Related
ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
Jc61990 said:
ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What we have for text, email, and the internet...........? What? You need to reword what you're saying.
What plan should i get from AT&T. for this phone device, i already have, Phone Service.. i need a secondary plan for Internet and stuff
I don't know what AT&T's plans are looking like these days, but I have mediamax 200. It gives me unlimited internet and 200 texts a month for $15. Although I think the regular price is more like $20.
im looking at this plan for 39.99 extra
PDA Personal Max
PDA Connect Unlimited data usages plus 1500 integrated Bolt-on for PDA devices only.
View Details
You need a compatible plan and phone to get this service.
but whats bolt-on?
Jc61990 said:
ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Return it and get the 8925 (Kaiser/ TYTN II/ TILT). You should qualify for a free one if its within 30 days.
got it off ebay so i doubt it
When I got my plan Cingular offered 4 internet plans:
$20 - unlimited data
$40 - unlimited data
$60 - unlimited data
$80 - unlimited data
It was a pretty hard choice.
The only difference between cheap and expensive is that you get to use isp.cingular as your access point instead of wap.cingular.
yea i got the PDA Personal Max Unlimited for 49.99 it gives me unlimited Internet and Text Messanging
I did a quick search on this and couldn't seem to find anything pertaining to this partciular topic, but I assume someone has thought of it before... I apologize in advance if this has been asked already.
I have a Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard) and currently am paying the 40$/month for Media Max Unlimited... What I'm wondering is if it's possible to use the 20$/month "SmartPhone Connect Unlimited" plan with this phone? I know Cingular claims that it only works with the Cingular 2125, Audiovox SMT5600, and Motorola MPx 220; however, I was wondering if it was possible to basically trick them into thinking you have one of those phones, hense getting unlimited internet for 20$ instead of 40$.
I hope this thread isn't against any rules, in which case please delete
I did some research into this a while back, and from what I got, it's possible, but risky.
From what I hear, they'll slap a lot of overage charges and stuff on you unnecessarily.
I don't remember how to do it, but it's taking a chance. You may save 20/mo, but you risk having to pay more each month in extra charges. In the end, it's up to you if you think it's worth the risk.
you can but
Hi,
you could switch o the cheaper plan, but if you go over the alloted MB's per month you might get an overage charge @ i think0.10/kb. If you keep it under the alloted amount then go for it, but you will rack up the KB's in no time. Better to be safe than sorry and end up with a larger bill.
Great, thanks for the info! Anyone have any personal experiences in trying this? (good or bad)?
nyc_medic said:
Hi,
you could switch o the cheaper plan, but if you go over the alloted MB's per month you might get an overage charge @ i think0.10/kb. If you keep it under the alloted amount then go for it, but you will rack up the KB's in no time. Better to be safe than sorry and end up with a larger bill.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The plan I'm referring to is unlimited data, it's just for a different type of phone.
Funkwheat said:
The plan I'm referring to is unlimited data, it's just for a different type of phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I buddy of mine has an 8125 and is using the Smartphone Unlimited package without any problems, so far. He has been doing this for well over a year.
xpgeek said:
I buddy of mine has an 8125 and is using the Smartphone Unlimited package without any problems, so far. He has been doing this for well over a year.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sweet. Any do's and don'ts for this? And do you know the process for doing so?
Anyone else have any more info on this? =)
I have a 8925 tilt and my plan is the $20 unlimited internet access with 200 txtmsg. works fine. if you want unlimited txtmsg is $30.
Do you know the name of this plan?
Switching from Media Max Unlim to Smart Phone Unlim will rid you of your Unlim TXT msg'ing if you choose to do so...but I'm sure you knew that . If you don't need your unlimited texting, I'd suggest just dropping down to the Media Max 200, it's the same price as Smart Phone Unlim with 200 txt msgs and will get you unlim surfing.
ANY of the unlimited data plans will work with ANY phone. You can even tether you PC and it will work. at&t doesn't have much of a audit system in place to monitor people that are not using the correct data plans. From what I can tell, mostly excessive data usage patterns are the only thing that will throw a red flag.
Think of it like paying to eat at a buffet. You have an adult price, and child price. Your PDA phones are suppose to pay the adult price (aka PDA plans), and regular phones pay the child price (aka Media Max or Smartphone plans). The only problem is, if you get caught eating at the buffet on a child’s price, you are liable to get slapped with some huge data charges.
It's up to each individual if they what to take that risk. I for one can't. I tether A LOT. So I pay the $59 for a Data Connect plan. I NEED to have internet for business reasons. One job for me programming some controllers can net enough to pay for a years worth of Data Connect. Those of you who use it for recreational purposes will find it hard to justify the expense.
With the "mobile hotspot" is what sprint is going to try and charge for $29.00 a month extra?! I have a windows mobile phone and I can teather my windows phone to my laptop via bluetooth or USB cable and it works great when Im in on the go or stuck in the airport or datacenter... etc. I have been reading that PDAnet will do the trick as well.
Another question, how will I be able to sync to Exchange? I really need to sync everything to Exchange as I do with Windows... hate to say it.. but is "is there an app for that" (hate iphones).
Mine is on reserve, ready for a new OS and phone. Windows for years and years.. ready for a change. (hopefully)
You can use PDAnet, though I would honestly recommend just rooting it once we get the option to, as it really expands your tethering options.
As for Exchange support, I know there's some degree of support in 2.1, and it was expanded upon in 2.2. You should be able to sync with just the default mail app, though I've heard it depends on the phone manufacturer.
root your epic on day one with the one click root and enjoy fee tethering, our wait until september for froyo and hope sprint doesn't lock down the tethering that comes with it. Personally, I will root on day one just like I did with my nexus.
Sent from my Nextel™ using the XDA app
Nice... thanks everyone
tommer12 said:
Another question, how will I be able to sync to Exchange? I really need to sync everything to Exchange as I do with Windows... hate to say it.. but is "is there an app for that" (hate iphones).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm coming from the Hero, and currently running 2.2. The exchange support that is built in is good, but there is a very good app ($20 on the market) called Touchdown, that is a superb Exchange client. It allows you to access all of your Exchange folders (not just the inbox), calendar, tasks, contacts, etc.
The only downfall of Touchdown is that it does use Push - which can eat battery quick if you are in a poor service area. You can turn off Push, and just set polling intervals - this will save battery tremendously.
Yeah, I have a Touch Pro and I have my activesync on checking every 10 minutes. I do not need to to super live connected to email. Or I hit the manual button to sync. Touchdown sounds perfect.
Anyone notice this blurb about the data plan? "Everything Data Plan with $10 Premium Data Add-On is required for each Samsung Epic™ 4G "
So does this mean I cant use my 1500 minute plan anymore? Which would suck
No, your current plan is fine, but there is an additional $10/mo fee for this phone, just as with the HTC EVO 4g.
It gives unlimited 3g/4g access (no caps). I've not understood why it's required, but honestly - $10 more on my plan, but I'm still paying only half of what I would with Verizon or AT&T (4 phones on my plan, all unlimited text/data and the same 1500 minute plan + 24% employee discount where I work).
Altos said:
No, your current plan is fine, but there is an additional $10/mo fee for this phone, just as with the HTC EVO 4g.
It gives unlimited 3g/4g access (no caps). I've not understood why it's required, but honestly - $10 more on my plan, but I'm still paying only half of what I would with Verizon or AT&T (4 phones on my plan, all unlimited text/data and the same 1500 minute plan + 24% employee discount where I work).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Diddo.. I have 25 percent with my employer as well... yahoo! But they dont cover the everything plan with 25 percent off... bah... still cheaper than att and verizon
http://www.bgr.com/2012/07/18/att-shared-data-plans-pricing-launch-date/
AT&T on Wednesday announced the upcoming availability of new shared data plans. Following Verizon’s lead, AT&T’s new plans will allow subscribers to share data between family members and also between devices. Dubbed “AT&T Mobile Share” plans, the new offerings start at $40 per month plus $45 per smartphone for unlimited voice minutes and messaging and 1GB of data, and top out at $200 plus $30 per smartphone for unlimited voice and texts plus 20GB of data. Additional data costs $15 per gigabyte. Feature phones can be added to the new plans for $30 per device, connected laptops cost $20 each, and tablets can be added for $10 per device. The new plans do not replace AT&T’s existing data plans, which will remain available following the launch of the new AT&T Mobile Share plans. AT&T’s press release follows below.
AT&T GIVES CUSTOMERS MORE CHOICE WITH NEW
SHARED WIRELESS DATA PLANS
New Mobile Share Plans Allow Customers to Easily Share Data Across
Smartphones, Tablets and Other Devices
New and Current Customers Not Required To Choose or Switch to Shared Plans
DALLAS, JULY 18, 2012 — AT&T* customers will soon have more options in choosing the plan that’s right for them and their mobile devices. With new AT&T Mobile Share plans, available in late August, new and existing customers can share a single bucket of data across smartphones, tablets, and other compatible devices, plus get unlimited talk and text. AT&T Mobile Share plans make it easy for customers to manage their data, voice minutes and texting, without needing to keep track of multiple plans.
Customers can select one of the new shared data plans or choose one of AT&T’s existing individual or family plans. Current customers are not required to switch to the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension. There are no changes to AT&T’s device upgrade policy, which means customers eligible to upgrade to AT&T’s best device price are not required to switch plans. The new plans will also be available for business customers.
With AT&T Mobile Share plans, customers start by choosing how much data they want each month, then choose up to 10 devices to attach to their shared plan, one of which must be a smartphone. Each plan includes tethering and unlimited domestic calls and texts for smartphones and basic or quick messaging phones. The larger the data bucket you choose, the less you pay per gigabyte and the less you pay for each smartphone added to the shared plan.
AT&T Mobile Share allows customers to essentially build a plan to fit their devices and usage. Customers who are more data-centric can choose a larger data bucket. Customers who typically use more voice than data can add multiple smartphones and basic phones and opt for a smaller data bucket.
“We offer customers a broad choice and the best lineup of plans, now enhanced by Mobile Share,” said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility. “With these new plans, the more you share, the more you save. They’ll be a good fit for a variety of new and existing customers. But if customers want to stay on their current plan or choose from our existing plans, they can do that, too. It’s their choice.
“Today we think of people’s smartphones and tablets sharing a bucket of data. But in the future we’ll see health care monitors, connected cars, security systems and other devices in the home all connected to the mobile Internet,” said Christopher. “Our Mobile Share plans are simple, easy and a great value for individuals or families with multiple mobile Internet devices.”
Mobile Share plans give customers more control over how, where and on what device they use data — which has become more important as people use more data devices. You can choose to use more of your data bucket on your tablet, for example, or tap into your data bucket only when needed for devices you use occassionally. And by consolidating data plans, you can take advantage of any data you currently have unused each month by efficiently sharing it across devices.
“The ‘more you share, the more you save’ concept is one that will resonate well with customers because of the value provided through the Mobile Share data plans themselves and in smartphone connection fees,” said Roger Entner, Founder and Lead Analyst of Recon Analytics. “AT&T also is providing its customers with flexibility and choice by keeping its existing data plans and not requiring customers to move to Mobile Share unless they want to. It’s a win-win for both AT&T and its customers.”
To help customers track their data usage, AT&T keeps users informed with courtesy alerts as they near their data allowance for the month. Also, customers can check their usage at anytime online, through the myAT&T mobile app, or by calling *DATA# from their mobile phone.
Each data plan also includes access to more than 30,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots — the nation’s largest Wi-Fi network** among wireless carriers — at no additional charge. Wi-Fi usage at public hotspots, home or office does not count toward the monthly wireless data plan usage.
Customers can learn more about the new plans and determine which plan is best for them at www.att.com/mobileshare.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hold on, let me put on some lipstick. I don't wanna look bad before AT&T ****s me in the ass.
Really? REALLY? For two smartphones with 4GB between the both of them, that would be $150/mo + tax. That's ****ing crazy.
davewuvswaffles said:
Hold on, let me put on some lipstick. I don't wanna look bad before AT&T ****s me in the ass.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This couldn't be any more perfect.
Bottom line, the carriers aren't gonna do anything that doesn't make them money.
catzilla said:
Really? REALLY? For two smartphones with 4GB between the both of them, that would be $150/mo + tax. That's ****ing crazy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But what are you comparing this to? I currently have two smartphones with 700 shared minutes and unlimited texting, one phone has 2gb of data and the other has 200mb. I pay $140+tax. With unlimited calling/texting and a much larger slice of data that what I currently have it would seem to me that the new plan is a better deal.
Pseud0logik said:
But what are you comparing this to? I currently have two smartphones with 700 shared minutes and unlimited texting, one phone has 2gb of data and the other has 200mb. I pay $140+tax. With unlimited calling/texting and a much larger slice of data that what I currently have it would seem to me that the new plan is a better deal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right now my family has Unlimited Messaging and Unlimited Messaging with me having 2GB of Data. We pay around $130+Tax for that. If my aging father wanted a smart-phone, he'd want around 2GB or so of data as well. With this plan it's:
4GB of Shared Data : $70
Smartphone: $40
Smartphone: $40
That's $150+Tax. But then each additional smartphone we add will be $40 and take up our shared data. After two smartphones, it's useless since we're just wasting $10 extra.
Unless you have a bunch of tablets that you only use occasionally, a shared plan seems like a more expensive way to have data.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2
ROFLOL! Thanks for the info... But I'll stick to my current plan... $25 for 2GB... X2 (if I want to) is $50. Why do I want to pay $40+$45 to share on 1GB? That's just like AT&T to force us into a lower plan for more $$$... If you remembered the Unlimited plan for $30, and they forced us to go with $25 for 2GB..
I will have to add ot up for my instance but this NEW plan seems higher for me. I have 4 phones on my plan, mine with the GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA for $30 or $25 (I cannot remember right now) on my SGS2, TWO phones with 2Gbs of data each for the $25, and one dumb phone with no data plan, and ALL share the unlimited mms/sms with 1400 minutes of talk. My bill comes out to about $220 a month after all the taxes and all. I use my UNLIMITED DATA plan to at least the 3Gbs a month before being throttled each month and have kept from being throttled in the last few months as I try to use wifi when downloading anything 100Mbs or more at a time unless I am in teal need of getting something downloaded right now.
Sent from My SGH-I777 Running Red Reaper Rom
RockRatt said:
I will have to add ot up for my instance but this NEW plan seems higher for me. I have 4 phones on my plan, mine with the GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA for $30 or $25 (I cannot remember right now) on my SGS2, TWO phones with 2Gbs of data each for the $25, and one dumb phone with no data plan, and ALL share the unlimited mms/sms with 1400 minutes of talk. My bill comes out to about $220 a month after all the taxes and all. I use my UNLIMITED DATA plan to at least the 3Gbs a month before being throttled each month and have kept from being throttled in the last few months as I try to use wifi when downloading anything 100Mbs or more at a time unless I am in teal need of getting something downloaded right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I remembered it right, it's $30 for GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA.
And I am pretty sure they probably will throttle you for the 20GB plan too. Once you get to a certain GB in the shared plan.
The reality for myself is that I hardly make any calls and basically use this as a portable computer with phone attached if I need it. I use Wifi mostly and as such have used at most 500 megs a month. Usually more like 50. The shared plan would definitely not be helping my wife and I who got 2 gigs for 25$ and the cheapest bucket of family minutes available with no texting. I'd go for a data only plan and pay per minute on calls if I could.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
This is the biggest pile of horse manure from AT&T yet. My wife and I are on a family plan with 550 mins and 2 GB says plan each. I ported both our previous numbers to Google voice, so we basically have unlimited messaging. Unlimited calling since we never go over and have a ton of rollover. So basically for the same 4 GB of combined data and essentially unlimited everything else, we pay 95 after taxes and FAM discount. I really think once our contracts are up, I am going to get the latest gnex and bolt to straight talk or something else.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
karth500 said:
. . . I really think once our contracts are up, I am going to get the latest gnex and bolt to straight talk or something else.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm. That sounds like a good idea.
I can vouch for Straight Talk. I'd much rather pay $500-$650 up front for the phone and pay $45 per month than pay $200 up front for the phone and $100 per month for the next 2 years. Also, you can't get slammed with overages because it's prepaid. If you use around 2GB per month, Straight Talk is a no brainer.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
Just did some quick math...
Straight Talk
$45 per month x 24 months + $650 for phone = $1730 over 2 years
Postpaid AT&T
$100 per month x 24 months + $200 for phone = $2600 over 2 years
Speeds on Straight Talk aren't throttled either, same HSPA+ you get on postpaid. Of course Straight Talk also gives you unlimited voice minutes and texting.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
raduque said:
Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep.
raduque said:
Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much is too much? If it's 2 gb that's terrible, if it's 10 gb, then that's reasonable. Also how do they stop you from just going in and buying another SIM?
karth500 said:
How much is too much? If it's 2 gb that's terrible, if it's 10 gb, then that's reasonable. Also how do they stop you from just going in and buying another SIM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2 GB for $45 a month isn't terrible. If you can keep your usage to <2GB per month and <100MB per day, then it's a no brainer. I've had 200MB days and not gotten flagged or throttled at all. If you're really worried about them closing your account, port your number to google voice first so you don't lose it and activate some random number on your straight talk account.
They block credit card billing info from ordering twice I believe.
nice plan
sweet new plans if you have a large family account and lots of devices!
Currently pay $272 for 4 phones + mifi (add on more for all our ipad's monthly charges here and there) for total of 17gigs worth of data.
Avg usage over last 6months in data is 6.7gigs only too lol
New plan will cost only $237 for 15gigs +unlimited talk and tethering.
seems horrific if you don't have a large family plan. at least you aren't forced onto new plan like Verizon
There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.
Is tethered hotspot a non option?
Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.
smokie11 said:
Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your not wrong. Back in September, I contacted the company that makes FoxFi and asked them if they were going to update pdaNet to work with Motorola phones running Kit Kat on Verizon's network. This was before the Turbo but it relates to all Motorola phones:
Here was their reply:
At this point we do not know if a solution exists around the WiFi blockage but we will keep looking. A solution has only been found for Samsung, LG or HTC phones, just not Motorola.
You can only use bluetooth mode or USB mode.
Thanks,
June Fabrics PDA Software Support
http://www.junefabrics.com
Now you know why is bumming me out, all my previous smartphones I made informed decisions, with the Turbo it was an impulse buy. The phone exceeded my expectations but I failed to do the research into a feature that is very important to me, my wife's Note 3 has hotspot , is not a total disaster but it burns me up.
smokie11 said:
There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.
renegadeone8 said:
Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.
smokie11 said:
You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. The fact that Verizon charges extra for activating the hotspot feature on tiered data plans is plain wrong, and will be made illegal when the new net neutrality laws fall in place.
I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.
Ally Android said:
I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Coronado is dead said:
Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.
Ally Android said:
Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Coronado is dead said:
Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't have a 5GB limit on an unlimted plan. Unlimited means unlimited, even the government agrees on this: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/11/01/federal-government-to-att-wireless-unlimited-data.aspx
Well I am glad to see they finally cracked down on that, because for years unlimited did not really mean unlimited at all, lol.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Verizon start messing with the unlimited plan back in July of 2011. That is when they first started trying to charge extra for using the hot spot option. Back then it was an additional $30 a month for unlimited use of the hot spot. So you would have had to pay $30 a month for unlimited data and then another $30 a month for unlimited data using hot spot.
Have you seen their latest price structure:
1 GB $40 (Considered Light Usage)
2 GB $50 (Considered Heavy Usage) * Seriously? The Turbo can use that much doing nothing.
3 GB $60
4 GB $70
10 GB $80
15 GB $100 (Was 12 GB)
20 GB $150
30 GB $225
40 GB $300
50 GB $375
60 GB $450
80 GB $600
100 GB $750
No wonder they keep trying to get rid of us unlimited plan users. My unlimited plan is less than the 1 GB plan.
I currently have the 15gb plan, 3 lines,a 4g hotspot device, unlimited talk and text, edge plan on the turbo, ensurion, caller ID, and premium visual voicemail all for $208 a month after taxes. 15gigs seems to be enough for me but if I could I would use much more.
Sent from my XT1254
All of the new tiered data plans (the more everything plans) include tethering for no additional charge. You are on a "legacy" plan that technically no longer exists because it is from a time when not everybody and their dog had a smartphone. You have an option to change that. If there was no tethering when you got your plan then quit living in the stone age. It is perfectly legal for them to change the terms when asking you to sign a new contract. If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
Yeah it sucks that we all lost unlimited data, but thats they way it is. Your laptop has the capability of pulling WAY more data than any smartphone in the world. There is a reason they don't want you tethering on an unlimited plan. People using it for torrenting, and netflixing on their 60 inch TV have potential to ruin the network quality for everybody else.
Like I said, I have tethered in the past too with third party apps, but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it. If they catch you in the act they can do anything from blocking your workaround, to completely dropping you and not allowing you to use their network anymore. I've never heard of it happening, just saying it can. I sell VZW, AT&T, and Sprint service on a daily basis I have read every one of those contracts word for word, and third party tethering apps are very specifically prohibited which makes any other argument a moot point. You signed a paper that said you wouldn't tether without paying for that right.
It's also a straight up fact that 98% of people who got booted from unlimited plans were using less than 2GB per month anyway. It's only people like us here on XDA that are heavy users like that, and our abuse of the system is the entire reason they took away unlimited in the first place. If people hadn't been watching 100GB of netflix and pornhub every month on their smartphones then maybe it would never have become an issue. It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.
renegadeone8 said:
If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
renegadeone8 said:
but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
renegadeone8 said:
netflixing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
renegadeone8 said:
It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?
Ally Android said:
Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.
renegadeone8 said:
This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi Hotspot is a native application that Verizon BLOCKS, it is not a third party app.
This is how a Verizon contract should read: Whatever we say is legal because we say so, whatever you think: is wrong, illegal and you the customers are thieves, the only one allowed to steal is Verizon period.
There you go is that better now?