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XDA2 user interface

i had the pleasure to hold in my hands the new xda2 for a few seconds this week.
I noticed that o2 totally redesigned the today screen of windows mobile 2003. Very nice! larger icons in the center of the screen, not only the start drop down menu. a bit like a palm. anyone seen that version arround here?

oh, and btw:
this is what else i liked:
-great screen, much more vibrant and sharp
-seems to be a bit lighter
-and of course no antena
- pictures from the camera look decent
- SD/IO slot on top seems like a good place instead of the bottom. I wont drop my sd card again this way
downs, if any
it's a bit thicker than the old one..so it wont look any better in your pants' pockets.

To stamp with impatience :lol: :lol: :lol:
More than two months for waiting
:roll:
Any idea about price :?:
:wink:

the nice lady who showed it to me had no idea about the price. :wink:

Can I ask where you say it, was it UK and was it at an exhibition?

Does it use the same bottom connector as the XDA2????

odd all the pictures i've seen of the mda2 and xda2 looked as if they had the SD connector in the buttom

I would like to have XDA II right now
:?: :?:
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Everybody has the same idea?

i saw it at an exibition, thats right. although not UK, it was a trip to Germany
dunno about the buttom connector but i am pretty certain that the SD slot is on top

screenshots?
have anyone any screenshots of this new interface?
I'm really really interest, because I work up and research for more useful Today Screen.
Some of my concept is here:
http://www.geocities.com//myppcpe2003/
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where?
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.

Re: where?
JGUI said:
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.
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That article is about an MDA-II from T-mobile, while in the originator of this thread talked about an XDA-II from O2.
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
GrTz !

Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.

k_kirk said:
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.
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Wow! Hold your horses! I was just trying to suggest that the GUI might have some O2 customization and the mentioned URL shows pictures of the T-Mobile model, not the O2 model.
I hold nothing against any particular provider: they all have found their own unique and distinctive way to screw us

X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers

k_kirk said:
X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers
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Ok, no problem: we have a common target then

I do know a few things here for sure:
- the SDIO slot is at the top, NOT the bottom!
- there will be some kind of O2 menu, maybe the same as their new mobiles?
- definitely has bluetooth built in
- supports WLAN via SDIO
- same connector in bottom, but different charger, so not all cables and accessories will work 100% between models i think
Looks very, very good - I have also had a brief play with one.
XL

spv m5000 discontinued

Orange business support tell me the 5000 has been discontinued. Initialy it was simply showing as out-of-stock (friday 4th, the day they agreed to give me one as an upgrade), but now they say it's discontinued.

I was trying to buy one in Orange last Friday, and they still sell them, but consider them obsolete, replaced by Hermes.
V

they told me that they have no stock and that none of the orange shops have stock, and that there would be no more deliveries to them... are you saying you know of an orange shop that does have stock?

Orange on Cheapside, London had them on Friday. They didn't seem to sugest that they were out. I'm going down there a little later today, so I'll try to ask if they have more. Otherwise, give them a call!
V

thanks...I realy want a 3g unit with a keyboard and a 1024*768 screen that fits in my pocket, and runs remote desktop. VGA will be tolerable, but qvga will be a challenge!

SimonPearse: I really want an 8 inch device that won't fit in my pocket, but it's not happening...
I spoke to the guy at Cheapside today, (Cheapskates, they told me I'd get £50 trade in, and gave me £10), and he said that he could find some Universals on the sales system around the country. You can try getting them to do a stock order for you.
The Universal is a nice system, but I wonder if HTC has backed out of that form factor, but replacing their only VGA device with the Hermes, as nice as it is, is quite a slap in the face for that technology.
FYI, I've been told that VJFullscreenTSC can be run with a virtual screen app to run Terminal Services/Remote Desktop at 1024x768 on the Universal.
(VGA screenshot)
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V

I had a similar problem. The Orange call centre had offered me a discount for the phone. Then me they had just discontinued the M5000 and although I was aware of some being in stock in one or two of the shops, I was told that they couldn't arrange a discount with the shops because the shops were all franchises.
I arranged to disconnect, and then wrote a complaint to the executive office. A week later, I got a call from a nice lady saying she managed to track one down in a shop nearby. She said if I paid for it at the shop, then Orange would send me a refund for the agreed discount.
I received mine on Thursday. I like it a lot and the screen is amazingly clear. However, it can be very slow and impossible to use without a memory card and a bit of tweaking. These boards will tell you most of what you need to know.
That might be why they've been trying to rid of it. Also, they are heavily promoting their new SPV M3100, which has just as good specs, except that it is smaller and not a clamshell, so may not meet your requirements.
Having said that, after I did the tweaking and installed a 1gb memory card (just over a tenner if you shop around on the net: got mine from 7dayshop.com) it works a treat! I have fallen totally in love with it. I previously had an M2000.
If I were you, I would suggest to Orange that, since they had agreed to give it to you on an upgrade, they do the same thing with you as they did with me (as long as you can spare cash in you account until they refund you whatever discount you asked for).
You will have to go to the store and collect it. I do know of a store in Kent that had some on Thursday. PM me if you want to know where, or if there is any more help I can be.
Hope you are able to track one down.

vijay555 said:
SimonPearse: I really want an 8 inch device that won't fit in my pocket, but it's not happening...
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why not?
want it to be a clamshell or not? i will be able to give you recommendations in either case

bye bye tytn

im on my 3rd one and it blacks out and the screen doesnt reposition properly this time. 1st two had the SA problem.
such a good phone, but i cant take its bugginess anymore!
gonna get an E70 or E50!

i agree 100%
i am on my second one and just cant stand the bugs
i am thinking of getting the artemis....the one with the GPS
i love the little ball thing it's just amazing.....
just dont know..
i am definately gona miss the keyboard on the tytn
nut anyway no point in looking back anymore

You'll be sorry
I had a Nokia E61 before the tytn. In fact I had three (replaced under warranty). Whilst Tytn has it's problems, the architecure is open and great forums like this one assist you in overcoming the problems. By contrast the Nokia software has it's bugs too (lot's). The problem is that the architecture is closed and you are totally at the mercy of Nokia who provide terrible service. In the 4 months I owned the E61 I only had it in my poossession for 1.5 months. The rest of the time it was at Nokia.
In the end I took it up with the carrier and had them give me a tytn as a replacement. To rub salt into the wound after the carrier had supplied the TYTN, Nokia called to say do you have a problem? gee we are sorry, perhaps we should have upgraded the level of your problem yada yada yada
Two of the happiest days I had last year was the day I received my new Nokia and the day I got rid of it.

if anyone wants to donate their tytn or sell it really really cheap let me know

I am open to offers...i've got the t-mobile variant...pm me

for what it's worth, I had to get 3 replacements for my orange uk m3100 in the 1st month but since I got this last one a couple of months ago, it works like a dream, i love it to bits. If at first you don't succeed . . . !

Hi there,
I have an HTC644 now (Vario II) which i got after replacing an HTC645 (touchscreen stopped responding after a while) and to be honest with you...
thats the best device I ever had, it works just fine for me. That includes every single option in the phone ( yay i'm not using outlook )
Of course it is not perfect (it could include some more "phone'ish" features), yet that's what this forum is about!
Too many people come around wining about their problems, and some people take their issues as a device review ...
If everyone in the world had a device like that - there would be no wars ! HOOAH!

I'm not gonna waste my time and wait for two weeks til i can get a 4th one. imagine having to deal with this mess everytime you use it...
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its meant to be my inbox, but the screens sorta split in half, and the lowhalf isnt getting rid of messages/warnings/menus that have previously been up
theres no denying the tytn is a smashing phone, coz it is. Just that i cant take it anymore. each handset takes at least 10days to get repaired or replaced. I've been without it for a month in total. i'm not paying good money for a phone i hardly see and keeps letting me down when i do see it.
I've not had a series 60 before. but the nokias ive have had before have been reliable. I'm prepared to give it ago, cant be worse than the problems im having, where the screens no use, therefore making the phone irritating to use. at least with the nokia the screen isnt touch sensitive, so less likely to go crazy on me.
three strikes and youre out.

Kaiser Anyone?

Wondering how many are going to pay out for the Kaiser and why.
I gots to have my device fix every year, ...I like the thinner Kaiser......but thats really about it..... Getting GPS above and beyond that is NOT going to open my wallet to the tune of $600.
If the Cingular network miraculously has the souped up hsdpa network good to go next year......maybe. If not I'm looking at the Toshiba device....or maybe the Samsung f700 if I can get my hands on it here.
Thanks!
T

rockky said:
Wondering how many are going to pay out for the Kaiser and why.
I gots to have my device fix every year, ...I like the thinner Kaiser......but thats really about it..... Getting GPS above and beyond that is NOT going to open my wallet to the tune of $600.
If the Cingular network miraculously has the souped up hsdpa network good to go next year......maybe. If not I'm looking at the Toshiba device....or maybe the Samsung f700 if I can get my hands on it here.
Thanks!
T
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I'm prob going to buy one. I already have someone willing to buy my hermes for the price of the Kaiser as long as I take care of it for them. Bosses wife. I want the GPS, the double in the storage, the thinner size, HSUPA, it is going to have 3.6 HSDPA and I really want the tip up screen. There is also the fact the the keyboard slids out the right side. I like that so that the dial is usable when the kb is pulled out.
Well that is my take on it. I wish the memory was going to 128 but that is prob not going to happen. I will be buying one.
Erik

yeah, but really, the hsdpa boost is good to go in other lands I hear....questionable in the US...wasn't aware of the storage boost.......(that we already have here on XDA!).
I want to stay with the Hermes lineage, which 'been good to me'....but startin to look around.
I think the XDA chefs've devalued the next models for sure!

etijburg said:
I like that so that the dial is usable when the kb is pulled out.
Erik
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Agree with everything you said, one question though: does the dial location change in the Kaiser? Because if you slide the keyboard to the left, as in the Hermes, the dial is well accessible. I figure if the dial location stays the same it ain't accessible if you slide the keyboard to the right ... am I missing something?

well, in the hermes it's accessible with your left thumb. as far as i understand, in the keiser it will be accessible with the right hand pointing finger...so it's more usable

I'll get one, but only if it supports the 3G frequencies T-mobile US is going to be on.

simonk12 said:
well, in the hermes it's accessible with your left thumb. as far as i understand, in the keiser it will be accessible with the right hand pointing finger...so it's more usable
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OK that makes sense, especially when sliding the screen upwards to provide enough space around the jog wheel for the left pointing finger ...
http://pdadb.net/imageview.php?file=htc_p4550_2.jpg

etijburg said:
I'm prob going to buy one. I already have someone willing to buy my hermes for the price of the Kaiser as long as I take care of it for them. Bosses wife.
Erik
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Erik,
No no no you are on very dodgy ground here You have to take care of the bosses wife in return for money - just what kind of job is this and what is your job title??
Sounds like a Dangerous Liaison to me
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"I have a little something for you my dear. Oh yes it's beautifully formed, very slick and fits in so nicely. Would you like a little peek?"
"Why Erik you little devil it's perfect for my little box! Have you given it a name?"
"Why yes my dear it's my latest iphone look alike theme!"
"Erik you say the sweetest things, you certainly deserve one of those Kaiser's for being so nice to me"
Mike

i will be buying a Kaiseer... as Austar in AUS are rolling out their HSUPA network in 2008 Q2...

Updated pics
Some updated Kaiser pics here ...
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-smartphones-on-show-high-end-kaiser-mid-range-elf-085128.php

[DEV] iPAQ hw6900 Series WM6.5.x ROM project (screenshots)

From time to time I do get messages from people asking if I can make a WM6.5 ROM for hw6900 series iPAQs.
The thing is that I don't have any hw6900 series iPAQs to do tests with.
So I looking for someone who can sell cheap or donate a hw69x5 iPAQ for WM6.5 / WM6.5.3 ROM development.
If you have one and are willing to donate it - contact me.
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Recently I bought an iPAQ hw6945 with broken LCD to see if it can run WM6.5.x. And yes - it can.
WM6.5.3 runs really well on it. At least it seems so - as it's quite hard to operate device with broken LCD (I see nothing on it) by using MyMobiler.
Now I need to get an LCD to test it more.

Custom Rom WM6.5 HP6915
the pics are looking good,
spiaatie, when do you expect a working rom?
if you can't find a new LCD, maybe i can test the rom?

I know where to get the LCD, but I just don't money for it now.
Most of functions works well, I just need to tune up some things.
If I will need any BETA testers, I would better choose from Senior Members not from
Junior Members.

LOOKING GOOD!!!!
waiting patiently for the release of the rom!!!

Hi, i can try this rom...

Hi, me too want to try this new rom !!!!!
=;-)

Let me know if you haven't gotten a spare LCD by next Friday. I might have something for you. Also, I still have mine that I can test with if you need.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Let me know if you haven't gotten a spare LCD by next Friday. I might have something for you. Also, I still have mine that I can test with if you need.
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I still haven't got the LCD.
Beta version will be available, as I said I need to fix few things. But first I need to finish my school projects.

Spiaatie said:
I still haven't got the LCD.
Beta version will be available, as I said I need to fix few things. But first I need to finish my school projects.
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Ok. I may be able to either get you a replacement LCD, or a used hw6945. I'm not sure which one, though. I have to talk to a buddy of mine, but he won't be available until after Easter. I'll know more on Monday.

Wow!! Looks nice! Can I have a beta of that wm6.5? We're waiting. Thank you for Your work.
Best regards!

Oh, man, I completely forgot about this! Hey, Spiaatie, did you ever get that LCD? If not, I can send you a replacement one, if you know how to change it out. As long as shipping to you is under $20, I'll cover it.

man, this is awesome news!
man, this is awesome news!
i am experienced on flashing roms for 6915 family. if you need to try something out, let me know!

Sweet, just picked up a HW6965 on eBay as a temporary phone until I get my Desire back, so I'll be more than willing to test this.

Great news
looks really good. I am waiting for it to try.
Thanks in advance. I upgraded my hw6965 ram to 128mb by myself
from 2x HYB18L256160BF-7.5 to 2x HYB18L512160BF-7.5
So if your rom will take more ram, it can still run on my hw6965.
currently, my hw6965 is running wm6.1 plus simplified HTC-home
Now waiting for and want to try your rom.

look fw to this!!!
can we count on you?

I'm looking forward to trying this too.

Hi! I want try it on my HW 6915/ I try 4PDA 6.1 and 6.5WM. But many programs don`t work and don`t work Bluetooth. Sorry fo my bad English

Me too ))
But would WM6.5 be not too "heavy" for hw6915?

I've already sent Spiaatie a replacement LCD screeen for his 6945, so I'm sure he'll get a test ROM out soon enough. Just be patient.