hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?
what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....
and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage
I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.
from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice
anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing
also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?
the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM
success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.
laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.
THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"
laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers
"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.
laura_kim said:
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version
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Hey all!
I am currently running on 1.50i.96 and am looking at upgrading to 1.60a. I dont seem to need much of on device storage space really, so i guess i'd atleast have the persistent memory benefit from 1.60a (correct me if am wrong here!)
I just unlocked my extended rom. I have a bunch of files sitting in it. The question is, can i back these files up on my computer, and get rid of it to free up space? Would that cause any problems during a hard reset or something?
The next question, how do i install the RAMDisk? Where can i find the installer for the same? Are there any procedures i'd need to follow to set my RAM disk size?
Thanks so very much!
San
i've a question fot you :
Have you read the posts about wm2005 rom in this forum ?
the 1.60 rom have 180 Mb of ram (volatile) and 14.5 Mb of Storage (persistant)
The Extended rom is NOT used by wm2005 , you can totally erase the extended rom and install all you want ....
You can install ramdisk on 1.60 rom but it's non-persistant .
persistant = : if you remove battery , content of persistant memory stay ....
non-persistant = : if you remove battery , content of non-persistant memory don't stay !!
thanks for your inputs TofClock.
I am aware of the fact that the ram disk is not persistent...the word "ram"disk is clear enough!
But i need the ram disk "just in case"...i thought it would make better sense to start using 1.60a only when i'm sure i can get more space in case i need it sometime later...for now 32 megs seems good enough though...
TofClock, by any chance could you mail me the ramdisk cab file ?? Heres my mail address...
[email protected]
Thanks again!
San
hmm...
well 1.60a has:
128MB Program memory
14.5MB Storage memory as system root
16MB ExtendedROM usable as storage
You cannot install RAMDisk on this version of ROM.
Well you can, but it will cause conflicts in the OS.
If you need more storage space, get yourself 1.50i.xx, where xx stands for amount of Program memory.
buzz
Thanks for your reply Buzz!
when I use 1.60a, I'd totally have 16MB+16MB of persistent storage right?
the question is, where do all the common files (DLLs etc.), contacts, messages etc. get installed/saved onto? One of the 16meg partitions right? My main worry is that all these common files, contacts etc. might exceed the 16meg partition that the OS is using...correct or would it??
I'd want persistent storage mainly, and as long as I can install a couple hundred megs of apps onto my storage card, I'm just fine!
thanks again big time
San
Dear All:
I just would like to understand the situation here.
after upgrading from wm5 i found that the storage memory is almost impossible to have any programs installed as it's very small.
here is what i have tried
on upgrading directly from wm5 to wm6 without hardreset:
1- storage memory is 8 MB ( i found out that somehow i have all programs that i used on wm5 and all other stored files still available)
2- contacts are still there
3- some programs are nor running
4- extremly slow
on upgrading directly from wm5 to wm6 with hardreset:
1- storage memory is up to 40 MB as i think clearing and formatting the hive removed all excess and uneeded files
2- much faster than before
anyhow my question remains the same do i need to resize capacity?
when installing programs the storage memory is drained on the device, do i need to resize to make which?
1- storage memory ? Program memory ?
2- if i do make it as storage mem 100 and progr memory 16 will it affect anything?
i just need the most space to install programs on the device as files can be added on memory card no problem.
will i need to downgrade to wm2003SE from wm5 or wm6 then use the tools privided on wiki (which is somehow questionable for me being a complete beginner) then resize the ROM and upgrade to wm6?
thanks guys, and thx helmi for a great ROM
Hard reset your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
Ramdisk - just create disk in RAM of your device.
Version : 2.12
features :
+ loading with system drivers, before all applications and most drivers
+ support image of ramdisk in any location
(if using image, please remember, that ramdisk will be loaded only after image load)
+ GUI
+ disk size - unlimited
Where and why you can use it :
1. reassign temp files to Ramdisk.
why :
Ramdisk have speed - like ram, i.e. on hx4700 - write - 30 Mb/s, read - 40 Mb/s - tested in pocket mechanic.
Flash have limited number write cycles - because for temproraly files - ramdisk - is very good place.
after device reset you not need to clean "Temp" folder
2. reassign internet cache files to ramdisk.
why :
Cache files - like temp files are onetime used.
In some devices with slow speed flash it will increase internet speed.
P.S. after folders reassign, you need to restart device
Overall - ramdisk is used for save flash life time and speed up device.
http://www.amv007.narod.ru/programs/Ramdisk_WinCE.zip
I'm testing on : hx4700, Ipaq 214.
warning, on some devices or broachings not working, may be you will need hard reset.
May be it will be useful
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AMV007 said:
Generic Like ramdisk.
Compiled under WM 6.0, but may be working under WM5.
Tested under hx4700.
changed memory using mechanism.
limitation 32 Mb - lost.
added loading with drivers.
Added some features.
http://www.amv007.narod.ru/Ramdisk_WinCE.zip
May be it will be useful
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I don't really understand the readme and I'm scared to try out this app Is it a programm to change the Memory (RAM) size of my device?
Thanks
it will make some of your application memory act as a storage for data
Rudegar said:
it will make some of your application memory act as a storage for data
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Storage mem to Ram? Can it do SDCard to ram?
If it's Storage Mem to Ram then that is good....
noellenchris said:
Storage mem to Ram? Can it do SDCard to ram?
If it's Storage Mem to Ram then that is good....
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Especially in a device like the Sprint Mogul with so much internal Mem and a lack of ROM.
noellenchris said:
Storage mem to Ram? Can it do SDCard to ram?
If it's Storage Mem to Ram then that is good....
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OK. Some description :
Ramdisk - made part of Ram work like Disk - Ramdisk.
Where and why you can use it :
1. reassign temp files to Ramdisk.
why :
1. Ramdisk have speed - like ram, i.e. on hx4700 - write - 30 Mb/s, read - 40 Mb/s - tested in pocket mechanic.
2. Flash have limited number write cycles - because for temproraly files - ramdisk - is very good place.
2. reassign internet cache files to ramdisk.
why :
1. Cache files - like temp files are onetime used.
2. In some devices with slow speed flash it will increase internet speed.
Overall - ramdisk is used for save flash life time and speed up device.
Mr. Vi said:
I don't really understand the readme and I'm scared to try out this app Is it a programm to change the Memory (RAM) size of my device?
Thanks
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It easy to use :
1. copy ramdisk.dll and ramdisk.exe form root path of archive to \windows
2. launch RamDisk-XX.lnk, where XX - size in Mb of ramdisk.
3. you must see new Card - \\Ramdisk, otherwise ramdisk don't working in your machine and no luck for further.
4. for testing autorestart ramdisk - restart softly your machine. If you don't see \\Ramdisk - install SdkCerts.cab, or add SDKSamplePrivDeveloper - certificate from archive - manually. soft reset machine.
5. If you again don't see ramdisk - you must copy RamDisk-XX.lnk to windows\startup
6. for reassign tempfiles and internet cache files to Ramdisk - add to register myregister.reg from archive.
AMV007 said:
It easy to use :
1. copy ramdisk.dll and ramdisk.exe form root path of archive to \windows
2. launch RamDisk-XX.lnk, where XX - size in Mb of ramdisk.
3. you must see new Card - \\Ramdisk, otherwise ramdisk don't working in your machine and no luck for further.
4. for testing autorestart ramdisk - restart softly your machine. If you don't see \\Ramdisk - install SdkCerts.cab, or add SDKSamplePrivDeveloper - certificate from archive - manually. soft reset machine.
5. If you again don't see ramdisk - you must copy RamDisk-XX.lnk to windows\startup
6. for reassign tempfiles and internet cache files to Ramdisk - add to register myregister.reg from archive.
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And this would really work? On today's PPCs? And have no adverse effects?
neilson said:
And this would really work? On today's PPCs? And have no adverse effects?
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No guaranties that all it will be work fine, I can't test it on all devices, just hx4700, WM6.1 , but there aren't any hardware dependencies.
And what mean today's PPCs ?
But in hx4700 I have some troubles only if inserted CF and SD cards, and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS]
"CacheSize"=dword:00002000
set more than 0x2000, because system can't have enought memory for support new disk more 2 Mb.
If you will see something wrong will be good to delete ramdisk.dll from \windows.
In any case : you want -> you use, you don't want -> you don't use.
All simple
"Storage mem to Ram? Can it do SDCard to ram?"
no ram to storage not storage to ram
Rudegar said:
"Storage mem to Ram? Can it do SDCard to ram?"
no ram to storage not storage to ram
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So, you mean there's no program that can make internal memory into RAM? I would pay for that.
neilson said:
So, you mean there's no program that can make internal memory into RAM? I would pay for that.
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Thinking will be easier to upgrade internal chip of RAM (if it possible), rather than write this driver.
AMV007 said:
Thinking will be easier to upgrade internal chip of RAM (if it possible), rather than write this driver.
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So far with regards to the Sprint Mogul, that's proven not to be so easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350002
We need something to give us more then 64 MB RAM.
New version of ramdisk.
now ramdisk image stable loaded from cards (tested on CF card in hx4700), and in this case ramdisk content don't lost during hard rest.
http://www.amv007.narod.ru/Ramdisk_WinCE.zip
is there a name and extension to specify at "HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\Ramdisk\ImgPath" or just a folder path?
thank you
cedzen said:
is there a name and extension to specify at "HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\Ramdisk\ImgPath" or just a folder path?
thank you
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path like \CF Card\backup.img
don't forget to set swop interval, optimal value not smaller than 1 hour (60 min).
thanks!
your progrm increased my internet speed in such a way that i wonder if something else did not help!
hey so it increases ram? or it drains some memory from RAM and make a new disk called RAMDISK?
I tried this program... I had to hard reset my Kaizer.
Will try again....
Sounds like a cool idea. Unfortunately I'm on a RAM challenged (politically correct term) HTC Titan so I can't afford to lose any available RAM.
Now if only it worked the other way around
Hi,
Just few days ago, I had like 20 MB of free disk space, today its <1 MB. Already deleted all the temp files, etc. using software.
Any ideas? Is it possible to sort folders by size or do some other inspection, as it does that for files only.
- Install all your apps to Storage Card?
And if you download your apps through the Marketplace, get the new version of it which gives you the option of installing apps to Storage Card.
- Move pictures, documents to Storage Card.
- Delete unecessary MMS'es
- Email. Are attachments save to phone memory or storage card.
Hi, all pics, videos, mms, emails are deleted, most of the software is installed in storage card.
EgoMaximus said:
Hi,
Just few days ago, I had like 20 MB of free disk space, today its <1 MB. Already deleted all the temp files, etc. using software.
Any ideas? Is it possible to sort folders by size or do some other inspection, as it does that for files only.
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Flash a "lite" ROM that doesn't install all the operator crap when you first boot.
BTW which disk space is it refering too? Storage or program memory?
Storage
180.60 total
Used 179+
Yeah, but I want to find out, who consumed all that disk space... There must be something.
Free storage: 0.00
And I did freakin nothing... Surfed system via file explorer
get Memmaid and run a Quick Clean.
EgoMaximus said:
Free storage: 0.00
And I did freakin nothing... Surfed system via file explorer
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This issue seems to be running through a number of threads and its not just a matter of clearing mem. I never clear anything and I don't get my storage mem filing up and I only ever install to phone.
Lets start again and take a scientific approach.
Give full details of network, ROM, installed apps etc.
pa49 said:
This issue seems to be running through a number of threads and its not just a matter of clearing mem. I never clear anything and I don't get my storage mem filing up and I only ever install to phone.
Lets start again and take a scientific approach.
Give full details of network, ROM, installed apps etc.
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Hi, using official 1.66 ROM on Tele2 network (3G), noticed this issue when I was abroad (and was not installing any softwares or games, just surfing the net via Opera Mobile 10).
Flashlight, Gyrator, clearRam (or clean ram), incall lock, net 3.5, smartlock, skype (installed before went abroad, but into 1gb card) and swype, that's pretty much it.
I have also removed many items from start menu and noticed that HTC recreates some of the shortcuts (not sure if this is related or not) with blacnk icons, such as HTC Messages.
EgoMaximus said:
Hi,
Just few days ago, I had like 20 MB of free disk space, today its <1 MB. Already deleted all the temp files, etc. using software.
Any ideas? Is it possible to sort folders by size or do some other inspection, as it does that for files only.
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have you checked Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\ folder?
EgoMaximus said:
Hi, using official 1.66 ROM on Tele2 network (3G), noticed this issue when I was abroad (and was not installing any softwares or games, just surfing the net via Opera Mobile 10).
Flashlight, Gyrator, clearRam (or clean ram), incall lock, net 3.5, smartlock, skype (installed before went abroad, but into 1gb card) and swype, that's pretty much it.
I have also removed many items from start menu and noticed that HTC recreates some of the shortcuts (not sure if this is related or not) with blacnk icons, such as HTC Messages.
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OK. Let's run with your configuration.
Firstly do you install to mem card or phone mem?
Secondly have you done a hard reset and fresh install of settings?
I currently run CleanEX HQ 2.32 Uni WWE ROM with 2.06.50.23_3 radio.
I have 30 apps showing in the start menu of which 10 were preinstalled with the ROM.
My base mem is as follows-
RAM 576 MB
ROM 512 MB
Storage 292.91 MB
System settings shows-
Storage
Total 292.91 MB (as above)
In use 89.30 MB
Free 203.61 MB
Program (RAM)
Total 453.78 MB (of the full available 576 MB)
In use 170.39 MB
Free 283.39 MB
I don't see any reason why yours should be significantly different, however, if it is there is definately some problem with some apps hogging resources.
And it appears to be occuring on the T-mobile US versions?
Very strange!
had this problem before when using dutty's old cook rom.. never solved the problem..
but I noticed if you open Total Comander.. you can check My Document folder that soething create a file name.... (I forgot) and it's HUUGE! I deleted it.. and the problem's gone..
But then it after sometime.. it create the file again..
using dutty 1.7 HG and smaberg's latetst and doesn't have that issue anymore.. weird..
larrytango said:
have you checked Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\ folder?
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Hi, checked now, Cache folder got some big files, like 15MB total, is it safe to delete all of them?
IC_C - 7.25M
PG_IC_C - 5.66M
thumb_caches - 3.13M
Other than that, there are like few thumbnails only, ~1mb total in usage.
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pa49, I have installed only Opera, Swype and maybe ArkSwitch into a phone memory, everything else is in card. I haven't tried hard reset or soft reset.
I have bought my phone from clove.co.uk without a contract, I believe it's not a T-Mobile version.
Could it be because of the start menu icons deletion? I have deleted HTC People, etc from there and those icons reappeared (but without an icon), so maybe HTC generates some kind of error whenever I open start menu? Is there any error_log location in HTC?
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zelduy, I have tried dutty but deleted it after few mins or so, haven't found any files larger than few KBs in my docs folder.
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P.S. Is there any way to access phone memory via PC? As when I connect USB, can only access memory card and not phone itself.
P.P.S. Is it possible to delete default sounds, as when I right click on such files, delete option is grayed out.
P.P.P.S Is there any disk space management software on WinMo which shows what files/folders consumes the most of disk space?
Thanks for all your help, guys!
EgoMaximus said:
Hi, checked now, Cache folder got some big files, like 15MB total, is it safe to delete all of them?
IC_C - 7.25M
PG_IC_C - 5.66M
thumb_caches - 3.13M
Other than that, there are like few thumbnails only, ~1mb total in usage.
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pa49, I have installed only Opera, Swype and maybe ArkSwitch into a phone memory, everything else is in card. I haven't tried hard reset or soft reset.
I have bought my phone from clove.co.uk without a contract, I believe it's not a T-Mobile version.
Could it be because of the start menu icons deletion? I have deleted HTC People, etc from there and those icons reappeared (but without an icon), so maybe HTC generates some kind of error whenever I open start menu? Is there any error_log location in HTC?
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zelduy, I have tried dutty but deleted it after few mins or so, haven't found any files larger than few KBs in my docs folder.
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P.S. Is there any way to access phone memory via PC? As when I connect USB, can only access memory card and not phone itself.
P.P.S. Is it possible to delete default sounds, as when I right click on such files, delete option is grayed out.
P.P.P.S Is there any disk space management software on WinMo which shows what files/folders consumes the most of disk space?
Thanks for all your help, guys!
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My laptop file manager shows the phone in the file tree and allows access to both storage card and internal storage. It just sees them as a drive. Even without WMDC running.
It's showing my installed app data, HTC cache as 1.75MB and 292 MB of free space.
i delete everything in the HTC ALBUM folder , its just temp files that appear to be created when using the album , any files that are needed get remade so its a quick way of saving some space
I have 2 hd2 phones, 1 has original - never flashed rom, the other I've flashed many times.
When I ran into this free space issue, I found that my phone showed only 190mb for the total size of the storage drive, the other, untouched phone showed 690mb total size.
Even after flashing many different roms, the storage drive on the rom I've been flashing was 190mb total size.
No free space of course.
So, what can resize the storage drive? any idea how this can be fixed?
What size do you see for total mb on the storage drive?
Maybe GoogleMaps Cachefile ?
You'll find it in \appdata.
Unless you install the app onto your storagecard, it'll spam your phone mainmemory...
I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.
work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2