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Am I the only one that wishes to go back to his MDA/8125?

while I absolutely love this phone - Tytn/8125 ...I'm trying to completely weigh out what exactly it is that I love in a phone. First and foremost I loved coreplayer. it worked awesome and flawless everytime. With the tytn the skips are apparent. I'm on Bootloader 1.09, south africa rom, and the 1.20 radio. I hear this player has an issue with the ati imageon. I could be the guy that waits for the issue with the video player to be solved..or I could act on it now and actually be content with a cheaper device. the skipping jerkey video is probably my only real gripe. this phone is feature packed multimediawise and its gonna be a shame to let it go..but video on my pda is priority and if I'm gonna pay 500 bucks it might as well work without any workarounds. as silly as it may send, but that's the life of a picky phone freak coming from the blackberry 8700, pearl, mda, nokia e61, samsung blackjack, t mobile dash, and even the sidekick 3.
there are so many tweaks that make the mda rock too. especially the page up and down tweak for the volume slider etc. ill miss being able to mms with the palm messaging program but who cares? I guess ill settle with a significantly cheaper device until the next big thing comes out - iphone, blackberry 8900. its been fun. but I'm selling this phone to a lady friend of mine. I guess I should probably try ad figure how to downgrade to the latest cingular rom from this point. is there anything specific I should look out for? technically I could just throw the cingular extended rom cab files in there and she should be fine. but will that void any chance of being taken care of if she took the device to a cingular store? (by the way..its a cingular 8525)

dialekt said:
Am I the only one that wishes to go back to his MDA/8125?
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Short answer, you are the only one. I wrote a long review a while back but heres a recap.
List of what I don't miss...
The over all slowness of the 8125.
EDGE is teh suck, now that 3G is here.
The speakers were very trebbley (if thats a word)
I could not get iGuidance to run for crap on there.
The slider... even with smartkey, its a slider.
Could not play worms, its a favorite bed time game.
Thats a short list and I probably cant even remember half the stuff i use to hate about that device.
Later, Lew

lewcamino said:
I could not get iGuidance to run for crap on there.
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I've never had any issues running iGuidance on my MDA...
I can't wait to get an 8525 though...

I guess so ....just as a simple game may be your favorite thing to play...videos are my favorite..to each his own. It was fun for about a 2 days. But furthermore I think I'll catch the next device. Time to go hunt the Molski treasure.....

On a side note, movies play absolutely fine on my tytn with TCPMP. I have the south African (or wtvr) rom and I skipped the ext rom install and only installed what I wanted from it. I do not get the screen shake issue anymore.
As for iGuidance, pre 3.0 was awful on the 8125, slow to start and slow running in general. I know that there were many issues fixed since then but at the tiem I had my 8125 there was not 3.0 yet, only 2.3.1 or something.
Later, Lew

And after one day....I have bought another 8525. I guess I'll have to really search hard and hope this ATI IMAGEON and Coreplayer issue gets fixed asap. Audio skipping after seeking as well.

dialekt said:
while I absolutely love this phone - Tytn/8125 ...I'm trying to completely weigh out what exactly it is that I love in a phone. First and foremost I loved coreplayer. it worked awesome and flawless everytime. With the tytn the skips are apparent.8525)
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I had a similar problem - try setting your playback method to directdraw in TCPMP. Fixed it right up for me.

what do you guys think???? m600 or hermes?

Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!

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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn

gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!

guilherme said:
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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
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so, how yo finding it?

flashflash said:
I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?

gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price? TIMEO DANOS ET DONA FERENTES, was my mother lesson, have you studied troy story (trojan horse comes from that story)?
May be that phone isn't so requested and why a phone with this great hardware isn't requested?
Lot of stupids... or lot of problems?
My TyTN experience: nice toy to play, hard to put your business on It!
You NEED also to know the serial number, because below HTC638xxxx you will face (odds=50-60% in a poll here) the screen alignment (SA) issue and HTC service....., just search here

The screen alignment problem can be easily fixed. The solution is somewhere in here... But it's just a matter of slinding a credit card type of plastic all around and between the screen and bezel. I fixed mine this way.
However, the TyTN and the Prophet are not too diferent in speed under normal circumstances and except when using Skype where the Prophet lacks a bit.
You can see a "real-life" speed comparisson here (it's in spanish but you will be able to make sense of it): http://www.poderpda.tv/episodio/48
In the end, I ended up liking the TyTN more than the Prophet becasue of Skype performance and the Keyboard it's just fantastic.
Cheers!
Rayan

gibster said:
so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
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Are u kidding? of course not, Tytn is awesome
If you don't like tytn, trinity(P3600) is a good choice, it's a tytn withous keyboard.
Eten has screen alignment problems 2.
Just go to eten-users forum and check the bugs.
Eten no thanks :x

sergiopi said:
But why they are offering a phone with higher street price?
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i was expecting delivery today, and when it didn't come i called the company. it turned out the stupid woman i talked to ordered an sony erricsson m600, so i complained and they said they would send me a tytn instead!
thanks for the comments guys!!! looks like i'll give it a go!

Wizard or Hermes?

Hi guys, new to the forums here, but very glad i did find it! Anyways here's my situation. i just recently got the wizard aka T-mobile MDA from a friend of mine. He didn't keep it in very good condition, but otherwise it works just fine. I have upgraded the phone to WM6 and love the phone! However, it bugs me that the phone looks very worn. I thought about upgrading to the Hermes and selling this phone off or just replacing the case through ebay ( now that i found the instruction manual). Anyways, i can bascially trade this phone AS-IS and 50 bucks more for pretty much a brand new hermes, or spend about that much and risk messing up the phone tryin to put on the new case. What i want to know for all those Hermes and Wizard owners is how much better is the Hermes? i see it has a few more buttons and the added scroll wheel (which i kinda like). But what about the keyboard? which do you prefer. Any help is much appreciated. THX!

had a wizard and absolutely loved it. now got a hermes and couldnt live without it. for me the hermes is far superior. never had to soft reset, easy to upgrade roms thanks to mrvanx quality how tos, quicker (better processor) etc etc...

I prefer the Hermes on so many different levels. The keyboard is a bit easier for me on the 8525 too.
If it'll cost only $50 more, it's an easy decision (it would be for me, anyhow).

soo Hermes? One question i have is with the rom on the Hermes, is it stable? i installed the crossbow 1.7 for the wizard and it seems pretty good and i saw they have an official rom they are about to cook up. Does the Hermes have anything like that?

The original WM5 Rom is fine. But, this is XDA-Developers! So the jump to WM6 is painless and easy. There are many great, cooked ROMs available too (w/ an official WM6 upgrade coming soon).
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soo Hermes? One question i have is with the rom on the Hermes, is it stable? i installed the crossbow 1.7 for the wizard and it seems pretty good and i saw they have an official rom they are about to cook up. Does the Hermes have anything like that?
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One other question, i have a car charger for the wizard, it seems that the plug is the same for the chargers, would this be the case and i can keep the car charger? or do i have buy a new one, also i have a couple of extra stylist for the wizard, would this fit into the Hermes? AH! one more thing, i would love to keep my phone protected, does anyone use a protector case and if so what kind. i want one that wouldn't be a pain with when using the outside buttons. THX

You can use the same charger, no problem. The connections a little different looking on the Hermes, but it'll fit and work normally none the less.
The stylus from the Wizard will work and fit in the Hermes too.
As far as a protector case, I'm not a fan of those at all. I use this...
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/CING8525.html
It's clear and covers the entire body and screen. It's WAY nice. Just a thought though.
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One other question, i have a car charger for the wizard, it seems that the plug is the same for the chargers, would this be the case and i can keep the car charger? or do i have buy a new one, also i have a couple of extra stylist for the wizard, would this fit into the Hermes? AH! one more thing, i would love to keep my phone protected, does anyone use a protector case and if so what kind. i want one that wouldn't be a pain with when using the outside buttons. THX
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i dont know what service you use but you can get a refurbished hermes from cingulars website for $250 bucks with an upgrade or new contract

vitycent said:
Hi guys, new to the forums here ... I thought about upgrading to the Hermes and selling this phone off or just replacing the case through ebay ( now that i found the instruction manual). Anyways, i can bascially trade this phone AS-IS and 50 bucks more for pretty much a brand new hermes, or spend about that much and risk messing up the phone tryin to put on the new case ... THX!
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Question: WHERE are you getting that $50 upgrade? If I could have an unlocked Hermes for $50 I'd be on it like my cat on a gecko (they seem to be his favorite "natural" food!)! I bet it's a new contract, right? grrr ...
Statement #1: The one real beef I have with the Wizard is that the keyboard is not "true" QWERTY, in that the key rows are not "offset" or "crosshatched" like the keys on a standard keyboard. That seemingly small difference drives me nuts and really slows my typing. Hermes, I see from pictures, has the "correct" offset so I'm betting it's easier to get used to.
Statement #2: I'm with TaurusBullba on the Invisible Shield. I have used them on PDAs and GPSr's for a couple of years now, and wouldn't go without one. It might seem steep for what appears to be a bunch of plastic strips with adhesive, but the stuff is pretty tough. Just be patient when applying the pieces and your Wizard or Hermes will come out looking as great as ever.
To tempt you more, I will pass along an email-only discount I got just recently: 20% off all smartphone shields AND 20% off all Cell Phone Shields. Just don't tell 'em where you got it!

Wow cool THX! bascially i found someone local that i could trade my phone with and would pay 50 bucks more for the hermes. Anyways i will definitely check that Invisible Sheild out, it looks Great! and THX some more for the coupon codes you guys have been great here.
moosiegirl said:
Question: WHERE are you getting that $50 upgrade? If I could have an unlocked Hermes for $50 I'd be on it like my cat on a gecko (they seem to be his favorite "natural" food!)! I bet it's a new contract, right? grrr ...
Statement #1: The one real beef I have with the Wizard is that the keyboard is not "true" QWERTY, in that the key rows are not "offset" or "crosshatched" like the keys on a standard keyboard. That seemingly small difference drives me nuts and really slows my typing. Hermes, I see from pictures, has the "correct" offset so I'm betting it's easier to get used to.
Statement #2: I'm with TaurusBullba on the Invisible Shield. I have used them on PDAs and GPSr's for a couple of years now, and wouldn't go without one. It might seem steep for what appears to be a bunch of plastic strips with adhesive, but the stuff is pretty tough. Just be patient when applying the pieces and your Wizard or Hermes will come out looking as great as ever.
To tempt you more, I will pass along an email-only discount I got just recently: 20% off all smartphone shields AND 20% off all Cell Phone Shields. Just don't tell 'em where you got it!
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Thinking of jumping ship...

I've been using WinMo for a few years now - since I got a C500 ( a great device) and I love my Athena BUT it's getting a bit battered and the camera no longer works and I've had it a while. I've also found myself using my C600 because the Athena is, let's face it, a bit of a brick to carry all the time.
I know it's blasphemy but I've actually been looking at the Nokia E90 - has anyone else looked at this and decided to go for it - or not?
Any views on the E90?
Cheers

To be honest, jumping from one OS to another is a tough decision. If you are dependent on 3rd party applications such as myself, then you will have a problem with symbian. If you use the device for it's calendar, phone, editing word, or any built-in application, then switchng to the E90 is the best choice for you.
My first PDA was palm OS, although I love it, switching from Palm to WM was easy because of the availability of 3rd party software that I needed.
Hope this helps...

i got a sony ericsson p1i, symbian uiq 3.0. if im honest, its a great normal phone, and replaced my athena. but it has bugs i cant solve like sms not appearing in the today plugin-like thing. [its basically like spb diary, with pluses for calenday inbox and tasks, but inbox always reads zero even when texts have been recieved, so i have to always check inbox manually]
Anyways, its limited though, you can get the programs you need, but it just isnt wm. when i first got it, it literally made my athena redundant, because of its small size, same camera, and realy because my athena is more for fun. but recently, ive began using my athena again. [on my trip to wigan yesterday i had my athena on for about an hour on the journey, purrely for opera and wlm. uiq3 has opera 8.65 or whatever the last v8 one was installed, and it works wiht finger scrolling and all that, but it just isnt the same as 96dpi 9.5. and things like i cant change the brightness easily, or connect to wlan, and theres about 6 types of gprs/3g connection and half o the time it connects to the wrong one and stuff like that.
so confucious, if you want to downscale in size and other things, then go for the symbian route, but if not, get a touch diamond
as ive said though, im using iuq 3, wheras the e90 has s60 [i think]
Rory

Thanks for the reply - I've just bought a 'refurbished' E90 of fleabay - lets hope it's OK when it gets here!

i hope youre sill gona keep your athena, i will miss your funny remarks if you get rid of it.
and will you post a review or your views on the e90 like someone did ages ago (i think it was eaglesteve)
And how much was it?
Rory

rorydaredkign said:
i hope youre sill gona keep your athena, i will miss your funny remarks if you get rid of it.
and will you post a review or your views on the e90 like someone did ages ago (i think it was eaglesteve)
And how much was it?
Rory
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It was Leoni who posted the review I think.

Would be interexted to see that review but you can't search for e90 and user Roni only has 1 post (there are many other roniXXXs)
I will, of course keep my Athena and will let you know how I get on with my e90 and how it compares - that is, of course, if it arrives and is usable....

Confucious said:
Would be interexted to see that review but you can't search for e90 and user Roni only has 1 post (there are many other roniXXXs)
I will, of course keep my Athena and will let you know how I get on with my e90 and how it compares - that is, of course, if it arrives and is usable....
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I believe this is the thread that is being refered to by Leoni1980
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377022

Phone just arrived, put T-Mob SIM in and it connected straight away to the internet, then I got a text from T with their settings, up and running in no time
Thanks for the link lakeman just reading now.
So far, so good

Yes, this is the review I was talking about. Sorry for leading you down the road by the spelling errors.

Thanks for the replies, eaglesteve, it is far better to reply and make a mistake than not reply at all. Your input, as always, is appreciated.
My E90 turned up today after winning it yesterday morning £171 inc P&P - that was for the phone and battery only - I've ordered a charger and car charger for another £13 but don't have tanything else - won't miss the headphones and software I can download - am I missing anything?
I seem to have a bargain!
So far I really like it

Did someone mention my name???

leoni1980 said:
Did someone mention my name???
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Confucious said:
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My ears pricked up.
Don't forget to upgrade your firmware to enable flash support. It works great on the E90s screen. And get an 8gb micro sdhc from play.com if you don't have one already. I thoroughly recommend coreplayer for symbian too: it works superbly with almost any video you throw at it, including .flv.
And of course Garmin xt for all you'd satnav needs

Ordered 4Gb card cos they are cheap.
The latest firmware doesn't seam to be available - it was up then taken down. I guess I'll find out when it is released!
I use CP7 for SatNav - will have to get them to dort it out so it works on the E90 screen!
Thanks for the advice.

wow! 177 for an e90, i have never looked but always assumed they were more then the athena.
im waiting for your impressions
Rory

they're cheaper than the Athena but 177 is an incredibly low price - I'm impressed.
Ive always been caught up somewhere between a business and a pleasure device, and for me the E90 ticked more boxes than the Athena because as well as push email and document viewing/editing there's a much better camera and video recorder and better flash support from within the browser (not to mention a nicer keyboard for typing on).
With the new touch 4 rom the Athena looks great, and Opera 9.5 is a big step forward but still the E90 has the edge for me.

It was £171 but another £13 for chargers.
Woke up this morning and battery is flat
My charger hasn't arrived yet but can borrow one at work
So far I'm very impressed but got problems getting my cert on it so haven't got Push email working yet.

Confucious said:
Ordered 4Gb card cos they are cheap.
The latest firmware doesn't seam to be available - it was up then taken down. I guess I'll find out when it is released!
I use CP7 for SatNav - will have to get them to dort it out so it works on the E90 screen!
Thanks for the advice.
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You might already know that Copilot 7 is just released for Symbian devices.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/14637/15661/copilot-7-available-symbian-phones.phtml

Yes, i still haven't received my DVD from them but have already downloaded it. I haven't installed it yet as I am waiting for my memory card to turn up!
Apparently it doesn't work properly on the big screen so I've already asked about them fixing that....

debating on hermes, input please?

I have been trying to find a wing and just cant, i stumbled upon a v1605 hermes for 95$ and was curious if that would be a good price for this phone, its unlocked also. currently i have a htc excalibur, but my kid decided it needed a bath so tossed it in the toilet, ive actually got the phone working but it keeps having minor problems. using a cooked rom, know about customizing and all the various crap and wanting an upgrade and just curious if anyone could give me advice on the price and would love to hear if anyone is a past/current dash owner w/ a hermes also.
just unsure if i should bide my time and wait it out with a gimp excalibur until i can pickup a wing or if i should just grab a hermes.
dash i have overclocked and what not, i know the cpu is bigger on the hermes and it looks to have a lot more to play with overall.... but will i be getting my money worth at 95$?

the wing has a 220mhz prossessor, while the 8525 has 400mhz.
The HERMES FTW!!

My english teacher had a Wing, he asked me to do some moddification, if you know what i mean.. And i got to say, the keyboard is a little better, but the phone is really slow trust me. The Hermes is twise as fast. I have the hermes curently, its great, and for the price of 95$ you should get it. I got mine for 200$ and i think that THAt was a good deal. But yeah. Get the Hermes.

Not the leader of the pack anymore but still a solid little device. For the price, WHERE CAN I GET ONE TOO????

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Not the leader of the pack anymore but still a solid little device. For the price, WHERE CAN I GET ONE TOO????
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The wing or the Hermes?

Hermes...
Only HTC I own....
Cheers...