Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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so, how yo finding it?
flashflash said:
I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price? TIMEO DANOS ET DONA FERENTES, was my mother lesson, have you studied troy story (trojan horse comes from that story)?
May be that phone isn't so requested and why a phone with this great hardware isn't requested?
Lot of stupids... or lot of problems?
My TyTN experience: nice toy to play, hard to put your business on It!
You NEED also to know the serial number, because below HTC638xxxx you will face (odds=50-60% in a poll here) the screen alignment (SA) issue and HTC service....., just search here
The screen alignment problem can be easily fixed. The solution is somewhere in here... But it's just a matter of slinding a credit card type of plastic all around and between the screen and bezel. I fixed mine this way.
However, the TyTN and the Prophet are not too diferent in speed under normal circumstances and except when using Skype where the Prophet lacks a bit.
You can see a "real-life" speed comparisson here (it's in spanish but you will be able to make sense of it): http://www.poderpda.tv/episodio/48
In the end, I ended up liking the TyTN more than the Prophet becasue of Skype performance and the Keyboard it's just fantastic.
Cheers!
Rayan
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
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Are u kidding? of course not, Tytn is awesome
If you don't like tytn, trinity(P3600) is a good choice, it's a tytn withous keyboard.
Eten has screen alignment problems 2.
Just go to eten-users forum and check the bugs.
Eten no thanks :x
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i was expecting delivery today, and when it didn't come i called the company. it turned out the stupid woman i talked to ordered an sony erricsson m600, so i complained and they said they would send me a tytn instead!
thanks for the comments guys!!! looks like i'll give it a go!
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I just saw this post about the i-mate jamin or whatever its called, what can I say? Well I am excited very excited!
For ages I have tried to use my i-mate and safecom with no luck and miss the wifi and memory I used to have on the xda IIi also the bluetooth is crap on the jam.
I do hope it is better on the jamin! well I saw this and put an order in for one I just hope its a good ppc and I would say this is going to be BIG thinking that many mobile users will love this with all applications, I hope tomtom 5 runs on it when I get it...
By the way whats happened to the price of the jam on ebay?? it used to be steady? oh well now I can only hope for 100 - 150
I will report on this phone when it is sitting with me..
Also ordered one about two hours ago! 8) :wink:
well I have my JAMin now.
I have been playing with it for a little while. so far I can say I am very pleased with it.
I find the 200mhz enough for what I use it for, a definite upgrade for all JAM users.
as I expected an awesome pda/phone
So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!
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So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!
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Well as regards the Screen Alignment problem I believe this is far less of an issue than it was. I do still see the odd comment though, that someone with a newer device has a problem.
You are obviously not new to the forum and I guess you've looked around the Hermes posts but maybe this one is relevant?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280383&page=5
Might also want to search a bit on video playback issues regarding the likes of Coreplayer (TCPMP) where there have been issues. Also some issues with bluetooth might be worth searching. Wifi range maybe an issue 10-15metres ok but weak over this distance. One or two with slack/loose sliding keyboards - check if possible for firm clicks on open and closed when buying. Less of an issue now but some keyboards have slightly unresponsive keys - work but need very firm or firmer press again check on purchasing if possible.
Just some thoughts, despite any niggles a great device.
Mike
Thanks for your reply. As for software issues, i've read posts about them and figured thats something i'd deal with when i get the device, i'm mainly concerned about hardware issues. Wifi is pretty useless to me on a daily basis because i have the unlimitted data package, which i abuse to the MAX! that brings another question, hows the batter with a data connection always on? because the nokia N80 doesn't last through the day with its UMTS bands on.
The sliding mechanism, even if i knew nothing about the device, thats something i'd automaticly check, the sliding integrity. Also i remember about 2 months ago reading about issues with the sticky/hard keys, i'll check that out as well, but pretty sure most stores won't let me put the battery in it till i pay and after that i have to deal with the company that the device's warranty is under.j
i'm gonna do some more snooping around in the hermes thread but what bluetooth issues are you talking about specifically? i don't use a bt headset, but i might buy a stereo one if the battery can handle about 4 hours of music playback a day. Also that fossil/sony ericsson BT watch looks pretty neat, might grab one of those as well, but i just treated myself to a Concord Saratoga with the chronographs 3 days ago so don't need another watch
Thank you mike for your input and i'm really excited to get this device! i'm supposed to attend 2 christmas parties tonight, pretty sure i'm either going to be in the corner playing with my JasJam or at my parents place watching it charge!
Happy playing with new toy!
The bluetooth thing is more software than hardware, the following will give you some idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1079019
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287100&highlight=stack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287210&highlight=stack
I cannot really summarise as I don't really use bluetooth myself.
Mike
Thanks for your replies, i skipped my best friends X-Mas dinner to go buy my Hermes... haha, its ok he's a tech freak as well and he'll understand. Just plugged in my baby into the charger and my girlfiends jealous already so can't touch it for 8 hours... so my girlfriend will keep me occupied till then
Now i've got to figure out which is the best rom and and whats the best case for me... i don't want to put a scratch on this thing, unlike my K-Jam which looked like it went through a war!!
Thanks again, heading over to the upgrading and accessories thread to bug some people there
fone_fanatic
Congrat's m8 ..how much did u payed ?
3,099 Saudi Riyals which converts to $826.40 american
How do all. just wondered if anyone would like to swop there universal for my Hermes? the hermes is in very good condition and is branded under the T-Mobile Vario II and is unlocked to any network. I really like this PPC but would just like a new toy really. The universal would have to be unlocked and in good condition. PM me if anyone is intrested and i will send you more info and pics etc.
i have ended up setting up a swop for my kaiser and 150 quid. am very happy
kaiser..
isnt the kaiser worth more than the uni?..
Are you in the US
The Kaiser is worth a lot more thats why hes also gave me 150 quid. i sent the phone today so i should be getting mine later in the week. i cant wait!
aah!, i mustve read it wrong lol.. wonderes when o2 will sell the xda star in uk.. =(.. they sell the kaiser tho..
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The Kaiser is worth a lot more
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That may change now that HTC has announced that they are planning to solve multimedia performance problems only in future devices and no fix is planned for the Kaiser...
I traded my TyTN II for an i-mate JASJAR, just a one-for-one swap with no cash in between. And I don't regret that for a second! I hated the TyTN II and was ready to use it as a skeet shooting target!
Then I traded the JASJAR for a JASJAM (Hermes) with a miminal amount of cash. This is something I am beginning to regret. Although the JASJAM is faster and has a slightly better camera, the lack of VGA display and bigger keyboard is starting to bug me!
so u basically swapped a kaiser for a hermes and a bit of cash, aint that like a big downgrade?...
No. What's the difference between the Hermes and the Kaiser? The Kaiser has a tilting keyboard and built-in GPS. What else do you get with the Kaiser? How about poor multimedia usability? Stuttering videos and touchscreen that needs a few extra taps to notice you. Not to mention the sluggish camera that's totally unusable indoors.
I just got the Universal today. i really do like it Ialso really did like the Kaiser mind. The only reason why i didnt use it as much was because it was locked to t-mobile and i now have a sim card for my mates work sim(free internet,free calls, free texts etc) Thats why i used the hermes and am really pleased i still got it. The hermes is by far the best pocket pc device out there. Its had more people cooking roms then the kaiser so we know how to play with it and get more out of it etc. its not bad sized(althought many people do take the mick out of me for having a brick as a phone. wait till they see the universal!) and also the hermes is just such a good alround brilliant phone. i am getting a artemis up and running soon mind so will have a good play with that and find out if i like WM devies without keyboards any good. will keep you posted!
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I just got the Universal today. i really do like it Ialso really did like the Kaiser mind. The only reason why i didnt use it as much was because it was locked to t-mobile and i now have a sim card for my mates work sim(free internet,free calls, free texts etc) Thats why i used the hermes and am really pleased i still got it. The hermes is by far the best pocket pc device out there. Its had more people cooking roms then the kaiser so we know how to play with it and get more out of it etc. its not bad sized(althought many people do take the mick out of me for having a brick as a phone. wait till they see the universal!) and also the hermes is just such a good alround brilliant phone. i am getting a artemis up and running soon mind so will have a good play with that and find out if i like WM devies without keyboards any good. will keep you posted!
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Why not sim-unlock your Universal, LOL
Its a O" branded Universal so it comes sim unlocked out the box
isnt the hermes worse than the kaiser.. lowwer spec anyway..
i was thinkin of gettin a anthena/advantage/ameo.. its vga but its mahoosive.. i was gnna get a touch dual but prob couldnt cope without vga.. lol and its got a hard drive.. 8gb aint bad..
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isnt the hermes worse than the kaiser.. lowwer spec anyway..
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What lower spec? If you take away the built-in GPS and the tilting keyboard, what else is still better on the Kaiser?
I've been using WinMo for a few years now - since I got a C500 ( a great device) and I love my Athena BUT it's getting a bit battered and the camera no longer works and I've had it a while. I've also found myself using my C600 because the Athena is, let's face it, a bit of a brick to carry all the time.
I know it's blasphemy but I've actually been looking at the Nokia E90 - has anyone else looked at this and decided to go for it - or not?
Any views on the E90?
Cheers
To be honest, jumping from one OS to another is a tough decision. If you are dependent on 3rd party applications such as myself, then you will have a problem with symbian. If you use the device for it's calendar, phone, editing word, or any built-in application, then switchng to the E90 is the best choice for you.
My first PDA was palm OS, although I love it, switching from Palm to WM was easy because of the availability of 3rd party software that I needed.
Hope this helps...
i got a sony ericsson p1i, symbian uiq 3.0. if im honest, its a great normal phone, and replaced my athena. but it has bugs i cant solve like sms not appearing in the today plugin-like thing. [its basically like spb diary, with pluses for calenday inbox and tasks, but inbox always reads zero even when texts have been recieved, so i have to always check inbox manually]
Anyways, its limited though, you can get the programs you need, but it just isnt wm. when i first got it, it literally made my athena redundant, because of its small size, same camera, and realy because my athena is more for fun. but recently, ive began using my athena again. [on my trip to wigan yesterday i had my athena on for about an hour on the journey, purrely for opera and wlm. uiq3 has opera 8.65 or whatever the last v8 one was installed, and it works wiht finger scrolling and all that, but it just isnt the same as 96dpi 9.5. and things like i cant change the brightness easily, or connect to wlan, and theres about 6 types of gprs/3g connection and half o the time it connects to the wrong one and stuff like that.
so confucious, if you want to downscale in size and other things, then go for the symbian route, but if not, get a touch diamond
as ive said though, im using iuq 3, wheras the e90 has s60 [i think]
Rory
Thanks for the reply - I've just bought a 'refurbished' E90 of fleabay - lets hope it's OK when it gets here!
i hope youre sill gona keep your athena, i will miss your funny remarks if you get rid of it.
and will you post a review or your views on the e90 like someone did ages ago (i think it was eaglesteve)
And how much was it?
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
i hope youre sill gona keep your athena, i will miss your funny remarks if you get rid of it.
and will you post a review or your views on the e90 like someone did ages ago (i think it was eaglesteve)
And how much was it?
Rory
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It was Leoni who posted the review I think.
Would be interexted to see that review but you can't search for e90 and user Roni only has 1 post (there are many other roniXXXs)
I will, of course keep my Athena and will let you know how I get on with my e90 and how it compares - that is, of course, if it arrives and is usable....
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Would be interexted to see that review but you can't search for e90 and user Roni only has 1 post (there are many other roniXXXs)
I will, of course keep my Athena and will let you know how I get on with my e90 and how it compares - that is, of course, if it arrives and is usable....
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I believe this is the thread that is being refered to by Leoni1980
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377022
Phone just arrived, put T-Mob SIM in and it connected straight away to the internet, then I got a text from T with their settings, up and running in no time
Thanks for the link lakeman just reading now.
So far, so good
Yes, this is the review I was talking about. Sorry for leading you down the road by the spelling errors.
Thanks for the replies, eaglesteve, it is far better to reply and make a mistake than not reply at all. Your input, as always, is appreciated.
My E90 turned up today after winning it yesterday morning £171 inc P&P - that was for the phone and battery only - I've ordered a charger and car charger for another £13 but don't have tanything else - won't miss the headphones and software I can download - am I missing anything?
I seem to have a bargain!
So far I really like it
Did someone mention my name???
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Did someone mention my name???
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My ears pricked up.
Don't forget to upgrade your firmware to enable flash support. It works great on the E90s screen. And get an 8gb micro sdhc from play.com if you don't have one already. I thoroughly recommend coreplayer for symbian too: it works superbly with almost any video you throw at it, including .flv.
And of course Garmin xt for all you'd satnav needs
Ordered 4Gb card cos they are cheap.
The latest firmware doesn't seam to be available - it was up then taken down. I guess I'll find out when it is released!
I use CP7 for SatNav - will have to get them to dort it out so it works on the E90 screen!
Thanks for the advice.
wow! 177 for an e90, i have never looked but always assumed they were more then the athena.
im waiting for your impressions
Rory
they're cheaper than the Athena but 177 is an incredibly low price - I'm impressed.
Ive always been caught up somewhere between a business and a pleasure device, and for me the E90 ticked more boxes than the Athena because as well as push email and document viewing/editing there's a much better camera and video recorder and better flash support from within the browser (not to mention a nicer keyboard for typing on).
With the new touch 4 rom the Athena looks great, and Opera 9.5 is a big step forward but still the E90 has the edge for me.
It was £171 but another £13 for chargers.
Woke up this morning and battery is flat
My charger hasn't arrived yet but can borrow one at work
So far I'm very impressed but got problems getting my cert on it so haven't got Push email working yet.
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Ordered 4Gb card cos they are cheap.
The latest firmware doesn't seam to be available - it was up then taken down. I guess I'll find out when it is released!
I use CP7 for SatNav - will have to get them to dort it out so it works on the E90 screen!
Thanks for the advice.
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You might already know that Copilot 7 is just released for Symbian devices.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/14637/15661/copilot-7-available-symbian-phones.phtml
Yes, i still haven't received my DVD from them but have already downloaded it. I haven't installed it yet as I am waiting for my memory card to turn up!
Apparently it doesn't work properly on the big screen so I've already asked about them fixing that....
I have been trying to find a wing and just cant, i stumbled upon a v1605 hermes for 95$ and was curious if that would be a good price for this phone, its unlocked also. currently i have a htc excalibur, but my kid decided it needed a bath so tossed it in the toilet, ive actually got the phone working but it keeps having minor problems. using a cooked rom, know about customizing and all the various crap and wanting an upgrade and just curious if anyone could give me advice on the price and would love to hear if anyone is a past/current dash owner w/ a hermes also.
just unsure if i should bide my time and wait it out with a gimp excalibur until i can pickup a wing or if i should just grab a hermes.
dash i have overclocked and what not, i know the cpu is bigger on the hermes and it looks to have a lot more to play with overall.... but will i be getting my money worth at 95$?
the wing has a 220mhz prossessor, while the 8525 has 400mhz.
The HERMES FTW!!
My english teacher had a Wing, he asked me to do some moddification, if you know what i mean.. And i got to say, the keyboard is a little better, but the phone is really slow trust me. The Hermes is twise as fast. I have the hermes curently, its great, and for the price of 95$ you should get it. I got mine for 200$ and i think that THAt was a good deal. But yeah. Get the Hermes.
Not the leader of the pack anymore but still a solid little device. For the price, WHERE CAN I GET ONE TOO????
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Not the leader of the pack anymore but still a solid little device. For the price, WHERE CAN I GET ONE TOO????
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The wing or the Hermes?
Hermes...
Only HTC I own....
Cheers...