TV out or not - XPERIA X1 General

Hello ,
i want to know if the xperia have a tv output like the omnia.
if anybody have a x1 can you tell me if there is or not.
thanks

No, it hasn't a TV out.
Though I don't have one, SE already confirmed this.

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sudf said:
Hello ,
i want to know if the xperia have a tv output like the omnia.
if anybody have a x1 can you tell me if there is or not.
thanks
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SlingCatcher will give the Xperia X1 and just all mobile 6.1 device with video capture TV OUT capabilities. By having USB mass storage and a formatted FAT32 micro SD Card on Your Xperia X1 you should be good to go. The SlingCatcher has it's own USB port, it will send the capture video on your Xperia X1 to your living room giant screen HD TV.........!

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SlingCatcher will give the Xperia X1 and just all mobile 6.1 device with video capture TV OUT capabilities. By having USB mass storage and a formatted FAT32 micro SD Card on Your Xperia X1 you should be good to go. The SlingCatcher has it's own USB port, it will send the capture video on your Xperia X1 to your living room giant screen HD TV.........!
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That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?

Nyberg said:
That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?
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Touch HD has a tv-out.

Not according to HTC:s website..

With the SlingCatcher, YES!
Nyberg said:
That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?
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Yes, it will work with the SlinCatcher providing all compontents parts are first installed on your Xperia X1, but you really don't have to worry about TV OUT on the Touch HD, because it comes with TV OUT.

Hi, sorry that I want to refresh this thread, but I still wonder how I could manage to view my movies on a tv, using my xperia although I pretty know that it hasn't a specific tv-out.. I looked now in the internet about the slingcatcher, but this would be nothing for me. First of all, its much to big, I wanna this to be "portable", to watch my movies in hotels, so I won't carry such a big box with me everywhere.. And second, its much to expensive, but I rather say in this point, this isn't important yet. What I imagine is just a program to use the usb-port as a tv-out, just that every information for the screen is showed on the tv. Would something like that be possible? Are there already such programs? I would pay 30 to 50$ for that, but 300$ for a big box to carry everywhere is just to much for me.. And I want just to carry a cable with me, that would be awesome^^ so, have you any ideas? Thanks a lot^^ greez, cad

as far as i know not 100% then xperia dont have usbHost (at least only 2 HTC made devices have that suppport)
and without usbHost a device cant use other usb devices at all
another option would be a bluetooth tvout thingy recall something about there being such devices sounds expensive though

never say no to the tv-out feature!
take a closer look to the x1`s usb connector and you will see, that the
backside is plated, too!
that could be 4 every thing! the hardware looks like htc raphael, excluding wvga screen.
but prozessor and so on is exactly the same. okay, a little bit more of ram. but that`s it.
no stereo speakers, no other cam, no hardware video encoder.
and don`t forget, a hardware fbas connector, for example, isn`t really required, there are some other possibillities to get video out over usb/network/wifi/BT2.0!
don`t forget vnc style tools. and vnc styled hardware dongles (usb/wifi for ex.) in future. nobody knows.

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Xperia X2 ON Hand Video (Great)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEI...x.php?showtopic=11195&feature=player_embedded
Check out the hands on Xperia X2.
I think its a gud interface and faster panels.
Faster Than X1. Its assum.
I am waitng for the X2 rom to be out .....Thr must be someone who can port it for ur X1.....
Ugly...
When people say "Xperia" they will mean the X1, not this soon-to-be-forgotten mierda.
Nice vid really but the guy looks like has a swine flu or smth
anyways ... the phone looks cute. i hope it will get a music equalizer .. im sure sony can do that without a big effort ....
X2 looks 2 times better than X1 for me,
and X1 already looks great.
why is this freakin video not working RIGHT NOW! Grrr!
oTToToTenTanz said:
why is this freakin video not working RIGHT NOW! Grrr!
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dude the video works fine.
Looks nice but not a great deal extra over my x1 the chefs will cook this stuff in anyway, so it's only an improved keyboard and accerlometer.
i still prefer the x1 design better. plus I don't need the 8.1 MP camera, accelerometer, or the bigger screen. but i do like the faster GUI. i just hope it runs just as fast on the x1.
i agree not much of an upgrade to the x1. i too like the looks of the x1 over the x2 and so no need for me to rush out a buy a new phone. am interested in maybe flashing that rom into my x1
Anybody knows the processor speed? Can't seem to find it.
Bikram said:
Anybody knows the processor speed? Can't seem to find it.
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X2 use the same processor than X1 so it is the same speed: 528MHz
They replaced the mini usb port with a micro usb one, making charging it much more inconvenient. Can't use other mini usb chargers with it anymore
Yeah, the micro usb is a bit annoying, no more charging off ps3, or peoples crackberry chargers, or other chargers using the same port, but hopefully the micro usb will become the norm when the phone companies all start using the same connector,
On the whole i think it is a very nice looking phone, just a shame about the processor being the same, but some nice upgrades. I MIGHT get it, if i stay on vodafone, but am so annoyed with their customer service not sure i want to extend the contract.
for those who don't know yet, EU have forced use of micro usb as a standard connection with chargers. http://blogs.zdnet.com/igeneration/?p=1964
Bikram said:
Anybody knows the processor speed? Can't seem to find it.
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It's the same CPU as in X1. Qualcomm 7200A/7201A. As for the equalizer, from early previews, it does not exist in X2 too.

[Q] Video out on 10.1v

Will the 10.1v (Vodafone) version have a video out? I know it does not have any HDMI port. But wil the 30 pin, ipad like, connector support video out?.
No video out option would make me not buying this. I dont care about the thickness or microsd (NAS ftw). Just need to be able to show video's on full HD tv screen badly.
I don't know the answer, but the Galaxy S2 is using a USB MHL port, where you use an adapter in the usb to use as HDMI out. Likely that would be an option for the tabs as well.
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huppelkutje said:
Just need to be able to show video's on full HD tv screen badly.
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Unless you talk about recorded stuff (which will not be in big quantities due to average and unupgradable memory) - good luck with transferring HD video to device.
Knowing how great is usb speed of device of this kind I want SD card slot or DLNA so I do not have to transfer them in the firs place.
BTW. once you start playing from NAS you can put picture on the big screen.
R u sure you want tablet with so many limitations and high price?
galtom said:
Unless you talk about recorded stuff (which will not be in big quantities due to average and upgradable memory) - good luck with transferring HD video to device.
Knowing how great is usb speed of device of this kind I want SD card slot or DLNA so I do not have to transfer them in the firs place.
BTW. once you start playing from NAS you can put picture on the big screen.
R u sure you want tablet with so many limitations and high price?
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I will mostly use it for youtube, and dutch video websites.
But since there's no sign of any video adapters / converters I dont think I will buy it.
Instead i'm looking in to the Asus Transformer now. It's not as pretty, and I dont trust Asus as much as Samsung. But hey, it's cheaper
Can u give me the names of video dutch sites u were reffering to?
TV? Movies? Legal (I hope ).
Any of the stuff in English?
galtom said:
Can u give me the names of video dutch sites u were reffering to?
TV? Movies? Legal (I hope ).
Any of the stuff in English?
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Ofcourse, I was reffering to dumpert . nl. Wich is a video site were all kinds of funny vids are dropped.
And gamekings . nl wich is the site of dutch game reviewers.
When I have friends over I want to have the opportunity to show them vids using my tv. The 10.1" screen is not big enough for 5 people
Are there any video sites in nl like HULU?
galtom said:
Are there any video sites in nl like HULU?
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Not really. Tho most TV channels have there own site where you can watch tv shows you've missed.
But they dont have those fancy apps, and most of the time the quality is not even near perfect.
uitzendinggemist . nl for an example.
huppelkutje said:
Will the 10.1v (Vodafone) version have a video out? I know it does not have any HDMI port. But wil the 30 pin, ipad like, connector support video out?.
No video out option would make me not buying this. I dont care about the thickness or microsd (NAS ftw). Just need to be able to show video's on full HD tv screen badly.
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I have seen HDMI mentioned on Vodafone Australia site. Ill see if I can find it once I'm back on my PC.
Also, I had the 7" Galaxy Tab which has the same connector and did HDMI out via the dock. I'm almost certain the 10.1 will do the same.
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BREAKING! KTv - Kovsky TV OUT + KGO - Kovsky USB Host

Feel desperate that your XPERIA X1 don't have TV-Out?
To make your X1 act as USB host, it will need a hardware modification and some patches. Coming soon.
Don't mind buy me a glass of beer?
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what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
Erikazz said:
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
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It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
Mr.D - S said:
what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
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Believe me it will not be enough, I have to change a different USB Port and a little panel modification. Huh? Finally it's working but very slow.
kew1701 said:
It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
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Absolutely correct. I try Nokia TV Out Cable,
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
nurps said:
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
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Our msm7200A/7201A support TV-Out, maybe HTC (that build our kovsky aka xperia x1) didn't want to give SE an advantage against his phone and did not connected 35mm to video out
We will need soldering? I love soldering
Ow what are you doin' so it can work, Big Bang Holic?
How could you do that??? Tell us please....hehehe...
any news?
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
Erikazz said:
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
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Yeah, the OP hasn't been here for over 2 weeks now.
And what exactly would be the purpose of TV out? The Movies that can be played smoothly on an Xperia X1 are of far to low quality to watch them on a tv screen. And for everything else I don't see the point.

Finally Solution to HDMI port (CES 12)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
-engadget
So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Hogwarts said:
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
Hogwarts said:
I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
Logseman said:
check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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bubblegumballoon said:
Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
HearthC0re said:
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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[Q] output

being a total newbie to tablets i am looking to finally delve in with a nexus 10, it looks a amazing machine, and everything i am looking for, well except for one item.
i regularly use my laptop to give presentations, and need to connect to a projector via vga.
Colleagues use the iPad, and it is seamless, but personally i prefer the android route.
From all my research i have come to the conclusion that this is not feasible on the nexus 10?
cant beleive such a high ens spec machine cannot support it.
Please any one shed some light.
Thanks
kScot
VGA is low spec...
Get a HDMI to vga adapter.
Via my HTC Rezound
Adapters are cheap stuff. You will need two, though: micro-HDMI to HDMI, and from there, HDMI to VGA.
Thanks,
I assume then it just mirrors the screen?
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kiltedscot said:
Thanks,
I assume then it just mirrors the screen?
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It should, yes.
well, technically, it doesn't "just" mirror the screen, it should also output sound. still, i wonder, why you put "just mirror the screen" in your post, what more do you expect from a video out? cookies?
Chef_Tony said:
well, technically, it doesn't "just" mirror the screen, it should also output sound. still, i wonder, why you put "just mirror the screen" in your post, what more do you expect from a video out? cookies?
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It won't do audio through vga.
Kookas said:
Adapters are cheap stuff. You will need two, though: micro-HDMI to HDMI, and from there, HDMI to VGA.
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http://dx.com/p/hdmi-male-to-vga-male-converter-adapter-w-3-5mm-audio-jack-white-143070?item=2
Kapow. Who knew these existed.
Whether the Nexus puts out enough juice over HDMI to power it though, who can say without trying it.
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need to connect to a projector via vga.
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I feel for you man! At work we have to put up with the worst equipment paid for with ginormous amounts of money.
At my work, the technical coordinator bought a Smartboard, which is a giant touchscreen with a few software extras. It is about a 70" inch screen and has been introduced as the more expensive top model. Naturally, I brought some equipment to take it through a test drive - an hdmi adapter for my Galaxy S3 and some 1080p trailers.
Then came realisation - not only do they connect it via VGA to the presentation pc, it only supports 1366 * 768 max resolution (the S3 would happily output 1080p if supported). Piece Of Crap Deluxe. At least they extended a HDMI cable to where the PC stands, but it doesn't have a suitable graphics adapter. Will still look crappy anway when they eventually upgrade that one. :crying:

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