Hey!
I just recently tried to share photo's with my girlfriend's Sony Ericsson T610. I can set up the bond ok, I can send pictures from her phone to my XDAII, but I cant send pictures (or contacts) from mine to hers.
I go to "beam file" select her device, & tap to send........ then it states "sending file 1/1" but that's it, you can see that a transfer is beinng attempted on her phone's display, but the prompt to accept or reject the file never appears. It takes something like 10mins for the XDA to report the failure, and you cannot seem to cancel the transfer - the word cancelling comes up, but then the screen freezes (you can still get to other applications throught the start bar)
Has anyone lese had this problem - will it be fixed by the bluetooth update, or the o2 update..... or anything?
cheers.
I have had exactly the same problem, same situation with a T610, 3 months ago on original ROM.
Haven't tried it after the ROM upgrade though. I'm anxious to know too.
whoops..me too..
it freeezes when i try to send files over BT to other phones!
Hmm..And I can't install BT Tools because it disable ActiveSync via Bluetooth..hmm..
Will try other thirdy part software..
Might have a POTENTIALLY useful piece of info for you here folks...
You see, I'm originally an Orange E200 SPV Smartphone user.
Sad as it might sound, there is NO inbuilt functionality in the phone (Windows Mobile 2003 based) for sending files by BT.
So some clever people who write a third party software File Manager app - Smart Explorer I think it is, decided to include there own support for Bluetooth sending of files in the program.
BUT - this is where things may start getting interesting...
What they found was that with the first beta, phones just like the SE T610 for example, could not receive files.
Testing by them, found that this was because certain types of phones could not receive files via BT, when sent at full transmit protocol speed, and no facility existed for them to simply 'drop down' to lowest common speed.
How they got around this, was by including an option, in the next version of their program, to include a little tick box, to "Send at full speed".
Thus, by default, lower speed is used, so as to ensure full compatibility.
But if you KNOW the device you were sending to supports full speed, you can just check the "Full speed" box as it is sending, at it switches to faster speed.
Relating all that babble and background info to the XDA2 etc, it isn't too far a leap of knowledge, to wonder if the same problem applies, whereby the XDA2 defaults to sending files by BT at FULL transmit protocol speeds, and of course, certain phones, such as the T610, can't receive at this speed, and simply sit there confused.
A guess, nothing more. But based on my experiences of the E200 smartphone, and what the problem was then, I can't help but suspect that the problem of certain phones not being able to negotiate full speed BT transfer, is what might be the issue here too.
Just a thought...
..And so..For transfer Files via BT we Must wait for WM2k3 SE?
..Ehm,Maybe u will find it useful:
I tryed transfer files to Nokia 3650,6600 (Symbian 60 and 70 phones) and sometimes the phones receive the files (but my XDA2 freezes and contiunue show me Sending...) and sometimes freezes at all and don't send nothing.
Regards
So, it means that if sending files from/to another bluetooth pocket pc, then it shouldnt has problem?
I'm the main developer of Smart Explorer for Smartphone 2002/2003. You're right Shadamehr. It seems that the Microsoft BT stack on SP 2002/2003 does not handle correctly the max packet size the remote device accepts. This happens with different devices, such as T68i or T610. I can't confirm yet that this problem also occures with XDA II (I don't have any T610 at the office).
We are actually porting Smart Explorer to Pocket PC (it was only an internal exercise and not planned to be made public). Actually, 95% of the job has been realized. I will try to find a T610 and test file transfer. I'll let you know the result. If there is some interest, we may think about putting this version on our web site.
from what i understand then many mobil phone makers block that
because background pictures and such are being sold
and if people could just share them they would not make as much money
my gf's nokia have a mmc card and i cant even put pictures on the it and choose them as background
if your xda2 can beam to other xda2's and to a pc then putting 2003SE on it is not likely to solve issues with other devices not being able to recieve from it
nice one jacoch - let me know when i can give it a whirl!!!
If its possible to send picuures from a T610 to another T610 and from a T610 to an XDA, it must be possible for a t610 to recieve pictures etc.
my XDA gone back for repairs but should be back with me soon 8)
cheers guys
Well I just tried with the T610 of a friend of mine. It seems that BT stack is even worst on XDA than it is on SPV. I have faced some hangs while shutting down the BT stack. The same appears when trying to send a file when the remote device ask to be bound first. The bounding dialog never appears and SE sit waiting from the answer of the OS. I'm not sure it's bugs as I tried on our development device that is not really fit :? (ROM 1.66)
Anyway, once the XDA II has been bound to the T610, transfer was fine (at slow speed only). I have sent successfully several 40Kb jpeg files. If we decide to make this version public, we will investigate and try to fix these troubles. :wink:
Pleeeeeease let me know if/when I can test it;
Is there any way that the Bluetooth application can be split from the bulk of the OS - to use as a patch for windows PPC? (as if you didn't have enough to do!)
:wink: cheers!
not only the T610
Yea, have tried even with the high end SE P900, still wont accept the transfer... but the PALM units were able to send from an to 7650 and other high end units...
It really sucks to thinks XDA2 is "HIGH END/TECH PHONE" but doesnt connect /file trans thru BT.
ok is bt but is maybe a pb with ir setting read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=46996#46996
Re: not only the T610
pidz111 said:
Yea, have tried even with the high end SE P900, still wont accept the transfer... but the PALM units were able to send from an to 7650 and other high end units...
It really sucks to thinks XDA2 is "HIGH END/TECH PHONE" but doesnt connect /file trans thru BT.
Click to expand...
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I have no problems BT transfer to and receive from SE P800/900.
BT file transfer to mobile phones
I have I-mate running WM2003. As described above I can recieve files from SE T610/630/Z600 but i can't send files to these devices... it writes "Sending 1/1" and that's it... although on T610 the BT sign changes to the one indicating a transfer... nothing happens in fact... for half an hour it couldn't send a 20Kb picture... I have downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools... but what I can't figure out is what is this software at all and how it works? If anyone knows how to make my I-mate (1.66.00WWE) send files to mobile phones, please explain it to me step-by-step.... THANK YOU!!!!
so can anyone tell me a program i can use for sending files over BT. i got HS messenger for texting over BT networks but it requires both devices to be bonded. is this true for all aps? im only looking to send files from my xda2 to another xda2 if it makes it any easier
Bluetooth problems
I have exactly the same problem as Rasputin. My gf has a t610 that I cant send images to.
Is there any development on that program that will allow users to send images to these phones?
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO SEND FILES
*EG: MP3'S,MIDI,JPEGS*
VIA BLUETOOTH ON AN XDA2?
my problem is tha i have a sony ericcson k700i and have managed to bond the devices but i can find no way on my xda2 of sending files to the phone,
i can send them via ir, but when sending a 4meg mp3 its a bit silly... lol
any help/ideas would be much appreciated ;-)
anybody?
anyone have any clues at all?
i just want to be able to send files from my xda2 to my other mobile via bluetooth,
i can send them from my phone to my xda but not the other way.
anybody know how this is/can be done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7852
you are not alone
Hi Guys..
Does anyone can help me with this annoying problems ? since the first day i'am buying my XDA Mini, i can't sending file from my mini to other device via Bluetooth.
Here is the condition :
ROM version : 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date : 03/14/05
Radio Version : 1.11.00
Protocol version : 1337.42
ExtROM version : 1.11.922 WWE
I use standard file explorer to sending , but it doesn't work. I follow my friends idea to use Resco Explorer v.5.15 to sending, but it doesn't work too.
I already activated my Bluetooth Device, paired with my Nokia 7610 Phone and also activated receive all incoming beam, and so on in my Nokia phone bluetooth already activated. But the problem is still the same.
Last time I try to 10Kb file from my mini to Nokia phone, it only stuck in sending progress so i cancel it because i have wait more than 15 minutes !! for sending 10kb file. :x
Does anyone have solution for this problem ?
Thanx anyway.. :wink:
With Bluetooth on... using built-in file explorer just tap-hold and beam. Be sure to check the receiving device and accept the file (this step can be skipped if the receiving device is paired and the sending device--your mini is set to authorized).
With Bluetooth on... Using Resco Explorer check under settings General Options this must be unchecked Use IrDA via OBEX.
I can send files via BT to N7610, N6600, N6630, N3230 etc.
I already follow that, but still gott the problem..
I wouldn't know why it doesn't work as my device could send even when it was still v1.01. try to soft-reset your mini and restart your nokia mobile. then turn on the BT on both and try again... be sure you accept the file transfer on the nokia.
BTW have you installed any BT related application on your mini? Maybe this is causing a conflict?
No. i haven't installed any program or patch related to bluetooth technology. I already perform soft reset and hard reset but the problem is still the same.
I believe the problem not in my Nokia, because i laready test it with sony ericcson T610 and they both work perfectly.
So i think the problem is in my Mini.
then maybe you could take it to a service center and have them take a look at it. good luck.
Thanx Bro.. but bthe procedure in service center takes very long time, perhaps i could find the answer before i bring to them.. Thanx anyway fur ur help ..
you are correct of course... hopefully someone who knows more will come along and help you with your prob.
hallo!
i've got the mda magician since two days, and i love it
all works great, i have the newest update and i have unlocked it with your tool(thank you very much).
the only think that doesnt work is if i want to send a .mp3 file via bluetooth.
about 5 minutes after it started to send, there is standing: failure...
the strange thing is that i can easily receive .mp3 files, and that i can send all other types of files and it does work.
only if i want to send one... and the other one accepts it, it doesnd work!
can you help me?
thx
mayfly
hi i hope you don`t mind me posting this here but i got the same think with my spv m500 that when i send a mp3 via bluetooth it send ok but it take to long to send the mp3 is there a way to sort this out or do all magician do the same think thanks
hi i got a spv m500 is there any way to make send mp3 and files with bluetooh a lot fast or a littel bit better as it to slow and take a long time to send them i hope someone can help me with this
my
rom is 1.12
thanks
hey man,
there is no way to make the bluetooth send the files faster. it all depends on what kind of bluetooth u have. i mean a/b/g.. but seriously i dont think there is any wa to make the files go faster or even better over bluetooth