XDA-developers get XDA II ! - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with. We figured they would have asked others if they were only interested in a superficial look, so we voided the warranty almost immediately. Here's our preliminary findings:
http://xda-developers.com/xda2
We take requests as for what to try next...

We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with.
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ooooo now that I do like the sounds of 8)
And here was me thinking O2 had no sense whatsoever... maybe I like this company after all :lol:
wtg O2 !!!
128mb eh? I think I know what I want from Santa LOL
wtg also to the developers... you have an official unofficial handset from O2 and officially they must have unofficially been reading your works :wink:
How unofficially official
:roll:
EDIT: I just had a thought... sorry to be the first to ***** :roll: but the SD slot at the top must make it more obvious? People might have the urge to fire it out the top (XDA has some firing range if done properly) or even worse....increase the chance of it getting pinched

nice pics...
Thank you... :wink:

Could you give some details on the connector?
Can I use my XDA cables and carkit?
As always: impressive stuff

About connections and accessories:
1- does it fit in the leathercase of the XDA I
2- does it fit in the craddle of the XDA I
3- does it fit with the charger of the XDA I
4- does it fit with the car charger of XDA I
5- is it the same stylus ? does the stylus of XDA I fit in the socket of XDA II ?
In other words, if we have extra accessories of the present XDA, can I use them with the new XDA II ?

Hi!
Concerning this part of the first review:
The other 16 MB of the disk-on-chip [...]
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Does that mean, that this part of the ROM is fully user-accessible (reading&writing)?
In that case it would be very easy to change an XDA II to an MDA II (software-wise) by simply copying the files in that arey from on to another?
Is that true?
Greetings,
Olli

X-Ray said:
Could you give some details on the connector?
Can I use my XDA cables and carkit?
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You can use any cable you have, but not the old cradle: the shape of the device is slightly different. I guess whether or not you can use your carkit depends on the form-factor.
The cradle that comes with it can charge a second battery (they are removeable now), and has a 2A power supply.

Nossie said:
I just had a thought... sorry to be the first to ***** :roll: but the SD slot at the top must make it more obvious? People might have the urge to fire it out the top (XDA has some firing range if done properly) or even worse....increase the chance of it getting pinched
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Yeah, these SD-card eject springs can be weapons-grade. But still the top is the only right place to have your wavelan or gps SDIO card stick out.

ojung said:
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this 16MByte disk gets mounted as '\Extended_ROM'.
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Does that mean, that this part of the ROM is fully user-accessible (reading&writing)?
In that case it would be very easy to change an XDA II to an MDA II (software-wise) by simply copying the files in that arey from on to another?
Is that true?
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Correct.
Something tells me that any XDA II follow-up to the kitchen will no longer mess with the tiny bit of space in the 32MB main ROM, but will focus on this extended ROM disk instead. The life of a tweaker will be nicer and easier on the XDA II.

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
We got one! O2 sent us one of their demo models to test with. We figured they would have asked others if they were only interested in a superficial look, so we voided the warranty almost immediately. Here's our preliminary findings:
http://xda-developers.com/xda2
We take requests as for what to try next...
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Wonderful!! When will you be able to unlock it?
Thanx a lot for your work.

Tekflow said:
1- does it fit in the leathercase of the XDA I
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Yes. You can just barely still use the volume slider in the down direction. the camera button is not useable, but then the camera is covered by the back of the case anyway.
2- does it fit in the craddle of the XDA I
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No.
3- does it fit with the charger of the XDA I
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Yes. The charger that comes with it is 2A, but can also charge a second battery in the cradle.
4- does it fit with the car charger of XDA I
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Haven't tried, but see no reason why not.
5- is it the same stylus ? does the stylus of XDA I fit in the socket of XDA II ?
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No, XDA II stylus is much thinner and slightly longer

FDPM said:
Wonderful!! When will you be able to unlock it?
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The unit we got appears to be unlocked. It may well be that they finally discovered that SIMlocking is immoral.
If they do start selling SIMlocked units, we'll see what happens. We've thought of a few ways one could make it harder to unlock, and at least in theory they could make it hard enough to deter people like us.

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Correct.
Something tells me that any XDA II follow-up to the kitchen will no longer mess with the tiny bit of space in the 32MB main ROM, but will focus on this extended ROM disk instead. The life of a tweaker will be nicer and easier on the XDA II.
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Thanks!
So we just have to wait for many little tweaks by the o2-developers. Then we -the users- simply have to install those to the ROM disk and voila! Thanks to HTC for that great opportunity!
So: Hurry up and build some tweaks

Not such a intresting question but is the LCD the same size as the XDA as i have loads of screen protectors to fit the XDA, I know its brighter and better , but is it the same size
Thanks

one question think most of us would like to ask
can the XDA 2 use Jeff's Kitchen or Kalex's Kitchen?? would be great if its possible...love the IIWPO on it

applecom said:
Not such a intresting question but is the LCD the same size as the XDA as i have loads of screen protectors to fit the XDA.
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It is 1 millimeter wider and half a millimeter higher. (And this while the entire device is narrower because the screen edges are smaller. Vierwable area is the same.

david beckham said:
one question think most of us would like to ask
can the XDA 2 use Jeff's Kitchen or Kalex's Kitchen?? would be great if its possible...love the IIWPO on it
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Nothing stops you from putting this ROM in the kitchen. Structure is the same, and conventional mkrom-family tools work. Hoever, the whole rationale behind the kitchen becomes thinner when you have 32 MB flash-disk and 128 MB RAM to play with.

Of course never seen before :shock: :shock: :shock:
You are big guy

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Yeah, these SD-card eject springs can be weapons-grade. But still the top is the only right place to have your wavelan or gps SDIO card stick out.
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ahh yeah that does make sense, less interferience(sp?) I'd imagine..
oh well... beware of of low flying SD cards arf arf :twisted:

A question
I have a homemade carkit, with a connector with some functions like audio, microfoon,gps input/output and power.
is the connector pin layout still the same?
thank!

Related

Have a look... ;)

It's a Taiwanese site,but am pretty sure u won't need to read..... :wink:
.................TONS OF UNIVERSAL PICTURES.............(to the smallest detail..)
RAGO :lol:
Nice, but whats up with these two holes?
those are speedholes, they make the car i mean phone go faster
Ha ha ha, year i remember.........the more holes you drill in your fender the faster it goes
We actually had a dude at school that did it.........wonder what kind of science he is working with nowadays *LOL*
bosjo said:
Nice, but whats up with these two holes?
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I think they are connectors for external antennas, one for WCDMA and one for GSM/GPRS.
http://www.clubimate.com/t-JASJAR_technical.aspx
Yep, your right.
Look also at this pdf @ page 7
Also i can se the posibility for the "all connect in one move" Car Craddle.
But I cannot describe how dissapointed I am that there is no Cradle bundled with this device
well personaly i've stop'd using my cradles for my xda2 since i got my silicone case i'll ruin it in no time if i choose to take it out of it every time i want to sync / charge
of cause with the universal being the way it is dont see such a silicone case being a problem like that....
bosjo said:
Yep, your right.
Look also at this pdf @ page 7
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Do you know where i can find the manual...? but in english...
thnx, M.
Motard69 said:
Do you know where i can find the manual...? but in english...
thnx, M.
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Sorry, can't help you there

Check The Imate Site Out !!!

They 're all there listed in all their glory.
Cool....but I can't beleive that they only put a 200 mhz processor in the K-Jam :shock: .....What a waste....... :?
Later........ 8)
wardy said:
They 're all there listed in all their glory.
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Would be good if people learned that its not possible to measure performance just based on megahertz.
Dual processing , greater battery performance . Benchmarked already to perform better than the Magician . WM2005 helps out a lot here too , it's a design thing and the developers have listened . Battery technology is not moving as fast as chipset technology so enhance the processor and the operating system to compensate. Makes sence to me .
If your not convinced, then wait , I'm sure there will be loads of reviews coming up soon.
Shallax , I'm sure you've seen this but this what the wizard will be put on Ebay for.
HTC Hermes [Pocket PC phone]
- should be 1st half of 2006
- like HTC Wizard with slide QWERTY Keyboard
- Size also about the same
- video call camera on the top right corner of the screen.
- it s 3G (UMTS)
- Wi-Fi, IR & Bluetooth
- 2.1 Mpixels Camera (Behind)
P.S can't believe you haven't had a phone for amonth :shock: Must be like giving up smoking :wink:
Yep, definitely sounds good... but I need a phone NOW! Maybe I'll upgrade later down the road ;p
And yes, being without a phone is pretty bad - having never smoked I can't really compare ;p
Hi everyone, since i not yet have any i-mate phone yet, i cannot be a member of the i-mate site, can anyone help me to login with i-mate 's support site and download the manual of the K-jam ? Thanks
Check this out from the i-mate site
Bluetooth
-Compliant with v1.1
-Class 2 transmit power
-Supported Profiles
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I think that that means the Bluetooth 2.0 rumors were correct!! Yes!
Possibly - we'll see. Im not holding out too much hope for this.
*Edit* Woah, hangon: http://www.qtek.fi/qtek9100.htm - seems Qtek has revised this page "Bluetooth 2.0"!
I-Mate site
unfortunately the club I-Mate site won't let you download the manuals/view the faq unless you have a k-jam registered. So even the folks who have access to the site, but do not have a k-jam registered can't get to the information.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
Possibly.....but it remains to be seen......from what you say, you should know that....
Later...... 8)
ShALLaX said:
Would be good if people learned that its not possible to measure performance just based on megahertz.
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hdbueller said:
Possibly.....but it remains to be seen......from what you say, you should know that....
Later...... 8)
ShALLaX said:
Would be good if people learned that its not possible to measure performance just based on megahertz.
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Guys , I posted what you want here :wink: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28217

About ROM flashing, and increase speed of the Universal

Hi Guys, I bought the Universal for quite some time now, and would like to do more advanced stuff with it. but I am kind of new to Rom flashing; I tried to find the threads to read, but there are just too much information on this web Forum(which is great thanks guys), and I can't seem to find the right Keyword to search, which Thread would you guys recommend me to read? or any main keyword I should search for ?
Thanks and have a very nice day guys.
J
Search the ROM threads...
Jwright's
Midget's
Helmi_c's
Pdaviet.
It's all very personal, fraid you're just gonna have to read up and find which is the best for you.
Hi,
I currently have an Blue Angel, but this will apply to you as well:
If your Universal is working fine, DON'T START FLASHING IMAGES!
The truth is that you MAY end up with a brick.
If you want to do "more advanced" things, why not look at all the Freeware applications you can use? Today, i.e., I got my fingers onto a Universal and tested it with my SD-Card which contains Dosbox and Windows 3.0.
You know what? It ROCKS!!! VGA is absolutly cool and speed is fine.
Think of all the DOS-Games you could run.
This is just one suggestion, but really: don't change a running system.
You read about it and it will seem simple. But if something goes wrong, you will regret it for sure.
Cheers,
vma
SOG said:
Hi Guys, I bought the Universal for quite some time now, and would like to do more advanced stuff with it. but I am kind of new to Rom flashing; I tried to find the threads to read, but there are just too much information on this web Forum(which is great thanks guys), and I can't seem to find the right Keyword to search, which Thread would you guys recommend me to read? or any main keyword I should search for ?
Thanks and have a very nice day guys.
J
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Start with the wiki - the best way to prevent yourself from bricking your Uni. You should then read the forums - the perfect way to prevent yourself suffering what others have already suffered.....
vma said:
Hi,
I currently have an Blue Angel, but this will apply to you as well:
If your Universal is working fine, DON'T START FLASHING IMAGES!
The truth is that you MAY end up with a brick.
If you want to do "more advanced" things, why not look at all the Freeware applications you can use? Today, i.e., I got my fingers onto a Universal and tested it with my SD-Card which contains Dosbox and Windows 3.0.
You know what? It ROCKS!!! VGA is absolutly cool and speed is fine.
Think of all the DOS-Games you could run.
This is just one suggestion, but really: don't change a running system.
You read about it and it will seem simple. But if something goes wrong, you will regret it for sure.
Cheers,
vma
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thanks for the advice vma, but the thing is, my Univeral is a bit too slow when it run what it comes with originally, so I think I will find a way to back up the ROM and give it a try...
Man I reply so late, because I was choked when drinking water, so the water was splited on to the keyboard, then like space bar and some other keys doesn't work, and to make the matter worst.... I try to dry it with a hair dryer, but I was watching TV.... and in 1 min it melted my keys ... so certain keys are now "forever stuck" so I am currently using a mini keyboard I had... will get anoter standard keyboard soon, this mini keyboard is making me very tried
I hope you are referring to a regular PC keyboard and not to the keyboard of your Universal!!!
Have you tried the Registry-hack's and the section on how to optimize your Universal for speed?
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
I hope you are referring to a regular PC keyboard and not to the keyboard of your Universal!!!
Have you tried the Registry-hack's and the section on how to optimize your Universal for speed?
Cheers,
vma
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No! not the unversal ! it's my PC's Keyboard, now I am using one of those sillcone Keyboard, it feels very strange though, I like regular PC Keyboard more
get one of these :¬D
best keyboards IN THE WORLD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Model_M_Keyboard
r3bel said:
get one of these :¬D
best keyboards IN THE WORLD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Model_M_Keyboard
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They are fantastic - there's one manufactured in 1994 on ebay UK at the moment but it's £51 with over three days to go!!!
apd said:
They are fantastic - there's one manufactured in 1994 on ebay UK at the moment but it's £51 with over three days to go!!!
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MAN! I have like 2-3 of those back from 1980, are you sure it's £51?
ROFL What a crazy world we live in
SOG said:
MAN! I have like 2-3 of those back from 1980, are you sure it's £51?
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Yup! See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBM-PC-AT-PS2-Clicky-Keyboard-Model-M_W0QQitemZ280092443368QQcategoryZ33964QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Yup! See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBM-PC-AT-PS2-Clicky-Keyboard-Model-M_W0QQitemZ280092443368QQcategoryZ33964QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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HHM..... even have bidders too !!! but the one on e-bay is like... PS2 the connector I had is like a bigger forgot the name of it though.... but if I want to sell it, one of the first thing I need to do is ................... CLEAN UP !
I am trying to find a software to backup my ROM at the moment
and there, the melted one.... and the sillcone one....
so don't use a hair dryer on ur keyboard and the sillcone keyboard ain't good, it's very silent though, I can hardly hear any typing sound
SOG said:
HHM..... even have bidders too !!! but the one on e-bay is like... PS2 the connector I had is like a bigger forgot the name of it though.... but if I want to sell it, one of the first thing I need to do is ................... CLEAN UP !
I am trying to find a software to backup my ROM at the moment
and there, the melted one.... and the sillcone one....
so don't use a hair dryer on ur keyboard and the sillcone keyboard ain't good, it's very silent though, I can hardly hear any typing sound
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Yikes! Although knowing flea-bay, it'd still sell!!

[ACCESSORIES] Searching For...

We are currently looking for the best accessories for our T-Mo USA HD2s, also known as the 1024 Leo.
Due to the slightly increased length and width, along with the change in overall profile, the standard European accessories either fit poorly or not at all.
There will be many solutions available as time marches on, but for now I hope to post links to some of the best places to get *verified* accessories.
Hip holster​
Leather
Canvas
Nylon
Other
Shoulder holster​
Leather
Canvas
Nylon
Other
Sync-n-Play Cradle With Extra Battery Charger​
Portrait Only
Landscape Only
Portrait and Landscape
Micro-USB Cable​
Charging Only (Cheap!)
Sync (Expensive!)
Extended Battery​
HTC Supported / Supplied
Unsupported / 3rd Party
Protectors​
Screen
Screen & Body
Body
If you have been able to located verified accessories for our phones, or if I have missed anything, please let me know here. I will attempt to keep this list updated at least once a day!
The TouchPro2 has a video-out cable via Mini-USB.
Does anyone know if this is planned for our HD2?
Just got in my invisibleSHIELD from Zagg.
Gonna install it later this afternoon. Here's hoping it fits the US version!
Snarksneeze said:
Just got in my invisibleSHIELD from Zagg.
Gonna install it later this afternoon. Here's hoping it fits the US version!
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I hope you ordered the one specifically for the TMOUS version then you should be all set.
lol your the only one posting on you own thread hahaha lol
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lol your the only one posting on you own thread hahaha lol
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I gotta ask... Do you feel foolish for having written that over an hour after RKnight1983's post?
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I hope you ordered the one specifically for the TMOUS version then you should be all set.
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Well, I'm not sure yet. Haven't had time to install it, but I did read on the package it just said "HTC HD2".
I compared the (in-package) sizes and it doesn't seem too off, but it will be hard to say for sure until I get the chance to sit down and put it on.
If not, I could always return it and hope someone finds one more compatible
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Well, I'm not sure yet. Haven't had time to install it, but I did read on the package it just said "HTC HD2".
I compared the (in-package) sizes and it doesn't seem too off, but it will be hard to say for sure until I get the chance to sit down and put it on.
If not, I could always return it and hope someone finds one more compatible
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http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-hd2-t-mobile-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
This is th one that I have and is the one that is made for the TMOUS HD2.

[Q] lcd/touchscreen?

is the lcd and toucscreen of xda2 and xda2i the same?
sakurasyaoran said:
is the lcd and toucscreen of xda2 and xda2i the same?
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Yes. It's totally the same.
aeroflyluby said:
Yes. It's totally the same.
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Ok,tecknical maybe yes, but: As I know, there are two different version:
60H00011-00:http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-LCD-Display...9783?pt=DE_PDA_Zubehör_KM&hash=item5ad3cb1a67
60H00022-xx:http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-LCD-Dis...0498?pt=DE_PDA_Zubehör_KM&hash=item5ad3d22212
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Ok,tecknical maybe yes, but: As I know, there are two different version:
60H00011-00:http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-LCD-Display...9783?pt=DE_PDA_Zubehör_KM&hash=item5ad3cb1a67
60H00022-xx:http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-LCD-Dis...0498?pt=DE_PDA_Zubehör_KM&hash=item5ad3d22212
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There are two versions, darker and lighter. But with connector and anything else it's fully compatible. Alpine always has lighter screen, this qtek i received has it too, my first hima has it too, but many himalayas have the darker one.
there is third version, with diffrent connector, but I never noticed this one.
wow.. thank you for the fast reply.. my hima lcd is broken and im having trouble finding one so i think of some alternative.. thanks alot..
sakurasyaoran said:
wow.. thank you for the fast reply.. my hima lcd is broken and im having trouble finding one so i think of some alternative.. thanks alot..
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I bought at ebay one in HK, china. Good contact, fast eprox. (10 days at X-mas), good price, good quality, nice price, for me it was ok.

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