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Case Round-Up

I decided to round up all of the cases for the HTC Universal for reference:
Piel Frama (1 case... also available on Expansys as the "Chairmans Case")
- http://www.pielframa.com/imate_jasjar.htm
PDair (2 cases, both with belt clips)
- http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7749.htm
- http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem.php?itemid=1998&pdaid=190
XaX (2 cases)
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125516
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125869
- Nutshell
http://www.tuff-as-nuts.com/209-210.html#
I have ordered the XaX cases with the intention of sending one back... I will post a full analysis with lots of pics.... it's sad that there are not a lot of pics around of these two !

BTW, here's a nice review of the Proporta case...
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/execbookcase.htm

Thanks for the summary - very useful indeed. I'm looking for something like the Piel Frama or Xax (2) case but the keyboard must NOT be covered - which I believe it is with both of these, although it is hard to tell from the photos.

I have found another case by Krusell which looks quite good:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?s=2&product=2095
Sold here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127398&asource=119353
Anyone got one?

Mods:
Should this be in accessories ?
Sorry...

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Wow... the Krusell one looks pretty good !
Hole for ear... belt clip... window for screen... Hmmmmm.... !
The only thing its missing is elastic stretchy sides to block the SD card from falling out while still being able to open the case.

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i like the krussel or the xax #1.
am interested in feedback on the xax, as I really just want something simple to make the carrying of it easier. if I need it, i just want to take it out of the case entirely, then when finished put it back. most cases are designed to keep it inside the case. i think the clam design prevents the need for a protective permanent case, so something to make it easier to carry it would be handy.
But yes, the krussel looks good if I felt it needed protection...
So any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good, and if any body does by the krussel, let us know.

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...any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good...
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I've had the XAX 1 for about a week now and it's just what I was looking for. Like you, Simon, I was also interested in just something to carry the Universal as I prefer to take it out completely to use it. The XAX 1 certainly does the job.
The magnetic closures make it very easy to take it out of the case and put it away. The fit is not too tight to make it difficult to remove and replace but tight enough to feel secure. It's not going anywhere. And it may seem a small thing, but I also like that the magnets make the removal and replacement of the Universal into a silent operation without zipping or velcro or snaps to announce what you're doing. It's not a big deal, but it was a nice little bonus.
The concern I had with this case was the belt clip since it is an actual clip and not anything that locks in place. My previous "belt" cases with other PDAs had the locking type clips. This one just hooks on to the belt, but it feels very secure. There seems to be no question of it slipping off of a belt and I've even used it just hooked on to jeans (without them falling down, despite the Universal's weight!) when not wearing a belt. I can see where there is more of a chance that it could come unhooked when just on jeans like that, but I haven't had that happen yet.
One advantage to the locking clips was the ability to allow the case to swivel which this one does not have. After using it though, I like the horizontal orientation and now prefer that it doesn't swivel actually. I don't have to take the case off or swivel it around every time I sit down.
I'm planning to eventually get the PDAir (most likely) for times when I want the Universal protected even while in use, but I would only use that in certain environments where I was worried that it might get damaged if taken out completely. Most of the time I plan to use the Xax.

I am not sure I get how the Xax 1 works.
Is it like a holtster, where you just slide the JasJar in?
What is the magnetic closure for, is that a tab that closes over the top opening?
How are the sides protected?
Care to post some pictures?

I'm at work, so I can't post any pictures right now (they probably wouldn't be all that happy that I was positng in the first place, but hey, it's lunch!)
It is like a holster and the JJ just slides in. As you suspected there is a leather tab that goes over the top to help protect and hold it in (though the fit is tight enough that I don't think holding the JJ in is really all that necessary.) It doesn't go completely across the top, but leaves room on one end so that you can use the headphone jack while it's in the case (as long as you put the JJ in it with the camera facing out.) Beyond that, the top is protected. There is leather on both sides, so they are protected as well. On the bottom, there's a large cut out in the middle that allows you to push up on the JJ to take it out more easily as well as two other small cut outs for the speakers.
I'll try to see if I can get some pics together later tonight.

Hi everyone,
I got the XaX #2 case today (the magnetic snap one, NOT the belt clip) and well... it's not that great.
First of all, the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside... the leather strip that holds down the keyboard gets in the way of the screen. I've tried a bunch of different positions, and no dice.
Also, the camera hole is uncovered, but the earpiece is not so you can't use the phone when the case is closed.
The magnetic snap is nice and strong though, and the leather is of good quality.
However, in terms of functionality, it's not that great. I'll post pics later.

ikaris said:
...the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside...
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So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.

Same here. I am interested in the Piel Frama case or the Krusell. Both look pretty nice and seem to have the proper cut outs for all buttons and such. Just wondering which one seems to fit the device better.

I am currently using the case that came with the iPaq 5500 series. This fits the XDA Exec perfectly and is ideal if you want to use the case for storing the Exec and taking it out of the case for use.
Simon

kelford said:
So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
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I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Thanks for giving an update! That's good news that the Piel Frama doesn't have the closing issues that was found with the XaX 2 case. I know how well PF cases are made, so I may have to get one of these (or at least put it on a gift wish list!) since I find I like to use different cases depending on circumstances.
How does it feel in terms of added bulk? It seems designed to be on the device most if not all of the time, so I wondered how it really feels when used every day?

Take a look at this one: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7866.htm
seems reasonalbly priced
One thing though..........
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first pic you see is the belt clip side
click the next pic and where you would expect to see the closing flap thingy, you see a plain flat side!?!?
Am I missing something?

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Am I missing something?
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I don't understand that either. Where did the flap go?
I'm supposed to be getting pictures together (having regular PC issues at home) so I can show the XaX 1 in use, but the general construction looks similar to the one in the link, but the XaX has a bigger flap. And it doesn't hide anywhere either!

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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
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Yes, it is not covered by any plastic.
The case does make it feel more 'bulky'. In the daily usage you could leave the it in case without the need of taking it out. I can answer the phone by not having to open the case. Of course you do need to open it to be able to make a phone call.

Recommended Prophet cases?

Which case for the Prophet would you recommend?
My main criteria are:
- Screen protection
- As slim as possible
- Leather (desired)
- Cheap :wink:
Any advice is greatly appreciated.[/list]

the slimest there is... you can't use the touchscreen unfortunatly (or am I wrong maybe?)
anyway I havn't seen a leather case that wouldn't make a brick out of a prophet. I find it strange - you can quite comfortably put a prophet in your pocket, wich makes it very portable, but you can't have a case that doesn't spoil it.

You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.

After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.

drwhitesnake said:
After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.
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I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!

vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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Hi vsc, that is a great case - the best I have seen so far! Thanks for the link.
I see that this case is for the Jam though - are the Jam and Jamin 100% identical (the form is identical (I believe) but not the button arrangement, right?).
I will contact ebcases directly also.
Thanks!

I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.

thulsey said:
I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?

vsc said:
I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.
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Thanks vsc!
As long as the cut outs are not covering buttons, I guess thats fine then.
So, from the pictures of their website, the case really looks very tight and it appears that it doesnt add any (at least not too much) bulkiness to the s200. How does the case appear if you saw this it in person and on a Prophet? Do the pictures reflect the impression given on their site?

What about these?
Has anyone tried out the aluminium cases like the ones sold on expansys? Or this one for example
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=71
I know the last one is kind of not a case, but a carying holster, but nevertheless...

Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.

vsc said:
Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.
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I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.

Changes to the case were US$10.
With respect to the Brando case...seconds. The problem is really related to the material's affinity for dust. Drop it in your pockets and you would be amazed as to the mount of crud it picks up. It wipes off with a microfiber cloth or cleans up with water.
Craic Dub said:
I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.
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got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.

got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.

Craic Dub said:
thulsey said:
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?
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The one I'm using is very similar to the one from Palmwarelabs. It even has raised icons on each of the buttons so you can (sort of) feel what you're pressing. I think it's a local brand here in Taiwan, but I'll look into it and see if I can find it on the web.
When I was searching, I noticed that there are several different thicknesses of silicone, and various levels of craftsmanship that go into cutting things out (like the screen area, infrared port, etc.)

Get the flexskin from www.boxwave.com!!
You won't be dissapointed!

Hey...
Aluminium cases anyone???

vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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hey vsc, I talked to EBCases today and they said that the case for the Jam wont fit the Jamin due to different button arrangements.
According to EBCases' customer service agent (very friendly and helpful!), they are working on a new case right now, which will then fit the Jamin. The new case would probably take another 4 weeks in order to be released.
I might just wait for this new case, since their case really is the best I have seen so far (and I have looked at a lot of them).

monaco aircraft aluminium case with screen cover?

I am looking at purchasing this case i was wondering if anyone could give me the run down on it? I ended up buying a tilt becuase i am a tech fan and a hoobiest programmer, a gadget lover, im not a buisness man. I am a commercial electrition during the day and drive pizzas at night. I really love the tilts gps and i use it to listen to podcasts and internet radio in the car. I currently own a leather belt clip case i keep the tilt in most of the time, but im looking for a case solution when im out doing elctrical work. This includes anything from pulling huge cables to digging ditches.
I usually end up going through phones twice a year i beat them up at work pretty bad. I wont be using this monaco as a primary case just while im out in the field. I bascially just need to use my kaiser as a phone and maybe some texting when its in this case. I found the case here http://www.tiltdepot.com/att-tilt-metal-cases.htm the review said it limits the touch screen functionality. So what im wondering is will i be able to still use the creen i mean i just need to be able to use handwriting recognition and some acuall touch support in spb shell and finger based vistual KB's. How does this limit the touch screen?
aA;so how much bulk does this add becuase im also going to need to put the phone in a pouch or something to keep dirt out of the buttons.

I don't have any experience with this case to share I'm afraid. One of the common complaints with metal cases is signal attenuation. You might want to look at one of the Otterbox cases, but you'll still have to pull it out to use the keyboard.

hey buddy. I got a metal case from an australian company called pdair. I've had it since i bought the phone a couple of months ago. It's saved it many times and it doenst hurt the signal at all. BUT, it does have a polycarbonate cover so it does hurt the touchscreen function, but i just use the D-pad anyway. http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561

Is the outter box 8000 the one for the tilt? can you hear the phone ring in the outerbox.
Christian see im just wondering if the touchscreen works at all how much does it impair the phone? Im not really worried about the signal anyways im not going to be using the phone in this case all the time. I dont plan on surfing the net or anything while im trying to pull wires down 4 stories of building. Just need to be able to send or recive calls and texts. I think i could deal with flipping the case open and using the keyboard but im still curious how well the touch screen works.

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I am looking at purchasing this case i was wondering if anyone could give me the run down on it? I ended up buying a tilt becuase i am a tech fan and a hoobiest programmer, a gadget lover, im not a buisness man. I am a commercial electrition during the day and drive pizzas at night. I really love the tilts gps and i use it to listen to podcasts and internet radio in the car. I currently own a leather belt clip case i keep the tilt in most of the time, but im looking for a case solution when im out doing elctrical work. This includes anything from pulling huge cables to digging ditches.
I usually end up going through phones twice a year i beat them up at work pretty bad. I wont be using this monaco as a primary case just while im out in the field. I bascially just need to use my kaiser as a phone and maybe some texting when its in this case. I found the case here http://www.tiltdepot.com/att-tilt-metal-cases.htm the review said it limits the touch screen functionality. So what im wondering is will i be able to still use the creen i mean i just need to be able to use handwriting recognition and some acuall touch support in spb shell and finger based vistual KB's. How does this limit the touch screen?
aA;so how much bulk does this add becuase im also going to need to put the phone in a pouch or something to keep dirt out of the buttons.
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in short I say buy this case. I have this same monaco case and I love it. I work in a warehouse mostly sometimes on a roof helping install solar panels and such, much the same as you im sure with the wire everything from #12 to 600mil. I don't do a lot of pulling but am around it all day and conduit and a forklift oh you get te picture.
this case provides the most protection I can imagine and still have the phone functionable. my case hase seen the concrete from about 10 ft and no problems. scratches of coarse but phone was un harmed.
in short great case great protection and a great buy for me I purchased mine about 2 months ago and I paid $14 or so pre ship on ebay.
get it you won't regret it.
(if you do ill buy it from you)
hope this helps.

mrphat, can you still use the touchscreen at all?? that is what i really want to know, how much it limits the touch screen.
I mean im going to need a tuff case no matter what, not so worried about dropping it, but sliding 4 750s over leg while they get tugged down a pipe is enough to crack the screen in a leather case.

The Pdair case protects/covers the whole phone(including touchscreen) but leaves the access features accessible (i.e. D-pad, answer/end buttons, stylus. etc). You can hear the phone very well and at work i just use the D-pad to answer the phone. Since i have an S2U2 all i do is get it out of standby and i can check quick vitals that way. . Whenever i get a text or something like that, i just open the case and use the phone that way.
After looking at the monaco case, it's EXACTLY the same as the pdair case. Both are aluminum and both have the polycarbonate screen protector.

thanks thats what i really needed to know

I originally bought an aluminum case for my Tilt because I wanted the extra protection. In my experience:
* All of the aluminum cases I've seen appear to be pretty much the same. eBay is littered with them for about a quarter of the price that Tilt Depot is charging. Search "Tilt aluminum case"
* You can use about 90% of the device's features with the Dpad and other keys, but you can't dial the phone without opening the cover.
* I did experience about a one-bar loss in signal with the phone in the case vs. the phone not in the case.
* The case that I had was slippery as heck. I wound up attaching a wrist strap to the phone and would never use the device without strapping in first.
* The aluminum case is a little bulky.
I switched to a rubberized case and don't miss the aluminum nearly as much as I thought I would.
You probably need the extra protection for your day job, and the aluminum case will certainly provide it. Trust me, though, trying to flip open the cover and dial the phone one-handed while you're driving is a huge pain in the rear, not to mention dangerous.

well what about these outerbox cases can you hear the phone ring will they fit in your pocket?
I mean im going to have to keep the aluminum case in a pouch anyways beacuse i work in palm springs wich is all desert and any underground work is in sand, so i have an issue with dirt getting in the buttons too. If im going to be taking the phone out of a case to dial might as well take it out of one instead of two.

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mrphat, can you still use the touchscreen at all?? that is what i really want to know, how much it limits the touch screen.
I mean im going to need a tuff case no matter what, not so worried about dropping it, but sliding 4 750s over leg while they get tugged down a pipe is enough to crack the screen in a leather case.
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questions been pretty much answered I guess and yes the case needs to be opened to use the touch screen , but trust me it is easy to get acustomed to. as the poster said a few posts up it does work well with s2u2 and the dpad.
forgive me if im wrong but is there a otterbox case made for this device specifically?. I know the ones I've seen are pretty generic and very bulky.
I have mine in the case and I purchased a leather pouch for a BB Curve from the Dollar Tree for a buck its real cheap fake leather so I bought like 4 of them. I just slide it in there. the belt clip is sturdy but doesent allow you to set it down and use it. maybe this helps ?
I also agree that pretty much all of the cases (aluminum) are the same I just happen to own the monaco.

Belt pouches

I recently purchased the Fuze, and one of the first things I noticed was that the standard AT&T offered cases are not designed for people who do anything other than work in an office. In my not-so-humble opinion, mind.
I was wondering if anyone has seen a pouch or case that goes on a belt loop that will hold the phone snugly. I use a BT headset, so unless I'm using the phone for the computer side of things (which is about 40% of the time, having to find this or that bit of info), the phone is quite happy to stay in its pouch.
If all else fails, I guess I could go buy a neoprene laptop carrier and cut it into what I need/want. But I want to see if anyone has found something that might work instead.

These are alittle dear but VERY good cases ...
http://tuff-as-nuts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=685

Piel Frama
I use my FUZE in the manner you described. I wanted a snug pouch that allowed easy access.
The Universal Cell Phone Case from Piel Frama, sized for the FUZE, works great and looks good. It isn't fancy, which I like.
Hope this helps,
Brian

this phone is kind of classy looking. Are you sure you want to go sporting around a belt clip?
I mean, not as bad as an iPhone user wearing it on their belt....but pretty darn close.
I would recommend finding an alternative that is a little more well hidden. I've seen some pretty nice solutions for putting the phone in a pocket securely. That's nice because it's not a huge advertisement that says "I'm forty and still receive wedgies." If you can't find an alternative that suits your needs that's cool, but if you can find a more hidden phone accessory you'll seem much more sleek...like your phone.

andrewjohn81 said:
this phone is kind of classy looking. Are you sure you want to go sporting around a belt clip?
I mean, not as bad as an iPhone user wearing it on their belt....but pretty darn close.
I would recommend finding an alternative that is a little more well hidden. I've seen some pretty nice solutions for putting the phone in a pocket securely. That's nice because it's not a huge advertisement that says "I'm forty and still receive wedgies." If you can't find an alternative that suits your needs that's cool, but if you can find a more hidden phone accessory you'll seem much more sleek...like your phone.
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What kind of pouches are there to put the phone in the pocket securely? I have bodyguardz on my phone so i am not too worried but i would like to know what kind of pouches you are talking about. Thanks.

Nifty leather case I found, made for the Kaiser

I am a pretty big perfectionist when it comes to cases. I want something that doesn't add steps to the process of using the phone, and something that is durable as well.
I've been through the hard cover cases and found that they look terrible after a few dings. I also found that on most hard cover cases there is a certain point of weakness where the frame is smaller to compensate for port access, which led my case to crack.
Anyways, I just ordered the O24550LCST1BK from CarryMobile.
Google search O24550LCST1BK and click the first link to see it.
When will I have my url restrictions lifted? I've been a registered user for a bit now...
From the pictures it's just what I was looking for. It isn't blocky or otherwise ugly. I really like the rugged appearance and the metal hook on the back for misc usage!
The only downside is that it doesn't have a way to use the keyboard (thats another model that they offer though). I use mostly touch friendly apps anyways so I won't notice it.
When it arrives I will let you know what I think!

Is this the one you meant?
http://www.carrymobile.ru/all_HTC_HTC+Kaiser_HTC+TyTn+II+Sleeve+Type+Black.html
Doesn't seem very svelte. And having to take it off to use the keyboard is a big negative for me.

The O24550LCBSPBK-4550 may be more along the lines of something you would be interested in. I'm debating changing my order for that one and just removing the front cover flap.

Thx but all these cases are a waste of time and money. Just don't throw your phone on the floor and it stays fine. It's all common sense really. If you drop it, well that's your fault isn't it. Take care of your phone and it will last for years.

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Thx but all these cases are a waste of time and money. Just don't throw your phone on the floor and it stays fine. It's all common sense really. If you drop it, well that's your fault isn't it. Take care of your phone and it will last for years.
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I can agree with your point of not dropping it being the number 1 way to make a phone last, but in my situation I need a case for both the protection and belt clip usage. I am normally pretty good about taking care of my phone, but I've had a few run ins with people bumping into me.
I know I am perfectly capable of taking care of my phone, but it's the other 'crazy drivers' im worried about. I'd think differently if I hadnt already had to replaced most of the internal components of my phone XD

I use Seidio hard case with local branded leather pouch (vertical, with flap magnetic cover). Pretty handy. Tried not dropping the phone, it's now 3 times already. All due to my own absent mindedness.
However, the Seidio holds up well, it hasn't cracked or anything. Phone working fine still ..
I had PDAir Aluminium on my SE M600 previously, but given Kaiser's bulk & weight, I decided going lighter. Besides I read somewhere the aluminium reduces signal quality (on M600 doesn't matter, not doing any Wifi - it doesn't have one but it matters for Kaiser, both GPS and Wifi)

Its similar to the case I had by SENA for my HTC 8525/HERMES. The only difference it had a flap the covered the entire screen/keyboard and did fully protect the phone. The only problem was you had to remove the phone for the keyboard. Generally didn't use the keyboard so it was perfect. Unfortunately SENA doesn't make one for the KAISER otherwise I'd buy it. Did protect the phone fully.

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Its similar to the case I had by SENA for my HTC 8525/HERMES. The only difference it had a flap the covered the entire screen/keyboard and did fully protect the phone. The only problem was you had to remove the phone for the keyboard. Generally didn't use the keyboard so it was perfect. Unfortunately SENA doesn't make one for the KAISER otherwise I'd buy it. Did protect the phone fully.
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did you look at the O24550LCBSPBK-4550 model? Sounds like what you describe, except you can open it up and the keyboard keys are protected by a plastic layer. I finally broke down and got this case, so I am just waiting on it to arrive from hong kong now