PDANet tethering charges? - Mogul, XV6800 General

Just wondering, has anyone on Sprint who is using any form of tethering been able to confirm and charges for use with or without a PAM plan? I have tried ICS and PDANet and both work perfectly, PDANet claims to be "under the radar" to Sprint but I would like some outside party to confirm this

yep, pdanet fools the network to think that you are using the phone to surf (which is fine) and that means u DO NOT need the PAM plan.

Yeah I can confirm this. It works AMAZING! No charges. I wouldn't recommend downloading MP3's or anything like that because you don't want to throw up any red flags. In other words I definitely wouldn't want to ditch my residential DSL for this, but browsing should still be fine.

Hmm so Sprint know if you're using Internet Sharing App even if you ask it to connect to the Sprint Vision vs Phone as Modem? Well I'm keeping my fingers cross and hope that they don't I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.

alau1158 said:
I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.
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im guessing you havent used PDANet, lol

defaultdotxbe said:
im guessing you havent used PDANet, lol
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I've used it and happen to think it's great. How come you don't seem to like it?

daclothe said:
I've used it and happen to think it's great. How come you don't seem to like it?
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i like PDAnet a lot, despite the fact that i have to soft reset my phone to get the PC app to see it
alau was referring (i think) to the internet sharing app in WM6, and said it was easy to use, i was basically stating PDAnet is just as easy (if not easier) to use

yep finally hearing you guys raving pdanet so much i decided to give it a shot and you know what... it's easy. the only reason why i haven't tried it sooner is because i only tether my phone to my computer on occations actually it's just to my carputer and since i don't have active sync installed on that it's kind of hard, but now that i know better
Thanks guys
-Alan

alau1158 said:
Hmm so Sprint know if you're using Internet Sharing App even if you ask it to connect to the Sprint Vision vs Phone as Modem? Well I'm keeping my fingers cross and hope that they don't I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.
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Sprint knows if you're tethering using Internet Sharing. The point of programs like PDANet and USB Modem is that they mask the tethering so Sprint can't tell.

Sprint (and other carriers) detecting tether...
For info only... please verify these findings for yourself.
Sprint and other carriers use the NAI info from your handset to determine whether you're surfing from the handset or using another device to tunnel (or tether).
Disabling multi-NAI will prevent the carrier from detecting your usage type and should prevent any charges to your account due to tethering.
Instructions for disabling multi-NAI are available on the forum and the WIKI.
Cheers,
Mick

LoL im just waiting to see a huge charge on my next bill..... I was downloading video podcast, ..... about 1 gig or so this month. Both on phone, and using USBModem.. We'll see....

0pRoZzAk0 said:
LoL im just waiting to see a huge charge on my next bill..... I was downloading video podcast, ..... about 1 gig or so this month. Both on phone, and using USBModem.. We'll see....
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What version of USBModem are you using? The Mogul isn't on the supported devices list and Mobile-Stream told me they think it might work, but aren't sure. Also, does it work with BT or just USB? I know there were BT issues when it was released for the Treo 755p.

***IMPORTANT*** - Before you modify registry settings, make a backup using SPB backup or Sprite Backup. I tried to tether before changing the registry, and my internet got locked out permanently. I had to hard reset my phone because I didn't have a backup. If this happens to you (it will say your vision username and pass are incorrect, no matter what you do) then you can restore your backup and try again. You shouldn't have this issue if you change the registry keys and connect first before attempting to use the internet sharing app.
Here's the registry keys you need to change to hide that you're tethering:
get a registry editor like total commander, and go into
HKLM --> Software --> OEM --> Wmodem
Set every key in there (I think there's 4 IIRC) to zero.
This will disable tethering detection,and then you can actually go into settings --> connections --> Manage Existing Connections (under Sprint),and then change your default connection method to "Phone as Modem" instead of Sprint PCS.
after changing the registry keys and connection settings, you will want to soft reset, and then when your phone boots back up, you need to connect to EVDO by opening internet explorer. Once you are connected, you can close internet explorer, open the internet sharing app, change the connection from sprint pcs to phone as modem and then click 'connect' to start your tethering. It will do the rest by itself.
As a note, using the PAM as the default connection setting will give you a boost in download speeds as well, from what I've seen and what others have reported. Happy tethering!

kmartburrito said:
***IMPORTANT*** - Before you modify registry settings, make a backup using SPB backup or Sprite Backup. I tried to tether before changing the registry, and my internet got locked out permanently. I had to hard reset my phone because I didn't have a backup. If this happens to you (it will say your vision username and pass are incorrect, no matter what you do) then you can restore your backup and try again. You shouldn't have this issue if you change the registry keys and connect first before attempting to use the internet sharing app.
Here's the registry keys you need to change to hide that you're tethering:
get a registry editor like total commander, and go into
HKLM --> Software --> OEM --> Wmodem
Set every key in there (I think there's 4 IIRC) to zero.
This will disable tethering detection,and then you can actually go into settings --> connections --> Manage Existing Connections (under Sprint),and then change your default connection method to "Phone as Modem" instead of Sprint PCS.
after changing the registry keys and connection settings, you will want to soft reset, and then when your phone boots back up, you need to connect to EVDO by opening internet explorer. Once you are connected, you can close internet explorer, open the internet sharing app, change the connection from sprint pcs to phone as modem and then click 'connect' to start your tethering. It will do the rest by itself.
As a note, using the PAM as the default connection setting will give you a boost in download speeds as well, from what I've seen and what others have reported. Happy tethering!
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I've seen this edit to disable NAI. Do they do the same thing, or is there a difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\Multi-NAI default is 1, set to 0(00000000)

letsgoflyers81 said:
I've seen this edit to disable NAI. Do they do the same thing, or is there a difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\Multi-NAI default is 1, set to 0(00000000)
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Now that I look at it, there are three keys to modify... CheckProfile, Multi-NAI, and WModemDUN.
I am thinking that the CheckProfile key allows the phone to check your profile on sprint to see if you have the PAM service.
I think the WModemDUN is disabled by default anyway, and am not sure what it does. But I do know that I can connect all day now using Phone as Modem and tether with no issues and no additional programs to install

I checked my registry and you're right, there's CheckProfile, Multi-NAI, and WModemDUN. The first two are 1, the last is 0. So set the other two to 0 and tethering will be undetectable? I figured all programs like PDANet and USBModem did were change these values as well as provide drivers and/or a GUI, but I wanted to be sure.
I won't be tethering often, but I am going through a ton of data on the Mogul itself by streaming music all day long. I went through five gigs the first month I had it. I wouldn't want Sprint to see all that data, see some tethering, and then hit me with any charges or cancel my service.
Did you need to install any drivers for your Mogul or did Windows detect it right away? I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 for what it's worth.

Guys I go into my registry & for the life of me I can't find the WModem menu.
I get into SOFTWARE-OEM & bam there is no Wmodem.
I am using Regedit. & am clueless.
THanks for the help.

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Guys I go into my registry & for the life of me I can't find the WModem menu.
I get into SOFTWARE-OEM & bam there is no Wmodem.
I am using Regedit. & am clueless.
THanks for the help.
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you need PHM Registry editor found here: http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
now navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem
and set all the values to 0
ok, so if you disable all 3 then sprint wont see it as tethering then?

I am using regedit but the Wmodem is not visible on my device.
Found out what it was. I put the same regedit that i used on my smartphone & it is definitely different from the ppc version.
Thanks for the link.

x01ht may be different
The Softbank x01HT (HTC hermes branded for Japan) doesnt seem to have these reg. keys. All I've got is ChannelID.
I called softbank on this and, as expected, using it as a modem is "unsupported" but if I want to use it they'll be happy to charge me, despite my "unlimited packets" plan
Haven't trolled the forums for x01ht-specific solutions yet, but will have a poke around and see what I come up with.
-nate

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Yo!
Saw the other thread where the other guy initially could and then lost the ability to ActiveSync to his PC - exactly the same has happened to me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42520
Here is what I tried and it worked:
* Connect Pocket PC
* Go to Network Connections and Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC
* Properties
* Make sure TCPIP is selected
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"Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC" - NOPE!! no matter how many icons & tabs etc I tap, i simply CANNOT find this!
What I get on my PC is:
USB Device not recognised: Q: Is there a USB driver I need to install & if so where can I get it from (via the internet).
What I get on my Uni (eventually) is:
Pocket PC Networking
Unable to obtain a server-assinged
IP address. Try again later or
enter an IP address in Network Settings
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Server-assigned IP address??? You're kidding me right? I think I need some insight into what ActiveSync is actually doing here!
Yep, it's rant time boys & girls....
Now as an aside, is it just me but is something basically amiss with these things - Sync'ing to a PC SHOULD BE A BLOODY DODDLE- EASY - NO DICKING ABOUT, but hell no - infinite levels of crap to wade through encountering insane use of TLAs (yep, there you go, another one). God, why can't they K I S S ???? (and another one). What I mean is that I've been using PCs since day dot. I am an honours degree qualified electronics engineer - I desgin hardware & write real time embedded software systems, so if I am getting pi$$ed off with the damn thing, what chance has your average mug in the street??????? :shock:
Andy (currently rigging up a sturdy hessian rope with a noose in it)
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TLA = Three Letter Anacroynims (sp)
K I S S KEEP IT SIMPLE! STUPID.
Good-o, know one knows how to do this (what should be simple, but hell no) task.
Bloody great!
Can't sync to a PC, can't install any programs, utterly useless as a PPC device all down to some sh1te convoluted bollocks piece of software.
I can now measure time wasted in YEARs on similar, badly written software.
Andy
hey dude
take a few deep breaths and lets start at the beginning eh
this should be a simple straight forward process and suspect you have missed the simple bit and launched straight into complex related issues, I suspect that it relates to the using of a USB Hub.
so lets "KISS" ehm, slight cough, blush
1. Dont use a USB hub
2. Delete all partnerships that you have created on both the PC and the PPC
3. Ensure you are running XP SP2 on the PC
4. Ensure you are running ActiveSync 4.1
5. Reboot both the PC and soft reset PPC
6. Go into task manager on the PPC and ensure activesync didnt auto start on soft reset
7. Open outlook on the PC and ensure it is upto date and connected if you are running it with exchange
8. Plug the PPC via the Sync cable directly into the USB port on the PC (not a hub)
9. Wizard should start, at this point, untick the box about exchange server
10. Following the wizard, deselect all options for synchronisation
(we can add some options later, but lets get to the basic partnership setup first)
Now then, those are the simple basic steps. What I would like to know before we get much further is:
1. What do you see? Did you get a wizard pop up to create the partnership?
2. Did you successfully create the partnership
3. Did it synchronise on the activesync screen
4. Did you get an error message on the PC? If so what is the description? If so, go to the PPC open up activesync on the PPC and tell me what the error code is, if any and details of last sync?
If you have successfully created your partnership and it says synchroniZed even though nothing is actually sync'd yet, we have a good start. You can now start installing programs before we sync any data.
I personally choose to extract the cab files that are used during the sync file and copy them to my SD card so I dont need an activesync connection to install.
The CAB files are normally located in \program files\microsoft activesync\ once you have run the setup program on the PC. Alternatively, they can be found in their own personal program directory. I have only ever found one situation that I couldnt find the cab file for. Now all of my source programs are on an SD card and can be reinstalled anytime, anywhere without my PC.
Eitherway, if this is now working, and you have your partnership, first sync something simple like your favourites, or files.
Once this happens, can you now choose just your contacts, then your calendar, then your tasks.
At this point, you can move one step further and decide whether you would like to use your outlook email to sync directly, or through a GPRS/WIFI facility directly to an exchange server.
Okidoki
Thats enough for now. Lets get back to the beginning and work through this simply.
Some other forums that may help....
Morphosin found solutions to his here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40646&highlight=
and some more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42540&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37039&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24184&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42088&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40900&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39259&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38453&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35449&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34598&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31478&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27636&highlight=85010014
as is obvious, you are not the only one. So some deep breaths, tell me what is going on, try to follow the above, read up on issues faced by others and see if they can assist, then let me know how you go and we can start to trouble shoot. I assure you it will be simple, and even if I cant help, each time we communicate this discussion will bounce to the top again and people far more knowledge that us will but in say, hey morons, click here and its done... and all will go away.
Cheeers
@simon_darley thank you very much that was very helpful (btw, no hubs to speak of).
Story so far.
Let me get this off my chest first...
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
How friggin COMPLICATED can something get???? 2 days of searching, reading, installing, uninstalling, falling down holes & climbing out again, faffing & frigging about. All of it needlessly!
Bad buggy software - as a result, many hoops to jump through.
See these were my goals & I think I have it (almost) all sussed now:
1) Sync to PC via a physical USB cable - easy? - nope. ONLY reason to do this is for installation of software. (Sod that sync tasks bollocks, I couldn't give a toss). A little snipped from some dude (here) mentioned the fact that this was unnecessary & could be achived via copying CAB files onto SD media & then installing software on the PPC itself - GREAT :lol:
2) WiFi connection (at work) so I could browse the internet - why? Because it was there & I was interested to see if I could do it. 3 hours later I'm in - thankyou very much! :wink: Some arsehole programmer thought it would be a good idea to make the SSID (a 26 character HEX code), CASE SENSITIVE and relay the keystrokes back to the user as a series of sodding '*'s.... :evil: In the process I've had to learn all sorts of stuff about EAP, LEAP, WiFi LAN access point (Beacons), Wireless clients, The 802.11 standard & hence WEP (and dynamic WEP keys), SSID, EAP, LEAP, WPA TKIP & finally the fact that of all those listed, my PDA uses the adapter: "tiacxwln Compatable Wireless Ethernet": to use server-assigned IP addresses (i.e. use DHCP).
3) A nice simple BlueTooth connection to my PC so that I can browse the internet on my PDA while my wife does the same on the PC - This turned out to be a TWO DAY exercise: Let me list some problems.
Bug - Can't use the WinXP SP2 Bluetooth drivers.
Bug - Can't install the WIDCOMM drivers as they are not certified. (There is a workaround guide, but COME ON GUYS!!).
Bug - If you've pissed about with BlueTooth COM ports, WIDCOMM can't 'go back' as it were to use the lower COM ports (COM9 & below), the assigned COM ports keep increasing. This would be fine if it were not for a ...
BUG - PDA BlueTooth can only use COM ports up to COM9 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ARRRRRRRRRRRGH
Hence: Had to uninstall WIDCOMM
Hence: Had to reinstall WinXP BlueTooth driver
Hence: could then (in a convoluted manner) 'recover' the com ports from COM9 and below.
Hence: Then had to uninstall the WinXP USB Driver
Hence: Then had to reinstall the WIDCOM drivers (and go through all that certification bollox again).
Hence: The PC Could then be set up to use a Serial Comms 'service' on a COM port assignment on a COM9 port or less!!!!
Hence: Then had to REBOOT
Hence: Then had to remove any partnerships
Hence: Then had to use a password OF MORE THAN 8 CHARACTERS - some guy mentioned It does allow you to enter less than 8 characters but doing so screws thing up. ARRRGH AGIAN :twisted:
Hence: New partnership on PPC
FINALLY A BLUETOOTH LINK to the PPC
More dicking about making my internet connection an available 'service' over Bluetooth'
FINALLY get to connect to the internet :lol: :lol: :lol:
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Oh, and the damn thing seems to keep disconnecting every 5 mins. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH
Anyway, getting there :wink:
Phew. Anyone who knows how to get rid of that poxy GPRS - 3G thing (yes I know its a medium so I guess I mean that useless boil on the arse of humanity called WAP) & also how to keep the damn thing connected - I think it's an Activesync issue....
Anyway, I'm now off to the top of my local bell tower with a fully loaded high-powered rifle with telescopic sights & 10,000 rounds of ammo, disguised as a postman.
Andy
hey andy
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
I think you can still connect it, but have to go through the manual process of going into connections, press and hold, select connect. otherwise it wont auto connect at all, it saved me heaps, and I never really used it at all. Otherwise, you can simply go in and delete the settings yourself when you like.
Re Activsync, you may find that it auto starts, and thus tries to start the gprs. this can be rectified by going to activesync on the PDA, create a server source, as fictitious entry. find the connection periods and set all to manual. Then delete the settings entirely. This should prevent activesync from autostarting, and more importantly kick starting GPRS.
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
let me know how you go with activesync and gprs...
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
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Tha's me!
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
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And WiFi
And BlueTooth
And USB
And ActiveSync
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
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Thank-you Thank-you Thank-you (again)
I think you can still connect it....
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I think I can safely say that I will NEVER EVER connect to the internet using crappy WAP. Crap & expensive & slow & useless & what's the point?
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
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You cheeky little a-rab. :lol: Anyway I'm old enough to have missed tuition fees here in the UK, so my 4 years Honours Degree course was not paid for by yours truley :wink: Hell I even got a grant :wink: :wink:
Anyway I must say this, you have been more than helpful & understanding of my foul temper! You see my fault is that as an engineer (my wife is now rolling her eyes skyward), when I see things badly designed it just does my head in because it does not take much more effort to make things so much more better - it beggers belief sometimes and I have to wonder if they actually try using some of these God awful programs & drivers - like I may have already mentioned, how is your average guy in the street meant to cope????
Andy
underwurlde said:
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
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Thats not strictly true...
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
try the latest pocket breeze, full vga support, looks amazing.
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my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
he is a great guy from 15,000km away (he is in Perth, WA and I moved to Brisbane, QLD), same continent, just opposite sides of it. now we get along great
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
if you get 3g on the correct plan its reasonably usable and also gives you TSC/RDP connections into your servers whilst on the road. note, beware the standard 3G is voice capable only at 128kbps, but it should be able to and can be requested to run at 384kbps.
either way, i dont really use it either, its simply to expensive. i just run wifi at home and works a treat.
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
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I think that was what I was trying to say... :roll: Anyway what's that pocket breeze thing then????? Link / file DEFINATELY needed!!!! :lol:
my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
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Probably because he spent most of his time shouting at his PC. (Just like what I've spent the entire weekend doing... Saying that I seem to be missing a daughter - and she's only 3 1/2... The other one is packing her suitcase - not bad for a 2 year old).
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
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Wierd. chaps here at work are intregued... Can you expand a little (I'm a bit slow at these things) & provide some site addresses please?
Thanks guys - now the dust is finally settling, things are getting (even) more interesting on this little Xda Exec..
Andy
re quizz shows, what i meant was things like quizz nights and business nights out when there are prizes and games such as "the most poisonous snake" or the longest river or biggest river etc etc
you can google this sort of information and get the right answer inside the show. it doesnt stand out as much when you are using a phone rather than a laptop or computer, but with fast internet access you can get the answer 99% of the time, in the time frame.
just dont get caught...
underwurlde
pocket breeze is a today plugin pim system,
i hardly ever use calendar, tasks, inbox, notes, etc thats to pocket breeze,
http://www.sbsh.net/products/pocketbreeze/
take a look and install the demo, it roxx, just get rid of the mail, calendar, tasks plugins from today and use this as an all in one, it hardly impacts performance with the right settings, eg, turn off expand/collapse, turn off the entry counters etc, with these little tweaks its nice and smooth.
reduce the font sizes down aswell, you get vga res text.
personally i think breeze is the best pim management system there is, i tried pocket informant but for impact it had.
lost again!
@simon_darley,
LOL...I get you now, sneaky git! :wink: Like it, my kind of scam.
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
Steep learning curve going on here!
Thanks again,
Andy
Andy
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FINALLY get to connect to the internet
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Then
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
The rar file, is actually a cab file, and can simply be downloaded to your device, and click to run, it will auto install and from that point, not be removable. It was an "O2" release not an Imate release, but works on both.
I dont know what it is, I dont know how it works, but I do know that it stopped my JJ from auto connecting to the internet whenever i clicked or touched something that needed an internet address. It basically stops the device from detecting that the option is available, and thus if the system detects a need, it cant find the connection directly.
It basically set the system to have no internet connection, unless you manually open a connection, eg via WIFI, Bluetooth AS, or manually making the GPRS connection by going start > connections > connections and locating the connection, then press and hold to make the connection. It was so long and convoluted, that it never happened and i never connected using GPRS/3G unless i was desperate (like quizz shows ...
There are other reasons why it connects in the first place and somethings that you need to look at was why was it trying in the first place.
1. Activsync automatically starting as mentioned
2. Pressing the "Web" key on the keyboard, which auto starts PIE, which if you havent changed to \windows\default.thm rather than the default www.clubimate.com or other similar, then it would auto start the GPRS as it "detected" that GPRS was available.
3. MSN Messenger not closing properly and trying to reconnect
4. Closing a WIFI connect when the device hasnt shut down an Internet connection
So, what it is supposed to do is shut the direct availability detection method the system uses. I dont really know how successful it was, but you should now see the removal of the "G" and "U" icon, which should now have a symbol similar in nature to the active connection, but with a cross through it.
In summary, i dont know... it was something that was given to me in this forum months ago as i also got "upset" by the auto connect feature. After adjusting the AS settings, and changing the Internet shortcut button, i didnt need it anymore, and still dont run it on my device as it doesnt auto connect as much anymore at all.
Now, it only auto connects when i click on a link in my email and i dont have wifi open, which was my fault not the device fault for clicking the link in the first place.

Any way to auto-connect to GPRS?

Being an avid AIM user, I was curious as to whether or not there is a way for the phone to automatically connect to GPRS. I'm pretty sure there's no setting, however are there any programs out that will let me connect? I use Opera Mini as my web browser, so it becomes a chore having to load my Java application, then boot up Opera Mini, especially when all I really want to do is chat.
Any help guys?
maybe this will
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
thanks for the link theres got to be a regedit that will allow us to do this so when ever the phone softresets and starts gprs will kick in on reboot?
i believe that program got an option to strt gprs when gsm radio starts
and i asume that the program alter some registrys which ones i'm not sure though
Rudegar
thanks mate, il have a play with the app when i get a chance and see if i can find out what reg keys are changed.
ok found a fix for this-
with the below reg hack - as soon as yiour device is soft reset and switched on GPRS will kick in automatically
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\"connection name"\AlwaysOn = 1
and if you change that back to 0 it will go back to default.
peace out.

HTC 3G Tethering Optimizer

Attached is an HTC utility for Windows which does the following (according to the application):
"Running this application will increase your computer's Internet connection speed when you're using a 3G Windows Mobile device as a modem for your computer."
An analysis with Sysinternal Process Monitor reveals it adjusts some registry keys, including changing the TCP window size.
Yes, it is from HTC. No, there are no further details.
-ld
HTC Kaiser / AT&T Tilt / HTC TyTN II Internet Sharing applications
Well, 2 days ago I purchased the anticipated AT&T Tilt, which is the same as the HTC Kaiser / TyTN II (although there might be some minor differences... the AT&T Tilt DOES NOT have a FRONT camera! Why did they take it away?) I am now trying to connect the phone with my laptop in such a way that the laptop uses the phone as a modem (broadband modem, correct?) So, according to the stuff I got from AT&T (The CD, information, manual, etc.) I can only connect to the phone by using the phone as a dial-up modem! I thought I could use AT&T 3Gs network and use the phone as a Broadband modem!!!
TO my surprise, I went to the HTC site and went to the support page for my phone. I clicked on the e-learning site/support site of the phone and in it it shows a step-by-step guide on how to connect the phone to my laptop and do what they call "internet sharing" So, on the guide they talk about a "3gnetopt.exe" file, which I GLADLY downloaded on this site (no other site seems to have this file!!!), but further down the steps, I am instructed to go on my phone to Start>Programs>Internet Sharing Here is the problem... there is no "Internet Sharing" program on my phone!!! Can anyone help me in getting this program!! I hate AT&T for not providing us with this information/files! I guess they do not want us to use their 3G/Broadband network for our laptops! Grrrrrr
Thank you!
its in your windows folder make sure you have file explorer set to show all files and also check the commanger for Inter Net Sharing. One more tip for you try posting in the right forum both of you nothing of this is about Hermes...
cannot execute the program
lucky_day said:
Attached is an HTC utility for Windows which does the following (according to the application):
"Running this application will increase your computer's Internet connection speed when you're using a 3G Windows Mobile device as a modem for your computer."
An analysis with Sysinternal Process Monitor reveals it adjusts some registry keys, including changing the TCP window size.
Yes, it is from HTC. No, there are no further details.
-ld
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I downloaded and installed the program but cannot execute it.....access denied?
Any clue?
3gnet
lucky_day said:
Attached is an HTC utility for Windows which does the following (according to the application):
"Running this application will increase your computer's Internet connection speed when you're using a 3G Windows Mobile device as a modem for your computer."
An analysis with Sysinternal Process Monitor reveals it adjusts some registry keys, including changing the TCP window size.
Yes, it is from HTC. No, there are no further details.
-ld
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it would be great if i could actually download the attached file, not keep getting sent back to the log in page.
register, and you can download no problem
splarigus said:
it would be great if i could actually download the attached file, not keep getting sent back to the log in page.
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f1a said:
I downloaded and installed the program but cannot execute it.....access denied?
Any clue?
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Yes i agree with the person above, "Access denied", how can one then get the file?

Tethering in linux [SOLVED]

I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
Now I want to tether. I have noticed under wm6, the wmodem app is in \windows folder, but it will not start. I know you used to have to enable it via a ## code, but it wont work on the 6800.
So I either need to figure out how to get the wmodem app to work under wm6, so i can have the phone emulate a modem. Or, the second option being to possible use ndiswrapper to use it, since it does show up as a generic rndis device, and under my system as soon as i plug it in (with adv net. function tab checked under connections>usb to pc) it shows up as an ethernet device.
Please linux users jump in and lets figure this out!!
I'm not a big linux user, but this would be very good to know!
I know they tethered the iphone by setting up some sort of proxy on the phone then tethering via wifi,surely this could also be possible using windows mobile given the right app. Please dont tell me im the only linux user out there that cares!!
BTW.. the iphone runs a modified *NIX/BSD im jealous
EDIT: I have also been successful in use the program 'synce' to initiate an activesync connection with the pda. Doesnt pdanet tunnel through a connection like this?? surely there are some fancy iptables or route commands to accomplish this in linux.
USBModem
USBModem is supposed to be able to work with Linux.... There is a free trial to check out.. I'm planning on using it once the Asus Eee comes out..
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html
usbmodem will only give you some dialup scripts which wm6 DOES NOT supoport over usb. I did however solve my problem. The svn version of synce's usb-rndis-lite is the holy grail.
watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
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Can you post the resources you used, or the steps you took, to accomplish this? I'd like to tackle that problem before getting into tethering.
I see the device in dmesg as an RNDIS device (not handled by the ipaq module), but then I can't get multisync or synce to do anything with it after that. All I need to do is save my contacts, and be able to transfer files. I'm going to be replacing my Mogul soon, and I'd like to be able to restore everything once I get the new one. But in my apartment, windows machines are a rare commodity.
Can you post a wlkthrough as I joined the site for practically this very reason. Thanks in advance
J
watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
Now I want to tether. I have noticed under wm6, the wmodem app is in \windows folder, but it will not start. I know you used to have to enable it via a ## code, but it wont work on the 6800.
So I either need to figure out how to get the wmodem app to work under wm6, so i can have the phone emulate a modem. Or, the second option being to possible use ndiswrapper to use it, since it does show up as a generic rndis device, and under my system as soon as i plug it in (with adv net. function tab checked under connections>usb to pc) it shows up as an ethernet device.
Please linux users jump in and lets figure this out!!
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i'm going to guess you can follow this guide but use the svn steps for the driver
http://www.synce.org/index.php/Connecting_your_Windows_Mobile_2005_device_via_USB_(usb-rndis-lite)
Anyone know how to BROWSE the contents of the HTC 6800/MOGUL on Ubuntu? I dont even want to sync, i just want to browse the contents of my Device & Storage card on my phone...
Cant seem to figure this out, SYncE doesnt seem to work for me...
please help
watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
I have been searching for a way to get my 6800 to sync if you could help point in the right direction that would be great thanks. all i can find is how to get wm5 phones to sync
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cant find an app HELP

im looking for an app i have seen it before but cant seem to find it to download it.
its were it lets me be able to connect to my computer thru wifi so that i can transfer files to and from my comp over wifi
does anyone know what the name of it is or were i can download it from
i guess no one knows which app it is that im talking about
I am guessing it is like a network explorer type program.
However Mocha VNC allows you to connect to your computer anywhere through WiFi or Data Connection (it is a remote desktop application) and it will allow you to do File Transfers Back and Forth.
It has a free trial and works on windows mobile so you could give it a try.
yeah thats pretty much what im looking for is to be able to transfer songs to and from my computer to my phone with out having to take out my memory card or have to plug in my phone... thanks
ok so either i dont know what im doing and am a complete dumbass or this **** isnt working can any one give me a hand
Try this. I use this with HTC Touch Elf and it works perfect. This is a full version - Found it on this site - However, can't remember who innitialy posted otherwise I would give credit. Works to view files over wifi connection, transfer files. I listen to my music with this and watch videos from computer on my device. Transfer speeds are not bad but not great. Not to hard to use. Just make folders on your computer as shared folders and then use this program to seach them on your network and connect to them. You only have to connect once and then use file explorer - go to network and into the network folders each time after.
Use Copy and paste to transfer files from desktop to your device
oh ok cool cool thanks let me see if it will work
i tried to install it on my phone but after i did the install i cant find it any were to open it
kermit5327 said:
i tried to install it on my phone but after i did the install i cant find it any were to open it
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Easy. Start, Settings, connections, Network plugin
Enjoy
i dont have a network plugin option all i have beam, bluetooth, connections csd line type, gprs setting, networkcards, usb to pc, wireless LAN
I don't know what to say. Did it install properly?
I had a difficult time finding it as well as I didn't expect it to go there. Did you try doing a search on your device for it. Also, search using file explorer in Program Files to see if it is there. It has got to be somewhere, just have to find it. It will be worth it as it should work perfectly for what you need.
well im getting ready to go through my phone with file explore on my comp to see if i can find it but i havent been able to so far
hell yeah i got it it wound up going into my windows folder on my phone
thanks so much
kermit5327 said:
hell yeah i got it it wound up going into my windows folder on my phone
thanks so much
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If you use IFONZ or ultimate launch or throttle launcher I would create a shortcut launcher Icon so that you don't always have to go into your window folder. I have a shortcut on my phone to it using ultimate Launch. That way if I want to brows other peoples shared folders while using their wifi connection< I can just click easily and search for their shared folders. works nice.
heck yeah thanks man my only thing now is that every time that i try to back to the previous folder it wont let me i have to exit out and start over.
kermit5327 said:
heck yeah thanks man my only thing now is that every time that i try to back to the previous folder it wont let me i have to exit out and start over.
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it shouldnt be doing that. it doesnt for me. did you try a soft reset after installing. might help it run properly
yeah i did the soft reset now my router is being a pain. man this crap really suck i just cant seem to get anything to go my way

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