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Group for buying HTC HD2 in low proce

Hi All,
I am interesting to buy the HTC HD2, now I was looking over the internrt and I found some realy cheap deals, but I am not sure if those devices are a real HTC HD2, some of them I know for fact that they are from Chaina...
Well what I have in mind that we can organizew as a group and get a good deal with one of the HTC providers.
What I suggest that we will buy devices as one group.
What I think is the best way that every one will pay by credit\paypa\google to the provider, but we will pay as a group only after we will close a good deal, the provider will create an invoice for payment, every one will pay for his own device with his own shipment address.
I didn't start to bargen with providers\sellers, and I will start if we will enotgh people.
If you are a seller\provider and want to give us a good deal please add your comments.
If you know a seller - the same.
Now if you want to participate, please add your comment, in the begining we will see how many people want to buy then it will be easier to find a deal, for example, if we will buy 10 devices the price will be arround 600$ and if we will buy 20 devices the proce will be ~400$ per device.
Guys I am talking about devices with warnties from HTC not a fake one that you can find in 200$...
Sorry for my english....

seems nice idea

It does seem like an excellent idea in principle, but in practice any supplier providing group purchasing would want to deal with one purchaser only.
That would then mean one individual in the group having to bear the cost and the risk of anyone dropping out of the group after committing to purchase. I can't see too many people volunteering for that.
I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it would require a high degree of co-operation and trust.

Does that even work?

Gustopher said:
It does seem like an excellent idea in principle, but in practice any supplier providing group purchasing would want to deal with one purchaser only.
That would then mean one individual in the group having to bear the cost and the risk of anyone dropping out of the group after committing to purchase. I can't see too many people volunteering for that.
I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it would require a high degree of co-operation and trust.
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I have done this before, if we will organize 20-30 people I think that every seller will work with us.
The committing will be done - or let's say this way, the supplier will charge and send the devices only if we will meet the agreement, I guess we can only try.
This is a big community, and I hope that togethre we can arange a good price for unlock devices...

Who is the provider of the phones? Do you know already?
What if the customers live in different countries? How does that work?

Ummm... 20 units for ~$400 each? I think this may be highly optomistic as I'm pretty sure most of the distributors don't get it that low.
If you have a reliable source who can, and is willing to supply that I'll take the risk and buy 20 myself to help get things going!

seems like a good idea. was thinking about the same thing before i got mine.
I was able to bargain my unit for $850 including shipping from 2 sellers on ebay (they were selling it for over $900). then i bought it from one. They might offer better price for group purchase. I also got 10% bing cashback, 4% ebay cashback and 3% mrrebates cashback bringing down my price to $700. fedex is delivering my unit today. let me know if you want me to check with the sellers..
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here4info said:
seems like a good idea. was thinking about the same thing before i got mine.
I was able to bargain my unit for $850 including shipping from 2 sellers on ebay (they were selling it for over $900). then i bought it from one. They might offer better price for group purchase. I also got 10% bing cashback, 4% ebay cashback and 3% mrrebates cashback bringing down my price to $700. fedex is delivering my unit today. let me know if you want me to check with the sellers..
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Please verify with your seller for 10 units, 20 units & 30 units - thanks for your help.
fizic said:
Who is the provider of the phones? Do you know already?
What if the customers live in different countries? How does that work?
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I don't know yet, I will start to work on it this week, I will coontact the follwoing:
http://www.google.com/products?q=htc+hd2&aq=f
As I said in the first post, the seller will send each device to different location, we will pay differently for the shiping according to the location of every one that will buy the device.

it's really a bad ideal.

Hoping, though seems to be quite impossible. Providers or sellers might help if ONLY there is benefit for them which is none.

Hahaha where did you find this offer alibaba.xxx or something similar ? all those companies from china are SCAMMERS please stay away!
BTW. Did they promise any handsets gratis?

sounds like a dream.
i work at a shop where we sell HD2.
i know our price that we pay.
and its far more then 400$.
we didnt order 50... we order 700.
so forget about that idea.

What price do you pay for an unlocked HD2?

It is about $700 on Amazon and the best price being $675. Plus the shipping cost.
Does anyone have better offers?
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Unlocked-..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1270388078&sr=8-1
I am planning to get these phones for a cheaper price and ship it worldwide, so am taking in everyones opinion.

Why not buy the T9193? It's about the same price, as the T8585, PLUS you can get 3G Speeds, on other networks, like AT&T, with it.

Am not buying them for personal use.
Its for selling at a better price than Amazon and other sites

You'd never be able to expect as much as a retail store would. After all with a retail store there is a comeback for warranty etc.
I think your main thing is going to be beating T-Mobile's price, as this is where many US users are getting their's.

I paid $650 CDN.

Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price

ferraripassion said:
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!

I got mine the first week so it was pricey-959.00 plus overnight fedex-on Amazon. Well worth every penny

digitalhater said:
selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!
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Expensive m8

ferraripassion said:
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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Only $50 more from Expansys
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=188312

If anyone wants to buy let me know

ferraripassion said:
If anyone wants to buy let me know
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If anyone wants to buy, take a look at ferraripassions typical business practices here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657751
read THAT before deciding to send this goob any money!

ferraripassion,
If you continue to ignore sending me, either, my unlock code, or a refund, I promise to make, hounding, you, my new "hobby".
You can expect me to, daily, hunt down every post you make and reply, with a link to this thread, to warn others of the folly of wasting money, by sending it to you.
On days you do not post I will look for all unlock related threads, linking to this thread, warning others of your tactics.
The admins may not have a problem with you preying on members here, but I will make, as many members, as possible, aware of your antics.
Choose, for yourself, which way this will go from now on.
Sincerely,
KB

"ferraripassion" finally DID come across for me. It took some "work"... He claims he sent the code last night.. not quite the "2 minutes" that were brandished, but I did receive it, via forum posts, nonetheless, So I wasn't "ripped off."
Just setting the record clear (for ANYONE who actually cares).

From XDA's own marketplace, I got it for £310 (about $470). It was a week old, unlocked, perfect condition, with all accessories/box, and this was end of Feb.

I paid 630€ for mine, came with a 2gb memcard ...

It's only money...
1. t9193 model 1st week it was released... $917.00
2. Overnight / weekend shipping... $56.00
3. Screen shield & protective case custom fitted... $40.00
4. Attracting a crowd of gaukers and showing off the device features at the mall as they fitted my device...
*** PRICELESS! ***

Got mine off of AU.Ebay
$680.00 shipped to Florida
T9193 new sealed
It is sitting at LAX right now until Customs figures out I ain't gonna smoke it!

Tmobile
ebay - $579
ship $39.00 (LA to Calgary)
$618 usd
in customs........

$878.74 total from PersonalDigital for my T9193 back in Jan.

[Q] NegriElectronics updated their warranty...worth it to purchase?

So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile. But as I was browsing their twitter feed for any discounts, I saw that they had updated their warranty (Negricare) plans. I wasn't going to get on originally because I thought $100 down plus a $75 deductible was kinda high, but now that they are cheaper ($59 plus $50 deductible), I wonder if it's worth it now. It still covers accidental damage plus water, manufacturer's defects, etc. I have never broke my phone (though I have dropped it once or twice), but it's always when you think you are safe that crap happens. If anything happened to my delicious Note 3, I would be so depressed.
They just announced these changes today, so I don't know if anyone has had a chance to discuss this yet. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...rgo-major-redesign-in-favor-of-affordability/
https://negrielectronics.com/negricare-protection-plan-more-info

Upfront costs mean nothing if you have claim issues down the road. It's not "Negri" insurance it's offered by a third party under Negri's name. Read the T&C to find out who's behind it and see what their AM Best rating is. Also do a Google search to see what people's claims experience have been with the third party. I've had two devices totaled and received $1, 500 in compensation in a week for both claims from SquareTrade no questions asked. Personally, I'd stick to what I know. Good luck.

BarryH_GEG said:
Upfront costs mean nothing if you have claim issues down the road. It's not "Negri" insurance it's offered by a third party under Negri's name. Read the T&C to find out who's behind it and see what their AM Best rating is. Also do a Google search to see what people's claims experience have been with the third party. I've had two devices totaled and received $1, 500 in compensation in a week for both claims from SquareTrade no questions asked. Personally, I'd stick to what I know. Good luck.
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Thanks for the reply. I will consider Squaretrade as well.

Techngro said:
So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile. But as I was browsing their twitter feed for any discounts, I saw that they had updated their warranty (Negricare) plans. I wasn't going to get on originally because I thought $100 down plus a $75 deductible was kinda high, but now that they are cheaper ($59 plus $50 deductible), I wonder if it's worth it now. It still covers accidental damage plus water, manufacturer's defects, etc. I have never broke my phone (though I have dropped it once or twice), but it's always when you think you are safe that crap happens. If anything happened to my delicious Note 3, I would be so depressed.
They just announced these changes today, so I don't know if anyone has had a chance to discuss this yet. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...rgo-major-redesign-in-favor-of-affordability/
https://negrielectronics.com/negricare-protection-plan-more-info
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Thank you for your interest. We simply offer the plans to provide the means to protect your purchase. We have recently partnered with Mack Warranty to back our NegriCare plans. Mack provides exceptional service throughout the claim, which is the #1 reason we chose them. We were able to negotiate costs with them to keep prices down for our customers. The plans are worth it, even if you don't need to file a claim - it's the 'peace of mind that' is worth the money down.
You're likely to find positive and negative reviews for all warranty/protection plan providers out there. It's best to purchase your plan from a trusted company, and what better company than the one that will sell you your device.
We hope to you enjoyed your shopping experience, and if you have any questions please visit our site. below are some useful links.
FAQ: http://negricare.negrielectronics.com/
About Us: http://negrielectronics.com/about-us
Live Support: http://negrielectronics.com/ (bottom left)

Techngro said:
So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile.
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How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2

After reading reports of how poorly Negri has treated customers who have ordered the T-Mobile version thus far, I would think twice about ordering from them.

Att.Fan1982 said:
How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2
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I was wondering this too. Based on your image, NE is only $18.50 less than TMo. However, if the OP is also including the tax, then yes - NE is a lot cheaper. According to NE's FAQ about taxes collected, they only collect tax for orders that are shipped to the state of Nevada. I am in CA, so this will be a LOT cheaper for me through NE, since CA's tax is so high.
However, I am not jumping on the Note 3 just yet, until the actual true specs of the Nexus 5 are announced.

Yeah tax is the big killer in buying from the carrier. The savings from NE are worth it as long as they ship tomorrow as on their site. If they push the date later (like the AT&T version was to the 10th), I'll probably cancel and just pick it up locally.

Att.Fan1982 said:
How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2
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Yeah, it's not just the tax, it's also the fact that I used a coupon code (NE20OFFCART) and got another $20 off as well as free shipping. So my total came to $668. T-Mobile with tax would probably be about $762. So that's why I said $100 cheaper, give or take.

Techngro said:
Yeah, it's not just the tax, it's also the fact that I used a coupon code (NE20OFFCART) and got another $20 off as well as free shipping. So my total came to $668. T-Mobile with tax would probably be about $762. So that's why I said $100 cheaper, give or take.
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Thx for the coupon code, as I had missed this! =)

Bmerz said:
Thx for the coupon code, as I had missed this! =)
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NP. You can hit the thanks button under my post.

bigmout said:
After reading reports of how poorly Negri has treated customers who have ordered the T-Mobile version thus far, I would think twice about ordering from them.
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What have you heard? All I want is my device to arrive in one peace undamaged. As long as that happens I will give then a good rating.

Techngro said:
What have you heard? All I want is my device to arrive in one peace undamaged. As long as that happens I will give then a good rating.
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Check out the last two pages of the pre-order thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437978&page=39
I was toying with ordering the T-Mobile model from them but don't think I will now.

bigmout said:
Check out the last two pages of the pre-order thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437978&page=39
I was toying with ordering the T-Mobile model from them but don't think I will now.
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Yeah, to be honest with you, i'm kinda on Negri's side with this one. The main post (the one with the chat and email logs) that criticize Negri show that the guy was complaining about them not shipping as early as the 19th of September. Correct me if i'm wrong, but all of the carriers were saying October 1st-4th for availability. Negri had the expected ship date as 10-3, so i'm not sure what the guy was complaining about.
Now, they have changed the ship date to 10-10, but again, i'm not gonna go crazy because of this. I am saving almost $100 dollars after all. And with all the cancelled pre-orders, I might just get it earlier. lol/jk

Is it odd that official news said that Samsung wasn't going to release 16Gb versions, but Negri has them listed?
Also, from the Q&A:
Thank you for contacting Negri Electronics. We greatly appreciate you taking the time to browse our site and take interest in our units. This unit will not support 4G on T-Mobiles network. This unit will only support 2G speeds on T-Mobile. This unit has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800. Feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns. Thank you and have a nice day.
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I think I'm glad I spent the other $90 just to cozy up with Tmo. I like that they have iPhone users (and others) entirely dependent on them for support, hardware included, because I get that, too, not because I need it, but because USB ports, power buttons and other main board & plastic parts just don't last that long.

do we have confirmation that the tmob unit from negri has an unlocked bootloader and will work on att lte?

Techngro said:
Yeah, to be honest with you, i'm kinda on Negri's side with this one. The main post (the one with the chat and email logs) that criticize Negri show that the guy was complaining about them not shipping as early as the 19th of September. Correct me if i'm wrong, but all of the carriers were saying October 1st-4th for availability. Negri had the expected ship date as 10-3, so i'm not sure what the guy was complaining about.
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Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.

Janis said:
Is it odd that official news said that Samsung wasn't going to release 16Gb versions, but Negri has them listed?
Also, from the Q&A:
I think I'm glad I spent the other $90 just to cozy up with Tmo. I like that they have iPhone users (and others) entirely dependent on them for support, hardware included, because I get that, too, not because I need it, but because USB ports, power buttons and other main board & plastic parts just don't last that long.
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Wait What?!?!?!
There's no way that that is correct. It's a branded T-Mobile device (you can see it in the pic of the back cover). In addition, the heading of the listing says "Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (T-Mobile) (Unlocked)". Since it has LTE (T-Mobile) in the heading, I'm pretty sure it is LTE capable.
Also, the version that PCMag reviewed here (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424853,00.asp) was a T-Mobile version, and it was the Snapdragon 800 version of the Note 3. They said that it was using T-Mobile LTE. Negri CSR probably just didn't know what they were talking about or made a simple mistake. There are two versions of this phone after all.

bigmout said:
Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.
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Thank you for your note. We post "estimated" shipping date for this reason. They are estimated and we are not 100% exact on when they will arrive. If you called around to 40 different T-Mobile stores they would have less info than we provide. Our customer service isn't really "lacking" per-say, it's there, and we are doing our best to handle every request. The fact that some customers are angry with us isn't because of our customer service, it's because of the delay of their product. Customers reach out to us in the worst way, demanding a refund, threatening - however, we do all we can to keep the customer calm, respect their reasoning behind the aggression and try to settle them the best we can. Some have even threatened us if we didn't cancel their order - when they were never charged to begin with. It's a tough job, and no one is perfect, but don't give up on Online stores because of that. Give Negri a chance. The T-Mobile Note 3 is delayed, it happens. We don't do this intentionally - there is absolutely no benefit to it. Zero.
Everything we do is above board, honest and transparent. That's the way this company will always operate while it's under my command.
Ryan J. Negri - CEO
Negri Electronics, Inc.

bigmout said:
Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.
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The intention was not to delay his shipment, it was about the resolution. If we could not reach a resolution it would affect his order of course, but the issue at hand is that since a claim was filed with Google, it is handled by an escalated department and not regular NegriCare.
We just hope that all customers understand that it's 100% better to come to us first, than file a claim. The claim form even says to contact us first - but this customer didn't feel that applied to him. Oh well. We deal with things as they come, and with the best possible mindset. We can't please everyone, but we can do our best to try. Sometimes that matters most.
Ryan J. Negri - CEO
Negri Electronics, Inc.

Clove special offer

Clove sent me an email stating that if they get to 600 orders for the Z3 Compact before launch, they'll include a Roxfit case and Sony AN401 car charger free with every order.
If you're still in the market for this and haven't pulled the trigger yet, keep this in mind. Sounds like they have over 400 orders already, but there's only 10 days left!
Edit: Here's a link with more details http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/a...ia-z3-compact/

Do we need some kind of code to "order" is it "automatic" as you say? There's no mention on their site or blog.

According to the email it's automatic, and they will add it to my order if the condition is met.
You can email [email protected] for more info if you'd like.
Edit: Here's a link that was created when I clicked view email in browser. Perhaps you'll be able to see that as well:
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Edit 2: As quickly as I did that, they updated their site. You'll see a general statement if you click on the Z3C, but here's a link to their blog with more details:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/another-special-offer-sony-xperia-z3-compact/

Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.

tilal6991 said:
Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.
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Yes indeed! I'm pretty excited to get the phone alone, but would certainly welcome some free accessories!

Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.

Now Handtec are saying that they're going to offer a guaranteed pre-order bundle. This is the start of a price/extras war I hope http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-compact-16gb-black-1288-5849.html

mickliq said:
... I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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Is there any way to get the green variant though? Seems Carphonewarehouse is the only one that sells it but they don't ship to the U.S. :/

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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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I never get issuer referrals other than with Clove. It's consistent. I spend A LOT online including big-ticket travel etc. Anyway, it worked fine with PayPal, so again, that's what I recommend.

mickliq said:
Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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Yeah, my AMEX was declined, so I used it through PayPal as well. Good tip!

Just posted at RFD: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/clove-uk-z3-compact-d5803-500-usd-550-cdn-free-stuff-1556567/

My guess is that now that Handtec is offering an unspecified accessories bundle with "no strings attached" (e.g. no minimum pre-order qty), Clove is going to have to make good on that even if don't hit the 600 target. We'd never know if they really hit it or not, so it's easy for them to just say they've hit the mark.

Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.

JHadley said:
Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.
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Oh, Clove will definitely hit their mark, either in reality or make believe.
Seriously, does anyone honestly believe that they've sold 'exactly' 400 units as stated in the blog post (not 407, or maybe 386?), or that they will notify us immediately when they hit 600 units?
Their goal is to use the enticement of some free accessories to get the pre-order buyers to do a little advertising leg work for them. Nothing wrong with that so long as we call it what it is, and the accessories would be nice!
Handtec obviously had to ante up, just as they did by beating Clove's price drop by a small margin, and they took the option of making them available to all pre-orders, probably betting that they will receive some orders from people that want the sure thing.

In the Netherlands you get a Sony MDR-ZX750 headset (worth €150) 00 when pre-ordered, not mather where you buy.

Spoke to handtek other day regarding potential delivery date... Although he couldn't divulge.. He did accidently let off that they've sold 300 red z3c already... They must have clocked way over 600 on total.
There website now says expected 22nd September... Yes :thumbup:

Pre-ordered mine now from Clove. (I hope they don't shaft me on the offer)

I've ordered my Z3C through Clove, and would have done regardless of the accessories bundle. They are a customer focused company and deserve as much business as they can get in my opinion.
Rest assured they'll go above and beyond to make sure all pre-orders receive the accessories, even if they don't reach the target (unlikely).

Handtec Vs Clove
So is everyone buying through Clove or Handtec?
I've never purchased a phone online like this before, so please excuse my trepidation. What are the Pros and Cons of purchasing with each company?
Does anyone have any experience with either of these companies? Who would have better customer support for an International (South African) customer like me? Especially if something goes wrong.
Lastly, I imagine both companies are offering similar accessory bundles together with the purchase. Are there any known differences yet?
Thanks guys! Any input is greatly appreciated!

US force users, where did you buy your phone?

Im currently using a nexus 5. My screen is broken pretty badlyand and my headphone jack is failing. I really like the specs of the force/turbo. I'm on ATT so I would need to go force. I'd also like to get the force so I can root. But I'm haveing a hard time finding the phone on the market though. Is there anyone in the US that is using the force? If so where did you end up buying it from? Are you enjoying it?

You can get one from Mexico. I've got mine from UK because I went to EU for holidays. I'm really enjoying it. The best Android phone I ever had and the first one I'm using at is. No bl unlock, no root. Strange feeling
Usually I'm unlcoking and flashing custom rom max few days, max one month after purchase.

Did you order from the Motorola EU online store or did you buy it in person somewhere? I looked at the Mexico Motorola store today but it looks like they will only ship to Mexico. Need Google translator to confirm though.

BrownEye02 said:
Did you order from the Motorola EU online store or did you buy it in person somewhere? I looked at the Mexico Motorola store today but it looks like they will only ship to Mexico. Need Google translator to confirm though.
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I won it on ebay auction. Few shops from UK selling it too. Jaocagomez can help you to get one from Mexico.
I'm still in Europe (Budapest) on business trip and flying back to San Jose on February 6. Maybe you can order here and I can bring to you. Not sure is it good idea

Thanks, but I'd rather purchase it so it ships directly to me. No middle man hasels.
I did confirm Motorolas Mexico site will only ship to Mexico.
Hunting around I feel like the phone has not been released yet. I know its going to be released in India in February but from the news articals I read the phone was released in november, yet most webistes say preorder or coming soon. Did I miss something? Even some ebay listings reflect this. Unless you want to spend 900$+.

BrownEye02 said:
Thanks, but I'd rather purchase it so it ships directly to me. No middle man hasels.
I did confirm Motorolas Mexico site will only ship to Mexico.
Hunting around I feel like the phone has not been released yet. I know its going to be released in India in February but from the news articals I read the phone was released in november, yet most webistes say preorder or coming soon. Did I miss something? Even some ebay listings reflect this. Unless you want to spend 900$+.
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I ordered mine from Clove technologies in the UK

Thanks! I saw them before but didn't see an option to select US by just browsing the site. But I just tried checking out and there it was. They even have it listed for a very reasonable price.

A you wish. I wasn't sure should I offer you help or not, take responsibility, etc.
I saw one on swappa and another one on ebay, both USA sellers but prices was really bad. One from Ebay sold for $810!? Then I've checked sites from the link I posted and contacted them. If you're buying from USA then is without VAT but you're importing it in USA so you have to pay duty, tax and maybe stuck at border to get permission for importing uncertified device.
@BladeRunner could you share details how much you paid all together and did you have any problems at border. Would be really useful info for everyone.

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A you wish. I wasn't sure should I offer you help or not, take responsibility, etc.
I saw one on swappa and another one on ebay, both USA sellers but prices was really bad. One from Ebay sold for $810!? Then I've checked sites from the link I posted and contacted them. If you're buying from USA then is without VAT but you're importing it in USA so you have to pay duty, tax and maybe stuck at border to get permission for importing uncertified device.
@BladeRunner could you share details how much you paid all together and did you have any problems at border. Would be really useful info for everyone.
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I paid ~615 USD. It's been sitting at JFK International since the 21st, but I think that may be because of the Blizzard and a sunday rather than any issues with customs.

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I paid ~615 USD. It's been sitting at JFK International since the 21st, but I think that may be because of the Blizzard and a sunday rather than any issues with customs.
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That's without VAT? Would be awesome if we can order phone from UK without VAT and do not pay anything else. Handtec representative told me opposite.

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That's without VAT? Would be awesome if we can order phone from UK without VAT and do not pay anything else. Handtec representative told me opposite.
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Correct, no VAT for anyone outside of the EU

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Correct, no VAT for anyone outside of the EU
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Yeah but it's hard to believe that you can just import without paying anything. Please keep us up to date.

I want to buy from clove store , please confirm is true if I can buy from UK???? I live in NY thanks

Thanks for looking into this so much guys!
With my gears a turning the past couple of days I think im going to hold off though. Id really like to buy straight from motorola. That way if I have any issues I can just deal with them directly. That and I gain the ability to cusomize the phone if I order through them.
Im being optamistic I know but the phone was listed on Mexico's site on Monday and just noticed it was listed for Brazil today. So you never know.
This is definatly a good thread to keep alive incase others are interested like Makiger.

So I thought I would try and do an "over the phone" order to see if there was anything special they could do. Sadly this was unsuccessful. But the agent I spoke with did say something that may be intreeging to some. It honestly could mean nothign or it could mean real soon. Who knows?
Jessel: Oh, I do apologize for that. As of the moment, this Moto X Force is not yet available on our webiste. What I can suggest is to visit third party vendors and see if they already have Moto X Force available here in the US. We looking forward to this phone to be available soon.
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I think that agent doesn't have a clue what he's talking He's just repeating generic phrase. Turbo 2 is exclusive for Verizon. Do you really think that Moto can offer basically the same device in US and brake exclusive contract with Verizon?
Don't get me wrong, I would like that Moto didn't even make Turbo 2, just Force globally.

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I want to buy from clove store , please confirm is true if I can buy from UK???? I live in NY thanks
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you can buy from the UK, it just takes a while to get it.

A listing just popped up on India Amazon a little early for the rumored release date..
http://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01A8DQSW2?tag=kostprice-21

PSA:
If you do buy from Clove Technology - or any overseas store - and you're paying with PayPal, make sure to change their default currency conversion to use your credit card's exchange rate instead.
Just priced the phone (Jan 29, 2016) as £431.83 shipped to me in the USA. According to XE.com, that's $613.78 USD with a conversion rate of 1 USD = 0.703554 GBP.
PayPal was giving me a rate @ 1 USD = 0.678425045 GBP, which would make the cost $636.52 USD, or an increase of $22.74, which is a full tank of gas for me.

Good Experience With Handtec
I got mine from Handtec UK (Sorry, can't post a link)
It arrived today in Louisiana from FedEx and it only took about 2 days to get here. No problems with customs or VAT whatsoever. All in all, it cost me around $625 (Used PayPal at Checkout), including shipping. Other than the UK wall plug it came with, I'm very satisfied so far.