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Voice recognition with Qtek 2020: possible or not ???

Can anyone tell me the truth ??? Is it possible or not ?
My previous GSM was a Motorola Timeport. When I had to telephone someone, I just spoke the name of that person, and my Motorola dialled the correct number.
For example I said "Parents", and the phone number of my parents was automatically dialled.
Can I do such thing with my BT headset Sony/ericsson HBH-35 and my Qtek 2020 ???
Some people say it is totaly impossibble ???

I cann´t tell you, if that would work, but i know, that you can use voice dial via some extra software. It works well.
What i don´t know, if you can use your BT for Voice recognition....
Stefan

Aha, thanks Stefan. ( we have almost the same flag - lol ! )
So voice-recognition would work, but only with the microphone of the Qtek itself, pobably not with bluetooth....
So I guess I have to use speed dial in the car...

yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand, try it¡¡ it´s very easy to install and very funny.

srlobo said:
yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand
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I assume you mean that voice-dialing is possible, NOT voice-dialing through a BT headset. Right?
From all of the information I have gathered, voice-dialing through a BT headset is just not possible at this time. If you have gotten it to work, I'll bet there are thousands who would like to know how you did it! :wink:

yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum

Rudegar wrote:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
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I have searched and can find nothing that indicates that voice-dialing through BT works yet. There is a great deal of discussion, but no solution (that I can find). I believe that a BT HandsFree profile is required, but not included with the Himalaya BT implementation.
We can certainly hope that one is included in WM2003 SE, should that actually make it to this platform.

some people were talking about if it was possible to use the ipaq bluetooth stack on a xda2 if that works

I'm using Voice Dial sinse 3 month and it works grate. Even in the car I can ask any contact of my data base ( +/-1000) name of contact + mobile or at home etc... The program ask you for confirmation by reading once more the contact name and asks if this is correct.
If you say "yes" it compose the request phone number.
I'm using HBH 65 BT headset for phone and the intergreted micro from Qtek for voice recognition.
Try it for free at : http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14
I have the french version

So Kiyeko -
Are you saying that you can press the button on your BT headset, say a name from your contacts list into the microphone on the headset and the i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020 will dial the number? If so, I would be interested to know what software recognizes the headset button-press as the initiator of the voice-dialing software.
I have tried Pocket BT Tools with Fonix Voice Dial and was never able to get it to recognize the headset button press as the initiator of the program. Oh, by the way - I tried it with the MS program as well.

Returning to the initial question posted by mvb95.
Yes, with your hardware (Qtek 2020 and HBH35) is possible to use voice recognition to put the calls.
You must install Vito Voice Dialer PE v3.0. Eventually assign a hardware button to the voice dialer. Record all the tag voices you want.
With both devices paired and turned on (HBH35 blinking green), press the hardware button assigned to Vito and say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset. You don’t need to use the Qtek speaker, don’t need to press the HBH35 button, nor confirm the recognition with “yes”, like in the Fonix.
Is simple and ease.

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say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset.
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Are you SURE it is using the headset microphone to input the name? I have downloaded and installed the program, then set a hardware button and recorded some voice tags.
When I press the hardware button, it does not activate my HBH-30 to input the tag, it records it with the device's microphone.
Are you using Pocket BlueTooth tools?

Hi Brian:
I use it always in my car.
My hardware: Qtek 2020 (Rom: 1.72.00WWE, Radio version: 1.14.00) and headset SE HBH-35.
I have tried several times covering the microphone hole with my finger and, by other side, speak to the headset 2 or 3 meters away from the Qtek.
With Vito you don’t need to say “Call John” but only “John”.
I don’t use the Pocket Bluetooth Tools because the latest Rom has the Bluetooth headset profile improved and this software doesn’t work with my car kit handsfree Nokia.
I can’t put my hands on fire, but the only thing I’m sure is that I can talk normally with the Vito Voice Dialer and the headset in my car.

How to detect pressing button on headset?

Does any known how to detect when user press answer button on headset? What event or message generated by system? I find only some event that occurs when user insert headset jack in phone.

The AG service gets a "AT+CKPD=200" message
What i'm interestet in ; How do you send these AT commands ?

I'm sorry, but what is "AG service"?

Audio Gateway.
As far as I remember WM5 has standart API to register AG message handler. WM2003SE and older don't have a standart way.

It's not good. I'm interested in WM2003

Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!

Re: Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
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I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
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Couldn't agree more!
About voice dialer. I thought it was just because Atom needs bluetooth headset button to be pressed for a while to launch dialer. It acts so with wired headset. Unfortunately, i have just one bluetooth headset to play with. And it turns off after 2 sec. holding the button.
On my Dopod 818pro everything acts like a charm (VD runs after a single press), so it isn't a WM5 bug.

can someone enable activating MS Voice Command from a wired headset for WM5?
it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

I have the same problem using a bluetooth headset but if I use the wired headset supplied with my Atom it works fine.

that's good news. so, many OEMs are realizing the importance of this feature. so far, they have it in the Treo 700w and according to you, the Atom.
btw, did you have MS Voice Command pre-installed in your Atom, or did you buy it separately?
thanks,

The talk button on the wired headset is a "fake" button. It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.

It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
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Are you sure about that?
I've disembled quite a few headsets and the usual way is to shortcircut the mic-wire with one of the stereo-wires, whitch in return has to be cought by the mainboard and then translated to a command.

I'm not sure, but seems pretty feasible. That button is only used by the phone applicacion, which needs to open the wave input device.
Detecting the button pressing is pretty simple: recording at 16 bits, the average of the absolute value of the samples in complete silence is at least 100, with the talk button pressed, 6 or 7.

Prophet Bluetooth voice dailling

My "old" P800 was able to announce who was calling in my Bluetooth headset. After pushing a button on my Bluetooth headset I was able to do voice dialling. It could even pick up the call without pushing a button on Bluetooth headset.
Can wm 2005 on the Prophet do all this?

I have this working on my Jamin without any hacks

Care to share how? I just got a JAMin. No mention of voice dial except by launching program and certainly no mention of BT button. Pairs with my Plantronics M3000 fine but BT button doeas nothing. Any ideas?
Regards

Query to Wardy about Bluetooth Headset & Voice command
Hi Wardy does your Jamin let you control MS Voice command using the button on the BT headset? Or do you have to press the voice command button on the PDA and then talk through the headset?

Voice Command, once it is installed on the Prophet, works just like it did on the Magician. However, the Prophet (at least in Jamin flavor) has an app that lets you create voice tags to control most of it's functions, and this app can be started by using the button on your bluetooth headset (and accepts audio from your bluetooth headset). There are a few limitations, though: you have to create a voice tag for every single item that you want it to launch... and you can't create a voice tag for Voice Command :?. In other words, it is (as far as I'm concerned) completely worthless :evil:

Re: Query to Wardy about Bluetooth Headset & Voice comma
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Hi Wardy does your Jamin let you control MS Voice command using the button on the BT headset? Or do you have to press the voice command button on the PDA and then talk through the headset?
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Hi no sorry I am using the supplied voice command software. Its not a problem for me putting voise dial numbers in and I believe it gives better recognition than text to speach. But that's my view

voice recognition bluetooth headset

Hi guys
i have two problems with my spv m3100. (1)I keep getting this data connection error and i've been told to try and turn off 3G.This is the problem,i cant cant find the option to turn 3G off.
(2)Does anyone know of any bluetooth headset which will do voice recognition with the m3100.
Would really appreciate any help ..Thanks

bt headset w/ voice recognition
Nokia HS-12w works great w/ the jasjam. Push phone button to answer calls and if you push more than a second, will enable voice commands. Also has fm radio and buttons to control media player remotely!

1. look at my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283797
2. dont know

Anybody got MS VoiceCommand / BlueAudio to work?

I used to have VoiceCommand and BlueAudio perfectly working on my X1. Now this crappy X2 that messes up so much, canNOT run any Audio to the Bluetooth Headset.
It should have the MS Bluetooth Stack so these programs should work. Perhaps it is some registry change that makes them work?
Anybody got them to work and know how to? Thanks!
It seems that the Bluetooth AudioGateway dll files is not working properly. Tried different dll's from different versions but still did not find the "correct" working one. Anybody???

Couldn't get MS Voice Command working.
Vito Voice Dialer works great though.
Haven't managed to make my X2 work with my existing bluetooth headset.
X2 says it's paierd with the device, but then you can't answer calls or anything else.
If it wasn't for the $$$ I spent to buy this piece of crap, I'd have a new phone already!

Okay, is this vito voice dialer dialing VIA bluetooth or not? And HOW do you press a key on the phone to activate it? What key? And just read their manual, they don't even mention any bluetooth capability there. Can you use bluetooth and how?
Because voice command works (more or less) HOWEVER NOT via bluetooth and since there is NO hard/software button to assign to it, it cannot be activated via the phone either!
I have to press the bluetooth button and then the sound (mic and voice) come out of the phone speaker.
I strongly think this has to do with the bluetooth gateway SE is using with the X2. But I was hoping somebody technical could have found a solution by now. For me voice dialing is essential and my X1 was perfect.
With blue audio I could listen to musik on a mono bluetooth!
Just to mention it, I use SE hbh-PV740 and it always works if making 'regular' calls via the phone over bluetooth. But I cannot initiate it nor voice dial.

I can't get my X2 to do anything with my bluetooth kit, so all your questions re: bluetooth I can't answer.
I start vito from a button on the screen and it works.
For me and my phone, the vito product is much more accurate and reliable than voice command.