Athena CPU Speed - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?

oleg_ku said:
Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?
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Ah yes, you may be right. I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!

And watch the battery last 2 minutes Boohoo.
There was a reason it autoscales! But yes, it kinda sucks that they say its great because of this 620mghz cpu, then run it at 100mghz half the time.

This is very interesting information. I see the wait icon quite often and wondered if the device was running at full speed! I think I'll get PHM!
-Krip

Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?

jlingo said:
I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!
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Well, Thanks a lot. I installed it and apprently it helps. Cause I use Navi software and always connect the device to a charger - so there is no worry about standby time.
Again - Thanks!!!

Moskus said:
Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?
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No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
Hope this helps,
Fin

It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".

RichardKAthena said:
It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".
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You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.

mysticbluebmw said:
You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.
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do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....

findus said:
No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
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Ah! Thank you for the information.

wu5262 said:
do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....
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Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.

mysticbluebmw said:
Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.
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here is the solution, just install this and it will be fine

Ahhhh, very useful. Thanks.

What speed settings are you guys running your Athena using PHM?

great tool - how about overclocking? lol
i read of guys running the pxa270 @667mhz...

Related

looking for CPU software to slow the CPU down, SAVE BATTERY!

Has any one got a link for a freeware program to do throtterling of the CPU as in not always running at 400Mhz? I've seen a few more complex ones that you have to pay for but they do all sorts of things? I am thinking of giving it a go and the whole point of Intel developing the XScale chip is because it's able to Scale down the speed (Hense the name) this saves a lot of battery life apparently...
Any ideas?
Downclock your processor will not take a lot saving your battery life (about 10%).
Use XCPUScalar for your Xscale cpu,it let you choose 100-200-300-400-472 Mhz mode.
Regards
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thanks for the reply unapproachable2kx I will take a look into that program... Great work...
Hear is a direct link for any one that would like to look it up as well
http://www.immiersoft.com/
does the program expire at all? has any one done any testing of just very basic PDA work as in address lookup, phone number lookup and that sorta stuff and seen how much extra battery like they can get out of there PDA?
Is there any programs that can automaticly scale the speed of the CPU acording to CPU load that is freeware? Will Microsoft be implamenting CPU scaling in the Second Edition of there 2003 OS? still can't belive that its not a built in feature if the CPU's where designed to scale acordingly...
Does no one else know of any others that can scale the CPU speed according to usage? ass well as the software being freeware?
The Xscaler prog is not free.
This is
http://elevatedstudios.com/pocket/
Thanks for the link xda-rocks, Have you had any trouble using this software on the XDA II, I see they give you a bit of babble about you may have to do hard resets and stuff like that.... Have you had any problems as yet... I have never used any CPU throterling software and am just wanting to play around with it a bit..
Do you notice a extended battery life if you use this software at all?
No probs so far, but haven't really had time to try it - only just installed myself.

XCPUScalar v2.93 released!! Looks like its OK this time

Here:-
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325
Specifically says support for '......i-Mate JasJar, O2 XDA Exec, Qtek 9000...'
Just tested the trial version and it looks like its OK this time without screen flickering and hanging.
FOSA said:
Here:-
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325
Specifically says support for '......i-Mate JasJar, O2 XDA Exec, Qtek 9000...'
Just tested the trial version and it looks like its OK this time without screen flickering and hanging.
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From that link you only can download version 2.92..!! for 2.93 download from here http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?programId=45&productId=53564
Not working
In my JJ is not working. ROM 1.13.82 from O2.
Ciao
RE
Nope, I got v2.93 from Pocketgear otherwise my system would have flicker and hang which happened for v2.92
Well, trial just expired
Doesn't work at all for me.. Choose cpu speed 624 press ok.. System hangs completely..
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Then I wont try it yet... I had a fit with the first version and my heartbeat went 100x than normal.. haha..
Plus, I've practiced the art of patience. I just wait for the "???" to turn into battery percentage in my today screen (Resco TOday plug in) before clicking the screen. It just takes 10 seconds or so.. better than forcing my device to be faster than it should be..
Works fine with me at 624 mhz.
What is the max speed you have been able to achieve?
Qtek 9000 XCPUscalar working at 624MHz
Seems to be working @ 624MHz, but with Auto Scale selected the speed does not seem to adjust automatically. Just sits there at 624MHz with range of CPU%ages between 32% @ 45% with only Activesync and no other programs running.
Also there seems to be only one 'speed settings' page which only allows scaling up to 624MHz not the 728MHz referred to as being supported. No sign of the 4 tabbed pages (Advanced; Meters and About pages missing) shown on the immiersoft website. This could however be due to running OzVGA.Therefor there seems to be no VGA support either.
Was working @ 624MHz
Further update.
System now hung.
When trying to check 'programs in use' the system just hangs.
Uninstall coming up.
Works like a beauty for me.
Use Advanced speed Settings:
104 mhz 25%
208 mhz 50%
312 mhz 75%
624 mhz >75%
I do not have the courage to try settings fater than 624 mhz. (you need to enable show frequencies above 624 mhz. to do that).
There is a bit of flickering screen flickering filter does not do much).
Main Memory or Stoage Card?
Have you installed to Main Memory, or to Storage Card?
Do not install to Storage Card.
Use Device Memory (same for Tweak2k2).
Now Working, but still no additional tabs
Thanks
Installed now to Main Memory.
Auto Scaling now seems to work, including up to 728MHz.
This seems to have worked and despite short usage time looks more stable than when on Storage Card.
Still only one 'speed settings' tab with no options to adjust thresholds etc.
I assume this must be due to a VGA support problem because the speed settings screen is definately qvga format and not VGA
You have to click on Advanced and there you will get Advanced Speed Settings Iif we are talking about the same thing).
You have to click on Advanced and there you will get Advanced Speed Settings Iif we are talking about the same thing).
You have to click on Advanced and there you will get Advanced Speed Settings Iif we are talking about the same thing).
Do you confirm 728 mhz works fine?
There is no 'advanced' button/menu item to select
Thanks for the advice, but as I said in my earlier post, there is only one "speed settings" page.
The only other items are the File; Options and Device menu's.
Swivel the screen around (in "portrait mode" and you should be able to see at the bottom of it Speed Advanced Meters and About (or set resolution to the default one).
OK Sorted
Great
If I exit OzVGA then the tabbed pages appear.
Thanks for your help.
I can see all the advanced speed settings on mine but it won't even run at 663 never mind any higher lol. Just a blank white screen unfortunately.

Overclocking

It's not intended for the Wizard but it works!
There is one limitation though, after standby it reverts back to default.
Thanks to Kremo for this find!
I tried it and it worked!
It said my OMAP is running at 180MHZ! I thougt it is 200Mhz?
So i should be able to boost the speed to 200 Mhz (programm uses 8Mhz steps, so it would be 204Mhz) without any problem?!
steewb said:
It said my OMAP is running at 180MHZ! I thougt it is 200Mhz?
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on my wizard the about page says 195, TCPMP says 168 and this app says 180...
I used TCPMP to check.
Where do i find that TCPMP?
Sweet, does it speed up both cores? Anyone seen what speed the wizard maxes out at?
steewb said:
Where do i find that TCPMP?
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Google for it.
any benchmark after overclocked ????
So the question is whos a dare to overclock a £500 device.
not me thats for sure!
jimmy_boy said:
So the question is whos a dare to overclock a £500 device.
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You'd be surprised how many...
rookery said:
any benchmark after overclocked ????
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See pics.The filenames are:
SpeedShownByOmapclock_SpeedShownByTCPMP.jpg
wow this is amazing i have been waiting for this forever. my sjphone is really fast now and i have less skipping. my snes emulator runs so much better. thanks for sharing this with us.
wow even skype works great with voice cancelation checked!!!! finally flawless voice over ip
That's all great, but more speed comes with more heat... Does anybody have an idea what this overclocker will do with the cpu? Does the OMAP cpu have a way of measuring the temperature?
Greets,
David
@dafit
If you overdo it,the worst that happens is that it resets itself.
@grinny11
Just don't forget to run the app before you use e.g. Skype because speed goes back to default when you put your phone in standby.
thanks bolasz. the highest stable i get mine to is 264 through the app which reports 250 in tcpmp. if i do anything higher it just freezes and i reset.
Official discussion and new versions
http://www.wce.by/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2014
P.S Sorry - use translator with russian language on english.
Parameters of the command line
OmapClock -clock <freq> [-confirm] [-launch <path> [-restore]]
-clock <freq>
installs frequency of the processor in MHZ
-confirm
require acknowledgements of the change the frequency
-launch <path>
start the program (the way to reference in rabbit earses!)
-restore
restore former frequency after termination of the uncared-for program (is ignored unless it is given parameter -launch)
Sequence parameter importances has not.
The Examples:
OmapClock -clock 132
OmapClock -clock 144 -confirm
OmapClock -clock 144 -launch "\Storage\test.exe" -restore
do I need to run this program affter very standby ?
Carmi said:
do I need to run this program affter very standby ?
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Unfortunately yes.
But actualy there is no point to run your device at higher frequency all time.
The -launch parameter as suggested by arc is great to switch to higher freq only when needed e.g when you want to use Skype.
i'm not familiar with command lines for pocket pc. how would i make it so that it overclocks for skype and restores it in the end. do i make some kind of bat file?
grinny11 said:
i'm not familiar with command lines for pocket pc. how would i make it so that it overclocks for skype and restores it in the end. do i make some kind of bat file?
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Change Skype's shortcut in \Windows\Start menu to
OmapClock -clock 216 -launch "\where\skype\is\installed\skype.exe" -restore

Programs to Display the CPU loading

Are there any progaram like the taksman in XP that can display which running application using how many % of CPU?
Yes, try this task manager.
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
It also shows CPU usage.
try this app:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=5367
it is awesome...and looks impressive to your mates
phm taskmanager has the look and feel of Windows
Phm task manager is a good app but not wm5 compatible.
Moreover this app allows to hard reset your device, which is very dangerous. A hard reset will clear all your RAM.
I wish PHilippe Majerus (the fantastic developer) will update his app.
Hi Cizake,
I use phm on my wizard, and I didn't notice any problem. What makes you say it's not WM5 compatible?
phm task manager was released almost 5 years ago.
CPU accuracy is by far not accurate and I have checked it using several other apps. OMAP runs differently then other CPU.
Killing a process will cause a soft reset almost anytime - for example terminating poutlook.exe will crash your device. It does not happen when using more up to date tasks manager.
I dont have the same number of running processes on PHM as I have on other apps- why? maybe because of hidden files not showing on phm, but I am not sure.
I invite you to read some comments here on strange behaviour with WM5 :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=480
It's in french but I guess it's not a problem for you
WOWO Thanks everyone
Hi,
there is an freeware application from AximSite written by DogFood.
It has a neat power and/or ram status as a 1 pixel liner on top and display CPU usage monitor on the bottom 1 pixel line.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=96798&highlight=dogfood
Regards,
Hon
cizake said:
CPU accuracy is by far not accurate and I have checked it using several other apps. OMAP runs differently then other CPU
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Thanks for your input, I was not aware of this. I checked the forum you mentioned. You're right it was not too much of a problem for me :lol:
As for the bug concerning the process tab not showing up, I found a bypass. If you activate your SIP while on PHM, then the process tab appears. Strange beahaviour but I can live with it.
Anyway, I guess you're right maybe there are better apps for WM5. But I like PhM's apps because they are small and well to the point of what they are intended for. Like PHM Regedit !
Posted here
Here is the monitor from the Aximsite, for those who don't want to register.....
pat12 said:
Thanks for your input, I was not aware of this.
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De rien!!

BatteryMeter or OMAPClock

Hi Guys,
Pretty impressed with this site, the dedication and commitment everyone here has.
Just thought to pick minds....
Which is better of the 2 clocking apps : OMAP (of which I could only find ver 0.2) or BatteryMeter , gives the best overall performance vis installation file size and continous use ?
Your thoughts please
AD10
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
Don't you mean BatteryStatus instead of BatteryMeter?
Anyway, BatteryStatus, despite the name, has also overclocking features and has the advantage that the settings remains if you perform a reset. As far as I know, Omapclock does not.
hanmin said:
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
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here's the helper
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/OmapClockPlus.htm
Thanks guys,
Yes I meant BatteryStatus and OMAPClock.
I have tried both, and stuck to BatteryStatus - offers more information and seems to be constantly supported by Kai.
OmapClock and batteryStatus read different clocks
I used OMAPCLOCK to set the clock to 208 MHZ, however batterystaus, even not using its overclock function reads it as 221 MHZ instead.
Which one to trust???
Tks
I used OMAP for a while, but I was able to overclock max 246, now I use batterystatus and I OC to 286 without any problem. (Also BS has many more features over OMAP)

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