necessary stuffs ... - P3470 General

Well, necessary stuff is USPL.
A stock ROM will also be nice.

dont have one (well have one on my phone)... wouldnt know how to get it off the phone either...so ill leave that for someone else
maybe you can post it suracha?

What do we need?
We need help from an XDA-Developer to create USPL for unlock our device so we can flash unOfficial ROM, I have never worked on this.
So far, I can read the ROM from device and play with it. I believe this is at the same progress as GUIGOU's work. BTW, he also hosts his works on the internet. You may review following threads ...
HTC 3470 (Pharos) Orange French Dump
HTC P3470 Pharos : Searching an Backup Rom
In order to play with customized ROM, I also need Official ROM to re-flash my device ... just in case, you know.
I asked htc Asia last week about an Official ROM, they said the device is new, they may release Official ROM in the future but not now.
I think we should talk to an XDA-Developer who ever made USPL for some device. We do need it !!!

Pharos ROM to Create
I've come across this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667

Pharos ROM to Create
I've come across this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667
It is a technique called JumpSPL. Sound good to me for start fooling with my Pharos. (Thank Pof)
quote from the original post says
Notes on patching & testing custom SPLs:
* Disassemble the SPL using radare (free) or IDA Pro (commercial).
* You need to press the bootloader buttons after loading your custom SPL with JumpSPL, otherwise device will reboot. You can also patch the SPL to enter bootloader mode automatically, so you don't have to press the buttons.
* Some devices require that you unplug and re-plug the USB cable after the SPL has been loaded.
* On some devices (TI OMAP) you'll see a white screen instead of the usual tri-color screen, don't worry about that, you're in bootloader mode.
* Use patched SPLs with caution, try to flash splash screens to do the initial tests and avoid bricking your device.
* To know the jump address you can use itsutils 'pmemdump -p' and try to find a copy of the SPL in memory. You can find the virtual address with dumpromx.exe.
I try both bkondisk = http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-285003.html and pdocread => http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom in order to get my SPL.
Now I am unsuccessfully locating Pharos' SPL...... Worse, I have known of neither Radar or IDA Pro. so That would take a long while until I can convince myself to try the JumpSPL.
Post back if I get any progess.
PS.. to Suracha.. if DopodAsia don't release one soon, don't U think some technical guy at SIS Distribution (Thailand) will have one? if U know some one inside....worth try asking for luck.

bita said:
PS.. to Suracha.. if DopodAsia don't release one soon, don't U think some technical guy at SIS Distribution (Thailand) will have one? if U know some one inside....worth try asking for luck.
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Yep, I am thinking about that.
Hopefully, they should have one.

good progress!
I personally am new to the pda thing, but with proper how to's Id like to tinker with the Pharos.
I saw a thread where an older htc was said to have gps built in but not activated... you can do a search but also check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-293182.html
so it might be the case that we have wifi and 3g but simply disabled.. just like in the touch (elf)
would be cool if this was the case huh?

Got it
bita said:
PS.. to Suracha.. if DopodAsia don't release one soon, don't U think some technical guy at SIS Distribution (Thailand) will have one? if U know some one inside....worth try asking for luck.
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bita, follow the link to thread ... Official ROM 1.11.707.1

Thank Suracha
U are excellent.
I'll be keep fooling my ROM....

Related

Tom HTC Artemis Rom v2.00.01 PDAVIET How to install?

First I want to say sorry!
I have troobles to understand how to install it on my French HTC P3300 .
Can I?
Could someone explain me how to?
Thanx,
Andy
traxer said:
First I want to say sorry! I have troobles to understand how to install it on my French HTC P3300 . Can I?
Could someone explain me how to?
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Sorry for what? Normally it is not necessary to open a new threat for any question that you might have, just join the different threats about a particular subject.
I guess you are new to all this upgrading stuff. First of all, and most important, is to find out whether your device is cid-locked or not. I think that it is safe to say that when you got your device through a telephone provider, like Orange or T-Mobile, at a very cheap price, then the device is locked and you should have it unlocked before flashing any ROM (except the official ones that you can download from your providers site). When you bought your device retail, at the full price (the Artemis is sold around 500 euro's), then the device is not locked.
Upgrading itself can be pretty straightforward: just establish an ActiveSync connection, run the <ROM name>.exe from your pc and follow the instructions on your screen.
grun said:
Sorry for what? Normally it is not necessary to open a new threat for any question that you might have, just join the different threats about a particular subject.
I guess you are new to all this upgrading stuff. First of all, and most important, is to find out whether your device is cid-locked or not. I think that it is safe to say that when you got your device through a telephone provider, like Orange or T-Mobile, at a very cheap price, then the device is locked and you should have it unlocked before flashing any ROM (except the official ones that you can download from your providers site). When you bought your device retail, at the full price (the Artemis is sold around 500 euro's), then the device is not locked.
Upgrading itself can be pretty straightforward: just establish an ActiveSync connection, run the <ROM name>.exe from your pc and follow the instructions on your screen.
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I got it, but can I know if the device is locked or not? Is there any kind of test or software that do this?
thanx in advance
Claudio
cfrs said:
I got it, but can I know if the device is locked or not? Is there any kind of test or software that do this?
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Unfortunately, no, not really. On older HTC models you could find out by running the mtty tool, but it doesn't work on the Artemis. I read somewhere that on our device that whole locking (and unlocking) method is quite different than on other models. That is also why it seems so hard to develop a free unlock tool for the Artemis.
The only way you can be absolutely sure is by running the unlock tool from imei-check, but they will charge you for it.
If you just THINK that your device might be unlocked, then I would not recommend to try flashing any other than an official ROM. Of course, it is your choice and you might want to take the risk. That risk is that your phone will become 'bricked' and won't start normally. The only way out of that situation is returning it to the seller to have it restored. Some people with a bricked phone however are able to restore it themselves with the original ROM, so make sure that you have that ROM available. Some original ROMs can be found on the internet, but not all of them.
sorry but you said
Upgrading itself can be pretty straightforward: just establish an ActiveSync connection, run the <ROM name>.exe from your pc and follow the instructions on your screen.
But if i want flash in my artemis a rom like this one Rom v2.00.02 PV for HTC Artemis ( Crossbow Style ) how can i do that?
Ther are no exe file inside but only one similar with bat extension??
Can you help me please
Thank you
Andreazzo
andreazzo said:
sorry but you said
Upgrading itself can be pretty straightforward: just establish an ActiveSync connection, run the <ROM name>.exe from your pc and follow the instructions on your screen.
But if i want flash in my artemis a rom like this one Rom v2.00.02 PV for HTC Artemis ( Crossbow Style ) how can i do that?
Ther are no exe file inside but only one similar with bat extension??
Can you help me please
Thank you
Andreazzo
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Just connect the USB, let activesync make the connection and start the BAT file in the dir of the rom... wait 30min
grun said:
I guess you are new to all this upgrading stuff. First of all, and most important, is to find out whether your device is cid-locked or not. I think that it is safe to say that when you got your device through a telephone provider, like Orange or T-Mobile, at a very cheap price, then the device is locked and you should have it unlocked before flashing any ROM (except the official ones that you can download from your providers site). When you bought your device retail, at the full price (the Artemis is sold around 500 euro's), then the device is not locked.
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Andreazzo,
Your Artemis, does it have a logo on the body. A logo from maybe T-mobile, Orange, Vodafone, O2 or whatever telecom provider?
If yes, the you shouldn't flash your device with v2.00.02 PV for HTC Artemis ( Crossbow Style ), because the chances are that you will brick it.
If your P3300 only has the HTC logo, then it is fully unlocked and you can flash whatever rom (flavor) you want for the Artemis.
So be aware of the fact. The life of your P3300 is in your hands.
This it is not probably true information. This it is not to end rule
My Artemis he had only logo on body. The logo of start take-off was the only HTC also. No trace T Mobile Orange O2 Vodafone. And I have brick. :{
I tried flash by bootloader however still announcement INVALID ID
Follow for voice grun. get rid (remove) CID - will not it be dust brick as I.
Read this ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306904
Can anyone link me to a page where I can find all HTC Artemis Roms
TalhaQasim said:
Can anyone link me to a page where I can find all HTC Artemis Roms
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_DumpedRoms
Is the SEARCH button broken today?

Telstra HTC HD - Flashing the ROM

I have a Telstra branded HD and wanted to know if anyone has tried flashing the ROM on one of these to a standard ROM?
If so, which one did you use to flash the ROM?
Not that I know anything about flashing ROM's and the phone is only a day old so I am a little worried about trying it.
The first thing I suppose.....is there anyway of backing up the ROM and anything else needed to return the phone to a Telstra branded ROM for warranty purposes if required.
I am at my wits end with this phone in it's current form as I am trying to run it with a vodafone SIM, so all the Telstra shortcuts and websites don't work anyway, that and the Telstra tab seems to replace the weather tab with the current ROM.
I suppose I had better see if I can search the forum for instructions on flashing ROM's for dummies....anyone know a good thread?
Flashing a ROM is not difficult its flashing an spl that is scary(since if you mess up or if your device shuts off while its in the process you have a brick in your hands now, with a rom all you need to do is try again.), also if you want it to be at stock condition if you want to revert back to the original ROM, then use USPL, doesn't change the spl. You have to dump the ROM from the device and then you save it some where safe, then you flash a ROM of your choice. Its not that hard to initiate the process though, since its basically the same for all the devices, if you search around here on the forum for a guide then that should do you some good , but since I am nice here are some useful links.
Guide to flashing:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing Guide
USPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462347
HSPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
List of cooked ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464463
Awesome, thanks for that, I am off to do some reading, one quick question...
On the first guide it says I need to CID-unlock the phone, it that what USPL and HSPL can do for me?
Yea, you don't have to cid unlock since its not available for the Blackstone yet.
Just HardSPL'd my Telstra BLAC120?
I've just used HardSPL on my Telstra Touch HD which is a BLAC120? Is it safe to continue flashing ROM's or can I somehow go back to the original SPL? Then use USPL?
The phone is still in working order after the HardSPL Flash.
Cheers,
-Lucus
HSPL is perfectly fine, but if you want it to be like stock(for warranty purposes), just use USPL to flash the original spl back. You are perfectly fine how you are Lucus Maximus.
~~Tito~~ said:
HSPL is perfectly fine, but if you want it to be like stock(for warranty purposes), just use USPL to flash the original spl back. You are perfectly fine how you are Lucus Maximus.
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Cheers, thanks for the help
-Lucus
This is making my head spin.....been reading and downloading and I am getting very confused, once it all falls into place I am guessing it is going to be easy.
Right I would like to dump the existing ROM and flash with a new one....I need to confirm the steps and what is required.
CID-Unlock the phone, from what you said I don't need to worry about this part
1. Run USPL - have downloaded v2.4...should be good to go
2. What is RUU Update as it mentions it in the instructions for USPL
3. I am guessing at this point I need to backup the existing ROM, not sure how this is done
3. Then the guide says to download the new ROM and run the exe and follow the steps.....sounds easy enough
Some of the guides don't really explain much.....anyway I am thinking of giving it a go.
So do you flash radio's and splash screens using the same method.
Sorry for all the questions (I am guessing you have heard them all before, but I can't find a thread from a ROM flashing virgin like me with all the info), I have been reading, but gets a little confusing after a while.
Ok, RUU update is just the .exe file to use the .nbh(rom file) so it can start flashing.
Hmmm. . . . . .if I had any htc device right now I would make a video guide. . . .
It takes like 2 times for you to get used to flashing a phone, don't worry we have all been there .
pikey1967 said:
This is making my head spin.....been reading and downloading and I am getting very confused, once it all falls into place I am guessing it is going to be easy.
Right I would like to dump the existing ROM and flash with a new one....I need to confirm the steps and what is required.
CID-Unlock the phone, from what you said I don't need to worry about this part
1. Run USPL - have downloaded v2.4...should be good to go
2. What is RUU Update as it mentions it in the instructions for USPL
3. I am guessing at this point I need to backup the existing ROM, not sure how this is done
3. Then the guide says to download the new ROM and run the exe and follow the steps.....sounds easy enough
Some of the guides don't really explain much.....anyway I am thinking of giving it a go.
So do you flash radio's and splash screens using the same method.
Sorry for all the questions (I am guessing you have heard them all before, but I can't find a thread from a ROM flashing virgin like me with all the info), I have been reading, but gets a little confusing after a while.
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If you don't want to worry about backing up your existing ROM the Telstra one is available on the HTC website here
Hope that helps
-Lucus
Thanks for that....right now to go and find myself a new ROM.
Just out of interest, which ROM did you use Lucas?
Been looking at this.......
Dutty's ROMS
What is the difference with these:
HD V1.7 5.2.20769.1.4.5 Full CVSD WWE
HD V1.7 5.2.20769.1.4.5 Full MSVC WWE
I am yet to work out all this ROM talk......I am guessing WWE is the English version, but what is "CVSD" & "MSVC"
Oh and how do I work out what radio version these ROMS use to make sure it is the same as the one I have
When you turn on your device, look at the red R and see what it says, then when you flash a ROM with a different radio, just re flash yours.(same process as flashing a ROM but easier, and there are different radios available to DL).
pikey1967 said:
Thanks for that....right now to go and find myself a new ROM.
Just out of interest, which ROM did you use Lucas?
Been looking at this.......
Dutty's ROMS
What is the difference with these:
HD V1.7 5.2.20769.1.4.5 Full CVSD WWE
HD V1.7 5.2.20769.1.4.5 Full MSVC WWE
I am yet to work out all this ROM talk......I am guessing WWE is the English version, but what is "CVSD" & "MSVC"
Oh and how do I work out what radio version these ROMS use to make sure it is the same as the one I have
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FAQ: What are CVSD and MSVC.
Solution: CVSD is Cyberon Voice Speed Dial which is mostly the default voice application in most shipped ROMs. MSVC is Microsoft Voice Command which is an advance voice application from MS.
I tried Black Pearl, but most things I've read are saying that Dutty's is the best, so giving that a go now.
As long as I can get all the telstra site settings working I'll stick with it otherwise it's back to the Telstra ROM untill I can find out a way to get it all working.
-Lucus
Too easy, flashed the ROM to Duttys v1.7
Now to go and find all the missing ring tones and stuff, I think I saw something in a thread about Dutty having extra cabs to install this stuff...
I would recommended this to anyone who is trying to run the Telstra branded HD on anything other than the Telstra network.
Getting there now, I have managed to download all the ringtones and stuff, so I have more than the 3 ringtones supplied with the ROM
Where is this MSVC that is supposed to be part of the ROM???
Off to search some more and see what other software I can find.
This has made the Telstra branded HD a lot better, all Telstra branding has gone, including splash screen and the phone actually works now, can get POP3 email, Internet, Exchange email etc without an issue.
The first thing it did was set the phone up for the correct Network as soon as I put in the SIM and powered it up....great!
Well I was really pissed off with the HD with all the Telstra branding and was at the point of returning the HD and going back to the iPhone, but now things are starting to look up......we will see how things go.
pikey1967 said:
Getting there now, I have managed to download all the ringtones and stuff, so I have more than the 3 ringtones supplied with the ROM
Where is this MSVC that is supposed to be part of the ROM???
Off to search some more and see what other software I can find.
This has made the Telstra branded HD a lot better, all Telstra branding has gone, including splash screen and the phone actually works now, can get POP3 email, Internet, Exchange email etc without an issue.
The first thing it did was set the phone up for the correct Network as soon as I put in the SIM and powered it up....great!
Well I was really pissed off with the HD with all the Telstra branding and was at the point of returning the HD and going back to the iPhone, but now things are starting to look up......we will see how things go.
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Yep, all you needed to do is change the ROM, you didn't need to return anything. It was just the shipped ROM that's all.
Thanks again for your help....
Still trying to find the MSVC app in Dutty's ROM v1.7???
I downloaded the MSVC version, but can't see the application
great info here guys, just got my HD the other day and dislike all the Telstra branding. one question though before I begin changing ROM's, did you guys finally end up getting the weather tab to work, or the "customize tabs" option in the settings tab?
cheers,
Ditto! Can someone pls confirm Dutty's ROM has weather+stocks tab etc? And can someone who downloaded the Telstra ROM off HTC please mirror it somewhere? (attach here or mediafire it etc). Or if anyone has an official Blackstone rom from another region that would be good too... many thanks!

Is there a Orange ROM upgrade?

Have Touch HD from Orange.
Tried to update ROM from HTC site.
Put SNo in but would not reconise it.
Is there a work round or a copy on your site that works?
Orange Touch seems to have minimum Orange changes anyway in ROM.
Or as Orange its own ROM upgrade hiding some where.
I also have a Touch HD from Orange. Although I got this when it was first released so appears to have no Orange software installed, my SN is also not recognised on the HTC website. I called Orange about the ROM upgrade who said they have not released one and weren't able to tell me if they have any plans to. They also said that if I install any ROM other than one from Orange themselves that it will invalidte the warranty. I explained to them that as the new ROM includes various fixes they should release it - it's like having Windows XP/Vista and not being able to download any bug fixes.
From reading various messages on this forum I believe there are workarounds by using a different serial in order to get the ROM from the HTC site although I'm not happy about invalidating my warranty so I'm going to hold off for the time being and hope that Orange release something soon.
Easy workarounds guys if you read the forums & wiki
You can load USPL or latest Hard SPL (see signature) and then flash new roms on HTC site or cooked roms on here. Read up on both of these first in wiki
If you ever need to return phone you can return to your stock HTC rom. All stock roms can be found here.
If you are unsure about procedure to flash roms you can read up in wiki or follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide (see signature)
Hope this helps
BazzerBazzer said:
Have Touch HD from Orange.
Tried to update ROM from HTC site.
Put SNo in but would not reconise it.
Is there a work round or a copy on your site that works?
Orange Touch seems to have minimum Orange changes anyway in ROM.
Or as Orange its own ROM upgrade hiding some where.
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i tried mine too!
i ended up putting the new rom anyway with a different serial number and using the uspl flash mentioned above.
found the device to be faster and i got a better signal at home. did not know that it would void the warranty! sure you could get the orange rom back from a forum search and re-install it prior to being sent away
Fallen Spartan said:
Easy workarounds guys if you read the forums & wiki
You can load USPL or latest Hard SPL (see signature) and then flash new roms on HTC site or cooked roms on here. Read up on both of these first in wiki
If you ever need to return phone you can return to your stock HTC rom. All stock roms can be found here.
If you are unsure about procedure to flash roms you can read up in wiki or follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide (see signature)
Hope this helps
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Dear Sir do you mean that if I get an Orange branded HD will I able
to unbranded it (which method I'll follow) and install any ROM I want
from HTC or custom?
I have also tried to update from the HTC web site but also fails to detect my serial number??
Anyone know of another serial number I can use to get the download or know where to download it from?
Do Orange usually release firmware updates for HTC's they sell?
Usually - but often months "late"
I wouldn't hold your breath for 6.5 either seeing as the HD doesn't have a windows button.
I'm keen on 6.5 too but don't want to invalidate any warranty I have.

Used to use cooked rom, phone function sudden failed.

I used to use cooked rom, tried 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5.x.
Failed to search for phone signal today, confirmed not SIM card problem.
Will cooked rom damage hardware? Thanks!
I don't think so , Hard-reset your phone with your Sim-card inside it and it will work again
If the problem still persist, try to install radio from this link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440503
If that does not solve the problem, I think the only way is to install a shipped ROM that suits with your phone's specification (ELF or ELFIN, Model ID and etc).
But don't forget to return your SPL and IPL to origina ones when you will load a shipped ROM. You can find them on XDA Wiki.
Hope your Elf (Elfin?) will be Ok!
How can I know my original IPL? SPL?
if you didn't run the dsixda script before hand that grabs all your information, and have sinced changed your IPL/SPL then I'm not sure.
However, If you know your phone model number (T-MOB0005 etc.) You may be able to guesstimate to what they were based on that - Personally, I think that could be a bit risky, but it was worth the suggestion.
Do you remember if you have changed the IPL and SPL? You could always run the dsixda script now to see what you have. It should be in the ROM section
Sorry I can't be more help, but I can only make a suggestion as to how, as I have always took a note of them before starting anything.
At the same time - I also have an elf that is unable to connect to a network, I have tried radio upgrades etc and custom roms, so if you do fix it, I know that I would appreciate the outcome, as would many others who have posted the same issue - In the mean time I am continuing my hunt for a fix for it
Stu
captainstu72 said:
if you didn't run the dsixda script before hand that grabs all your information, and have sinced changed your IPL/SPL then I'm not sure.
However, If you know your phone model number (T-MOB0005 etc.) You may be able to guesstimate to what they were based on that - Personally, I think that could be a bit risky, but it was worth the suggestion.
Do you remember if you have changed the IPL and SPL? You could always run the dsixda script now to see what you have. It should be in the ROM section
Sorry I can't be more help, but I can only make a suggestion as to how, as I have always took a note of them before starting anything.
At the same time - I also have an elf that is unable to connect to a network, I have tried radio upgrades etc and custom roms, so if you do fix it, I know that I would appreciate the outcome, as would many others who have posted the same issue - In the mean time I am continuing my hunt for a fix for it
Stu
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Is that means that I can only use cooked rom from now on if I don't know the original SPL IPL?
rexlun said:
Is that means that I can only use cooked rom from now on if I don't know the original SPL IPL?
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If you haven't changed them, then you could well still be able to use your shipped rom.
but if you don't know what they were, and have changed them, then yes, custom roms is the only way for you, from what I understand.
captainstu72 said:
If you haven't changed them, then you could well still be able to use your shipped rom.
but if you don't know what they were, and have changed them, then yes, custom roms is the only way for you, from what I understand.
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Thank you for your kindly help! Is so nice to be here!
I'll keep trying and report here if I've my 'touch' recover!
Really Thanks!
No probs, it's what this site is for

Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
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Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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btw, is author of topic here?
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
cit:
You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
Yes, the author is very present
@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.

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