Has any one got a link for a freeware program to do throtterling of the CPU as in not always running at 400Mhz? I've seen a few more complex ones that you have to pay for but they do all sorts of things? I am thinking of giving it a go and the whole point of Intel developing the XScale chip is because it's able to Scale down the speed (Hense the name) this saves a lot of battery life apparently...
Any ideas?
Downclock your processor will not take a lot saving your battery life (about 10%).
Use XCPUScalar for your Xscale cpu,it let you choose 100-200-300-400-472 Mhz mode.
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thanks for the reply unapproachable2kx I will take a look into that program... Great work...
Hear is a direct link for any one that would like to look it up as well
http://www.immiersoft.com/
does the program expire at all? has any one done any testing of just very basic PDA work as in address lookup, phone number lookup and that sorta stuff and seen how much extra battery like they can get out of there PDA?
Is there any programs that can automaticly scale the speed of the CPU acording to CPU load that is freeware? Will Microsoft be implamenting CPU scaling in the Second Edition of there 2003 OS? still can't belive that its not a built in feature if the CPU's where designed to scale acordingly...
Does no one else know of any others that can scale the CPU speed according to usage? ass well as the software being freeware?
The Xscaler prog is not free.
This is
http://elevatedstudios.com/pocket/
Thanks for the link xda-rocks, Have you had any trouble using this software on the XDA II, I see they give you a bit of babble about you may have to do hard resets and stuff like that.... Have you had any problems as yet... I have never used any CPU throterling software and am just wanting to play around with it a bit..
Do you notice a extended battery life if you use this software at all?
No probs so far, but haven't really had time to try it - only just installed myself.
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Needs some benchmarking, but feels faster after visiting this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39099&highlight=
How did u enable it in your compact??? I created the registry key HKLM-Software-HTC-Power and the dword value ProcessorPageFlag as requested, but my Power screen still doesn't show any Processor page!!!
Maybe i'd have to copy power.exe and powerstateon.exe in my \windows folder?
PLS help.
Bye
I ran the power.exe that's included in the zipfile. The original Magician power.exe doesn't contain the power tab. As it runs perfectly from every location I stored it under \Storage\Power\Power.exe. Don't want to overwrite the original power.exe.
Regards, M
Did you try it with a benchmark, like SPB Benchmark?
Not yet, first have to download it...
oltp said:
I ran the power.exe that's included in the zipfile. The original Magician power.exe doesn't contain the power tab. As it runs perfectly from every location I stored it under \Storage\Power\Power.exe. Don't want to overwrite the original power.exe.
Regards, M
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Which file(s) should I put on \windows\ if I want to replace power.exe?
As long as no harm, I will keep the mods power.exe
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.
No, it seems to be not working on oures PXA 272 , may be for PXA270 is good,, like XGuru 1.00 also not working on magician!
Maybe it's an impression, but i see my ppc faster!
rustoss said:
No, it seems to be not working on oures PXA 272 , may be for PXA270 is good,, like XGuru 1.00 also not working on magician!
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I got a PXA272 & it seems to be working. Signed up for SPB Benchmark yesterday, still no sign of download instructions :-( something must have gone wrong.
I gave it a shot.. did not notice any improvments at all... :?
1 day already....
Feel no speed improvement on O2 XDA II mini. Even I try to create small iteration program to count up to 10000, Turbo mode give me longer time ==> slow down.
Too bad, at the end of today I will remove it .
Regards,
Arto.
So that's maybe why it feels smoother. Scrolling etc looks nicer with it. Hope to benchmark today, if slower the thread title will be cganged as well...
Regards, M
Seems to run the programs a bit faster. However I don't have time to benchmark it...
Downloading the benchmark at the moment....
TCPMP has test . I`ve checked it out, no difference
Done two SPB benchmarks yesterday evening & damn a magician is slow ;-). It took 3 hours for two tests which claim to be a 30min test each. Must say I did it on my fully loaded magician to see what's the everyday real life gain/loss.
Today's program include three tests I think: without increased cache, without increased glyph's & plain WM2003SE after a hard reset. If the performance gain of my chances is significant I'll add a last test: plain WM2003SE with all my speed add-ons.
See you, M
oltp said:
Done two SPB benchmarks yesterday evening & damn a magician is slow ;-). It took 3 hours for two tests which claim to be a 30min test each. Must say I did it on my fully loaded magician to see what's the everyday real life gain/loss.
Today's program include three tests I think: without increased cache, without increased glyph's & plain WM2003SE after a hard reset. If the performance gain of my chances is significant I'll add a last test: plain WM2003SE with all my speed add-ons.
See you, M
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How? Any improvement seen?
I agree,
seems to work for me. Am seeing the windows wait symbols plenty less and operations feel smoother.
Thanx a mil for the installer. cab
Benchmark results probably inconclusive
Haven't fully analyzed the benchmark result, but first impression is that in some areas there are minor improvements. Others show a degradation.
Maybe I'll post tge first analysis today so you can decide for yourself, must say that the benchmark was run on my fully installed device. Haven't found the time last week to do it on a plain device.
Regards, M
Okay, finally figured out how to run this app in my mini. After which I see a very slight improvement in speed during launching of an application.
It's most noticeable when I run Skype with other stuff already loaded in memory. Also, I'm seeing less of the "hour glass" icon...hmmm. More testing.
Hi Guys,
Pretty impressed with this site, the dedication and commitment everyone here has.
Just thought to pick minds....
Which is better of the 2 clocking apps : OMAP (of which I could only find ver 0.2) or BatteryMeter , gives the best overall performance vis installation file size and continous use ?
Your thoughts please
AD10
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
Don't you mean BatteryStatus instead of BatteryMeter?
Anyway, BatteryStatus, despite the name, has also overclocking features and has the advantage that the settings remains if you perform a reset. As far as I know, Omapclock does not.
hanmin said:
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
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here's the helper
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/OmapClockPlus.htm
Thanks guys,
Yes I meant BatteryStatus and OMAPClock.
I have tried both, and stuck to BatteryStatus - offers more information and seems to be constantly supported by Kai.
OmapClock and batteryStatus read different clocks
I used OMAPCLOCK to set the clock to 208 MHZ, however batterystaus, even not using its overclock function reads it as 221 MHZ instead.
Which one to trust???
Tks
I used OMAP for a while, but I was able to overclock max 246, now I use batterystatus and I OC to 286 without any problem. (Also BS has many more features over OMAP)
Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?
oleg_ku said:
Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?
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Ah yes, you may be right. I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!
And watch the battery last 2 minutes Boohoo.
There was a reason it autoscales! But yes, it kinda sucks that they say its great because of this 620mghz cpu, then run it at 100mghz half the time.
This is very interesting information. I see the wait icon quite often and wondered if the device was running at full speed! I think I'll get PHM!
-Krip
Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?
jlingo said:
I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!
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Well, Thanks a lot. I installed it and apprently it helps. Cause I use Navi software and always connect the device to a charger - so there is no worry about standby time.
Again - Thanks!!!
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Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?
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No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
Hope this helps,
Fin
It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".
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It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".
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You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.
mysticbluebmw said:
You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.
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do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....
findus said:
No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
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Ah! Thank you for the information.
wu5262 said:
do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....
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Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.
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Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.
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here is the solution, just install this and it will be fine
Ahhhh, very useful. Thanks.
What speed settings are you guys running your Athena using PHM?
great tool - how about overclocking? lol
i read of guys running the pxa270 @667mhz...
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
Hello, first of all, -and I'm not sure about this- I think that the ROMs images are not available at this site's FTP anymore.
Then, if you can have a ROM, prefer the "plain vanilla" ones, unless you might need several extra programs, if you need speed, you need a light and simple ROM, there are several of them, from Helmi's, to Ivan's and others that I just can't remember now, look out in the posts and find a stable one to use, test it with your app until you think is the right one.
Alternatively you can increase your CPU's clock, but this drains the battery faster, a solution for this might be to install a larger battery, your use of the uni might permit all of these things.
I haven't tested any custom ROMs, but I have a friend with a uni that has installed in its uni a Helmi's ROM, I saw it, it seems quite speedier than my T-mobile one, he told me that the voice tags call fuction didn't work and something else, but, was it faster indeed.
bye
stuartaw said:
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
if you want i may be able to make a clean rom for you...
actually try increasing the pagingpool a simple hexedit on existing roms (wm6 section of this forum look for helmi's kitchen)
Thanks for the suggestions so far.
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
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I've tried killing everything I can. The processor is occupied by one thread within devices.exe; and I can't really kill that process... Everything else had minimal/no impact.
Stuart
What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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The remote tools in Visual Studio. Shows 1%-4% processor usage at idle for other PDAs, 30-35% for TyTN and Universal (the only 2 HTC machines I had access to). I used the kernel tracker thing to track execution, and it was one particular thread in devices.exe which was both busy, and also, sometimes, thrashing around at <100 micro-s frequency.
This figure does fit with our other experiences. The particular speed problem we have is with a library which is spec-ed to work on any machine with 400Mhz+ processor. Works fine on other machines, including some quite old PDAs, but has 'issues' due to slow processor on the Universal and is simply unusable on the TyTN.
I couldn't find anything I could do to improve this in RAM - and a colleague asked if any of the alternate ROMs might help - and I've haven't got a clue, but hoped someone might know if any of the ROMs are visibly faster.
Stuart
Have you tried changing the default clock speed?
Hi Stuart,
I think there are a lot of applications out there which allow you to overclock and change the clock speed of Xscale CPU's. Things like XCPUScalar 2007. If you look at this thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304786)you should be able to find some useful information regarding scaling the CPU speed, hope this helps.
Will.
Hi everybody,
are there any experiences with Charmer and overclocking? I'd like to speed up my PDA, especially when using CPU-intensive programs such as iGo/TomTom (GPS navigation). Before installing a bunch of probably useless utilities, I just want to check whether anybody is overclocking his device.
Which programs do you use (e.g. omapscaler) and are does this lead to any noticeable changes?
Using batterystatus here which includes OMAP and CPUScaler.
I have to say i am finding some difficiulties linked to the fact that the screen often misalign and the overclocking seems to be having problem with spb backup (it makes the device freeze).
The setting i have are
Min 143Mhz
Org. 195Mhz
Max 247Mhz
I am also using the "Add short time boost" functionality at 273Mhz.
For CPU% thresold i stick with teh program default values.
Apart from this the speed is great and allow me to run a bunch of Touch application designed for more powerful/recent telephones wihtout much problems.
P.S. tomtom doesn't need overclocking, it is not a CPUI intensive application adnd runs great with factory clocking.
Thanks, I'll give batterystatus a try.
CPUScaler
CPUScaler, the best I ever used.
regards
Batterystatus is currently the best overclocking program for OMAP processors. You can easily overclock it to 273, some models can take even 286 and 299.