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We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with. We figured they would have asked others if they were only interested in a superficial look, so we voided the warranty almost immediately. Here's our preliminary findings:
http://xda-developers.com/xda2
We take requests as for what to try next...
We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with.
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ooooo now that I do like the sounds of 8)
And here was me thinking O2 had no sense whatsoever... maybe I like this company after all :lol:
wtg O2 !!!
128mb eh? I think I know what I want from Santa LOL
wtg also to the developers... you have an official unofficial handset from O2 and officially they must have unofficially been reading your works :wink:
How unofficially official
:roll:
EDIT: I just had a thought... sorry to be the first to ***** :roll: but the SD slot at the top must make it more obvious? People might have the urge to fire it out the top (XDA has some firing range if done properly) or even worse....increase the chance of it getting pinched
nice pics...
Thank you... :wink:
Could you give some details on the connector?
Can I use my XDA cables and carkit?
As always: impressive stuff
About connections and accessories:
1- does it fit in the leathercase of the XDA I
2- does it fit in the craddle of the XDA I
3- does it fit with the charger of the XDA I
4- does it fit with the car charger of XDA I
5- is it the same stylus ? does the stylus of XDA I fit in the socket of XDA II ?
In other words, if we have extra accessories of the present XDA, can I use them with the new XDA II ?
Hi!
Concerning this part of the first review:
The other 16 MB of the disk-on-chip [...]
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Does that mean, that this part of the ROM is fully user-accessible (reading&writing)?
In that case it would be very easy to change an XDA II to an MDA II (software-wise) by simply copying the files in that arey from on to another?
Is that true?
Greetings,
Olli
X-Ray said:
Could you give some details on the connector?
Can I use my XDA cables and carkit?
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You can use any cable you have, but not the old cradle: the shape of the device is slightly different. I guess whether or not you can use your carkit depends on the form-factor.
The cradle that comes with it can charge a second battery (they are removeable now), and has a 2A power supply.
Nossie said:
I just had a thought... sorry to be the first to ***** :roll: but the SD slot at the top must make it more obvious? People might have the urge to fire it out the top (XDA has some firing range if done properly) or even worse....increase the chance of it getting pinched
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Yeah, these SD-card eject springs can be weapons-grade. But still the top is the only right place to have your wavelan or gps SDIO card stick out.
ojung said:
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this 16MByte disk gets mounted as '\Extended_ROM'.
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Does that mean, that this part of the ROM is fully user-accessible (reading&writing)?
In that case it would be very easy to change an XDA II to an MDA II (software-wise) by simply copying the files in that arey from on to another?
Is that true?
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Correct.
Something tells me that any XDA II follow-up to the kitchen will no longer mess with the tiny bit of space in the 32MB main ROM, but will focus on this extended ROM disk instead. The life of a tweaker will be nicer and easier on the XDA II.
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with. We figured they would have asked others if they were only interested in a superficial look, so we voided the warranty almost immediately. Here's our preliminary findings:
http://xda-developers.com/xda2
We take requests as for what to try next...
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Wonderful!! When will you be able to unlock it?
Thanx a lot for your work.
Tekflow said:
1- does it fit in the leathercase of the XDA I
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Yes. You can just barely still use the volume slider in the down direction. the camera button is not useable, but then the camera is covered by the back of the case anyway.
2- does it fit in the craddle of the XDA I
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No.
3- does it fit with the charger of the XDA I
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Yes. The charger that comes with it is 2A, but can also charge a second battery in the cradle.
4- does it fit with the car charger of XDA I
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Haven't tried, but see no reason why not.
5- is it the same stylus ? does the stylus of XDA I fit in the socket of XDA II ?
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No, XDA II stylus is much thinner and slightly longer
FDPM said:
Wonderful!! When will you be able to unlock it?
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The unit we got appears to be unlocked. It may well be that they finally discovered that SIMlocking is immoral.
If they do start selling SIMlocked units, we'll see what happens. We've thought of a few ways one could make it harder to unlock, and at least in theory they could make it hard enough to deter people like us.
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Correct.
Something tells me that any XDA II follow-up to the kitchen will no longer mess with the tiny bit of space in the 32MB main ROM, but will focus on this extended ROM disk instead. The life of a tweaker will be nicer and easier on the XDA II.
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Thanks!
So we just have to wait for many little tweaks by the o2-developers. Then we -the users- simply have to install those to the ROM disk and voila! Thanks to HTC for that great opportunity!
So: Hurry up and build some tweaks
Not such a intresting question but is the LCD the same size as the XDA as i have loads of screen protectors to fit the XDA, I know its brighter and better , but is it the same size
Thanks
one question think most of us would like to ask
can the XDA 2 use Jeff's Kitchen or Kalex's Kitchen?? would be great if its possible...love the IIWPO on it
applecom said:
Not such a intresting question but is the LCD the same size as the XDA as i have loads of screen protectors to fit the XDA.
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It is 1 millimeter wider and half a millimeter higher. (And this while the entire device is narrower because the screen edges are smaller. Vierwable area is the same.
david beckham said:
one question think most of us would like to ask
can the XDA 2 use Jeff's Kitchen or Kalex's Kitchen?? would be great if its possible...love the IIWPO on it
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Nothing stops you from putting this ROM in the kitchen. Structure is the same, and conventional mkrom-family tools work. Hoever, the whole rationale behind the kitchen becomes thinner when you have 32 MB flash-disk and 128 MB RAM to play with.
Of course never seen before :shock: :shock: :shock:
You are big guy
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Yeah, these SD-card eject springs can be weapons-grade. But still the top is the only right place to have your wavelan or gps SDIO card stick out.
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ahh yeah that does make sense, less interferience(sp?) I'd imagine..
oh well... beware of of low flying SD cards arf arf :twisted:
A question
I have a homemade carkit, with a connector with some functions like audio, microfoon,gps input/output and power.
is the connector pin layout still the same?
thank!
It's a Taiwanese site,but am pretty sure u won't need to read..... :wink:
.................TONS OF UNIVERSAL PICTURES.............(to the smallest detail..)
RAGO :lol:
Nice, but whats up with these two holes?
those are speedholes, they make the car i mean phone go faster
Ha ha ha, year i remember.........the more holes you drill in your fender the faster it goes
We actually had a dude at school that did it.........wonder what kind of science he is working with nowadays *LOL*
bosjo said:
Nice, but whats up with these two holes?
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I think they are connectors for external antennas, one for WCDMA and one for GSM/GPRS.
http://www.clubimate.com/t-JASJAR_technical.aspx
Yep, your right.
Look also at this pdf @ page 7
Also i can se the posibility for the "all connect in one move" Car Craddle.
But I cannot describe how dissapointed I am that there is no Cradle bundled with this device
well personaly i've stop'd using my cradles for my xda2 since i got my silicone case i'll ruin it in no time if i choose to take it out of it every time i want to sync / charge
of cause with the universal being the way it is dont see such a silicone case being a problem like that....
bosjo said:
Yep, your right.
Look also at this pdf @ page 7
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Do you know where i can find the manual...? but in english...
thnx, M.
Motard69 said:
Do you know where i can find the manual...? but in english...
thnx, M.
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Sorry, can't help you there
Hi Guys, I bought the Universal for quite some time now, and would like to do more advanced stuff with it. but I am kind of new to Rom flashing; I tried to find the threads to read, but there are just too much information on this web Forum(which is great thanks guys), and I can't seem to find the right Keyword to search, which Thread would you guys recommend me to read? or any main keyword I should search for ?
Thanks and have a very nice day guys.
J
Search the ROM threads...
Jwright's
Midget's
Helmi_c's
Pdaviet.
It's all very personal, fraid you're just gonna have to read up and find which is the best for you.
Hi,
I currently have an Blue Angel, but this will apply to you as well:
If your Universal is working fine, DON'T START FLASHING IMAGES!
The truth is that you MAY end up with a brick.
If you want to do "more advanced" things, why not look at all the Freeware applications you can use? Today, i.e., I got my fingers onto a Universal and tested it with my SD-Card which contains Dosbox and Windows 3.0.
You know what? It ROCKS!!! VGA is absolutly cool and speed is fine.
Think of all the DOS-Games you could run.
This is just one suggestion, but really: don't change a running system.
You read about it and it will seem simple. But if something goes wrong, you will regret it for sure.
Cheers,
vma
SOG said:
Hi Guys, I bought the Universal for quite some time now, and would like to do more advanced stuff with it. but I am kind of new to Rom flashing; I tried to find the threads to read, but there are just too much information on this web Forum(which is great thanks guys), and I can't seem to find the right Keyword to search, which Thread would you guys recommend me to read? or any main keyword I should search for ?
Thanks and have a very nice day guys.
J
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Start with the wiki - the best way to prevent yourself from bricking your Uni. You should then read the forums - the perfect way to prevent yourself suffering what others have already suffered.....
vma said:
Hi,
I currently have an Blue Angel, but this will apply to you as well:
If your Universal is working fine, DON'T START FLASHING IMAGES!
The truth is that you MAY end up with a brick.
If you want to do "more advanced" things, why not look at all the Freeware applications you can use? Today, i.e., I got my fingers onto a Universal and tested it with my SD-Card which contains Dosbox and Windows 3.0.
You know what? It ROCKS!!! VGA is absolutly cool and speed is fine.
Think of all the DOS-Games you could run.
This is just one suggestion, but really: don't change a running system.
You read about it and it will seem simple. But if something goes wrong, you will regret it for sure.
Cheers,
vma
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thanks for the advice vma, but the thing is, my Univeral is a bit too slow when it run what it comes with originally, so I think I will find a way to back up the ROM and give it a try...
Man I reply so late, because I was choked when drinking water, so the water was splited on to the keyboard, then like space bar and some other keys doesn't work, and to make the matter worst.... I try to dry it with a hair dryer, but I was watching TV.... and in 1 min it melted my keys ... so certain keys are now "forever stuck" so I am currently using a mini keyboard I had... will get anoter standard keyboard soon, this mini keyboard is making me very tried
I hope you are referring to a regular PC keyboard and not to the keyboard of your Universal!!!
Have you tried the Registry-hack's and the section on how to optimize your Universal for speed?
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
I hope you are referring to a regular PC keyboard and not to the keyboard of your Universal!!!
Have you tried the Registry-hack's and the section on how to optimize your Universal for speed?
Cheers,
vma
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No! not the unversal ! it's my PC's Keyboard, now I am using one of those sillcone Keyboard, it feels very strange though, I like regular PC Keyboard more
get one of these :¬D
best keyboards IN THE WORLD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Model_M_Keyboard
r3bel said:
get one of these :¬D
best keyboards IN THE WORLD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Model_M_Keyboard
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They are fantastic - there's one manufactured in 1994 on ebay UK at the moment but it's £51 with over three days to go!!!
apd said:
They are fantastic - there's one manufactured in 1994 on ebay UK at the moment but it's £51 with over three days to go!!!
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MAN! I have like 2-3 of those back from 1980, are you sure it's £51?
ROFL What a crazy world we live in
SOG said:
MAN! I have like 2-3 of those back from 1980, are you sure it's £51?
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Yup! See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBM-PC-AT-PS2-Clicky-Keyboard-Model-M_W0QQitemZ280092443368QQcategoryZ33964QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Yup! See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBM-PC-AT-PS2-Clicky-Keyboard-Model-M_W0QQitemZ280092443368QQcategoryZ33964QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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HHM..... even have bidders too !!! but the one on e-bay is like... PS2 the connector I had is like a bigger forgot the name of it though.... but if I want to sell it, one of the first thing I need to do is ................... CLEAN UP !
I am trying to find a software to backup my ROM at the moment
and there, the melted one.... and the sillcone one....
so don't use a hair dryer on ur keyboard and the sillcone keyboard ain't good, it's very silent though, I can hardly hear any typing sound
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HHM..... even have bidders too !!! but the one on e-bay is like... PS2 the connector I had is like a bigger forgot the name of it though.... but if I want to sell it, one of the first thing I need to do is ................... CLEAN UP !
I am trying to find a software to backup my ROM at the moment
and there, the melted one.... and the sillcone one....
so don't use a hair dryer on ur keyboard and the sillcone keyboard ain't good, it's very silent though, I can hardly hear any typing sound
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Yikes! Although knowing flea-bay, it'd still sell!!
Here it is service manual to open/change tytn housing and display....
Good call!
Wow, great finding...This would come in handy! Thanks
Good stuff
Excellent!! great Find!!
Thank you.
One question:
People looking this thread should know.
8525 and other Herm100 and/orHerms200 have same mainboard.
8525 has only empty socket for webcam or has different mainboard without any webcam socket?
I plan to have a cingular 8525 and do all roms suitable for 8525 or will I need to find specific 8525 roms.
By the way the housing is pretty easy to change on the Hermes, it only took me about 30 minutes to dismantle and re-assemble mine.
Just be careful not to damage the ribbons inside.
Thanks for uploading this. I really need it.
Houseless
Hi, does anyone know where i can get a new housing for the 8525? Mine cracked during a fight with the X. I shouldnt have ducked.
Cobra75007 said:
Hi, does anyone know where i can get a new housing for the 8525? Mine cracked during a fight with the X. I shouldnt have ducked.
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Try http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/cingular-8525-8525-c-210_276.html
u2pop said:
Wow, great finding...This would come in handy! Thanks
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Sometimes I wonder if folk read the Hermes Wiki! The service manual, dismantling guides and even a dismantling video have been linked there for a looooong time. See near the bottom of the page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Mike
By the way - moving this to Hermes General forum as changing the housing is not an "upgrading" matter.
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Try http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/cingular-8525-8525-c-210_276.html
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Wow that's pricey. There's not even any electronics included, it's all plastic!!!! I'll deal with a few scratches on my case, thank you very much.
im looking for a good 2-in-1 adapter (you know, for charging and using headphones?). ive only found some on ebay, anyone know of some other sites? for a decent price? thanks.
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im looking for a good 2-in-1 adapter (you know, for charging and using headphones?). ive only found some on ebay, anyone know of some other sites? for a decent price? thanks.
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i have bought 3 of these adapter and so far no problems. perticullary i like the one which has 3.5mm aswell. see the image attached.
adeelchaudry said:
i have bought 3 of these adapter and so far no problems. perticullary i like the one which has 3.5mm aswell. see the image attached.
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thanks, but i prefer a smaller end, not as wide as that one.
btw why would you need 3 adapters?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336516
i use that from time to time its kinda small, i cant seem to find it anymore
ekw said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336516
i use that from time to time its kinda small, i cant seem to find it anymore
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that one is cool but i wouldnt be able to use my headset for talking on, i can only listen to music and charge. i wanted one like this but having 2 usb mini ports.
mikeeey said:
that one is cool but i wouldnt be able to use my headset for talking on, i can only listen to music and charge. i wanted one like this but having 2 usb mini ports.
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did you have any luck finding something like this?
i am also interested.
lowreeds said:
did you have any luck finding something like this?
i am also interested.
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Check this one out. Only $5.99 might be what you are looking for. I know I am going to order one. Heck I think the shipping might be more than anything.
http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-...9229212-8000463?ie=UTF8&qid=1200957157&sr=1-1