pressed.
ooo! you should also share this with supbro for his iDialer..
that would be magnificant!
i'm off to sleep, 2000 hours of studying tomorrow.
cheers
nir36 said:
ooo! you should also share this with supbro for his iDialer..
that would be magnificant!
i'm off to sleep, 2000 hours of studying tomorrow.
cheers
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If I can get it to work, I will send it to supbro.
any way to lower the intesity of the vibration? its hurting my hand
This app works with ftouchsl, which other apps ive tried dont.
Mike
Mike1002 said:
any way to lower the intesity of the vibration? its hurting my hand
This app works with ftouchsl, which other apps ive tried dont.
Mike
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As of yet, no. Currently, the vibration motor is being controlled in the same way as LEDs, so it's either on or off... I'll look into an alternate method though.
It won't work on my LG-KS20 too. Just like the other pgm - Vibration Feedback.
this is nice little app
thanks for sharing
if u can find some way to make this just work when the on screen keyboard is up that would be awesome
lbhocky19 said:
if u can find some way to make this just work when the on screen keyboard is up that would be awesome
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it doesnt work with the onscreen keyboard.... dam.. that whose the whole reason i wanted this application ...
what device u running
i have a htc touch pro
works with PCM Keyboard
but i just wish it was a less of a vibration. too loud for me.
imagine in class just hearing loud ass vibrations while im texting?
that teaches you to stop texting while you're in class
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As of yet, no. Currently, the vibration motor is being controlled in the same way as LEDs, so it's either on or off... I'll look into an alternate method though.
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I think there is a way. Vibrations in Tweeter are very light, compared to the ones when there is a call or an alarm.
Excellent App, i will watch this development closely as its something id love. For the moment it feels like my Polaris is going to explode when i scroll Sometimes it also misses its "que"
But great work, very impressed.

Idea: Clicking sound when typing on the keyboard or other apps?

I don't know if you guys saw how the Blackberry Storm when you click the keyboard it makes clicking sounds to enable the fact that you clicked each button. I was wondering if something like this is available for our diamond. Never really considered this as a option but after I saw it in use its actually pretty cool.
Thanks
Settings -> Sounds & Notifications -> Enable Screen Taps!
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Settings -> Sounds & Notifications -> Enable Screen Taps!
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Hehe thanks should have kown better been using win mobile for like 3 years. Oooh well thanks.
Except that enabling the screen tap sound is universal for anytime the screen is touched, which is horribly annoying when panning and scrolling. I would love to see an option where the SIPs (including the dialpad) are modified to click (and preferably vibrate) whenever a soft key is pressed, but not for anything else.
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Except that enabling the screen tap sound is universal for anytime the screen is touched, which is horribly annoying when panning and scrolling. I would love to see an option where the SIPs (including the dialpad) are modified to click (and preferably vibrate) whenever a soft key is pressed, but not for anything else.
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Exactly.
Universal clicking is so annoying and useless.
I second this request!
Hi Keyboard always had typing sounds, and I've gotten used to it.
That's the only thing missing from the great HTC keyboards...
Haptic feedback...
Someone here at XDA is already working on something like this. It's in its very early stages, but sounds like it may be what you're looking for.
Take a look here.
Hope this helps.
grahamkdt said:
Someone here at XDA is already working on something like this. It's in its very early stages, but sounds like it may be what you're looking for.
Take a look here.
Hope this helps.
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Looking for audible clicking, not vibration. The same result as "enable screen taps" but with the application control of this guy's vibrate program. That would be ideal.
Some 3rd party keyboards have an option to turn on clicking sounds.
TouchPal definitely does and it's also the best keyboard I've used.
Davey101 said:
Some 3rd party keyboards have an option to turn on clicking sounds.
TouchPal definitely does and it's also the best keyboard I've used.
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Thanks for the tip, but I'm in love with the tiny, stylus-necessary "keyboard" layout on my Diamond.
Surely there is a simple reg hack for this?
ajd6c8 said:
Thanks for the tip, but I'm in love with the tiny, stylus-necessary "keyboard" layout on my Diamond.
Surely there is a simple reg hack for this?
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TouchPal has 3 layouts including full qwerty and it works better than the HTC one, smarter T9, etc.
Otherwise, I'm sure it would be very easy to modify the vibrate software mentioned above so that it makes noise. Worth asking for help from the author.

vibration / haptic pulse on selection

hey guys,
i have a diamond touch and im really enjoying the various roms and customisation available. my question is.... is there a way to enable vibration / pulse on selection of an item on the touch screen?
(similar to the way the Touch HD and Samsung Tocco f480 does).
Many thanks
Andy
Take a look in Develop n Hacking, you will find a haptics tool.
I can't remember the name, sorry... VibrateShell?
I'm using an app called Touch Response on my diamond by snailslug. though i only use it together with the on screen SIP. but there are a few options that you can apply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
yea i use touch response, it's great you can adjust by the ms of how long it vibraters. only thing is, sometimes it will vibrate like violently and longer than the others haha

Keyboard Configuration

I'm trying to understand why during sms or email typing I do a lot of typing errors. I saw that so many times I touch the keys on the on screen keyboard in the right place but I release it in the wrong one. So I can see there is a little movement of my hand and thinger that causes keyboard misunderstanding.
I tried a lot of tweaks but what I wantto try now is the possibility to configure the oem htc on screen keyboard to accept keys on press and not on release.
Can anyone help me finding registry tweaks about?
thank you!
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I'm trying to understand why during sms or email typing I do a lot of typing errors. I saw that so many times I touch the keys on the on screen keyboard in the right place but I release it in the wrong one. So I can see there is a little movement of my hand and thinger that causes keyboard misunderstanding.
I tried a lot of tweaks but what I wantto try now is the possibility to configure the oem htc on screen keyboard to accept keys on press and not on release.
Can anyone help me finding registry tweaks about?
thank you!
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It needs to accept on release because a long press has a different effect to a short one.
I know what you're saying, and I sympathize. I had problems at first, but I simply changed my typing style to suit the screen and now I'm very fast, and only make as many mistakes as I would on a real keyboard. Just get used to hitting the keyboard and lifting your finger, without moving it on the screen. It works - you just have to get used to it. It doesn't take long
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It needs to accept on release because a long press has a different effect to a short one.
I know what you're saying, and I sympathize. I had problems at first, but I simply changed my typing style to suit the screen and now I'm very fast, and only make as many mistakes as I would on a real keyboard. Just get used to hitting the keyboard and lifting your finger, without moving it on the screen. It works - you just have to get used to it. It doesn't take long
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Yes I know this. But testing can be a good starting point.
I can also imagine that a "new keyboard" can accept keyboard on press and change pressed keys if I don't move my finger for a long time. If I don't remember bad I already saw a keyboard that works in this way... if I press a key it writes the key, then if I don't remove the finger from that key it changes the pressed key with the additional one.
So, there is not any way to change working way?
I think the thing is that if you can't get used to the HTC keyboard, just use another SIP if a good one is available, or wait until someone makes a new one...
The one in opera mini beta 5 seems good, would be great ig they could make a similar one system-wide...
kilrah said:
I think the thing is that if you can't get used to the HTC keyboard, just use another SIP if a good one is available, or wait until someone makes a new one...
The one in opera mini beta 5 seems good, would be great ig they could make a similar one system-wide...
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Yeah, there's plenty of alternative ones out there. Fingerkeyboard, for example, seems very popular.
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Yeah, there's plenty of alternative ones out there. Fingerkeyboard, for example, seems very popular.
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I used FingerKeyboard a lot with Blackstone but with Leo I don't like it so much... I prefer to have bigger keys and HTC sense integration with the original keyboard.
The problem to change keyboard is also this one.. you can loose some integrations.
So all of you can confirm me that original keyboard is not modificable? So there are not registry configurations?
is there any help for my request?
Hit instead of release !
I do agree with you. I have tried the keyboard on the iPhone a lot, and I don't think anyone would disagree that it is much better. And the only difference is like you say that the iPhone registers where you hit the screen, instead of where you release the screen. Fast typing means you have to move your finger sideways all the time. Can it be so hard to make a keyboard that registers hit instead of release ?
Have tried several keyboards to the LEO, including Fingerkeyoard, but they all seem to have the same problem when used on the LEO.
It's a shame since the rest of the phone is genious. Let us hope someone who is capable of modifying or rewrite a complete keyboard take the challenge.
I'm asking this just from when I was using Blackstone but it seems that developers don't like to make keyboard sensible to press and not release.
Please help us!

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