Stock up on those 3G handsets, folks -- they could become very valuable commodities here in the next few weeks. As part of an ongoing series of spats between wireless giants Qualcomm and Broadcom, the US International Trade Commission has ruled that handsets containing Qualcomm 3G chipsets (and that's a whole heck of a lot of handsets) that are manufactured starting today may not be imported into the US. By all accounts, this appears to be much more than legal posturing on Broadcomm's part -- a ban is a ban -- and we've gotta believe this'll resolve itself right quick. But if for whatever reason it doesn't, get ready for an eBay free-for-all in a gloomy, scorched-earth future where the only high speed handsets are pawned for thousands of New Dollars on the black market.
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. International Trade Commission on Thursday imposed a partial ban on the imports of third-generation, or 3G, cellular phones using Qualcomm Inc.'s microchips in a ruling over a patent dispute between the company and rival Broadcom Corp.
The decision means that major handset makers using Qualcomm's microchips in their 3G phones will not be able to import new models into the U.S. after June 7. New phones that are of the same model as those manufactured before June 7 will still be allowed into the country.
.... wait... if they ban Qualcomm 3G, then we'd have NO new 3G handsets ever. How would the US band that? Does Broadcom make CMDA/WCDMA chips as well?
For the love of god, banned.
If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
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For the love of god, banned.
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thank you... was driving me nuts
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If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
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ditto on the kaiser.. that was next on my list...
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If you do some research on it, it comes down to BS if you ask me. What this means is that yes no NEW phone models can be shipped into the USA but phone that where built before june 7th can still be shipped so for ****s sake i hope this does not **** up me getting my kiaser!!!
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is it devices built before june 7th or devices that are already on the market before june 7th?
I think it means devices that are already on the market, not just stock which has already been built.
I'm not sure how much this will hurt qualcomm, but it's more likely to hurt broadcom with less users available.
European wireless use is growing fast and hugely more so in the ASEAN nations so I think that if this ban continues then we'll see some developments that you guys just have to watch enviously. Good for us but bad for you
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is it devices built before june 7th or devices that are already on the market before june 7th?
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For the love of god, ASIAN !
For the love of god...
Association of South East Asian Nations - Google is YOUR friend - I already know what I'm talking about
dmj1973 said:
For the love of god, ASIAN !
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For the love of god... This just too funny!
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For the love of god...
Association of South East Asian Nations - Google is YOUR friend - I already know what I'm talking about
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This will probably hit Qualcomms shares more than anything. You'll find the presure of handset companies on Qualcomm will ensure this issue is resolved ASAP.
There are loads of other chipset suppliers for GSM/GPRS/WCDMA/HSPA radios and baseband. TTPCom, TI, NI, Broadcom, ADI, Phillips etc all have some market share but nowhere near as much as Qualcomm.
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HTC just put up the press release that they launched Desire HD and Desire Z in asia.does this means the wait is over?or WTF?
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=146348&lang=1033
No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...
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No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...
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ah...all right.my bad,then.i just saw it on twitter and thought i should share.sorry
Did you even read the whole thing?
Availability and pricing
The new HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z will be available through mobile operators and retailers across major Asian markets from November 2010.
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Did you even read the whole thing?
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somehow i missed that.i wouldn't post anything without reading.not in this flaming society.
i said i'm sorry.maybe i'm too exited about this phone.
Is this thread even necessary?
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Is this thread even necessary?
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Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...
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Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...
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No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums
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No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums
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so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.
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so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.
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DUDE... don't be sorry... when i read the tittle of this thread, i was exited!!!
Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)
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Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)
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Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.
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Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.
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As I know these phones are not getting officially into China - all will be grey import. I dont believe this import will come from Europe but from other Asian locations - Taiwan, HK, Singapore, Malaysia etc. Mass supply (grey import) starts after local techie community is ready with Chinese ROM. The distributors are re-flashing the sets and then putting them on the market.
Before Chinese ROM available there will be imported only very limited number of sets - the reason for the "hefty price" in the beginning. No RRP as no official channels, but in general expect the "normally priced" phones to be cheaper than in Europe.
The funny is to get a phone with stock ROM I made a "special request order" with the supplier
I too appreciate the posting. Any news about the DHD is considered relevant info. Sure, some stuff will be more relevant than other, and sometimes news will be repeated, but come on... let us all play nice, and appreciate that our friends share all the cool stuff they find about the DHD. Personally, I appreciate this thread.
For those who read chinese. This site captured quite a fair bit of the "Launch Party" in Taiwan.
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=37208
City AM claims that Carphone Warehouse has signed an agreement with google to distribute the nexus two before christmas. no info about what manufacturer will make the phone, but it will ship with gingerbread and replace the N1 as the dev phone.
http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/google-and-carphone-mobile-deal
This would be awesome, I just hope it isn't too good to be true.
UK only? i dont understand why that would be..
i am assuming they have exclusivity for the UK, probably not for the US. i think they are somehow related to best buy, which could possibly mean the n2 will be sold in "actual" stores.
There's no Nexus Two and there will be no Nexus Two
It could be real because we need a next generation developer phone for more advanced stuff that the old Nexus One doesn't support due to its current hardware. In order for Google to develop a better on screen multitouch keyboard, and other advanced gestures, the Nexus One's poor touchscreen won't do it. If Gingerbread is confirmed to have native front facing camera support, they will need a new hardware with a front facing camera to test it on. Google might also add a gyroscope and other innovative hardware (including a higher resolution screen) in the new phone to set another standard for the 2011 high end Android phones.
4"screen with front facing camera...
I would get it...
nexus two article from phandroid
Nexus Two Launching Alongside Gingerbread in Time for the Holidays?
by Kevin Krause on October 26th, 2010
An interesting report has surfaced from London-based business paper City A.M. that claims the followup to the Nexus One — what very well could be dubbed the Nexus Two — will be released through an exclusive deal with Carphone Warehouse in the UK as the second Google-branded Android handset. This comes as a new but similar approach to the sale of the original N1, moving away from a single Google-owned site pedaling the smartphone but still bucking carrier obligations.
Other than the fact that City A.M. happens to be a pretty reputable source, we have plenty of reasons to believe the Nexus Two is real. What better way to launch the latest update to Android, Gingerbread, then alongside a brand new Nexus handset? The discontinuation of sales through Google of the Nexus One over the summer and the throttling back of N1 support through the soon to be read-only forums all hint at an upcoming successor, especially after Google bigwigs remain incessant that they haven’t given up on their handheld ventures, only the model they originally used to sell mobile phones.
Questions still remain unanswered, including which manufacturer might take the reigns on the Nexus Two. Google could very well stick with HTC, though Motorola and their top-secret Tegra 2 handset remains a viable option. Heck, we may have even already spied the Nexus Two floating around as a codenamed device. What’s your guess?
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It appears you missed the link in the OP.
This isn't some random android blog reporting it.
I hope this is true. Been waiting for a proper Nexus replacement with an eay unlock bootloader. The G2 is not cutting it...
Hopefully it comes with a keyboard, if not then I will still buy it.
That news article does give life to a possible N2
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Uhh...
What the heck is CityAM?
I've never heard of it.
I smell another "HOLIDAY EDITION NEXUS"/ and it smells like fresh baked gingerbread.
This is highly problematic, as someone who just got a G2. haha
I'm glad I didnt get a G2 now.
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In May 2008 Best Buy agreed to buy a 50% share of The Carphone Warehouse plc for £1.1 billion to launch the Best Buy Europe joint venture.[20] The first store is set to be open in Thurrock, Essex.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carphone_Warehouse
Wikipedia I know but still.
It wouldnt work unless a huge company sold it.
If it came from the UK it wouldnt be HSPA+ compatible.
I am getting one the day it hits !
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I'm glad I didnt get a G2 now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carphone_Warehouse
Wikipedia I know but still.
It wouldnt work unless a huge company sold it.
If it came from the UK it wouldnt be HSPA+ compatible.
I am getting one the day it hits !
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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I don't see why creating two versions should be a problem, they did it with the N1, why not the N2
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I hope they get best buy on board. Adopt them for att and one for tmobile with HSPA+....yummy.
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Dude. Really ?
Best Buy owns 50% of Carphone Warehouse.
? ?
Best Buy has skin in the game.
They are on board.
N1 is still a highly capable device. Don't see a reason why Big G would release N2 so soon. HTC and Samsung are making more powerful devices that can support gingerbread so hardware is already there.
Could be the Samsung Google experience phone ...
It seems like there are threads on release dates for many countries except the U.S! So this thread is for people with any information on the release date in the states. =)
I hear ya, I'm am so ready to buy this phone... now if t-mobile usa would speed up the process a bit I could quit driving my wife crazy surfing for anything related to the GS2
What we need to do is to create an online group for wives of phone addict xda members who can't stop researching new devices and roms. Then, they'll spend all day on that forum and won't notice we're ignoring them. My wife just doesn't understand that I NEED this phone on T-Mobile.
I hope you guys get it soon... just like us up north here in canada... but as for tmob getting it... the current international version doesn't have AWS support so that may hold it up a tad for them... just like WIND here... hope that doesn't burst a bubble... and if you already knew that... sorry!
This guy will do T-Mobile 3G, cough cough, 4G? It's a plus device?
It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
I may have missed it, but is AT&T going to be getting this phone?
I keep hearing about tmobile but no AT&T talk. If not then i am going to be very very sad.
to my knowledge AT&T's bands are supported on the international version and as a result if carriers are smart and release the actual model and don't demand variants then you should be in the clear
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It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
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That's really ****ty if they hold it off till July considering the rest of the world get's it in about a week or two.
I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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Indeed. I'm ready for one, NOW, to use with T-Mobile. Group buy, perhaps?
It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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I'm almost positive the SGSII will be available on all carriers it's just a matter of timing on the release just like it's predecessor =).
Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May. Now how long into may or if it gets released is the question. Right now I'm looking to upgrade to a smartphone and grandfather in.
So far Galaxy S 2 is looking pretty sweet and I want it
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Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May....
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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Well so far, all the phones on that list have been released at about the right time :O, so not really sure if it's april fools joke. The list had specific dates for all the other phones except for instance bionic/galaxy s 2, where it said "May" for their releases.
I'm hoping for the may release so I can get grandfathered in with the Galaxy s 2 !!!!!! *crosses fingers**
I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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and that is exactly why I created that thread about SGS3, but people are just laughing there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049529
Since SGS2 may not even penetrate the market by the Fall of 2011, it is possible the US carriers will just skip SGS2 and go straight for SGS3.
I hope not because then we won't get the SGS2 this fall and will have to wait until February 2012 before the US carriers get around to destroying the device with useless and unwanted carrier changes and blotware and finally release the GS3 to NA that came out in the UK in September lol
I wish Samsung, HTC, Motorola and the other major players would just stand up to the US carriers and say "This device hits the market internationally in May you have until then to do what ever modifications you feel necessary and send the device to us to verify it meets our QA to ensure they don't cut corners to meet the deadline. If you don't have your modifications done by that time you have to release the device the way it was intended free of carrier modifications. If you don't comply with this then you won't get a flagship device that is required to meet your sales goal for the quarter and compete with other carriers that meet these requirements and have our flagship devices available"
How hard would that be, the carriers HAVE to have the newest flagship devices to complete in the high end market if the device manufactures would start throwing their weight around and refuse to release devices to the US market the carriers would have no choice but to back down. Sure that would mean an initial delay in the US for some devices while the carriers cry about not getting their way but eventually they would have no choice but to give in and then then the NA market not only gets all of our future devices in a reasonable time frame they aren't all ruined by the carriers petty attempt to stand out from each other. I don't know about anyone else but personally I would be willing to not have the SGS2 available if it meant I got the SGS3 when it was released in the UK free of carrier modifications and bloatware and that is ultimatly what this would come down to. The NA market misses a generation of top end devices but in return starting with the generation after that we don't have any more of this BS. I can suffer a little in the short term for a worth while long term reward. Plus I would bet money the smaller carriers who are trying to take a chunk out of the big guys market would love the chance to pick up flagship devices that the 3 major carriers missed out on because they wouldn't leave the device alone and just release it so it isn't like the devices would be totally unavailable you could still always get it from say Boost or T-Mobile who are more worried about customer satisfaction than adding bloatware and acting like a petty child who has to try and make his new toy "better" than the other kids or buy the international version and add it to a supported US network like many are doing with the SGS2
. i was at ces yeterday at the samsung booth. there was a guy givig the samsung rep a lot of grief for the shoddy updaate rolllout for the us, the samsung rep said we'd have the update "very soon". since it was running on the note 10.1 with lte for verizon one would hope so. it really seems like they delayed the us upate so verizon could have something unique. the guy also asked about the keyboard dock andt he samsung rep said he didn't know but suspected now that verizon was gettting the lte unit samsug would bring the dock to the us. apparenly a marketing decision
as for jellybean on the note it looked great.it is really multi-windows and not split screen. windows are resizeable. switcching lag is gone,
Let's hope it's by months end.
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The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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Here's a link to Engadget's Myriam Joire's interview on stage of Samsung's Ryan Bidan yesterday. Joire owns a WIFi Note 10.1 and asked when those of us in North America will get the JB update. Bidan said soon, too. He also said the Verizon LTE tablet will ship with JB 4.2.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/samsung-interview/
I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
I have to agree with you, transcode of the biggest reasons why I'm not happy with these delays..
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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Dude, im in EU and exactly in the same boat as you are.. Didnt even get the Exfat fix update.. Only thing is I'm still on the stock 4.0.4 so Meh :banghead:
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Uk & Germany got it because were special
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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LOL, I don't think the corporate types like the look of foil with their expensive suits. This is about the reality of corporate relationships and marketing. LTE may be more widely deployed in North America right now but it will be rolled out elsewhere. As it reaches 3G markets, users will find LTE services and devices categorized and priced as premium, top-of-the line . Like it or not, Samsung will repeat the roll out of the LTE GN 10.1 for Verizon with other carriers around the world as those carriers deploy their LTE networks to try to keep up with the 24/7 demand for fast and voluminous amounts of data and entertainment services like streaming. Carriers pay for tweaking and branding and Samsung and all other companies will happily reserve updates and features for a carrier launch even if it makes individual consumers unhappy.
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
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Yes and no. Granted, Verizon is a larger customer than we are as individual consumers. However, I do not want a Note with telephony. I have a phone. And if the poll here is to be believed wi-fi only constitutes the majority of Note buyers. Thus, Samsung ignores us at their peril, and by us I mean we individual users with wi-fi only and the retailers selling us these units.
Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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If u bought it in december, it is the wifi only model....the lte model comes out sometime this month only on verizon.
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I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
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Yeah but at least apple launches the same update to every device to every country on the same day. Instead of taking some darts and randomly throwing it at a world map which is what it looks like they are doing.
Soju+koreans+darts = irregular JB update schedule.
*Update* I'm an idiot!
I was inquiring with T-Mobile about new service, and mentioned I'll be waiting until the Galaxy S6 launches. The representative told me I would have to wait until May 5th when it starts shipping. I know how unreliable carrier representatives are, however it's something. I was a sales rep with VZW for a few years, and we were typically told release dates a month or so before launch.
It's just one rep and they could be totally wrong, but I haven't heard of any other speculative release dates.
Cheers
Pretty sure it's widely known that the release date is April 10th..
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Pretty sure it's widely known that the release date is April 10th..
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Right you are. I did a dozen google searches and found nothing until I added April 10. More incorrect information from reps!!! The sky is still blue.
Thanks mate.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Pretty sure it's widely known that the release date is April 10th..
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Yea, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the carriers in each country are going to actually get them and release them on that date, does it? I mean, look at the Nexus 6. It's just *now* being released on VZW US.
Every single carrier in my country will be selling it from April 10th including retail stores. Would be strange if VZW US would recieve it any other date unless Samsung just dont like them and have them singled out Or maybe carriers are just slow in the US I don't know. Maybe the extra time is because your carriers fill your phones with bloatware which they don't do here at all.
thyttel said:
Every single carrier in my country will be selling it from April 10th including retail stores. Would be strange if VZW US would recieve it any other date unless Samsung just dont like them and have them singled out Or maybe carriers are just slow in the US I don't know. Maybe the extra time is because your carriers fill your phones with bloatware which they don't do here at all.
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verizon usually takes forever because they have to install tons of bloatware and branding
GreeleyXda said:
verizon usually takes forever because they have to install tons of bloatware and branding
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Which returns me to a question I posed in another thread. Why the f*** do Samsung and other manufacturers have to put up with getting railed in the ass by VZW and other carriers with bloat and other limitations, but Apple does not? I just don't get why manufacturers like Samsung cannot negotiate similar deals as Apple.
eyc said:
Which returns me to a question I posed in another thread. Why the f*** do Samsung and other manufacturers have to put up with getting railed in the ass by VZW and other carriers with bloat and other limitations, but Apple does not? I just don't get why manufacturers like Samsung cannot negotiate similar deals as Apple.
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I assume Samsung/Moto/LG get a small kickback from carriers for allowing the installs. Much like Amazon, dropbox, etc. come preinstalled on devices. Apple of course doesn't care because they have the highest mobile profits in the industry. I hate to admit it, but they place customer satisfaction higher than most OEMs. Granted, GPE phones are in the same boat as iPhones . However, GPE are not sold in stores because the carrier has no incentive.