hide bottom/softkey bar when sip active?? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

ive been trying to figure out how to do this for a loooong time. i use pcm keyboard with an iphone skin and its HUGE. it plus the bottom bar take up more than half the screen. plus its easier to type/know where the letters are if the keyboard is all the way on the bottom. i use a hardware key to toggle the sip so i don't need the bottom bar to disable the sip. anybody know if its physically possible to hide the bottom bar when the sip is active (or make the sip cover the bottom bar)???
Edit (11/21/2008):
if anyone is interested in this i might have some info you might find useful:
when i use the attached .tsk file, the behaviour of my tob and bottom bars becomes completely unpredictable. basically i end up with a combination one of the following combinations:
-normal topbar
-no topbar
-"transparent" topbar (so that i see the top few pixels of my spb mobile shell theme)
and..
-normal bottom bar
-no bottom bar
-bottom bar on which the keyboard overlays (when activated) << this is the original desired effect!
see the attached images for examples
i can't just keep this theme because behaviour is unpredictable and sometimes causes freezing. Also, choosing a different theme returns the bars to normal behaviour.
other info: i have t-mobile wing and use an open touch v6 rom, spb mobile shell w/ a greatbal diamond theme, and s2u2.

That's my problem too.
Support.

Never heard on anything that will do this. But it's a very good idea.

vijay555 made an tool called today toggle that did that on the today screen (I don't know if it hid the softkeys when the today screen did not have focus). It was originally written for WM2003. I have not seen much about it in a long time. Try checking his website http://www.vijay555.com

i did read alot about VJ's todaytoggle but i assumed and other people confirmed that it only works on the today screen. i guess ill play around with it when i get a chance and report back here

kewlmanbsa said:
i did read alot about VJ's todaytoggle but i assumed and other people confirmed that it only works on the today screen. i guess ill play around with it when i get a chance and report back here
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VJToggle only hides on today screen. I wish someone can come up with a way of hiding these things other than today screen!

thanx for the replies
yea VJ's tool only works on the today screen. i wouldve thought that someone would have already made this possible but it seems very few ppl have even thought about it. im sure one of the developers here can make this happen!!

bummmmpppppp
(am i right in thinking that thats wat u say when u want ur thread to be "bumped up" so more ppl can see it??)

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Fun with Scrollbars

Okay - I know how to change the width of scroll bars but what I am wondering is if there is a way to control where the start or end. Basically, I like to display my calender on my screen and I prefer the Calender app to the Today Agenda plugin included in the Faria ROM. When I get lots of appointments it puts scroll bar on the front screen.
Problem is that these start below the date line and block off part of the screen that I want to see. As you can see from the attached screen shot, the right hand side of the PhoneAlarm control panel is not visible, so I cannot see signal strength. I know I can see it at the top, but let's just say I am anal like that
What I wondering is if there is a way to force the scroll bars to start below the speed dial plug-in?
I don't think so. But if you use a different plugin for your calendar, then some of those can have a fixed size and their own scroll bar. I use Pocket Breeze and have mine set up just for that reason. PB has a scrollbar but the whole screen does not.
BTW: What is the tool bar right under your Date plugin???
BTW: What is the tool bar right under your Date plugin???
it's phonealarm,
i second 'the change the today agenda plugin height'
and also try out vijay's toggle to gain screen space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243211
The tool under the date plugin is PhoneAlarm.
It's a great tool, and Bruce the author is a great developer, but I've had a few troubles >= WM5.
But, I love the app, and AlarmToday.
dcdivenut: regarding the scrollbars, it is possible but a little complicated and you have to registry edit, so backup first.
1. Backup Registry, then using a good registry editor go to
HKLM > Software > Microsoft > Today > Items
2. Find the Plugin you want to be scrollbar less, eg in my case VJAudioNotes.
3. Glance through the entries and find the one that says "Type". Double click type and change the value to 5
4. Go into Settings > Today and make some minor change to your today screen to force it to refresh (or just soft reset). Hopefully the changes will now be reflected.
This will force the plugin to the top of the screen and force scrollbars to occur under that plugin.
Eg:
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Thanks
Thanks for the ideas (and sorry for the delay in gratitude, it has been a crazy day at work!)
The bar is indeed phoneAlarm and I am using the B&W Pure skin in minimized mode. It is a VERY useful tool that adds true profile capability with both time and activity based profile switching. The product has great support (forum based) and the next version (1.6) is in beta right now. There is also a lite version.
I will try some of the solution suggested and see what I can make work. I really wanted to stay away from utilizing another app just to prevent scroll bars so I will give vijay's process a shot and see what happens.
Worked perfectly
I tried Vijay's suggestion and it worked perfectly. Then for kicks and giggles I tried it with Battery status as well and it worked there too, forcing the scrollbar below that. Then I tried it with the photo dialer and it would not take so this is where I am at now, which is definitely a situation I can live with. Thanks Vijay!!
Not that I'm "Mr. OG" and been around this forum for a long time but I've done a **** load of reading in this forum and never once came across this. That is a fantastic little tip there VJ!
Good stuff!
j3d1n4s7y said:
I've done a **** load of reading in this forum and never once came across this. That is a fantastic little tip there VJ!
Good stuff!
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That's what I'm here for. I have to say, I've also excreted an enormous amount of reading on the site, and can't say I've seen this tweak either, but one day I was fussing about with my plugins and thought I'd try it, and hey presto, Robert's your father's brother.
Post more screenshots guys.
V

Athena Project Feature Request

Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
Dont forget to
or this cant happen
suggestions...
Midget_1990 said:
Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
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- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
- All black VGA theme. Similar to the default WM6 theme but all black.
- If possible, maybe an updated version of Pirazu so we can control a mouse cursor with the joystick?
- Alternative to BlueMouse so we can use a BT mouse cursor on the device. BlueMouse is nice but it costs.
Make it work like "Touch" may be the looks....
vueFlo for everything.
jab said:
vueFlo for everything.
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Yes...how did I forget this. For sure trying to tie the vueFlo into other apps and possibly games, etc.
ltxda said:
- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
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For me, these first five would be a darn good start.
- With #1 - Usable dialer in TrueVGA would be #1 on my list.
Couple more (may already be fixed in WM6, but have yet to plunge):
- WiFi On/Off is flaky unless you actually go into the Comm Manager (e.g., PhoneAlarm and other programs are not effective)
- I still have problems doing multiple mappings to Win and OK buttons. AEBPlus does this kinda, but then other buttons get mucked up. Given few number of buttons, this is really limiting.
Wish list:
- USB-powered Beer Tap. I know the low-power port might be an issue, but I'm sure this should be doable. Integration with MS VC would also be great, "Computer, pour beer." (All I can say is, it's been a long day!)
Actually I should have just put mapping of the vueFlo API. That should open up the rest of the developers to building cool widgets also.
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
bebox said:
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
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That would be cool! I'm in favour!
i think rotate screen would a great feature when you see a photo .
widcomm bluetooth stack =) for dun
also a way to use another windows phone as a bt headset like the touch (if possible)
Solid & Fast ROM compatible with previous backups
Damn guys...you're not asking for much are you...hehe. Actually I quite like the sound of the all Black VGA ROM with Touch like interface.
But hey, I'll settle for a an all black super reliable and damn fast ROM in vanilla favour.
You guys have made some great suggestions, that I can't argue with. All I can say..is I'd love a ROM that I can use my Spb Backup files with...without corrupting any software, so when you release version 0.1, 0.2 etc...it will still be compatible with my backup files, making the switching of ROM's a quick thing to do.
I hate my phone being out of action. and having to re-install everything again.
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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why not just make vueflo toggle ?
c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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i think i can fix the larger text part...
here try this
WARNING...THIS IS NOT REVERSIBLE....NOT WITHOUT CHANGING SOME REG. ENTRIES... AT LEAST (and i don't know which one's need to change!!)
works well with se VGA too esp. if you have fading eyesight!!!
How about an icon on the task bar that rotates screen.
Also, when using the device in QVGA mode, smaller icons on today screen, start/program screen, start/setting screens.
When in VGA mode, but running a QVGA program , show a matching size bigger soft key buttons.
Show connection icons (H, 3G, G) correctly when in true vga mode.

Enlarge your today screen (how to remove the bottom menu bars)

If you're looking to get rid of the menu bar at the bottom of the Today Screen, read on. This is not a new tip, but might save you time, as there's a lot of different versions of these programs flying around. Only the one below works on WM6 / HTC Touch.
I personally find that the Menu Bars at the bottom of the Today Screen really spoil the look of the HTC Touch's sleek black/grey theme. Besides, the Comm Manager and Contacts are both accessible via the spinning cube (or the camera button if you install Double Launcher) so there's no need to have on the Today Screen, you may as well get more space for plugins, or just to keep everything looking neat and tidy. See screenshot below!
Here's how to banish them forever (?!) :
1. Download ToggleTodayIIAlpha from this link:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjtoggletodayii/vjtoggletodayiialpha.exe
2. Copy it to your \Windows\Startup directory. (or somewhere else and paste a shortcut instead)
3. Go into the registry and edit this key:
HKLM/Software/Vijay555/VJTodayToggle
Change these keys:
Softkeysize = 1
StartSize = 26
TrayVisible = 1
That's it! I've had no massive problems with this so far, although I haven't been testing it for too long. I'd be interested to hear how people get on in terms of stability/bugs. You WILL get problems if you try to use any of the older VJTodayToggle programs in the thread on this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243211
(SIP keyboard staying on, SIP moving to the top of the screen, menu titles disappearing but not the background, etc.)
...in fact, that's precisely why I'm sharing this info with you, as this thread is 39 pages long and it's only towards the end that things become totally clear! I'll post again if there's any unexpected side-effects, I'm currently minimising BatteryStatus and I don't know whether this will
Good luck!
Carlos
NOTES / ADVANCED
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A: If you want to make your screen even neater AND still overclock your Touch, then, in step 3 above, you can make TrayVisible=0 then you can minimise the BatteryStatus plugin and it won't show up on your today screen. (right click on batterystatus icon, choose 'show rows -> minimise') I haven't tested this properly yet.
B: If you want to explore hiding the Start Menu, feel free, it looks superb when you first do it, but then I have found that the HTC biotouch (spinning cube) automatically re-instates the start menu bar when it's deactivated each time.
C: Please note, this program ( tt2.exe) DOES NOT TOGGLE, even though it's called that! Again, it's a 39 page thread, I warned you...
D: You can also run TT2.exe with a -config option to avoid editing the registry, but this would actually make the above even more long-winded to explain to any n00bs.
E: A nice new HTC wallpaper is doing the rounds without the logo. (As you can see from my screenshot, it's mis-positioned with the extra screen space) See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830
F: Vijay555 has been meaning to release a new (non-alpha) version of the software for some time, but sounds pretty busy. He seems like an all-round splendid guy though and I'd like to thank him for this software and his continued postings/programming.
I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.
BigDede said:
I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.
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Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!
carlosp_uk said:
Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!
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Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray (the bar just above the softkeys bar) where we can add shortcuts icons and keep the softkeys bar enabled..
Im disappointed but thks for vijay555 for all the efforts
Perfect... without HTC Logo is even better...
Thanks Carlos,
I've just installed and its working fine. With the clean background from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830 looks even better.
Cheers,
Marcelo
BigDede said:
Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray
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See my original post, have you tried setting TrayVisible=1 in the registry, this should show the system tray.
I followed exactly what u posted, it displayed it correctly the first time, then after soft reset it was displaying only the softkeys bar and hiding the system tray bar
Thks anyway
How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens.
Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....
maevro said:
How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens. Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....
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The menu bar is visible on other screens, this behaviour is by design. I cannot see why anybody would want it invisible on other screens, as you normally need those softkeys for menus in most programs!
As far as I know you can use the bottom of the screen, it is not dead space. But why not try it out - it's unlikely to do any harm. You can always delete it from your startup directory to uninstall if you don't want it.
C
Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)
I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
V
vijay555 said:
I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
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Thks a lot vijay555
HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???
maevro said:
Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)
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How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
--Marc
soulstar said:
HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???
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Just soft reset your phone.
marc2503 said:
How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
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Use the HTC Home customizer to "unlock" it. Then you can move it around like normal.
However, it doesn't redraw correctly on the right side if you unlock it, and a scrollbar comes and goes.
i have a other solution!! PCM shrink installe it and your bar remove it s very easier! For become to the original config juste delete the programmz!!
won't stick
Hi..very nice and easy Zip File..just one problem: the toggle won't stick after a soft reset = one has to go into File Explorer..double click the Toggle File and only than the screen is "clean" again.
Any way to make the toggle "stick"?
I have not this problem! I install the cab i going on the explorer and today shrink and clik on after i reboot my pda ans the bar not appear ... You can try put a abbreviated of today skrink in WINdows/started for star the application automatic on windows sartup
the result of the appl:
I have this running at startup on my Tilt, works with screen rotations and everything! And the hard keys are still mapped to calendar and contacts for quick access, awesome.
Many thanks, couldn't stand those useless soft keys before.
- Charles

iPhone App for Windows Mobile

Version 1.0 Released :
Features :
1. All the icons can be customized in a simple Configx.txt File.
2. All the Text under the Icons is also in the Configx.txt File
3. All Applications thats executed can be customized in the Configx.txt file
Lemme Explain about the Configx.txt files
Its in the Following Format :
1.It first has the 16 icons paths as in \Icons\*.bmp
2.Then 16 Names for the icons
3.The then 16 application paths that will run for the apps as in \Windows\calendar.exe for example to launch the calendar
4. BottomDockVisible=0 0 is to hide and 1 is to show th bottom dock
Installation : Insal the CAB file. (It will ceate the folder and the Start Menu Item then :
1. Extract the iPhone1.0.zip file into this folder
\Progrm Files\IPhone\Iphone.exe
\Progrm Files\IPhone\Config1.txt up to config5.txt - Configuration Files
\Progrm Files\IPhone\Signal.txt - App to run when clicking on Signal Indicator or centre button on navi pad (I use slider for this)
\Progrm Files\IPhone\Icons - All Icon Files
\Progrm Files\iphone.txt - Other settings
Final Notes :
Clicking on the battery will quit the app or return to page 1 if on another page
Version History :
0.90 Signal Strength, Operator Inidicator, Battery Level not Live
0.91 Signal Strength Working, Operator Name Working, Battery Level Still not Working
0.92 Battery, Signal Strength, Operator Name Live, added Wiki Icon.
0.93 Battery, Signal Strentgh, Operator Name now revoers after wakeup and added iphone ringtone
0.94 Automatically centres text for icon descriptions, has .lnk support including parameters.
0.95 Few changes, the second icon in the bottom row is now used for missed calls, sms and email notification. If upgrading from older version please go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=1#post1234936 and refer to post 148.
0.96 All known issues have been resolved. sms, email, missed call notification. Also shows number of unread mails and missed call count.
0.97Four extra Pages added, to use them enter either page1 or page2 or page3 or page4 instead of the .exe file name
If you dont wanna make use of the notification please add a ,9 after the images eg \icons\phone.bmp,\icons\phone-alert.bmp,9
To hide an Image and its text add a ,0 after the image eg \icons\comm.bmp,0
0.99 After about 7 months. I think all the bugs have been resolved and added some popping away function when switching pages as well as running apps.x Popping away animationis set in the iphone.txt file. 0 disabled and any number will set the pop away speed
- Making all pages accessable from any page.
- WM2003 background fixed
- 12/24 hour clock support
- Animation added
- Only one form but multiple pages - one instance
1.0 All bugs removed, link files updated. Can hide any icon by adding a ,0 after it and can isable any of the three bottom notifition icons by addin a ,9 after it
One last thing: I explained the .lnk files format but some people cant read through the pages. pp9939068 explains it in datail on page 41 post 408 please look at it http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...302739&page=41
When Upgrading u guys please read th readme file in the zip file, I changed a lot in the format.
If you like this app Click Here to make a donation
Some people dont wanna use the bottm 3 icons as notification icons so to disable it add a ,9 after the one you want disabled, u can also hide the bottom 4 icons by adding a ,0 after all of them and to hide the complete bottob dock change the 1 on the last line in the specific config file to a 0.
If the .Cab file wont install, just unzip the iphone-1.exe.zip file into the \Program Files\iPhone\ folder
I fixed the bug for at & T and moved everything up and smaller to make space for the blue tooth icons coming soon
Inphy release the new iconfig for iphone 1.0 please find it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306616
Development stopped!!
There is a new iphone out there that seems much better please have a look : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369241
yes. Good job and wow it is surely a long time ago, i wasnt even on xda by that time,
cheers!
will this version work on qvga (240x240)? i remember the last version wasn't soo......? lol
missing link
The program looks good and it feels good. Maybe I'll make a mistake but (MDA TOUCH, WM6) The phone button responds with a error (File not found \windows\vtkey.exe). Same error when trying to use the battery button, \windows\power.exe.
Is there a solution ?
Now all we need is an iphone like photo viewer, what you can navigate with your fingertips..
Any idea?
photo
Now all we need is an iphone like photo viewer what you can navigate with your fingertpis
any idea?
ejansen said:
The program looks good and it feels good. Maybe I'll make a mistake but (MDA TOUCH, WM6) The phone button responds with a error (File not found \windows\vtkey.exe). Same error when trying to use the battery button, \windows\power.exe.
Is there a solution ?
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Yes its different for most devices/Os's so go into the \windows folder and find out which files do what and simply change the config1.txt file
typhoone said:
will this version work on qvga (240x240)? i remember the last version wasn't soo......? lol
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I really wish I could help but its very difficult to change stuff without having a 240x240 device. Mine is a TYTN2 240x320 so i cant help sorry man. Ill have a look on the weekend and see if i can try and make a plan
justcruising said:
Now all we need is an iphone like photo viewer what you can navigate with your fingertpis
any idea?
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I dont know what it looks like. Try and get a video or something and im sure i can try and develop it
Grumps said:
I dont know what it looks like. Try and get a video or something and im sure i can try and develop it
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the "HTC Photo Album" is good and so is ImageViewer from pocketcm.com . Both free.
qvga only ?
NICE APP
Grumps,
VERY NICE APP. I am using it and it is great. Works well with S2U2 version too. My input for cometics only:
a. Can we put the operator name closer to the signal bar? This will allow room for other indicators such as Wifi and BT.
b. Can we have BT and Wifi indicator on the top bar? These two will make the SW going from COOL to WHOA!!!!!
Thanks and cant wait for your next release.
HaiLe512 said:
Grumps,
VERY NICE APP. I am using it and it is great. Works well with S2U2 version too. My input for cometics only:
a. Can we put the operator name closer to the signal bar? This will allow room for other indicators such as Wifi and BT.
b. Can we have BT and Wifi indicator on the top bar? These two will make the SW going from COOL to WHOA!!!!!
Thanks and cant wait for your next release.
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I can the only problem is what do we do if the operator name is too long mine is HSDPA Vodacom SA and I made it so its just fits??
If i make it smaller it might say HSDPA Vodaco or something and ill hear more people crying? Any suggestions
And yes only QVGA, I dont have a VGA device to develop with sorry
This is a great app except...
There's no animation when you launch something. Or highlight. So sometimes you press again while waiting for something to start up.
Can we please get some sort of feedback when it's accepted the fact you pressed a button? Not sure how this works on the fruit based phone but I'm sure there should be some feedback.
Thanks.
ok just want to say great app.
here are some suggestion for you on the next version.
add scrolling to the app so if you want to add more icons on one page you can.
let it pick up default icons from the programs so you don't have to waste anytime on picking an icon for it. (but you can if you want too.)
scroll with finger to go right or left to go to the next page.
i have some other ideas and i would like to share it with you. if you are interested please P.m.
thanks,
the changelog says it has animations now. I just can't see any. What is meant by "animation added"?
Great work anyways.
BTW: Being able to scroll only one of the horizontal lines from left to right would be great, for, let's say, less important apps. So you have 3 rows of static buttons and just one row that can be scrolled by finger gestures... Saw that on iPhone, looked amazing...
I Concur
IMO, it would be great to have a scrolling launch page. Either horizontal or vertical. Also, annimation and vibrate with icon color change to reflect program choice.
Does the calendar icon keep up with the actual date??
Thanks,
CG
Thanks for such a GREAT app - assigned a button to it and it works like a charm. I do have one question \ request: is it possible to move the title bar elements up a bit? I use an app to hide the Windows Start bar and the softkeys (it is one of Vijay's tools) and your app then acts as my home page for most running applications (there are a few exceptions but overall it works great). The only issue is that the elements on your app (clock, battery, signal indicator, etc.) are a little low (2 pixels or so) so things look a little "off". I was hoping it was or could be a user changable setting.
Please don't take this as a complaint! Your app, combined with S2U2 provide an excellent UI experience. Thanks again for such excellent work.
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Thanks for such a GREAT app - assigned a button to it and it works like a charm. I do have one question \ request: is it possible to move the title bar elements up a bit? I use an app to hide the Windows Start bar and the softkeys (it is one of Vijay's tools) and your app then acts as my home page for most running applications (there are a few exceptions but overall it works great). The only issue is that the elements on your app (clock, battery, signal indicator, etc.) are a little low (2 pixels or so) so things look a little "off". I was hoping it was or could be a user changable setting.
Please don't take this as a complaint! Your app, combined with S2U2 provide an excellent UI experience. Thanks again for such excellent work.
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Good idea to assign it to a button, I was trying to figure out how to integrate it better as a complete solution. Only problem is that on the Touch there is only really one button I can use and I was using it for the Full Screen Keyboard and to hold it down to get voice dial. I'm sure I'll work something out though.
I saw the link in the first post talking about how to get the .lnk files right and I assume that means for the Phone/Calc/etc which do not have .exes that I can easily find. I'll do some research to get that working.
Thanks for a great app!
Thanks for the info
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I can the only problem is what do we do if the operator name is too long mine is HSDPA Vodacom SA and I made it so its just fits??
If i make it smaller it might say HSDPA Vodaco or something and ill hear more people crying? Any suggestions
And yes only QVGA, I dont have a VGA device to develop with sorry
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Grumps,
Thanks for the info. I can see the name is an issue. If it is moved left align one space right after the signal strength then it will be good even with the longer operator name. If it is done that way, then if the BT and WiFi indicators are needed, that is when they are turned on, then they can be arranged to the left of the clock. These will cover the last portion of the long operator name but I think it will be acceptable because many things operate in the same manner due to the fact that there is not enough space for everything.
Thanks again for this VERY NICE APP. IT ROCKS!

Transparent Keyboard

Hi guys,
I just got an idea about keyboard for PPC... that will be more finger friendly, PLUS, screen friendly.
Would it be possible to build something like FULL SCREEN keyboard overlay the screen, but still able to see the running software and able to see words is inputting? Just like a transparent keyboard layout on the screen, but doesn't really eat up the screen space. Not sure if I describe well enough. What do you guys think?
I am not a programmer, so I can only hand off my idea and pass the development to any volunteer programmer who has the knowledge and ability to make it.
- andre
Sounds like a great idea
Post your suggestion on the PocketCM.com forum and maybe the keyboard over there could be adapted.
As many of the screens on WM6 are designed for the built-in kb, the dialogue boxes can get cut off if you use an opaque kb.
Thanks. I've done so. I hope to see something like this one day. =)
That is actually a very good idea. I wonder how difficult it would be to do? I know nothing about SIP programming, heh.
Unless I am mistaken, it's impossible to do that as WM6 does not support transparency or graphical layers
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Unless I am mistaken, it's impossible to do that as WM6 does not support transparency or graphical layers
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How the S2U2 volume is working? It's transparent if you wish
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How the S2U2 volume is working? It's transparent if you wish
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I don't think it is... All programs that appear transparent (and there are many, throttlelock, mortbuttons, s2u2 volume etc etc) just take a screenshot of the background and draw over that. Which means that they just appear to be transparent - if things change beneath, you cannot see them, what you see is the screen like it was when you launched the program.
I hope someone corrects me on that, but I am pretty sure it works like that
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I don't think it is... All programs that appear transparent (and there are many, throttlelock, mortbuttons, s2u2 volume etc etc) just take a screenshot of the background and draw over that. Which means that they just appear to be transparent - if things change beneath, you cannot see them, what you see is the screen like it was when you launched the program.
I hope someone corrects me on that, but I am pretty sure it works like that
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So make it take a screenshot every second or so...?(Dynamo 3 does that, not for transparency but for thumbnails, but it does that)
I don't know if it's doable. It's easy to get the current screen (what WM is currently painting), but not that easy to get a screenshot of a background program, or the desktop. Programs that do that (eg, CapSure) switch to the program you want to take a screenshot of first, so even if you could switch to the program, take a screenie, and get back to where you were in 1 second, the screen would "flicker" all the time.
About Dynamo, I didn't check the latest versions of Dynamo3, but maybe it takes screenshots of the running (front) program? And I don't think it takes screens every second!
Even if I am wrong (very probable), and it's doable, I don't think it would be very practical! For locking programs, this would totally ruin baterry life. For a "transparent" keyboard, 1 per sec would not be enough, and it would probably ruin responsiveness.
Then again, I never tried to play with screenshots and fake transparency for a WM program, so who knows! Maybe! O_O
I've tried to do that for ThrottleLock. My first choice was using the WM_PRINT window message, but it's not supported for windows mobile ... other choice was to send the WM_PAINT message or a refresh and trying to get the DC associated with the window to use BitBlt to copy it to a target Bitmap... Not luck as the window will not be painted while it's not visible... As far as I know it's not possible... If anyone figures out another way to get it please let me know
todaylife can do that all. fully transparent pngs over a changing background.look at my screenshots of my skins, everything is working in background. dont know how dazzlingdazz made it but its true.
In TodayLife, it's the app itself that's painting the background... So it's easy to paint other stuff on top and still show the main screen underneath. Unfortunately not the same thing we want other applications & wm interface to show beneath the transparency.
Android supports multi-layer drawing for applications, let's hope wm7 has it too.
Some 'marshall wait cursors' are transparent. But I don't know anything how they're working.
I had this idea myself about a year ago, but thought that it is impossible to make a transparent sip, because it is not displayed over a program. It's under it. I don't know how to say in English, but I thought the sip reduce the fullscreen-size.
But maybe someone can write a program that is no real sip but transparent over other programs.
I mean like the phone pad, it is no real sip but used as an input method.
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you can guess what I mean.
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Some 'marshall wait cursors' are transparent. But I don't know anything how they're working.
I had this idea myself about a year ago, but thought that it is impossible to make a transparent sip, because it is not displayed over a program. It's under it. I don't know how to say in English, but I thought the sip reduce the fullscreen-size.
But maybe someone can write a program that is no real sip but transparent over other programs.
I mean like the phone pad, it is no real sip but used as an input method.
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you can guess what I mean.
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Marshall waitcursors work with screenshots too.
The SIP doesn't reduce the screen size, some programs however can detect it and re-draw itself, making it seem like the screen size is reduced - but not all, it doesn't work like that I think
There are already fullscreen keyboards over other programs, that's not the problem, the problem is the transparency
excellent idea.
transparency is supported.
Look at RetroPPC clock. the only thing that I had to do to make my clock transparent, was to use PNG-24 format.
so the clock just revolved on top of the background even when it had to shift for the scroll bars.
in any case, the effect can be achived. what about a flash based keyboard?

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