http://www.bgr.com/2012/07/18/att-shared-data-plans-pricing-launch-date/
AT&T on Wednesday announced the upcoming availability of new shared data plans. Following Verizon’s lead, AT&T’s new plans will allow subscribers to share data between family members and also between devices. Dubbed “AT&T Mobile Share” plans, the new offerings start at $40 per month plus $45 per smartphone for unlimited voice minutes and messaging and 1GB of data, and top out at $200 plus $30 per smartphone for unlimited voice and texts plus 20GB of data. Additional data costs $15 per gigabyte. Feature phones can be added to the new plans for $30 per device, connected laptops cost $20 each, and tablets can be added for $10 per device. The new plans do not replace AT&T’s existing data plans, which will remain available following the launch of the new AT&T Mobile Share plans. AT&T’s press release follows below.
AT&T GIVES CUSTOMERS MORE CHOICE WITH NEW
SHARED WIRELESS DATA PLANS
New Mobile Share Plans Allow Customers to Easily Share Data Across
Smartphones, Tablets and Other Devices
New and Current Customers Not Required To Choose or Switch to Shared Plans
DALLAS, JULY 18, 2012 — AT&T* customers will soon have more options in choosing the plan that’s right for them and their mobile devices. With new AT&T Mobile Share plans, available in late August, new and existing customers can share a single bucket of data across smartphones, tablets, and other compatible devices, plus get unlimited talk and text. AT&T Mobile Share plans make it easy for customers to manage their data, voice minutes and texting, without needing to keep track of multiple plans.
Customers can select one of the new shared data plans or choose one of AT&T’s existing individual or family plans. Current customers are not required to switch to the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension. There are no changes to AT&T’s device upgrade policy, which means customers eligible to upgrade to AT&T’s best device price are not required to switch plans. The new plans will also be available for business customers.
With AT&T Mobile Share plans, customers start by choosing how much data they want each month, then choose up to 10 devices to attach to their shared plan, one of which must be a smartphone. Each plan includes tethering and unlimited domestic calls and texts for smartphones and basic or quick messaging phones. The larger the data bucket you choose, the less you pay per gigabyte and the less you pay for each smartphone added to the shared plan.
AT&T Mobile Share allows customers to essentially build a plan to fit their devices and usage. Customers who are more data-centric can choose a larger data bucket. Customers who typically use more voice than data can add multiple smartphones and basic phones and opt for a smaller data bucket.
“We offer customers a broad choice and the best lineup of plans, now enhanced by Mobile Share,” said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility. “With these new plans, the more you share, the more you save. They’ll be a good fit for a variety of new and existing customers. But if customers want to stay on their current plan or choose from our existing plans, they can do that, too. It’s their choice.
“Today we think of people’s smartphones and tablets sharing a bucket of data. But in the future we’ll see health care monitors, connected cars, security systems and other devices in the home all connected to the mobile Internet,” said Christopher. “Our Mobile Share plans are simple, easy and a great value for individuals or families with multiple mobile Internet devices.”
Mobile Share plans give customers more control over how, where and on what device they use data — which has become more important as people use more data devices. You can choose to use more of your data bucket on your tablet, for example, or tap into your data bucket only when needed for devices you use occassionally. And by consolidating data plans, you can take advantage of any data you currently have unused each month by efficiently sharing it across devices.
“The ‘more you share, the more you save’ concept is one that will resonate well with customers because of the value provided through the Mobile Share data plans themselves and in smartphone connection fees,” said Roger Entner, Founder and Lead Analyst of Recon Analytics. “AT&T also is providing its customers with flexibility and choice by keeping its existing data plans and not requiring customers to move to Mobile Share unless they want to. It’s a win-win for both AT&T and its customers.”
To help customers track their data usage, AT&T keeps users informed with courtesy alerts as they near their data allowance for the month. Also, customers can check their usage at anytime online, through the myAT&T mobile app, or by calling *DATA# from their mobile phone.
Each data plan also includes access to more than 30,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots — the nation’s largest Wi-Fi network** among wireless carriers — at no additional charge. Wi-Fi usage at public hotspots, home or office does not count toward the monthly wireless data plan usage.
Customers can learn more about the new plans and determine which plan is best for them at www.att.com/mobileshare.
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Hold on, let me put on some lipstick. I don't wanna look bad before AT&T ****s me in the ass.
Really? REALLY? For two smartphones with 4GB between the both of them, that would be $150/mo + tax. That's ****ing crazy.
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Hold on, let me put on some lipstick. I don't wanna look bad before AT&T ****s me in the ass.
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This couldn't be any more perfect.
Bottom line, the carriers aren't gonna do anything that doesn't make them money.
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Really? REALLY? For two smartphones with 4GB between the both of them, that would be $150/mo + tax. That's ****ing crazy.
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But what are you comparing this to? I currently have two smartphones with 700 shared minutes and unlimited texting, one phone has 2gb of data and the other has 200mb. I pay $140+tax. With unlimited calling/texting and a much larger slice of data that what I currently have it would seem to me that the new plan is a better deal.
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But what are you comparing this to? I currently have two smartphones with 700 shared minutes and unlimited texting, one phone has 2gb of data and the other has 200mb. I pay $140+tax. With unlimited calling/texting and a much larger slice of data that what I currently have it would seem to me that the new plan is a better deal.
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Right now my family has Unlimited Messaging and Unlimited Messaging with me having 2GB of Data. We pay around $130+Tax for that. If my aging father wanted a smart-phone, he'd want around 2GB or so of data as well. With this plan it's:
4GB of Shared Data : $70
Smartphone: $40
Smartphone: $40
That's $150+Tax. But then each additional smartphone we add will be $40 and take up our shared data. After two smartphones, it's useless since we're just wasting $10 extra.
Unless you have a bunch of tablets that you only use occasionally, a shared plan seems like a more expensive way to have data.
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ROFLOL! Thanks for the info... But I'll stick to my current plan... $25 for 2GB... X2 (if I want to) is $50. Why do I want to pay $40+$45 to share on 1GB? That's just like AT&T to force us into a lower plan for more $$$... If you remembered the Unlimited plan for $30, and they forced us to go with $25 for 2GB..
I will have to add ot up for my instance but this NEW plan seems higher for me. I have 4 phones on my plan, mine with the GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA for $30 or $25 (I cannot remember right now) on my SGS2, TWO phones with 2Gbs of data each for the $25, and one dumb phone with no data plan, and ALL share the unlimited mms/sms with 1400 minutes of talk. My bill comes out to about $220 a month after all the taxes and all. I use my UNLIMITED DATA plan to at least the 3Gbs a month before being throttled each month and have kept from being throttled in the last few months as I try to use wifi when downloading anything 100Mbs or more at a time unless I am in teal need of getting something downloaded right now.
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I will have to add ot up for my instance but this NEW plan seems higher for me. I have 4 phones on my plan, mine with the GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA for $30 or $25 (I cannot remember right now) on my SGS2, TWO phones with 2Gbs of data each for the $25, and one dumb phone with no data plan, and ALL share the unlimited mms/sms with 1400 minutes of talk. My bill comes out to about $220 a month after all the taxes and all. I use my UNLIMITED DATA plan to at least the 3Gbs a month before being throttled each month and have kept from being throttled in the last few months as I try to use wifi when downloading anything 100Mbs or more at a time unless I am in teal need of getting something downloaded right now.
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If I remembered it right, it's $30 for GRANDFATHERED UNLIMITED DATA.
And I am pretty sure they probably will throttle you for the 20GB plan too. Once you get to a certain GB in the shared plan.
The reality for myself is that I hardly make any calls and basically use this as a portable computer with phone attached if I need it. I use Wifi mostly and as such have used at most 500 megs a month. Usually more like 50. The shared plan would definitely not be helping my wife and I who got 2 gigs for 25$ and the cheapest bucket of family minutes available with no texting. I'd go for a data only plan and pay per minute on calls if I could.
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This is the biggest pile of horse manure from AT&T yet. My wife and I are on a family plan with 550 mins and 2 GB says plan each. I ported both our previous numbers to Google voice, so we basically have unlimited messaging. Unlimited calling since we never go over and have a ton of rollover. So basically for the same 4 GB of combined data and essentially unlimited everything else, we pay 95 after taxes and FAM discount. I really think once our contracts are up, I am going to get the latest gnex and bolt to straight talk or something else.
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. . . I really think once our contracts are up, I am going to get the latest gnex and bolt to straight talk or something else.
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Hmm. That sounds like a good idea.
I can vouch for Straight Talk. I'd much rather pay $500-$650 up front for the phone and pay $45 per month than pay $200 up front for the phone and $100 per month for the next 2 years. Also, you can't get slammed with overages because it's prepaid. If you use around 2GB per month, Straight Talk is a no brainer.
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Just did some quick math...
Straight Talk
$45 per month x 24 months + $650 for phone = $1730 over 2 years
Postpaid AT&T
$100 per month x 24 months + $200 for phone = $2600 over 2 years
Speeds on Straight Talk aren't throttled either, same HSPA+ you get on postpaid. Of course Straight Talk also gives you unlimited voice minutes and texting.
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Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
raduque said:
Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
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Yep.
raduque said:
Hasn't it been proven that Straight Talk will close your account for using too much data?
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How much is too much? If it's 2 gb that's terrible, if it's 10 gb, then that's reasonable. Also how do they stop you from just going in and buying another SIM?
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How much is too much? If it's 2 gb that's terrible, if it's 10 gb, then that's reasonable. Also how do they stop you from just going in and buying another SIM?
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2 GB for $45 a month isn't terrible. If you can keep your usage to <2GB per month and <100MB per day, then it's a no brainer. I've had 200MB days and not gotten flagged or throttled at all. If you're really worried about them closing your account, port your number to google voice first so you don't lose it and activate some random number on your straight talk account.
They block credit card billing info from ordering twice I believe.
nice plan
sweet new plans if you have a large family account and lots of devices!
Currently pay $272 for 4 phones + mifi (add on more for all our ipad's monthly charges here and there) for total of 17gigs worth of data.
Avg usage over last 6months in data is 6.7gigs only too lol
New plan will cost only $237 for 15gigs +unlimited talk and tethering.
seems horrific if you don't have a large family plan. at least you aren't forced onto new plan like Verizon
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Poor att users, I'm so glad I switched to t-mo.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/197755/atandt_pulls_the_plug_on_its_unlimited_data_plans.html
The New AT&T Mobile Data Plans
•· DataPlus is the cheapest plan available, which provides you with 200MB of data for $15 per month, a much better value plan for light data users who pay $30 for the unlimited plan right now. AT&T says that on average, 65 per cent of its customers use less than 200MB per month. If you exceed 200MB in a month, you can get another 200MB for an additional $15.
•· DataPro is the new highbrow mobile data plan from AT&T, which includes 2GB of data for $25 per month, and will charge each additional GB used over this limit at $10. This new plan is designed to replace the outgoing Unlimited plan, as AT&T claims 98 percent of its smartphone customers use on average less than 2GB of data per month.
•· The Tethering plan for iPhones will work only along the $20 per month DataPro plan, and costs an additional $20 monthly. Unfortunately, this extra $20 won't give you any extra GB of data usage, as the 2GB included in the DataPro plan will be shared between your phone and the tethered device. Tethering for iPhones is expected to be available when Apple releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
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So this is only for new customers right? I'm assuming the customers already on unlimited will keep it correct?
sucks for them. $45 a month for 2GB including tethering optionis just ridiculous.
im sure AT&T will force people to switch to this plan eventually like they did the smartphone plans.
FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
agreed I feel sorry for you guys, we get screwed with 3 year contracts, but im ok with that since I pay $30 for 6gb and that includes tethering. To pay an extra $20 and not get an increase in your bandwidth limit sucks.
Ouch.
Maybe my girlfriend's iPhone will have a tragic accident so we can get out of Dodge...
*sad face*
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FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
i don't think the new ETF has taken into effect; i called yesterday and asked how much it would be to get out of my family plan, and the rep gave me numbers based on $175 and not $325; thinking about moving to Sprint (23% discount from employer plus EVO)
also, i don't think this is grounds for getting out of paying ETF since, as of now, customers still have the option to keep current data plans and if they switch, it doesn't renew contract
while this is a bad deal for those who uses data a lot, this is somewhat of a benefit for my dad's iphone (i just checked and since he got the phone, he only uses about 100mb/month) so he can save $15/month
i imagine the unlimited will be grandfathered just like the old 10cent/kb plan i used to have since like 2000
glad ive got the unlimited while it was still available, according to this tiered pricing my bill last month just for data would have been over 50 bucks.
futango said:
So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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Mmmm, considering what ATT is doing here, I'd say Tmo is great. In addition to the fact that you're stuck using Edge, which adds even more value to Tmo.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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you should just call ATT and ask how much it would be if you terminate your contract; you can have an answer directly from them
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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I doubt it because [according to Engadget] current unlimited data subscribers are welcome to keep their $30/mo plan for as long as they'd like, so you're not being forced to change your plan.
When I first read about the change I thought it sounded pretty bad, but I just checked my data usage and I only use just over 1gb a month despite very very heavy web browsing on my phones. If I tethered often or streamed video, I might not like this plan, but I cannot fathom how much web browsing I'd have to do to go over 2gb a month.
If you guys use the wifi tethering feature, they probably won't be able to detect that you are tethering, right?
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
yeah this stinks in a way. but all of us are grandfathered in. this is only for new customers. until you sign a new contract you can keep using the current pricing. but after that...
i've been out of contracct for 4 years now and only use unlocked phones, so i guess i could theoretically stay grandfathered indefinitely.
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What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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They can't unless they built it into the phone. So if you can get froyo on your att nexus you can tether without paying the fee.
All other 2.2 phones will be modified by their respective carriers to "check in" before enabling the built in tether option.
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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This is true. I have used my WinMo phones to tether on at&t for quite some time, beginning with HTC Faraday. Back then I called because I was stupid having problems getting the faraday to tether to my personal computer (The one I tested it on was fine) and the guy was like, you have to buy the tether package for $60/month to get the right cable. I was like no I don't, I did it earlier on another PC. He stammered and was like, well, if you try to access data heavy sites like youtube, it probably won't work. I was like okay w/e...hung up, played around, got it to work, and streamed an episode of Family Guy with no problems just to prove him wrong (once I let it DL. stupid EDGE). I've yet to see an extra charge for my data. (even when I was using the $10 MEdia Net package with a smartphone, which I was with the Faraday)
i going to ride out my grandfathered tmobile plan for as long as i can... $5/month for unlimited 3G data and tether/hotspot
I know this isn't exactly phone specific, but I have been reading a bit about impending data caps for Verizon's network. I have been enjoying my Wifi-Tether a lot lately without worrying about paying an absolute ridiculous amount for it. I have read in the past that a change in service allows you the opportunity to get out of your contract. Does anyone know if this is true or will apply if data caps are implemented?
Engadget Article
engadget.com/2010/07/20/verizon-switching-to-atandt-style-limited-data-plans-later-this-mo/
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grimez said:
I know this isn't exactly phone specific, but I have been reading a bit about impending data caps for Verizon's network. I have been enjoying my Wifi-Tether a lot lately without worrying about paying an absolute ridiculous amount for it. I have read in the past that a change in service allows you the opportunity to get out of your contract. Does anyone know if this is true or will apply if data caps are implemented?
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If the data caps/tiers happen, this is what will happen.
1) Current users who have the unlimited plan will keep it. You might lose it if you change phones, but if you don't change your plan, then you can probably keep unlimited, but I think if you make any changes to your plan, like number of minutes, texts, etc, you will lose the unlimited data.
2) New customers will have to get tiered plans.
If they forced current unlimited plan holders to change to tier plans, you would be able to get out of your contract ETF free. So to prevent this they will not do this if you have unlimited now. Many people would go to other networks besides ATT and Verizon where they can get unlimited data or cheaper rates.
Sure but you would most likely be grandfathered in, which means that it wouldn't matter. It also means you wouldn't be able to cancel without an etf.
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TNS201 said:
1) Current users who have the unlimited plan will keep it. You might lose it if you change phones, but if you don't change your plan, then you can probably keep unlimited, but I think if you make any changes to your plan, like number of minutes, texts, etc, you will lose the unlimited data.
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I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
djkms said:
I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
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I don't think you should be worried. This tiered data plan isn't even confirmed by verizon yet. Nobody really has solid information on what could happen.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but because you signed a contract previous to when this happened..you will have available all options that you signed at the time-including minutes, txt, etc. The changed plan does not go into effect until you resign your contract.
This kind of thing happened when they forced everyone to choose either a 9.99 internet plan for dumbphones and 29.99 internet for smartphones regardless of they wanted internet or not. Those who had current contracts at the time were not affected. I guess I will just buy phones at off contract prices when my time is up so I can avoid signing a capped contract.
My guess is, after your current contract expires you will be forced into a tiered data plan, even if you are paying month to month with no changes.
When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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My guess is, after your current contract expires you will be forced into a tiered data plan, even if you are paying month to month with no changes.
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Problem is that Verizon's previous actions in cases such as this contradict that assumption. It is far more probable that the tiered data will only come into play when a new contract is signed- such as what transpired with 3G "multimedia" phones.
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When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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That's interesting because all the smartphones now require unlimited data plan. Maybe it was assumed for your contract? That would have been odd for you to get no data plan lol
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I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
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No because you already agreed to the contract before hand. When you changed your plan minutes, you agreed to everything that was within that agreement at that time. They cannot change it now.
I don't think minor changes within your plan (even phone upgrades) will constitute losing your unlimited given we are grandfathered in...
For example...my mom had a $14.99/450-minute plan probably...12 years or so ago...she didn't lose it until about 2007 when she upgraded to a family share plan to add my dad and sister. During that time she had upgraded her phone a few times and added a text package without losing her base minute package.
I think we'll be ok....but I have my fingers crossed :-\
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Damnnnnnn. I was twelve then...i thought there was only beepers then...haha
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Damnnnnnn. I was twelve then...i thought there was only beepers then...haha
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Haha I remember it being some POS AudioVox with tiny little useless calculator-like screen and big antenna
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alexdw369 said:
I don't think minor changes within your plan (even phone upgrades) will constitute losing your unlimited given we are grandfathered in...
For example...my mom had a $14.99/450-minute plan probably...12 years or so ago...she didn't lose it until about 2007 when she upgraded to a family share plan to add my dad and sister. During that time she had upgraded her phone a few times and added a text package without losing her base minute package.
I think we'll be ok....but I have my fingers crossed :-\
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The only reason you would lose the unlimited plan is if you removed the phone from that line and activated it on another, it's a grandfathered feature that runs independent of the calling plan. Meaning if you change the base rate you can continue on unlimited data. And yes, I work for Verizon
Even the current "unlimited" is truly not unlimited. I do believe there is a 5gb cap but you have to cross it a couple of months in a row before you hear about it.
All carriers are going to tiered models and for the average user it will save them money. I forget which carrier released the information but the average smartphone users only uses like 200mb a month. So for these users their rates may go down if they picked up a 200mb or 500mb plan. The power users will stick with the same thing they have but the cap will be official now.
So in short from what I have read really not much of a change from the current unless you are looking for a cheaper plan because of your usage.
this should clear up some stuff for now.. it looks like we are good..atleast till LTE comes out!
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/verizon-wireless-no-big-rush-to-tiered-data-plans-for-now/37147
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Even the current "unlimited" is truly not unlimited. I do believe there is a 5gb cap but you have to cross it a couple of months in a row before you hear about it.
All carriers are going to tiered models and for the average user it will save them money. I forget which carrier released the information but the average smartphone users only uses like 200mb a month. So for these users their rates may go down if they picked up a 200mb or 500mb plan. The power users will stick with the same thing they have but the cap will be official now.
So in short from what I have read really not much of a change from the current unless you are looking for a cheaper plan because of your usage.
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It is a 5gb cap, but they wont pursue bothering you unless they can tell you are tethering. If you legitly use that much on your phone, you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing changing right now is the hotspot and mbb connect plans to the 2 gbfor 20.00 the smartphone plans Stays unlimited . Nothing has been mentioned on going tiered smartphone a la iPhone .
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When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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trust me it would have been on your bill and it wouldn't have been the cheap version... I tried to get my omnia with no data because I could just block internet connection on my motorola Q and not have any charges but they do no allow this anymore with the new smartphones
but eventhough I figured out a way to order it online without having to agree to a data plan the bill showed up with a 52/mo charge for corporate unlimited data... I called them and they said oh our mistake we should have charged you for the 30/mo... they just tried to pull a fast 12 bucks off of me but I actually read my bill
I know it is a sensitive topic, but I'm so frustrated with ATT, and was wondering if I could get any directions from you guys.
I bought for my wife new Aria (full price) so she can collaborate with me without using her brain. Few days after the change I realized att changed her unlimited data plan to tiered one. That move really pissed me off, and I had to switch her back to old nokia to preserve unlimited plan. I used to have an iphone with this plan (unlimited data for $15/month), and it looks like they are enforcing new, more expensive plans not only on new customers, but also on existing ones.
Enough said... I would like to get some hints on changing imei, so I get to keep my old plan...
Thanks
Not 100% sure but just swap the sim and it should work. ATT are assholes for doing away with unlimited data made the mistake of losing my unlimited data plan when the iPhone 4 was released thanks iphone!
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I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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Post this same info on ATT's Facebook.
Same thing happened to me, I went from an iPhone to the Aria, and had the unlimited data removed, put a post on ATT's facebook, and within the day, I was talking to a guy who gave it back, credited my account, and gave me an additonal discount, to make my bill cheaper.
Interesting... if that's what they did to you then I may actually get somewhere. I just pulled the plug on one line to get G2 from tmo, and may threaten to close another line if they refuse to keep my plan...
If it comes to sim swap then it won't work with att branded phones. The only thing that may work (it worked with my old line) is to use unlock phone and ask them to update imei. They will mark your line as unlocked phone and never update your plan again. It worked for iphone...
Thx for your input.
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How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.
Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.
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How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.
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You sound like att spokesperson addressing all dumbasses that purchased smartphone thinking it will make them look smarter. Your data usage statistics are off, and just because you ask your customers about their data usage, it doesn't mean it makes you right. I have observed the data usage by mobile devices in the enterprise I manage in the past 3 years. It seems people spend more time using internet driven apps when their experience improves. That pretty much means the faster mobile network becomes the more bandwidth is consumed. Another huge impact on data usage comes from pushed advertisement. People love free apps, but in order to support brightminded developers those apps have to display small banners. lets do quick math here... each banner is about 5KB. Popular apps rotate them in intervals of 10s, or display new ad whenever you go to new page. If your phone supports multitasking, for example new iphone, then if you don't close the app (for example weather app) it may actually keep rotating those ads in the background eating up your bandwidth. That's 5KB every 10s throughout billing cycle gives us total of about 1.3GB each month. That's based on single app that probably won't be running 24/7, but you may have few of such apps running at the same time, so this will definitely bring you close to that number.
Now, lets talk about 4G, and your assumption of all carriers going with tiered plans. I've been enjoying my G2 over HSPA+ so much. You tube videos are actually in visible quality now. Those very same videos over att 3g were just a joke, and waste of time. What do you think how much bandwidth those HQ videos consume? How about video calls? How about flash driven apps? Limiting users to tiered plans would mean blocking all those services, and worse it would bring technology development for mobile devices to a halt (at least in US).
Mobile carriers are facing very hard times. There is more bandwidth demand than they estimated. ATT for example chose greed, and decided to oversubscribe their infrastructure hoping iphone will save them. Verizon however, invested in their network to ensure they can handle the growth. They all should be thankful to Apple for stealing the name "smartphone", and introducing it to masses in the form of a dumbphone. That move changed the industry, and right now we're all paying for it through higher cost, development by spending more time rooting devices than coding new apps, and reliability. I love my mac, but I hate Jobs for the iphone so much...
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Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.
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Aria is the only woman friendly (small) android phone that supports att 3G. I paid for it $300 (new). Legacy, which seems to be pretty much same phone is $200 more, and doesn't support att 3g frequencies. It looks like att is getting better in cat/mouse game. I may just have to threaten to leave, to get something done...
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.
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didn't realize you came from a non-smartphone. I came from a Fuze (touch pro), so i was already on the $30 unlimited smartphone plan. I made the phone switch right after they announced the end of unlimited plans, and just swapped the phone on my own. Their system caught it, changed my profile on AT&T's site, but did nothing to the plan. I still have the unlimited plan, and will be keeping it as i foresee my usage staying hight.
Do what i did.
Change the sim into a dumb phone and turn it on, wait about an hour, then log into your account online. The options for the medianet packages will reappear. Remove the smartphone data plans then enable the medianet plan for unlimited data. After switch the sim back to the smart phone, if you get a text or email saying they detected your smartphone just call them up and tell them you do not have a smartphone and give them the IMEI number of the dumb phone and have them remove the data and restore the medianet.
I know its a bit much to lie to them but it is robery that pay as you go data is $2 per 1MB, $15 for 200MB and $25 for 2GB when the service sucks inside any building in lower Manhattan.
joshua54 said:
I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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this is what i did.
I called cancellation dept, and they still refused to roll my old plan back
Going back to my initial request... Any hints on changing imei?
Thanks
Is it doable at all?
I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
Thanks
So... I've done more research, and seems people are saying it is illegal to change imei... Illegal???? I think, if changing/spoofing for criminal activities then it is illegal. Carriers clearly abuse that id to rip more money from people. Where is the government to protect us? I wouldn’t mind, if there was an alternative, but there is none. How come I pay full price for the smartphone, and can’t deny data plan? I want to roam through local hot spots offered for free by my cable provider to sync phone instead of X fuc…ing G!!!! I think it is time for people to start filing complaints with FCC...
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I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
Thanks
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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.
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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.
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I'm afraid you're wrong, and this is why. I've had iphone 3gs on unlimited data plan ($15/month) for over a year. Before that I had Nokia N95 (which is still much smarter than iphone 4) on the same plan also for about a year.
You're saying they monitor bandwidth usage... How come they never picked up on my international SIP calls, and radio streaming? and yes, spoofing will get me somewhere. ATT holds only imeis from att branded/approved phones. If my imei is not found they assume it is simple multimedia phone. How do I know that? I talked to cancellation dept manager two days ago, and was ensured I will get my plan back once my imei doesn't match any of those from att smartphone lineup.
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Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
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So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Well, not exactly. I've had that plan since gen 1 iphone, which was running on Edge, and three months later I switched to n95 3g. Basically I'm trying to retain my old data plan, and that's because I have not received any special treatment, or services in order to pay more... If they rolled out LTE, and use that for justification then I would agree.
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edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Better off????? 2 year contract means locked in with old technology. Those contracts don't do any good to people. By signing, you let att screw you any way they want. You can't walk away, or negotiate. If I wasn't tied up with the contract when att announced new plans, then I would switch to verizon long time ago... If you are real smartphone user then you better off buying unlocked phone, and use it the way it was designed to use without extra fees (tethering $60 ), but if you are one of those guys thinking "smartphone will make me look smarter", then your best bet is to buy discounted phone with the contract.
Just saw a commercial for 10 dollar 4g plan. Anyone know what that plan is? Is it a lower data cap or is it just a "free" sample kind of deal?
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Its going to replace the current 15 dollar plan its 200 mb if you go over it .10 per mb with a 30 dollar overage cap. So if you used a ton you would end up paying 40 in total. So I would start with the unlimated for one month see how much you use. If under 200 mb just do the 10 I don't think its out yet though.
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its out but with 3000 min plan
On t-mobile, new customers receive the 10 dollar 200mb option. Existing customers must switch to the promo version if the even more plans (even if they are on an even more plan currently). This promo plan is the only version available to new customers.
For existing customers I call the 200mb feature the 15 dollar web because that is how much it costs if you don't change to the newer plans.
Switching to the 10 dollar web plans does extend the contract on ALL lines on your account but doesn't affect your upgrade dates.
The best plan in my opinion is the 4g do more 3000 min promo plan for 149.99. 3k minutes, unlimited text for the family, and unlimited 4g web for 2 phones. Additional lines are only 5 bucks to share minutes. I've been off since sunday but I'm pretty sure this 3k plan is still available. On this 3k promo plan unlimited 4g web is only 20 dollars per line including additional lines.
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Also.. This 3k plan does require at least 2 phones to have unlimited data.
Also keep on mind.. This isn't very obvious to even sales reps.. But smartphones like the g2 and the mytouch 4g are considered premium smartphones so they do require the unlimited web in order to receive their rebates. The tag says data plan required but t-mobile's internal says that the unlimited feature is required for rebates. This can be very confusing because you are given the option of the 200mb feature on all phones.
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I called today and switched two of our five lines to the $10/mo 200mb data plan- my G2 and my boyfriend's Vibrant. We don't live in or near a 4G area (or 3G or Edge for that matter) and since we're mostly on wifi, and don't use much cell data, it made sense and saves us $40/mo. If we do go over, its capped $-wise at what we were paying, so no big deal.
Our contract was not extended, and the rep was very helpful.
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You must have already been on the promo version of the even more plan.. How long ago did you start the current plan that you are on? The 10 dollar feature is not offered I the system to previous plans.
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Additional lines are only 5 bucks to share minutes. I've been off since sunday but I'm pretty sure this 3k plan is still available.
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The $5 add a line ended on Tuesday....its back to $10 add a line now. The 4G 3k plan is still up and running though.
Feel free to do whatever you want. My advice is stick with the unlimited data plan. The first time you go over your gonna be really really sorry.
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You must have already been on the promo version of the even more plan.. How long ago did you start the current plan that you are on? The 10 dollar feature is not offered I the system to previous plans.
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we have 5 lines, 750 min even more plan, $15 unlim family texting, unlim data on one line, 200mb on three lines (now) and no data on the last line, family allowances and insurance on three lines.
I plead the case that we don't get 4G or even 3G where we live and use wifi most of the time, which the rep could see from past billing cycles, and it was rather unfair for us to have to pay for something that TMo cannot provide, and that we do not/can not use.
she made the change retro to the beginning of this current billing cycle and was very nice about it.
like I explained before, we have been paying for unlim data on the two lines that were changed, so saving money is a bonus. if we go over, it won't be by much, so no matter what, the bill will always be less than it used to be.
These new plans are to get you off the unl everything and will end up costing you more in the end. Keep up with the two giants and you will see what tmo is doing. Its all compitition. Plans like these are the reason why at&t sit where they are. Number 1 wireless carrier. Vzw has been on at&t's ass for awhile now and with the iphone coming in? Customer base may increase significantly. Give tmo some cool phone and better data and they too can have a good customer base.
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mdayjr said:
These new plans are to get you off the unl everything and will end up costing you more in the end. Keep up with the two giants and you will see what tmo is doing. Its all compitition. Plans like these are the reason why at&t sit where they are. Number 1 wireless carrier. Vzw has been on at&t's ass for awhile now and with the iphone coming in? Customer base may increase significantly. Give tmo some cool phone and better data and they too can have a good customer base.
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How do you figure att is #1? cuz of the iphone? Big red has more users.
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The $5 add a line ended on Tuesday....its back to $10 add a line now. The 4G 3k plan is still up and running though.
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Add a line is still 5 on the 3k plan. I have a feeling many of you work for magenta, and if this is true you should know your price plans better.
There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.
Is tethered hotspot a non option?
Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.
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Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.
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Your not wrong. Back in September, I contacted the company that makes FoxFi and asked them if they were going to update pdaNet to work with Motorola phones running Kit Kat on Verizon's network. This was before the Turbo but it relates to all Motorola phones:
Here was their reply:
At this point we do not know if a solution exists around the WiFi blockage but we will keep looking. A solution has only been found for Samsung, LG or HTC phones, just not Motorola.
You can only use bluetooth mode or USB mode.
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Now you know why is bumming me out, all my previous smartphones I made informed decisions, with the Turbo it was an impulse buy. The phone exceeded my expectations but I failed to do the research into a feature that is very important to me, my wife's Note 3 has hotspot , is not a total disaster but it burns me up.
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There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.
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Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.
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Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.
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You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.
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You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.
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Exactly. The fact that Verizon charges extra for activating the hotspot feature on tiered data plans is plain wrong, and will be made illegal when the new net neutrality laws fall in place.
I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.
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I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.
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Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
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Coronado is dead said:
Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
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Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.
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Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.
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Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
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Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
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You can't have a 5GB limit on an unlimted plan. Unlimited means unlimited, even the government agrees on this: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/11/01/federal-government-to-att-wireless-unlimited-data.aspx
Well I am glad to see they finally cracked down on that, because for years unlimited did not really mean unlimited at all, lol.
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Verizon start messing with the unlimited plan back in July of 2011. That is when they first started trying to charge extra for using the hot spot option. Back then it was an additional $30 a month for unlimited use of the hot spot. So you would have had to pay $30 a month for unlimited data and then another $30 a month for unlimited data using hot spot.
Have you seen their latest price structure:
1 GB $40 (Considered Light Usage)
2 GB $50 (Considered Heavy Usage) * Seriously? The Turbo can use that much doing nothing.
3 GB $60
4 GB $70
10 GB $80
15 GB $100 (Was 12 GB)
20 GB $150
30 GB $225
40 GB $300
50 GB $375
60 GB $450
80 GB $600
100 GB $750
No wonder they keep trying to get rid of us unlimited plan users. My unlimited plan is less than the 1 GB plan.
I currently have the 15gb plan, 3 lines,a 4g hotspot device, unlimited talk and text, edge plan on the turbo, ensurion, caller ID, and premium visual voicemail all for $208 a month after taxes. 15gigs seems to be enough for me but if I could I would use much more.
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All of the new tiered data plans (the more everything plans) include tethering for no additional charge. You are on a "legacy" plan that technically no longer exists because it is from a time when not everybody and their dog had a smartphone. You have an option to change that. If there was no tethering when you got your plan then quit living in the stone age. It is perfectly legal for them to change the terms when asking you to sign a new contract. If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
Yeah it sucks that we all lost unlimited data, but thats they way it is. Your laptop has the capability of pulling WAY more data than any smartphone in the world. There is a reason they don't want you tethering on an unlimited plan. People using it for torrenting, and netflixing on their 60 inch TV have potential to ruin the network quality for everybody else.
Like I said, I have tethered in the past too with third party apps, but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it. If they catch you in the act they can do anything from blocking your workaround, to completely dropping you and not allowing you to use their network anymore. I've never heard of it happening, just saying it can. I sell VZW, AT&T, and Sprint service on a daily basis I have read every one of those contracts word for word, and third party tethering apps are very specifically prohibited which makes any other argument a moot point. You signed a paper that said you wouldn't tether without paying for that right.
It's also a straight up fact that 98% of people who got booted from unlimited plans were using less than 2GB per month anyway. It's only people like us here on XDA that are heavy users like that, and our abuse of the system is the entire reason they took away unlimited in the first place. If people hadn't been watching 100GB of netflix and pornhub every month on their smartphones then maybe it would never have become an issue. It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.
renegadeone8 said:
If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
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Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
renegadeone8 said:
but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it.
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Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
renegadeone8 said:
netflixing
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Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
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It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.
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Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?
Ally Android said:
Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?
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This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.
renegadeone8 said:
This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.
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Wifi Hotspot is a native application that Verizon BLOCKS, it is not a third party app.
This is how a Verizon contract should read: Whatever we say is legal because we say so, whatever you think: is wrong, illegal and you the customers are thieves, the only one allowed to steal is Verizon period.
There you go is that better now?