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Hi all, just a quick question does the Xda exec have a cradle for it or is it USB cable connection for active sync only :?:
tia
No cradle yet from O2, although there's one on the Expansys website that'll be available in November: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126238&asource=127219
It's the car kit I'm waiting for. Now that I have a PDA that sits happily on the desk like an open laptop, a USB lead is fine for me I think.
See docking station here: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7862.htm
hope the keep that price range ....
jah said:
See docking station here: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7862.htm
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otherwise accessories would drain my pockets easily )))
Pretty reasonable price for the cradle though, normally they start off at £30+
Best regards lee
well, www.arkon.com do some Universal mounts (nb. Universal as in one-size-fits-all). I'm using the CM520 (I think - I'll check tonight) which I bought for my old ipaq 4150. It has 2 USB power connections on the bottom and a 3.5" speaker jack, with a speaker in the back. I have a usb to 4150 cable for it but I've just swapped with the usual USB cable that the XDA Exec comes with and it holds it pretty well. I'm a little tempted to add some velcro or something since the XDA Exec is quite porky, but I'll see how it goes for now. I don't know about handsfree though as it's not designed for it. I currently use a Jabra headset for the phone, Tomtom and a bluetooth gps for the satnav - this keeps everything charged and happy. I might get a bluetooth car stereo for the handsfree instead of the Jabra as it does chafe a bit during long journeys...
Does anyone know of any decent cases for the HTC Universal? I've seen a few at PDAir and Proporta, but I'm not 100% happy with them as I'd have to take the phone out of the case before putting it on the cradle.
M
I really don't like the BT headsets yet, still prefer holding a mobile to my ear but the Jasjar is a little big to use with comfort as a phone.
Has anyone thought about using one of these tiny mobiles with BT as a handset paired to the Jasjar? Can this be done.
I would like to holster or belt my jasjar and just drop a normal moby into my pocket???
Also anyone made a bluetooth handset instead of headset, like a mobile but just works as a BT handset?
Regards
I doubt it could be done with handsets at present as the bluetooth specification requires services to be available and for headsets, this is the handsfree/headset profile.
Current handsets look for this to be available on devices to allow audio to go to them, however the current handsets will probably only offer network access, dialup networking, file transfer and possibly a serial port to the jasjar
Interesting concept though, having a handset as a bluetooth headset and something I'd probably be quite interested in seeing developed myself!
er..this sound very odd to me - but then again I only use my Exec as a PDA at the moment.
Anyway, have a look at this as an option (I have ordered one but I know the Universal does not support all the functions yet): http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000-specs.php
With the SE P910 you can load the Contacts database onto the headset!
I've just bought an O2 XDA Exec and has exactly the same thought, but could not get it to work.
It depends on the bluetooth "profiles" supported by the mini-handset. I tried it with my previous Sony Ericsson phone (can't remember the model number, but it's about 2 yrs old) and I could only use the handset as a modem (i.e. not much use). You might have better luck with newer handsets, but I would not rely on any mobile phone shop being able to tell you which incoming profiles the handset supports.
Note that there are likely to be problems with caller-display on the handset as the exec only appears to send the incoming number (not the contact name) to the BT device.
If you're set on this approach, I would suggest trying it on any handset you propose using. I can't see that it's worth spending money on this solution though - you may be better off with a phone and a separate PDA.
In order to get a small handset for day to day phone use, I ended up (yesterday) buying a Sony Ericsson HBH660 headset for £50. It has a small caller number display and the voice recognition system (on the exec) seems to work well for making regular calls. I keep it in my pocket and put the exec in my coat/jacket.
Good luck
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er..this sound very odd to me - but then again I only use my Exec as a PDA at the moment.
Anyway, have a look at this as an option (I have ordered one but I know the Universal does not support all the functions yet): http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000-specs.php
With the SE P910 you can load the Contacts database onto the headset!
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That looks right funky! Where did you buy it from?
@hollinshead
I contacted the ebay seller for this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Tekkeon-Dig...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I paid via PayPal. Should get delivery today or Monday next week.
Or you can buy it from Tekkeon's own online store at their web site (but becareful with import duty etc).
Thanks, I think I'll wait for some UK sellers to get some, and stick to my BT800 for now.
Hi
I badgered some headset manufacturers last year to make the following:
Bluetooth device with handsfree profile (client), included within a *tiny* mobile phone case together with a screen and a keypad, as well as the usual bluetooth headset electronics.
Make it tiny, and trendy - perhaps from brushed aluminium and I reckon such a device would do well. It would have more room inside than a mobile phone case so the battery could be large, and offer perhaps a month of use between charges. It should also charge directly via Mini USB socket and not require any docking stations etc which need lugging about.
Would anyone else here buy such a device, if it were priced at premium headset prices? £50-60 perhaps?
I want it cause holding a universal to your ear causes arm ache! and using a traditional bluetooth headset in a shopping centre make you look like a nob!
Does the headset 1.2 handsfree profile even support a bluetooth headset device with a keyboard?
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I badgered some headset manufacturers last year to make the following:
Bluetooth device with handsfree profile (client), included within a *tiny* mobile phone case together with a screen and a keypad, as well as the usual bluetooth headset electronics.
Make it tiny, and trendy - perhaps from brushed aluminium and I reckon such a device would do well. It would have more room inside than a mobile phone case so the battery could be large, and offer perhaps a month of use between charges. It should also charge directly via Mini USB socket and not require any docking stations etc which need lugging about.
Would anyone else here buy such a device, if it were priced at premium headset prices? £50-60 perhaps?
I want it cause holding a universal to your ear causes arm ache! and using a traditional bluetooth headset in a shopping centre make you look like a nob!
Does the headset 1.2 handsfree profile even support a bluetooth headset device with a keyboard?
Nigel
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I will buy one no doubt!!
Let me know if you find it somewhere.
The max price should be 50£ = 80€
I am supprised there isn't such a device already, a blue tooth handset for skype VoIP is whats required and is probably in the pipeline already, but yes I would buy one.
I am supprised there isn't such a device already, a blue tooth handset for skype VoIP is whats required and is probably in the pipeline already, but yes I would buy one.
Well, I had a reply from Jabra saying that they passed email onto their product development lot.
Prob going to require more than one email tho, so badger away.
No reply from the others as yet.
Nigel
ANYCOM Blue Stereo Headset BSH-100 as a possible solution???
ANYCOM Blue Stereo Headset BSH-100
These Bluetooth-enabled stereo headphones are small, lightweight, and fold up for portability. They include a microphone and can be used as a headset for Bluetooth-enabled Windows Mobile Smartphones and Pocket PC Phone Edition devices. In addition, the headset supports the new High-Quality Stereo BT (A2DP) profile, which is built into the new Windows Mobile 5.0 software. The small, rechargeable battery in the headset powers it for up to 7 hours of continuous use and gives it a standby time of up to 200 hours. The headset weighs a mere 2.7 ounces (76 grams) including battery.
More information is available on the Anycom Web site (http://www.anycom.com). You can pre-order the device for $93.95 from the Expansys Web site (http://www.expansys.com).
Stereo wireless Bluetooth headphones that fold and fit into your pocket!
I have a MR handsfree Pro in my car, and its been pretty good. Anyway - I doubt they will make a connector for the HTC Wizard - would love to be proved wrong of course - so was wondering if anyone knows if you can make a connector?
Thanks
Scott
I don't have a Wizard yet so this is only going by the photos but I think the older Mtotorola/Panasonic adaptor would work. The type that used to fit the Moto V66 and Panasonic GD87 and similar phones.
The type that are just a 2.5mm jack, I think this is what the Wizard has and should work no probs.
Seems the connection is a mini USb. Anyone know if any of the Mr Handfree Pro connectors are also mini USB?
Scott
I still use my old XDA 1 (Himilaya) for sat nav (running TomTom5 - haven't upgraded to 6 yet) with a wired GPS mouse, so both the GPS receiver and XDA are always charging when the ignition is on/engine running. I leave all that kit in the car all the time. I've also got an MDA Pro (Universal) and am thinking of using that for TomTom instead because:
a) Take advantage of the data tariff on it and subscribe to Traffic Plus (or whatever TomTom call it)
b) I also intend to get a Parrot CK bluetooth add on for the car (allow the car speakers to be part of a speakerphone) so I can make/receive calls and also listen to WMAs whilst driving (I hate all headphones)
So, questions.
1) TomTom5 works really well on the original XDA 1 (no crashes, smooth scrolling, very responsive, etc). Will it work just as well on my Universal?
2) If using the traffic service (over GPRS/UMTS), will voice calls still come through OK? T Mobile UK
3) Would pretty much any BT GPS unit off ebay be OK?
4) How long do the batteries last before needing a charge on these BT units?
5) Are there any wired solutions, so I don't need batteries and the Universal could also be on charge? I'd much prefer that.
6) Is the traffic service good? I mean, does it warn/reroute you sufficiently in advance? Does it know, for instance, that some roads are always slow and avoid them?
7) Anything in TomTom6 worth the ugprade over 5?
Or should I forget the traffic (and still rely on the radio) and just stick to the satus quo, or maybe still get the BT thing for MP3/WMAs? Anyone got any experience of a similar setup to report? TomTom5 on the XDA is one of very few tech products with which I'm completely and utterly happy.
Can no one help on any of the questions?
Hi Xiasma,
I sell a Car Kit for £40, which sounds like it should do what you want.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/T-Mobile-MDA-PRO-Handsfree-Custom-Car-Kit-with-speaker-pr-36.html
It'll charge your phone and GPS at the same time, amplify the voice, etc. and comes with 3 different mounts to attach to your car. I haven't sold many and one person is complaining about people not hearing him when he makes recieves a call, although we've proved that the microphone is working correctly. See this thread for an in depth discussion on pro's, con's, etc.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/phpBB-2.0.18/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=275
I have no experiance of other solutions, but I think that as you have problems with loudspeaker, you'll have the same trouble as the guy in the thread. The thread goes on a bit, but I think you'll find it usefull.
Any bluetooth GPS reciever should work well with your phone, but I'd advise going for one with a Sirf III chipset, people seem to find them much better than sirf II. I have some new ones due in next week around the £50 mark, which sound a better deal than any others I sell at the minute.
HTH
Dave
That's great, Dave, thanks. It's got a built in microphone, but does it have line out so I could have the sound going through my car speakers (ie for MP3 and the like)? That would be perfect. Well, almost, I'd prefer to mount the MDA Pro open with the keyboard underneath - I guess this won't allow that, will it?
How many hours use does a good BT GPS unit last between charges?
Hi Xiasma,
unfortunately it doesn't have a line out, but I've seen Y-adapters around for a few pence which could well serve the purpose you require.
As you wish to plug it into your stereo anyway, you don't neccessarily need an amplified mount. Herbert Richter make several suitable mounts and a body which will hold your device with the keyboard open. (Laptop Style) It has cutouts for most buttons, sockets, etc. So you could easily plug your phone in to charge and connect it to your stereo.
Heres a good GPS reciever, the manufacturer claims the battery will last 11 hours. I honestly haven't tested one myself, so I don't know how accurate this info is.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/GlobalSat-359S-Sirf-III-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-pr-42.html
HTH
Dave
Is there a decent one out there that will accomodate the screen being opened, will hold it landscape as well as portrait etc...
Info please...
Hermes car kit for the Kaiser?
Can anybody tell me if the current Hermes car kits will fit the Kaiser?
I contacted Proclip and the said they have them in production and will have them no later then November but hopefully sooner. They are in my opinion the best out there.......no I don't work for them!
www.proclipusa.com
Brodit said a similar thing to me in an email. A couple of weeks.
Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Since they sell only to wholesalers...how do you propose we buy from them?
I don't -- just providing a preview of coming attractions.
This universal kit works well ... especially when you want the keyboard out
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-PDA-Phone-H...yZ130797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
Never had a car kit before, always had a pocket in my car perfect for a phone. Changed car now though and need some sort of holder. Also want to do away with my Bluetooth headset.
Does a kit exist where you put the phone in the cradle, and it both charges and connects to a car head unit/microphone. Obviously not for the Kaiser yet, but if its available for other phones, it will for this in time.
Know some executive cars have this built in and some companies cater for the aftermarket, but they seem to want hundreds. Am capable of installing said kit, just need a place to buy!
How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
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The man speaks the truth - i nearly crashed as i swerved trying to catch my bloody Uni!
lol
dangerous things.. need an alternative!
I like this one
http://www.kidigi.com/Car CHT 9000.asp
as it is much smaller than the mounts which also contain a speaker built into the mount itself. I find these to be fugly and way too bulky.
Also, this is easier to take apart on the end holding the speaker and wire around it so I can run it into my AUX jack in the car. I also have a mic tucked away above the rear view mirror, have wired a spare power socket in the glove box, and tuck the wires under a kuda mount on the dash. It's a very clean look and almost appears original equipment.
All I do is cradle my phone when I get in the car and I have MP3 tunes through the stereo. When a call comes in, I just hit the answer button on the phone and the mic kicks in, while the call comes through the speakers. IMO, better than BT because I can also play my MP3s wihtout having to resort to a downgraded music signal via an FM receiver.
I've been using a very similar setup with my 8125 and also pair to a Bluetooth GPS reciever, which will now be built into my soon to arrive Kaiser Works vey nice.
Downsides? Unless I put some kind of rotation dvice between the kuda mount and the kidigi, landscape mode is a no-go. Could possibly use the seidio model for this at the expense of some additional bulk, but it looks like they have stocked out (www.seidioonline.com). It's also pretty solidly mounted, so if you like the idea of a gooseneck that can be adjusted on the fly, the kuda would not work well.
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How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Was tempted by that, but if i need to run cables in the car to charge the phone, thought i might as well put one to the speakers/mic too. Im lazy too, dont want to get my phone out and turn bluetooth on and off every time i get in and out the car
Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
I had wizard with which i was using holder from Herbert Richter system.
not being disappointed with the quality I'm buying another one for Kaiser.
gps4less have them on ebay for a nice price.
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I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
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Sold!
So, i buy this, cut the speaker/charger off, i then need to extend the cables, one to a 12v, one to a mic and one to my aux in? Never tried anything like this before but willing to give it a shot. Any generic eBay mic do the job?
Car Holder
I have had good luck with Herbert Richter with my Vario and I have just bought the cradle for the Vario III and I imagine it will be just as good, they are great quality and do the job straight out of the box.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-MDA-...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone is interested. They do vent, bike, suction based holders so look at other items.
Russ
does anyone make a car adapter that is compatible with a weighted friction mount?
Garmin devices have this thing called a friction mount that is weighted. basically the underside is a soft rubber material that keeps the base from moving, and it is filled with about a pound (1/2 kilo for those across the pond) of sand. the base is very sturdy. i have taken many trips with this base with no movement at all.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Portab...5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191742690&sr=1-1
My guess is that Garmin are the only one that would likely make any further attachments as they hold the copyright etc, seeing as the HTC devices are competition for them in so much as the TomTom/Copilot route then I dare say it would only be 3rd party taiwanese/chinese companies that are likely to risk breaching the copyright to make such holders to fit on.
Russ