New to XDA EXEC - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hello one and all.
I have been looking at this forum for about 1 week and i'm still none the wiser. This may be because I have no idea what im doing and I am a little worried about making rom changes as I have no experinace of this.
I have a 02 exec. Which i am happy with but its a bit slower than I thought it would be. The phone seams to mess around when answering.
I have booted it up as normal on the basic setting.
A few questions that I have :-
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
Any advise would be good. If it could be given in a format my 2 year old could understand that would be good for me.
Thank you in advance

You'll find a wealth of information on each of your questions by browsing & searching the posts already on this forum.

thanks moandal that's why I posted.
1 post says basic setup another say corporate. 1 post says hack this that and the other. another says not to.
I'm new to pocket pc.
these forums do not make it clear what is best.
example radio version 1.06 or 1.08 at least 3 posts on here saying each one is better than the other. I have no idea.
all I was asking for is some guidance as to which set up has worked best for people.

@CRJL you've one up on me mate - I did not even know this thing had two modes!!!
BTW, why is that? Someone mentioned somewhere a corporate password - how to enter this & why would I want it.
BTW CRJL, I agree with you, these little devices are very confusing, espcially because the front end software (WM5) is soooooooo labourious!
Andy

when you hard reset the thing. after all the rom stuff loads up it gives you the choice of basic set up or corporate. it selects basic automatically after 20secs.
if you tell it corporate then you have to put the code 0506 in. this the uninstalls some stuff off the exec. you loose mms and all the gprs an 3g settings for conecting to the net. (i don't know what else it does) some of the people in the forums say it makes the exec faster. I could not really notice any difference.
you loose a few applications as well.
until I learn more I'm staying in basic.
I find these forums are for more advanced users so the simple questions tend to get missed. (im talking abot my first post) still not had a reply answering my questions

CRJL said:
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
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for this you should first make a hard reset (carefull, with hard reset you will loose all data!) by pressing both app buttons and reset at the same time.
When it starts up, after the installation countdown shows up you should make a reset to stop the automatic setup.
Now you have a machine, which is only basic setup. See how you like the things in there.
After you now enough about this, you can make same hard reset again and start the corporate setup. Then see, how you like this setup.
After this do same with basic setup.
In total you have then an idea, what you can have with the 3 different setups.
Now you can decide, which of the 3 setups you want to start with. After this, you should read the posts about Extended Rom, how to unlock it, which programs are in there etc. Then you get an idea for example how to install some software in the basic setup.
Also, you can add some programs from other Roms. For example I have an MDA Pro and I added the I-Mate Backgammon game to my setup.
Try out and see what customizations you want and need, which you do not want.
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What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
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Basically, this does not really make difference. Forget about reg changes. Performance depends on running programs and setup - see above.
As far as I know, o2 installs some app in the basic setup, which makes the device slow. As I never tried o2 rom, I do not know, if this is true.
CRJL said:
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
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read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
here also I recommend to try out the software and just keep the ones you like.
In total I would recommend you to create a directory on your PC where you put all the setup and cab files, which you want to have in your final setup. After trying out all, make a hard reset again and install the files from this directory. This prevents any junks to be left behind from your previous tries.
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VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
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I think, you get more problems than it helps. Some programs appear too small on the screen. And when you make a Romupdate this does not work anymore.
I recommend not to install any VGA Patches. Instead just set the text size to more small and search in this forum for some registry hacks to change system font etc. and see if you like it, when the font is more small (this is good for Opera or PIE as you can view complete page!)

Nice reply, thanks mate!
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yes
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what are the ><ahem, ahem>< "app buttons"
Andy (thicky wicky Blacky wacky Adder)

thank you. I will give the 3 setups a go. I did read that if you soft reset before the counter that video calling does not work.
will give it a go and see what happens I'm sure there will be a cab file on here to sort it out.
anyone wishing to add any pearls of wisdom fee free. I'm learning more and more all the time.

app buttons: the buttons on the keyboard, which have changing functions. these functions are shown at the bottom of the screen. These buttons can be found to the right and left of the red and green call buttons on the keyboard.
about video calling: yes, this feature is installed after you switch on first your device. it is activated with one cab file. If you can find out which cab file this is, you can install it manually in the basic setup.

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Speeding up WM5

Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)
Yes they work!
Yes they work beautiful on my Jasjar, the device is noticeable faster in all the applications.
Thank you!
Rodrigo Gonzalez
Cache settings, hum... how safe is this?? I take the chance and test them
Morituri said:
Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)
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hi. please could you tell me is i need to insert the full value "0x1000(4096)" or only one of them? thank you,
Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal
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Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal
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so for ex in hex 0x1000
sorry but registry is like crystal...
Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal
Yes, "0x1000" in Hex is identical to "4096" in decimal. Put whichever one you want into the relevant registry entry.
I've messed about with these registry settings too, but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....
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but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....
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me too...
But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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No changes in the performance of the device.
The only change is battery draining faster than the original settings.
I've done these changes before and had to reflash the ROM again to my device.
I don't see any need to make these changes, and I don't advise any one to do them.
Regards,
These registry settings have been reported to increase performance by many users on different forums, some using the Dell Axim x51v ,BA users and even some Universal users and are even incorporated into tweaks2k2. My advice is to try them for yourself and make sure the changes are actually being applied after a soft reset and then perform some tasks on your device (see the post by Carnivor) and then make your own judgement. No one so far has reported any negative impact apart from a small reduction in program memory. The changes can always be reversed if needed.
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But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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Erm... so is this registry tweak adding cache memory to the system for running applications then? So that .exes or .dlls that are loaded when a program is run are available more quickly to the system next time they're needed?
If so (and I can't quite believe that this could be the case ), are we now recommending that we allow programs to stay resident in memory to speed up the machine?
... much like the standard PocketPC "Minimise, not close" behaviour that people seem to hate so much?
LMFAO if so! (and please tell me I'm wrong if not! )
SiliconS,
You are absolutely wright.
The proof is that after making the registery editing the application when opened for the first time it does not open on a faster way than the original settings, but when you open it for the second time it opens faster that the first time.
The appications remain opened in the phone memory and reduces the devices memory and the battery life as well.
Microsoft's WM5 development team must be LTFAO when they read stuff like this. People spend hours complaining and looking for ways of forcing the system to properly close apps using MagicButton or PocketPlus, and complain when their WM5 machine runs slow.
Then someone comes along offering a way of speeding things up by caching programs and files in memory!!
Am I the only person who thinks this is utterly bizarre?
Oh, man. MS must be laughing at us. :shock:
(No offence intended to anybody - I'm just amused by this. )
So, if you are running something like GSPocketMagic, Magic Button, etc, which actually close applications properly, all you are doing is reducing the amount of memory available to run programs with no gain whatsoever?
Well I made the changes and found no improvement in speed, but it was worth a try. In the light of what has been said, I'd like to change back the settings, but can't remember what they were!!!!!
Can someone post up the original values please
Here they are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0
Many thanks - all sorted
Guys, these registry hacks work! If you haven't been able to get them to work you may have missed a step or two.
First of all, Windows Mobile 5 already holds running information in the RAM, so these tweaks do not truly change that but they do enhance it to make the WM5 device runs MUCH better.
I've have had a TON of people comment and e-mail me about these changes both on my site and many others about how well these tweaks work. In fact, I don't think that the developer of Tweaks2k2 would include that in his latest version if it didn't work.
Couple things; you have to either cycle the power on your WM5 device or do a soft reset from a software app only! Cycling the power will write anything in RAM to ROM, in this case the registry settings you have just changed. If cycling does not work you should soft reset your device using a software app. I think there are a couple free apps to do that but you can also use SPB's Pocket Plus or others. If you just hit the reset button on the back after making the changes it soft resets right away without writing RAM content to ROM.
You can check this by looking at your registry settings after a soft reset to see if the changes took.
I have still noticed that sometime after a reset my device will still run slowly but it isn't because of these changes. In fact, most of the time it is perfectly fine and MUCH better than it was before the changes. MUCH!
Be sure to also turn off error reporting and do the activesync hack to keep those from draining battery and you should do well.
Again, many have made these changes and seen a very significant improvement in performance.

Brand new O2miniS: how to tweak to get max performance?!

Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?
o2 mini is a magician init
Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....
He is refering to MiniS mate.
HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.
Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?
Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB
Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB
If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.
Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB
Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.

Why do people keep upgrading ROMS?

I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.
Spenner said:
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R
Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.
I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.
Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.
Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks
I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.
Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.
My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite
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What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.
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Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
cool, thanks paul
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Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.

Wing Processor upgrade programs??

Hi all,
I have been surfing around the forum for a couple of days now and am completely overloaded with all the amazing information available here. I have a Wing that I love (with the exception of the slow speed and the low program memory, of course) and I have been reading all about the different downloads that people have created for changing the page pool (a term I just learned) and over-clocking (again a new word) the processor, and to be honest, with my level of experience with this unit, I am scared.
I am hoping that someone could direct me to a program that I could buy (yes I am willing to pay for it) that would quickly, safely and without configuration from me, allow me to change the processor speed and the page pool. Does such a think exist? I really don't know enough to try doing this on my own.
Also, somewhere on one of these forums, I read a post from someone a couple of days ago saying that T-Mobile was going to be issuing a new update for the Wing - does anyone know anything about that. I keep checking on their page http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/ but it's not shown up yet.
Any help would be appreciated.
Jamie
A simple search+reading wiki would have done the job for you, but, nevermind..
1) for changing pagepool, follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1456991&postcount=1
2)for easy overclocking(which actually everyone here use, that is, batterystatus)
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
thank you for the links - I am hesitant to try the page pool from these directions because, as I said, my experience is very limited. I'm looking for simple, easy to install programs that might address these issues.
kdskamal said:
A simple search+reading wiki would have done the job for you, but, nevermind..
1) for changing pagepool, follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1456991&postcount=1
2)for easy overclocking(which actually everyone here use, that is, batterystatus)
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
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ok, here is what to do to change the pagepool in 2steps
1)install aserg's policies on your device(copy the cab on the device and execute it from the file explorer)
2)make sure that you are connected to actiesync and run the batch file on the PC then(extract the archive first)
soft reset.
l8deblu said:
thank you for the links - I am hesitant to try the page pool from these directions because, as I said, my experience is very limited. I'm looking for simple, easy to install programs that might address these issues.
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Ummm, plug in ur phone, make sure its connected, and then open the pagepool folder and click the one that has a 6 in the file name.....its really not hard, Im pretty sure my dog could figure it out. Dont be afraid to try things. You'll surprise yourself with how much your capable of.
Where is the pagepool folder? I looked in File Explorer and even searched for it by name.... Could I borrow your dog?
chris30_2001 said:
Ummm, plug in ur phone, make sure its connected, and then open the pagepool folder and click the one that has a 6 in the file name.....its really not hard, Im pretty sure my dog could figure it out. Dont be afraid to try things. You'll surprise yourself with how much your capable of.
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l8deblu said:
Where is the pagepool folder? I looked in File Explorer and even searched for it by name.... Could I borrow your dog?
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Follow the post he gave you. It will have a file you download. It's a compressed folder. Uncompress it. THAT is the pagepool folder.
ivanmmj said:
Follow the post he gave you. It will have a file you download. It's a compressed folder. Uncompress it. THAT is the pagepool folder.
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The page pool hack is alot easier than your making it seem. Even if you screw it up, the pagepool just isnt gonna work and your gonna have to start over.
1.Install the ITSUTILS_Preperation cab. (either put it on your wing thru activesync or memory card, once its in the phone just click the file for install).
2. Soft reset after the install (stylus push on small hole, right side of wing)
3. Connect the wing to the pc thru activesync.
4. From your PC double click the backup file.
5. From your PC double click the 6mb pool file. (a black dos screen will scroll a few lines of text and disapper, if no lines of text scroll you have not followed every step...hard reset and try again)
Thats step for step, easy as seducing a hooker instructions.
Hopefully you can figure out batterysatus, if not msg me and ill help you out. Anytime things seem to complex its best to read the post numerous times. Things will start to make sense, and after that if your still haveing problems there are lots of really helpful people on this site.
Good Luck
I would do a power cycle instead of a soft reset to make sure your savings got saved.
Power cycle = holding the power down until it asks you to shut down, then shutting down.
ivanmmj said:
I would do a power cycle instead of a soft reset to make sure your savings got saved.
Power cycle = holding the power down until it asks you to shut down, then shutting down.
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Ive never noticed this, but does a soft reset have a tendency to not save settings Ivan?
Thank you one and all for your patience with me. I did it! I changed my page pool to 6 using the program you recommended and it worked just great. I have between 8-11 MB's left after start up. The only thing I am running is Contact Photo Pro. I don't know if it's a system resource hog or not, but I wanted a program that would allow me to customize separate tones for sms messages and caller tunes for my contacts, and also to have profiles where I can silence just the sms messages and allow phone calls during the night. There might be a better program out there but since I'm still such a newbie, I downloaded what I Could find first.
Again, thanks again for your help. I don't think I am going to overclock yet, as that seems scarier but for now my Wing is running better, and I can take a picture without getting a low memory error!
Airman Gimpy said:
Ive never noticed this, but does a soft reset have a tendency to not save settings Ivan?
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If done quickly enough, yes. I used to do it all the time...
T-Mobile wing
so far T-Mobile has no plans for any updates to the wing. i'll keep you posted if anything changes.
brooks23 said:
so far T-Mobile has no plans for any updates to the wing. i'll keep you posted if anything changes.
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Do you work for tmobile?
If so, that's sad... because they're starting to drag behind the competition... I do love their cheap data plan, though...
Airman Gimpy said:
The page pool hack is alot easier than your making it seem. Even if you screw it up, the pagepool just isnt gonna work and your gonna have to start over.
1.Install the ITSUTILS_Preperation cab. (either put it on your wing thru activesync or memory card, once its in the phone just click the file for install).
2. Soft reset after the install (stylus push on small hole, right side of wing)
3. Connect the wing to the pc thru activesync.
4. From your PC double click the backup file.
5. From your PC double click the 6mb pool file. (a black dos screen will scroll a few lines of text and disapper, if no lines of text scroll you have not followed every step...hard reset and try again)
Thats step for step, easy as seducing a hooker instructions.
Hopefully you can figure out batterysatus, if not msg me and ill help you out. Anytime things seem to complex its best to read the post numerous times. Things will start to make sense, and after that if your still haveing problems there are lots of really helpful people on this site.
Good Luck
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Double click the Backup file? where is that located?

Coming from Symbian - already frustrated

Hi guys (and ladies).
Just spent half a day with the phone and have bunch of questions:
1. Do I need to install DH2 ROM? What are the benefits? (I did a lot of hacks on symbian, but it looks like tutorials on this forum meant for hackers or professionals. is there a ROM for dummies tutorials some place here?
The other is more simple questions:
2. Imported contacts have "w" for waiting before extension numbers. Phone seams to ignore them. How to dial with extensions?
3. How to lock phone while talking on BT headset
4 I saw a lot of tips involving registry changes. What editor to use for that?
5. I downloaded ActiveSync 4.5 from MS. it looks like not support BT sync. Am I doing something wrong or software needs to be used?
THANKS IN ADVANCE
supplier_new said:
Hi guys (and ladies).
Just spent half a day with the phone and have bunch of questions:
1. Do I need to install DH2 ROM? What are the benefits? (I did a lot of hacks on symbian, but it looks like tutorials on this forum meant for hackers or professionals. is there a ROM for dummies tutorials some place here?
The other is more simple questions:
2. Imported contacts have "w" for waiting before extension numbers. Phone seams to ignore them. How to dial with extensions?
3. How to lock phone while talking on BT headset
4 I saw a lot of tips involving registry changes. What editor to use for that?
5. I downloaded ActiveSync 4.5 from MS. it looks like not support BT sync. Am I doing something wrong or software needs to be used?
THANKS IN ADVANCE
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As for the first question - I dont know what you mean by DH2 ROM.
and I would guess most of the people on this forum do have at least some development experience (not necessarily for WinMo devices, but still), and would probably not bother to explain things that seem to them as basic/elementary, but would try explaining if asked.
2 - try replacing the "w" with a "," (comma), or replacing the "w" with a "p"
( http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/using-the-pause-feature-to-dial-extensions-in-windows-mobile )
3 - dont know, never tried
4 - I use totalcommander for windows mobile, it's free - search for it on google
when starting it - click on the [\] (top right), double click \\plugins, double click registry - and you're there
5 - dont know, never tried
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5. I downloaded ActiveSync 4.5 from MS. it looks like not support BT sync. Am I doing something wrong or software needs to be used?
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Have a look at "Connection Settings" in AS on PC and "Connect via Bluetooth" in AS at the phone.
CeRegEditor
supplier_new said:
Hi guys (and ladies).
4 I saw a lot of tips involving registry changes. What editor to use for that?
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CeRegEditor works on the pc when activesynced.
Much less laborious than pocket pc reg editors.
You can also bookmark reg's, compare registries to isolate and locate reg's, and backup reg's.
To isolate a reg entry, you save the reg, then make a change, then compare before & after reg's to find keys.
Som30ne said:
As for the first question - I dont know what you mean by DH2 ROM.
and I would guess most of the people on this forum do have at least some development experience (not necessarily for WinMo devices, but still), and would probably not bother to explain things that seem to them as basic/elementary, but would try explaining if asked.
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All,
Thanks for the replies. It’s a start for me.
1. My wife's HD2 froze on her when she was playing with her. I did soft reset for her, but she will not do it on her own. I'm afraid if it will happen again the phone goes back to store. Not to complaint, but this was the reason I switch to symbian and never had a problem – NEVER!!!!
But never the less, what we can do to minimize this? (Any program that restarts HD2 with one click?) Or anything else like can close all programs with one click? My wife will not go to task manager until it’s too late.
2. One more question. do i need TC for ARM, x86 or anything else?
3. As for Som30ne remark, I’m not trying to be sarcastic but here what the tutorial says and do not understand it. I need laterally ROM upgrade for dummies like what is HSPL or SPL or what tools to use or where to start. Most of you somehow got to that point.
“DarkForces Team HardSPL by bepe and Cotulla
Please read carefully before installing!
1) To install this HSPL there must be SPL 1.42.0000 on your device.
Otherwise the installation will fail!
To check your SPL version, hold the Volume Down button and do a reset.
It is possible to downgrade to this SPL, by just flashing to an Official ROM
with this SPL version.”
Thanks
what i miss THE MOST is the voice dialing in E71.... i just had my phone language set to romanian and this was it... just press and speak the name...

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