I'm not sure if anyone has seen this slightly strange problem with the Nike design.
I was investigating why my Orange UK Nike battery life was poor, and why I was getting some strange call answer behaviour (the phone would only ring once before answering, and spontaneous ring my last number dialled!). I have a belt buckle case with a magnetic clip that I keep my Nike in when at work. I discovered that when I put the nike in the case, it always wakes up from standby, even if it was locked.
I then put the Nike turned off and locked with the slider closed, next to the magnet on the case and found that not only turned on, but also went straight to the grey options screen (that say new email, new sms etc).
It therefore seems that the slide sensor is magnet activated, and therefore everytime I put it in the case it would turn on and stay active, therefore killing the battery. As all the buttons were then active, the call button was also activated in the case (mostly calling my wife on a regular basis!)
Has anyone else seen this?
does it with a samsung D500 mobile as well
i use strong magnets for inspection at work and whenever i am holding it close to my pocket i hear the sound of the slider going up and down (even though it doesnt move in my pocket)
Hi,
I tried it and yes... I have the same behaviour when I hold a magnet near the HTC logo.
Thanks for the replies. I guess people should avoid buying cases with magnetic clips.
neatly solved
i noticed this behaviour on the second day and returned my belt case and got a full refund at t for telecom store. used the phone without protection for 2 months now. today met representative from htc and spoke of this problem. he immediately gave me one of his own leather cases with velcro! great service!
I remember the HTC Wizard also had the same problem as it used magnets for the slideout keyboard as well.
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Hi,
When i first setup my Exec using personal mode, the answer and hangup buttons on the hinge woudl illuminate when a call came in (when the unit is closed like a laptop). Now i am using it in corporate mode, the LED's don't illuminate. They only illuminate when the screen is rotated into PDA mode.
I am assuming this is a reg hack. Does anybody know what it is? or has anybody else got this problem?
Cheers
Paul
They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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And very annoying it is too - especially when both buttons look so similar when not illuminated. This must be hackable?
This has got to be one of the most annoying features of the exec.
Also i have found that if the device is closed, MSVC does not recognise anything you say when activated via BT.
I have never really played with the device in personal mode as the GUI is bollox so cannot comment on if the buttons light up or not when the device is closed. But what i do know is that when it is closed the screen is switched off as if the device is in standby mode, maybe this has something to do with it.
I try to memorize the position of the green button in relation to how I always hold the phone and feel for it like a Braille board. So far I get it 75% of the time.
is anybody using the 'Personal' install on their exec? can they confirm if the LED's are illuminated or not when the phone rings when it is closed?
Cheers
Paul
Someone who's actually opened the Universal may be able to confirm this, but I suspect that the answer/hang up buttons on the hinge don't actually have LED's. I believe that they simply use the light from the screen's backlight to illuminate. As near as I can tell, they're only on when the screen backlight is on.
If that is the case, then there probably won't be a way to get them to illuminate when the case is closed, unless someone can figure out how to get the backlight to stay on when the case is closed (which would also be a big battery waster)
Brett
Yup, i can confirm this. I've just removed the cover on the top of the hinge. There is one wrapped cable coming out of the base at the right hand side. This then splits off, the main part goes up into the pivot hole, and a thinner wrapped wire brakes away from this and attaches to a small pcb which has the buttons and the LED's mounted on it.
Yes, the buttons are only illuminated when the backlight is on, but the brightness of the buttons remains constant even when the backlight brightness is turned down.
Cheers
Paul
As far as I see it, even if the backlight has to come on that wouldn't be a problem - after all, the phone is waking up in order to ring. I also often open up the screen slightly to see who's calling, then close it and press the answer button - therefore switching on the backlight initially would actually save time!
Maybe somebody knows of a "wake-on-ring" hack :lol:
I've just noticed it with my new Qtek 9000 and I was very worried, because I thought my device is broken.
But now I know this is "normal", but it's very annoying :?
I wish I had this problem! .. since yesterday my JJ seems to have those lights permanently on even when I switch the device off
Guys, I've made a program that will keep the hinge leds on all the time.
Actually this is an accidental discovery for a program I'm working on for this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37201&highlight=
Those guys want to be able to use the keys and phone functions with the lid closed.
I'll post more in that thread, but basically closing the lid puts the hardware keys in a special state such that they are not responsive at all until the device is woken internally (eg by an incoming phone call). Actually, can someone confirm that the hinge keys work when a call comes in but the lid is closed. I presume they must, since they don't do anything else!
So, the hinge lights are on when the screen is on. But the screen is switched off when the lid reaches about 10 degrees to closing. But the hinge lights can be kept on nevertheless
Grem: are you using TCPMP or a similar program to play music etc in the background? Anything that tries to keep the phone "on" when the lid is closed will keep the hinge lights on.
V
Hi vijay555
I've actually just done a complete cold re-boot and reflashed to the original i-mate factory ROM to see if that would help, then came here in search of anyone having a similar issue.
It started yesterday, i suspect I've had an internal meltdown somewhere, plugged it into sync, noticed a few minutes later it had randomly done a warm reset and appeared stuck on the blue i-mate screen, picked it up and the sucker was hotter than an AMD without a heatsink! I suspect it's warranty time for this unit
Grem, that's worrying. What were you doing at the time? What brand/operator etc is the phone? It might be worth posting batch numbers or whatever for people that have this kind of problem so we can identify if some are worse then others.
V
It's an i-mate straight from the wholesaler no particular operator. Had it a couple of months, have seen other reports on the forum here which sound perhaps similar in that they've overheated.
I am an ex Blue Angel owner, and i have had the Wizard for about 7 months now, and the phone is perfect (size, battery, keyboard), however there is one problem that has been bugging me.
I use the standard case, as i like the format. however when i recieve a phone call and i remove it from the case, the screen 8 times out of 10 turns to landscape then back to portrait, and this prevents me answering the phone for 30 seconds or so until the screen turns back, as the hardware buttons dont respond. However i never figured what cused this, until i read through an unrelated post that it was caused my the magnets in the case. and testing this by waving the case over the surface of the phone reproduces this problem.
now i am stunned that they bundled this case with the phone, and i am in the market of looking for another without the magnets i.e snap button.
does anyone know of an an alternative case that is horizontal that has the same belt clip?
i have seen the Krussel Horizontal Case http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/product.php/21636/3384/, but i dont like the detachable belt clip. as i envisage the phone coming off it unlike a vertical case that has gravity and a low pivot point keeping it steady.
has anyone got any suggestions?
I've got the same probleme with my qtek 9100.
Hi Fuzzy [EDIT: and Alex],
some weeks ago I did a search for HTC Wizard on Froogle, and I found a lot of accessories: aluminium hard-cases, new styluses, loudspeaker mountings, modfied desktop stands...
Case-specific search:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=htc+wizard+case&btnG=Search+Froogle
I am sure there is a case that fits your needs.
Greetz
Raubi
unfortunately i have looked through all the 8 pages of hits and there is not a case that is suitable. the nearest to what i want is a case made by sena http://www.senacases.com/cart/home.php?cat=413 however it itself has a magnetic clasp, so will most likely result in the same problem
I want a case like the original with same type of belt clip and without a magnetic clasp. Does anyone have or use such a case, or can confirm that the sena cases arent afflicted with the same problem.
Turn your phone over!!!
When you put the phone in the OEM case, have the screen facing your body (away from the magnetic clasp). This will accomplish 2 things:
1. Prevents the magnet from activating Landscape Mode.
2. Provide extra protection from direct impact for your screen.
I have always done this and never experienced the Landscape issue.
For me that doesnt work, infact it makes it worse i've just removed the phone like that from the case a few times and it change orientation every time. the magnet is contained in the flap and it triggers the screen change every time weather it brishes past the back or the front of the phone.
I have just bought the Krussell case from my first post after not succeeding finding an alternative, i think that with a belt clip it will be unsafe and will stick out much further than the original case, however it does have loops to loop belts through, so that may be the tradeoff i need.
I will let you know how i get on when i recieve the case next week.
what i am most surprised at is either HTC or the mobile carriers not picking up on the problem and selecting a different case.
but the one thing i have figured is that if the magnet is contained purely on the pouch and not the flap (i.e. the flap has metal in it) then this problem would not happen. and if i twisted the phone away from the case when removing it... and ...and ...and..... there would probably be lots of ways to get around it not happening, but in the real world in everyday use when i remove the phone it does happen and it causes me to miss lots of phone calls...
My Vario II (on T-Mobile UK) is driving me crazy dropping calls. The problem manifests itself most often on receiving calls. What happens is that the phone will ring and I will press either the green "pick up" button or the "answer" onscreen prompt. The call drops and the caller is sent to my voicemail.
It's happening on more than 50% of calls. I have a strong signal in the locations this has happened in. I also put the SIM in my old Nokia 6230i and it worked fine for a day. No dropped calls. So I'm inclined to blame the device.
It does not cut off very often or in any unsatisfactory way when I have initiated the call.
I also have a problem whereby the green pick up button does not answer the call. In factr, all the lower buttons randomly stop working from time to time (at least every other day) requiring a soft reset to make them work again. (I have not locked the keys on the device by the way).
Does anyone have any suggestions - should I consider a radio rom upgrade or get the device exchanged? I dont want to invalidate my warranty...
Thanks,
antlion
Mine does this too. You press the answer button, the screen says "Connected", but I can't hear anything. I'm assuming the caller can actually hear me saying "Hello, Hello" because they don't hang up straight away.
antlion
What's your S/N no Htxxx? I think buttons not working seems like a hardware fault !
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I gooiing to try to use the phone for a couple of days without the original leather case... I think it goes that days much better!
I have the same problems... and also my screen goed from landscape to portrait mode when I get my phone out of his case...
I have read that the two strong magnets in the case causes this troubles!
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antlion
What's your S/N no Htxxx? I think buttons not working seems like a hardware fault !
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ht642f211427 - can you tell anything from that?
smarty77 said:
I gooiing to try to use the phone for a couple of days without the original leather case... I think it goes that days much better!
I have the same problems... and also my screen goed from landscape to portrait mode when I get my phone out of his case...
I have read that the two strong magnets in the case causes this troubles!
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i do use the case all the time. I did notice that the magnets are quite strong. Do you have a link to any information about the effect of the magnets?
I was thinking of geting one of those nice vaja cases but they have magnets too...
The magnets won't really do anything, their effects are too localised for any damage to occur. The only reason your screen flips is because the magnet sensor used inside the actual device is very sensitive.
imho.
I've had problems in the past with calls either dropping or going to voicemail when I've picked up - sometimes this is either because I've picked up JUST as the other person has gotten bored and hung up, and the phone still thinks they're on the line (that's just rotten luck) or it's due to some heavy CPU usage at the time (methinks).
That said, I had an HT634 before, and my two day old, replacement handset (HT643) hasn't done it yet... But again, I've not made or received that many calls since I got it. Not noticed any problems yet... I have been more cautious about what software I install on it too. It has to be something screwing with the events association (you know, 'on call do xyz' and that could be taking up valuable cpu cycles). Had this problem a lot more on my Alpine, also noted that if someone rang me it took almost half a second usually for the line to be properly connected - I still wait a little bit before speaking when i pick up on my Hermes, and I have a feeling that the delay is still there.
Meh.
I've decided to test the SIM in my old Nokia 6310i for a couple of days to see if that drops calls. If it doesn't then I'm going to RMA the handset back to T-Mobile and get a replacement.
Just looking around as my T-Mobile Vario 2 drops around 50% of calls on answer too.
I thought it was a hardware issue at first but having tried the software "button" for a week, I am experiencing the same problems.
Any calls I make are fine, calls that I answer satisfactorily are good too, in fact, the quality of calls is excellent. Much better than my XDA mini s was (very "lumpy" quality on that one!)
Any body found a solution?
I've had an issue with my Wizard since the day I bought it. Every so often if I remove my Wizard from its pouch on my belt and switch it on out of standy by, the screen is in landscape mode and then only after 1 or 2 seconds returns to the normal upright position. Now at first I thought that as I remove it from the pouch, perhaps I open the slide slightly and then push it back as I get it into position in my hand...not the case however...
Then I started thinking, How does the Wizard know that the slide is being opened? I checked the Service Manual and there is no physical switch (at least not that I can see) so perhaps it is done with Magnitism or Induction on the upper part and lower part of the slide.
Only then I got to the conclusion that my pouch has got two magnets that keeps it closed (original pouch that came with my device..Qtek 9100) perhaps as I move the Wizard out of the pouch the magnets interfere with the Wizard's slide-open-closed magnetic "switch"....?
Has anyone got the same problem? It does not bother me all that much I would just like to know if I am all alone and/or am I going crazy?
Tip-Ex said:
I've had an issue with my Wizard since the day I bought it. Every so often if I remove my Wizard from its pouch on my belt and switch it on out of standy by, the screen is in landscape mode and then only after 1 or 2 seconds returns to the normal upright position. Now at first I thought that as I remove it from the pouch, perhaps I open the slide slightly and then push it back as I get it into position in my hand...not the case however...
Then I started thinking, How does the Wizard know that the slide is being opened? I checked the Service Manual and there is no physical switch (at least not that I can see) so perhaps it is done with Magnitism or Induction on the upper part and lower part of the slide.
Only then I got to the conclusion that my pouch has got two magnets that keeps it closed (original pouch that came with my device..Qtek 9100) perhaps as I move the Wizard out of the pouch the magnets interfere with the Wizard's slide-open-closed magnetic "switch"....?
Has anyone got the same problem? It does not bother me all that much I would just like to know if I am all alone and/or am I going crazy?
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This is due to the pouch having a magnet in it, that makes the PPc think that you have pulled out the keyboard, as the phone as a small magnet so it knows when to change and when not to!!!
That is what i thought... thanx for confirming this..
Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
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Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
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I think you'll be able to press the keys, but it wont be as good as without the case. As you said, you'll prolly press several buttons at onces and wont get the same feel when typing.
I've used a Prestige case with magnetic closure for a year or more with my AT&T 8525. Never noticed a problem. I'm now using the case with my Tilt, but that's only been a few days. Haven't noticed anything yet, however.
I'm using the PDAir flip case -- the magnetic stud doesn't affect anything. The plastic keyboard cover isn't too bad -- I haven't noticed any problems with multiple keypresses, but it does affect the feel of the keyboard.
I'm looking forward to the Piel Frama case, which should be coming out in the next few weeks. They had a really good case for my old Wizard that used a narrow leather strap & snap to hold the device in the case; you'd unsnap the strap to access the keyboard.
Depends on the magnet strength and location, there have been a few reports of the magnet turning on the phone. The kaiser keyboard uses a magnetic sensor to turn on the phone when the keyboard opens. I'm using a hip holster with mag and not seeing any issue.
I'd say should anyone have the issue, start a thread with brand/model listed for others to avoid.
I have the Seidio case I originally bought for my 8525.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=394
The two magnets would always "trick" the screen into thinking the keyboard was open and switch it to landscape mode. I always had to wait a few seconds for the screen to switch back when I took it out of the case.
This does NOT happen with the Tilt. The screen stays in portrait mode. I have always liked the quality of the case and the magnets in the flap make it easy to open and shut. So now it is my perfect solution.
no issues here
YodaJM said:
Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
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I have been using a case with two magnetic studs on the flip closure for months now and have had zero issues. Bought mine at Fred Meyers and recomend anyone in need of a good black leather horizontal pouch case to check it out. was 15 dollars and is of the same quality and fit as 40 dollar cases you may see online.
cheers
I've been using a Motorola Case designed for the Q9 with my Tilt and it's worked out quite well. It also has a single magnetic stud closure and I have noticed no issues at all.
I bought the PDair Book Type case same week the Tilt first came out here in the U.S. I have had no problems at all. Non of that shutting off by itself thingy people complain about.
Magnetic cases
Some cases cause screen to wake up, some don't. To eliminate the problem just turn off Slide Wake option in registry. When slide wake is enabled opening the keyboard (or getting too close to a magnet) will wake the screen. Turn this option off and you can use magnetic clasps at will.