New to 8525 and have some questions - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi I just got the phone today and have been reading posts on this forum.
I have a couple of questions.
1. I used to have 8125 and the way to change right volume was on the side of the phone now 8525 has a scroll weel there how can i change the ringht volume or atleast to vibrate with a button without going into setings?
2. Is there a way to use the GPS? From what I understand all phones have GPS but we just can't use it for navigation only the cops can use it?
3. I see that you guys are using all kinds of roms on your phones, please sugest the best one or top rated or the one u think is most stable?
4. So far my plan is to: Upgrade the ROM, Install a different comm manager (to set the phone to one network), What other sugestions do you have?
Thank You all
I appreciate any help.
VM

With GPS you need to buy a bluetooth GPS receiver and some navigation software, I would recommend TomTom. With the volume just tap the volume icon in the top bar and you can adjust the volume or you could use Comm manager switch to vibrate etc.

I understand you can use PGS receiver but isent there a GPS build into the phone already? From what I read by law all US cell phones must have GPS build in for the police (maybe it was never done)?
Also for the volume I understand how to do it manualy but isent there a way to use the scroll weel or another buton ?
Thanks

medmenz said:
I understand you can use PGS receiver but isent there a GPS build into the phone already? From what I read by law all US cell phones must have GPS build in for the police (maybe it was never done)?
Also for the volume I understand how to do it manualy but isent there a way to use the scroll weel or another buton ?
Thanks
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When in a call the scroll wheel adjusts volume and also in certain other programs like windows media player.
As regards the best ROM. There is no correct answer to that question. They are all slightly different with different features. Some folknprefer one with as little as possible added to give speed of operation, others want particular features added that they use a lot.
You will have to read, read, read on the upgrading forum. The assumption on the upgrading forum is that you will have read a lot before asking questions. If you decide to upgrade then I recommend using Mrvanx guides to do it unless you are certain of what you are doing. He is a member here but you can google mrvanx also.
Mike

Thanks,
I did read and read and read for like 3 hours yesturday and I know the options and where to find info on how to do it my questions are more forcused on helping me make the decision on which of the 1000 things that i read I should do to my phone.
On the sound Issue, Like i am about to walk into a meeting and i want to turn the volume down to vibrate on 8125(wizard) it was a move of a finger i didnt even have to take the phone out of my poket. How can i do the same on 8525 (hermes) ? I understand I can tap on the sound icon or go into comm manager but I want to do it with a button?
You said that Roms are different with how many fitures they have? how can i find out which rom has which features is there a comparison chart somewhere?
Thanks A lot

For the vibrate toggle search for Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab works great.
As for good ROMs, you'll just have to try several - it seems that even though the hardware is EXACTLY the same, different ROMs work better on some hardware than others. Also different ROMS work better with the software you like to install than others.
Definitely use MrVanx guides. I'd suggest trying Custels ROMs (cingular oriented), Black Majik, VP3G (cingular optimized), Legolas' and Faria.
Personally I'm running Black Majik currently, it's just setup more how I like it by default.

Agree with PKLEY; the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab works very will with the 8525; once installed, just hold the Comm mgr button for sec. or so and the phone switches to vibrate (and will vibrate and show a vibe icon); to return to normal ring, hold the comm button once more. I use it frequently without problems on both my 8525's

awsome thanks guys the vibrate fix made my day

Where is Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab?
Hi,
I did a search of xda-developers.com and can't find the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab. Tried google and that didn't help either.
Help!
Thanks,
Beefus

Beefus said:
Hi,
I did a search of xda-developers.com and can't find the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab. Tried google and that didn't help either.
Help!
Thanks,
Beefus
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You need to improve your searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294195

DJ-Nitro,
Thanks....
I think the above posters had a slightly confused name. Not Comtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab, real name is CommButton-Toggle-Vibrate-Fix.cab!
They were close though... LOL

Another place to find it, and most other helpful cabs, is HERE. Especially good is DeStefano's Cab Collection
Enjoy!

just wanted to give my 2 cents also. i also have an 8525 and i did basically what another member already suggested: downloaded several ROMs and installed each one on the phone and played with it for a while until i found which one i liked the best (settled on v3pg). each of them has its own highs and lows. just have to play around.

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Are you happy with the PPCPE dailer?

Having had my XDA 2 now for a few weeks, and having finally worked out most of the kinks of the really inadequate bluetooth stack (by installing the widcomm stack) I am now moved to address my other annoyances: the very feature poor phone software.
I expected a very configurable phone, but was very disappointed with the microsoft dailer. The short list of features I find missing are:
No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact. This could be very usefully, as you would know who is phoning without checking the screen.
No software to keep track of your calls or GPRS allowance. Even my old nokia from 3 years ago could do that.
No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset. I know you can do it the other way around, why not this way too?
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
Anyways, there is alot more, and people may want to add their annoyances. Im really wondering if there is any software that can replace the microsoft Dailer (like Pocketinformant replaces the pocket outlook).
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Surur
Took me a minute to know what you're talking about.
No, I hate the built-in dialer on the Pocket PC.
The author of mobidial (http://www.mobidial.com) told me there will be an XDA II version.. hopefully soon.
-arebelspy
hey,
just a few comments....
re: No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact
- i beleive the o2 xda site has free software for download; one of which is called powercontacts. i believe it allows you to assign a ringtone to each contact. i tried it when i still had the xda1...never got it to work. so, i downloaded a trial version of ringtonex; it works like a charm and i'm able to assign individual ringtones to any contact i want. i immediately bought the software, i think it was for around 9usd. now that i'm using the xda2; the software still works great. for ringtones what i did was record the voice of my friends, officemates, my wife, and used those wav files for ringtones corresponding to their contacts. it also works in tandem with the photocontacts app in the xda2
re: No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset
-the xda2 has bluetooth and i use it together with the bt200 headset. incoming and outgoing calls are automatically transferred to the headset.
2 cents worth.
cheers mate
robson
Transferring from phone to headset is a headset dependent thing. My HBH-65 allows me to transfer to phone and back to headset, but my Jabra wouldn't have.
Thx for the great pointers. I am definitely getting the RingtoneX app, and mobidail or something similar, when it comes out.
I just wish that developers would design more for handed use, not using a stylus, especially as bluetooth voicedailing does not work.
About transferring to a headset, I mean after you pick up a call with the XDA, transferring the call to a headset should be possible, but has not worked for me yet.
Another minor peeve, why is the sms option not on the dialler, but on the menu bar, and why is speaker phone also not on the front, but you have to press a key for it. There still needs to be alot of improvement. Hopefully independent programmers will kick in and fix all these deficiencies. It does make you wonder if the developers actually use their own devices or not...
Surur
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
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i think it's because that most cell phones screens is their version of the today screen
i most surdenly would not wish such a confusing cluttet messy interface on my worst enemy
(yeah of cause not all cellphones are all that bad some many are)
I dont know. At least they should have the battery status on the screen, and the network logo would not be ammis either (currently its difficult to know when you have no reception, or just no reception)
Alot of the stuff thats currently in the task bar could also be bigger icons on the dailer, and it would also make it look less plain and just incomplete, as if its been thrown together at the last minute.
Surur
well not sure if it's much help but if you install some bar like advanced wisbar on your pda you'll have batt status in the bar both in today and the dialer
suppose this is a pre customised vs. free 3. party customising
some people like to set up their device with personal customising and some people want the place they buy it to handle that
in that way i suppose xda and other such devices are more like computers then std phones are
of cause if one get a xda with all the stuff in the preloaded provider rom they get more of that stuff you want
of cause thats not saying that they get enough
Ive been a user of Icbar for a long time, but as notifications is so important on a PPCPE device, and its not supported, I am not able to use it anymore. This is unfortuanate, as I enjoyed knowing what my battary status is all the time.
Surur
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
This is brilliant. It would be even better if it could use the phone key insteadof loosing my contacts button. Any idea how to do htis.
Thx
Surur
vetie said:
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
Qman said:
Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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http://www.mtux.com/info_ring.aspx
-arebelspy

New to XDA EXEC

Hello one and all.
I have been looking at this forum for about 1 week and i'm still none the wiser. This may be because I have no idea what im doing and I am a little worried about making rom changes as I have no experinace of this.
I have a 02 exec. Which i am happy with but its a bit slower than I thought it would be. The phone seams to mess around when answering.
I have booted it up as normal on the basic setting.
A few questions that I have :-
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
Any advise would be good. If it could be given in a format my 2 year old could understand that would be good for me.
Thank you in advance
You'll find a wealth of information on each of your questions by browsing & searching the posts already on this forum.
thanks moandal that's why I posted.
1 post says basic setup another say corporate. 1 post says hack this that and the other. another says not to.
I'm new to pocket pc.
these forums do not make it clear what is best.
example radio version 1.06 or 1.08 at least 3 posts on here saying each one is better than the other. I have no idea.
all I was asking for is some guidance as to which set up has worked best for people.
@CRJL you've one up on me mate - I did not even know this thing had two modes!!!
BTW, why is that? Someone mentioned somewhere a corporate password - how to enter this & why would I want it.
BTW CRJL, I agree with you, these little devices are very confusing, espcially because the front end software (WM5) is soooooooo labourious!
Andy
when you hard reset the thing. after all the rom stuff loads up it gives you the choice of basic set up or corporate. it selects basic automatically after 20secs.
if you tell it corporate then you have to put the code 0506 in. this the uninstalls some stuff off the exec. you loose mms and all the gprs an 3g settings for conecting to the net. (i don't know what else it does) some of the people in the forums say it makes the exec faster. I could not really notice any difference.
you loose a few applications as well.
until I learn more I'm staying in basic.
I find these forums are for more advanced users so the simple questions tend to get missed. (im talking abot my first post) still not had a reply answering my questions
CRJL said:
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
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for this you should first make a hard reset (carefull, with hard reset you will loose all data!) by pressing both app buttons and reset at the same time.
When it starts up, after the installation countdown shows up you should make a reset to stop the automatic setup.
Now you have a machine, which is only basic setup. See how you like the things in there.
After you now enough about this, you can make same hard reset again and start the corporate setup. Then see, how you like this setup.
After this do same with basic setup.
In total you have then an idea, what you can have with the 3 different setups.
Now you can decide, which of the 3 setups you want to start with. After this, you should read the posts about Extended Rom, how to unlock it, which programs are in there etc. Then you get an idea for example how to install some software in the basic setup.
Also, you can add some programs from other Roms. For example I have an MDA Pro and I added the I-Mate Backgammon game to my setup.
Try out and see what customizations you want and need, which you do not want.
CRJL said:
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
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Basically, this does not really make difference. Forget about reg changes. Performance depends on running programs and setup - see above.
As far as I know, o2 installs some app in the basic setup, which makes the device slow. As I never tried o2 rom, I do not know, if this is true.
CRJL said:
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
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read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
here also I recommend to try out the software and just keep the ones you like.
In total I would recommend you to create a directory on your PC where you put all the setup and cab files, which you want to have in your final setup. After trying out all, make a hard reset again and install the files from this directory. This prevents any junks to be left behind from your previous tries.
CRJL said:
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
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I think, you get more problems than it helps. Some programs appear too small on the screen. And when you make a Romupdate this does not work anymore.
I recommend not to install any VGA Patches. Instead just set the text size to more small and search in this forum for some registry hacks to change system font etc. and see if you like it, when the font is more small (this is good for Opera or PIE as you can view complete page!)
Nice reply, thanks mate!
erm
yes
ahem
erm
what are the ><ahem, ahem>< "app buttons"
Andy (thicky wicky Blacky wacky Adder)
thank you. I will give the 3 setups a go. I did read that if you soft reset before the counter that video calling does not work.
will give it a go and see what happens I'm sure there will be a cab file on here to sort it out.
anyone wishing to add any pearls of wisdom fee free. I'm learning more and more all the time.
app buttons: the buttons on the keyboard, which have changing functions. these functions are shown at the bottom of the screen. These buttons can be found to the right and left of the red and green call buttons on the keyboard.
about video calling: yes, this feature is installed after you switch on first your device. it is activated with one cab file. If you can find out which cab file this is, you can install it manually in the basic setup.

Scrolling Software (to make the volume control act like a jogwheel)

LIke title says, i want to know if we can load software that will make the volume control act as a jogwheel.
Looks like today is my day to answer noobs who don't search before reading... oh well, at least I am usually polite!!!
The answer to all your problems is an awesome little app called Smartskey, that also allows you to use the device in a one handed manner. If it was not for smartskey I would have returned my phone about 2 weeks after purchase.
Most cooked ROMs out there have it built in. If you decide to go this route, please do a LOT of reading about what you need to do to install a cooked ROM. You will save yourself from not only toasting your device but from the toasting you will get from being flamed.
thank you!
but is there a way to make it scroll a line instead of scrolling a page? tried to edit the settings
I think AE Button Plus is another good alternative. There are free and commercial versions.
V
AE Button is a really good app!

Is This Possible??

Alright Peeps, ok, firstly i bought a Charmer (MDA Compact 2 / WM5) it was pink and i decided to change the housing/shell. I opted for the O2 XDA NEO Case as i liked the black, smooth sides, chrome earpiece & Buttons. I know your all thinking why, but i've tried it and every part fits perfectly apart from the button arrangement, I was just wondering if i bought a O2 XDA NEO Keypad which has the exact same connection type as the MDA Compact 2 just the extra 2 buttons, could this work out of the box and recognise all buttons or at least the usual 4 buttons work correctly?, or is there, or could one be made, an application that the buttons could be assigned? please any help would be appreciated, as i love modding my charmer from the wise information within XDA-DEV, your the only site i'd look to for honest answers.
Cheers Bren.
just an opinion, don't go spending money because of it
but from my experience doing similar things with htc smartphones, I reckon it should work, but i doubt it will recognise the extra buttons...
maybe with a cooked ROM?...i don't know.
triplejay said:
just an opinion, don't go spending money because of it
but from my experience doing similar things with htc smartphones, I reckon it should work, but i doubt it will recognise the extra buttons...
maybe with a cooked ROM?...i don't know.
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could there not be some registry tweaks? like adding the buttons manually and moving the others?
i have a button remapping software, but this may be more useless than usefull, i think (it'll probably just move the buttons around) i've bought the shell already and fitted it all buttons work and are in correct place, just the keypad... I'll buy the keypad and fit it coming up to christmas, i'll let you all know the outcome, so if there is any charmers that wish to charm with a prophet/XDA NEO case to the full, i will have the answer.
Any ROM Chefs or Registry Raiders? Help would be appreciated here...
or just shine a little light on the subject.
I think the person who might be able to shed some light is vlodeck, he is a very knowledgeable guy, and he ported gullum's ROM from prophet to charmer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1446686&postcount=1
as a mod, he will probably see this thread anyway, and his time is valuable etc etc, so I am definitely not advocating pestering him
....so wait a while but in case it gets missed, FYI in his sig there is a link to PM "if you need help"
*edit, I have no new information right now so I'm not gonna bump this thread but I have to say...
just saw your other thread, and the one word answer;
rtfwplsthx
made me spit coffee all over my monitor as I LOL'd
(translation - read the f***ing wiki please, thanks.)
I understood it, as I've probably spent too much time reading forums like this one recently
Hi guys
I finally read this thread Yes, I do check up the Charmer forums from time to time.
Ok, as to the question. I don't really do the cooking stuff at this time. Basically because I'm not a windows user anymore but there are registry values for soft keys and buttons. I won't tell you were it exactly is right now, but it's there. And taking myself a little in the past I recall some major problems with setting up the keys in WM6 for charmer, you remember it right? Those calendar and contacts buttons were assigned to Start Menu and OK keys, which were unconfigurable, in the registry at least. So my call is, those buttons you want to make work are hardly worth the potential time spent to actually get them working
Hi, the buttons you had trouble with kinda goes with what i want, like you said the bottom two buttons (calendar/contacts) were start menu and ok, as the keypad for the o2 xda neo has start menu and ok as standard bottom two, so that doesn't need changing (that sound like a bonus to me ) the top two will probably get recognised as the answer/endcall buttons (which is not that bad come to think of it, if buttons cannot be configured). its just the two silver answer/endcall present on the xda neo keyboard which probably wont get recognised, and if not, would there be a way in the registry to ADD them, so it would be a little different than altering settings already there? sort of copying all registry settings for one button and adding it alongside another button setting with some configuration.
Thanks Guys...
Well the Buttons worked straight away, charmer to prophet (lookalike)... all the 6 buttons were recognized instead of 4, and all in the right places. thanks anyway.

switch to efficiency! hw button+tsk mgr= bum!

Dear developers,
I have a kind of sickness called reading.
So I bought this lovely monster but despite I have installed the "friendly" showcase I have some problem in reading using my dictionary(slovoed)
To switch on the fly between album(I have scanned books..lovely) and slovoed, or slovoed and ubook/ereader/foxit reader/adobe/opera I have to push the windows hardware button and then tap on the application. Now the problem arise because I read always in my leisure and I have to follow the procedure outlined above every day thousand times!
I thought that could be really usefull if I could use the volume up and down as in windows xp we have alt+tab.
Ok I am aware that I could install a button hardware sw, but the problem would be that assigning to an hardware button the launch of the task manager, then I have to tap the application i am looking for. Anyway I would remember with opera is not pratical to use a classical showcase tsk manager because you have to tap before to obtain the external gui.. and furthermore it is not pratical at all do not use switch between the wi fi and roaming having the task manager inserted on default
thanks
trocchietto said:
Dear developers,
I have a kind of sickness called reading.
So I bought this lovely monster but despite I have installed the "friendly" showcase I have some problem in reading using my dictionary(slovoed)
To switch on the fly between album(I have scanned books..lovely) and slovoed, or slovoed and ubook/ereader/foxit reader/adobe/opera I have to push the windows hardware button and then tap on the application. Now the problem arise because I read always in my leisure and I have to follow the procedure outlined above every day thousand times!
I thought that could be really usefull if I could use the volume up and down as in windows xp we have alt+tab.
Ok I am aware that I could install a button hardware sw, but the problem would be that assigning to an hardware button the launch of the task manager, then I have to tap the application i am looking for. Anyway I would remember with opera is not pratical to use a classical showcase tsk manager because you have to tap before to obtain the external gui.. and furthermore it is not pratical at all do not use switch between the wi fi and roaming having the task manager inserted on default
thanks
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Hi, only a suggestion: LMT has a builtin taskswitcher. Use the onscreen gestures "DoubleArrowRight" and "DoubleArrowLeft" for "nextApp" and "previousApp" (alt+tab).
LMT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629263
noname81 said:
Hi, only a suggestion: LMT has a builtin taskswitcher. Use the onscreen gestures "DoubleArrowRight" and "DoubleArrowLeft" for "nextApp" and "previousApp" (alt+tab).
LMT: [/url]
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mmh thanks but it is a waste of time to write on the screen when I could switch with the apps with the volume, I think it is really pratical, and to be honest I can not figure out why none thought about that. I think everone would desire such a fast application, I mean one of the key issues using a pda has always been the lack of praticity in this kind of multitasking functions, but of course it is my idea
trocchietto said:
mmh thanks but it is a waste of time to write on the screen when I could switch with the apps with the volume, I think it is really pratical, and to be honest I can not figure out why none thought about that. I think everone would desire such a fast application, I mean one of the key issues using a pda has always been the lack of praticity in this kind of multitasking functions, but of course it is my idea
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Erm.... His answer is NOT a waste of time. It is almost exactly what you have asked for and will 100% solve the problem that you have proposed. Can you please tell us why it HAS TO BE the volume buttons that flip applications? You told us that you want to switch between 2 different apps, back and forth, and the answer given above does exactly that. Please give a different suggestion as to the use of volume buttons, rather than an impractical one.
johncmolyneux said:
Erm.... His answer is NOT a waste of time. It is almost exactly what you have asked for and will 100% solve the problem that you have proposed. Can you please tell us why it HAS TO BE the volume buttons that flip applications? You told us that you want to switch between 2 different apps, back and forth, and the answer given above does exactly that. Please give a different suggestion as to the use of volume buttons, rather than an impractical one.
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I apologize! I will try the software recommended. anyway I have monitored an other issue, when I switch applications especially with the notes, that I love to use jointly to swaype, unfortunately for some reason the keyboard change to the default one, that for me has less effectiveness than swype that instead it is really cool to write notes on the fly of the document I suppose to read.
cheers dear chap, good for you that do not need a dictionary to look up English words like me . Anyway I have to consider that also when I open my books scanned on album when I switch I have tracked some issues, being the page focused not the one I have formerly open, but the total thumbnails/previews.
OT btw I apologize also for my English, just one year of practice
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603186
I've just installed the free AE Button Plus and I note that there is an Alt Tab function which you could assign to a hardware button on the HD2.
Better yet, just assign each of your many programmes that you mentioned above (slovoed/ubook/ereader/foxit reader/adobe/opera) to different buttons and you can launch any programme you want instantly - directly. No need to cycle through Alt Tab to find the programme you want.
You may ask - HD2 does not have enough buttons for each and every programme I use? Well, AEBPlus recognises single button press as well as double, triple and long hold button presses meaning that each button can have up to 4 assigned actions. There are some restrictions to this though - see the above forum.
Hope this helps!
ayhansan said:
See:
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Hope this helps!
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dank u well!

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