I was wondering if there was a way to push mail without the use of Exchange.
Everything I have seen leads to no, but if I have noticed one thing around here, is that you folks don't seem to like NO very often... kinda like my wife.
www.emoze.com
I use it and it is close to perfect for me.
It's free, simple, installs on your Desktop PC and a client on your TYTN. I programed it to push every 10 minutes - more than enough for me.
Thanks...
Have to wait for the VISTA version (and probably office 2007 as well)
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Thanks...
Have to wait for the VISTA version (and probably office 2007 as well)
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It works without any trouble with Office 2007.
Thanks... they say they dont work with Vista as of yet.
Try with Kerio Mail Server
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Try with Kerio Mail Server
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There are currently problems with push & Kerio. I have submitted a ticket before
Christmas and the bug is being looked into. Hopefully fixed in their next release.
If you have Cingular you can get Xpressmail Personal Edition.
is there anyone who knows if it is possible to change the name from Emoze to something else? (account name)
pb with emoze is you have to have PC connected all the time, otherwise no email is pushed forward ... just my 2 cents ...
Sure you do. Your PC is your server so it has to be on all the time. What is the problem with that?
You could just use a free www.mail2web.com exchange account. If you want to change the outgoing email address all you pay is $1.99. I went from 1and1.com exchange to there service and its about the same minus customer service.
pink
I thought you can set your pop3 email to check it a certain interval in minutes...like..1, 2, 3 miniutes, etc...
I have it set up on mine...so it does log into your pop3 server...and it is free with no additional software. I forgot where to go and set the time interval.
Wratran,
I forgot where to go and set the time interval.
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If memory serves correctly, it is in the "Accounts" tab of the program.
Yep its in accounts then follow the setup thing until you get to servre information and then click on the options button
I wish there was a way to make it check every day though instead of the max being every hour.
Cheers
Beware Emoze...if you leave the default settings you might end up draining your battery if you're constantly in a 3G area. My wife's 8525 was like this...it checked almost constantly and the 3G use would drain the unit to half battery about 3 hours after being unplugged from the charger. Thankfully she's on unlimited data so I don't have to worry about the bill .
Install her EMOZE on a memory card instead of the main memory. This will make a difference and also it won't drain the memory. Also have her install the Band Switch program and stay on GSM most of the time. If she requires large downloads she can switch to UMTS for a limited time.
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Install her EMOZE on a memory card instead of the main memory. This will make a difference and also it won't drain the memory. Also have her install the Band Switch program and stay on GSM most of the time. If she requires large downloads she can switch to UMTS for a limited time.
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that is what I usually do, except I don't use emoze but the trick is worth been mentionned.
You can use OpenPush by ivorh, see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279369
on most of the latest ROM's, the messaging client will check at least every 5 mins. Im on Black 2.5 and I am someone that goes back and forth with people with Sidekicks and its enough for me to check every 5 mins vs. spending money and setting up new accounts.
Go Mail messanger > Options> highlight and select the account you want to change >Next till you see advanced settings> under automatic send receive select interval.
I stayed on WM5 til this was available on WM6. Why pay for push?
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The subject says it all!!!
Now that's one worthwhile update really!
I'm just loving the directpush technology....its just amazing! I guess its goodbye RIM....wonder how bberry is going to differenciate....!
The battery life is phenomenal....a whole day of use with direct push enabled and gprs always on, my battery is down to just 53%.....mind blowing!
way to go!
Cheers,
San
I agree, Direct Push is pretty good and I've heard whispers in my company that we might be rolling it out in the near future.
however you said a day's worth of use brings it down to 53%.
This seems a bit heavy to be honest, I've had use of a blackberry for a few weeks and i'm pretty sure it didnt drain as fast as that.
Overall though I'm very happy with the new functionality.
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I agree, Direct Push is pretty good and I've heard whispers in my company that we might be rolling it out in the near future.
however you said a day's worth of use brings it down to 53%.
This seems a bit heavy to be honest, I've had use of a blackberry for a few weeks and i'm pretty sure it didnt drain as fast as that.
Overall though I'm very happy with the new functionality.
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I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.
I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.
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It sounds like you are talking about the old system - I.e. Where it required an sms address and then the servered sent you a hidden sms which your phone used as a trigger to sync with the server. (I never bothered trying to get that set up because I can't see the point in paying 10p for the sms + the data charge just to each email more tha every 5 minutes.
Direct push on the other-hand is supposed to work by your device creating a secure http connection to the server, which is kept open on both sides, but no data is sent until a message arrives at the exchange, at which point it is transmitted down this connection. This completely cuts out the sms.
I can't wait till O2 release a new rom with the direct push stuff - it may be worth going with the jasjar rom just to get it.
Cheers
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I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.
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It sounds like you are talking about the old system - I.e. Where it required an sms address and then the servered sent you a hidden sms which your phone used as a trigger to sync with the server. (I never bothered trying to get that set up because I can't see the point in paying 10p for the sms + the data charge just to each email more tha every 5 minutes.
Direct push on the other-hand is supposed to work by your device creating a secure http connection to the server, which is kept open on both sides, but no data is sent until a message arrives at the exchange, at which point it is transmitted down this connection. This completely cuts out the sms.
I can't wait till O2 release a new rom with the direct push stuff - it may be worth going with the jasjar rom just to get it.
Cheers
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I'm sorry asking again about this question but in order to have clear idea, do you mind to put same mail address in the request of "delivery address" as you have for exchange?
thanks.
You do not put anything in for the address - this is for systems using pre SP2 push technology or systems that will not allow an incoming connection and wish to continue to use the AUTD (or auto up to date) system. This involves the exhange system sending an email to an address that then sends an SMS to your device - this then initiates the sync.
SP2 push, as stated before relies on a persistent HTTP(S) connection to the exchange server.
Try it without anything in the address field and see if it works - if not then check that the exchange system you are accessing has been set up to take advantage of the new push update technology.
Escuse my question but which ROM version are we talking about?
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1.30.76 ROM
1.09 Radio
For those of you whose mail servers dont have ms exchange, you can use a free trial with 4smartphone.net for 15 days and hook it up to any of your email accounts. Works like a charm! (thanks Carnivor for suggesting 4smartphone!)
Cheers!
San
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durius said:
Escuse my question but which ROM version are we talking about?
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1.09 Radio
For those of you whose mail servers dont have ms exchange, you can use a free trial with 4smartphone.net for 15 days and hook it up to any of your email accounts. Works like a charm! (thanks Carnivor for suggesting 4smartphone!)
Cheers!
San
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It's a good idea except for people like me that our corporate exchange has a rule that doesn't support to forward messages automatically outside. :evil:
does it mean the client device has to be always connected to the internet? (through any connections: GPRS. wifi, dial up). I thought it should work even its not connected sometimes?
The battery life is phenomenal....a whole day of use with direct push enabled and GPRS always on, my battery is down to just 53%.....mind blowing!
I experienced the opposite. Since mine upgraded, I have poor battery life. Not sure why. My device is now very fast. But battery life is decreased.
From 8 -12, only with phone and BT on, the battery drops to 50%.
I also noticed that the BT connection drops once in a while. So far I had about 5 times drop for thepast week.
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does it mean the client device has to be always connected to the internet? (through any connections: GPRS. wifi, dial up). I thought it should work even its not connected sometimes?
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Yes, you have to be connected to the internet in some manner for it to work. However, when you use GPRS to stay connected, it doesnt drain your battery to the magnitude you'd expect. Thats because MS has implemented a new way of sending out data, and the battery drains only when it does heavy transfer (which is not the case). Also, a whole day of usage has costed me just 180KB for heartbeat only (i subtracted the mail sizes approximately...)
Its an excellent solution in my regard! I sent a few test mails from my laptop, and i was astonished to see them arrive within 5-10 seconds after the mail was sent! I guess its flawless
Cheers!
San
i have found the direct push a charm, i am using about 1mb per day. battery drain is no worse. i normally get the email on my pda before outlook picks the mail up
Paul
Is there any documentation about the Push email technollogy? Manual? do i need to have a exchange server in order to be able to use Push mail, or can it be done using my proviser's email server?
regards
Arjan :arrow:
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hi
I'm currently running a mail server on a dedicated box (host @ datacenter 30€/month) under linux with courrier-imap. There is a way to implement IMAP IDLE function, that is almost the same than pushing emails.
I actualy tested it without FAM (File Alteration Monitor). Fam allow you to have a realtime email like blackberry. I don't need it, the basic IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE do a check every minutes and update if there is a mail.
I tested this feature through telnet and it worked lovely.
Now, in order to be able to use this feature over your windows mobile, you have the choice between to softwares.
The first is vgsmail http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ (free trial)
This one will just enable the IMAP IDLE feature on your pocket outlook (seems to be the more elegant way to implement it)
The second is WIS Flexmail 2007 (search at google ) (free trial)
This one is a new client (i don't like to change my use personnaly)
The major problem of the both solutions is that you have to pay for it.
Does anyone can do a patch for pocket outlook to implement imap idle fonction on it ?
Regards.
Reference thread: Here
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
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Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
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Hi, thanks for your tips, btw i like to know something, is it a standalone program or a plugin for pocket outlook ?
Regards.
Its an addon for pocket outlook that manages the account and the push functionality. It also does other types of accounts. It gave me push email for my work account and pop accounts.
You still read/reply and manage your emails using pocket outlook.
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Fantastic, gonna test it tomorrow !
Thanks buddy !
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I tested this solution, sounds like a third party server is getting email from your server :/. It won't be a problem if this project didn't looks like another commercial push (visto like).
Actualy Seven is acting like a visto, sevens server try to fetch mail ~2mn and push it on they proprietary client, who is pushing the message @ pocket outlook.
It means that my mail is going through seven mail server and Seven has all access granted to my mailbox.
I'm just looking for a soft (without thrid party server checking) enabling the IMAP IDLE fonction.
Test of vgsmail & flexmail
I tried to test them with imap idle
vgsmail has been renamed to EmansioPushMail, great, but it just crash my Hermes (Schap's 3.54 ROM). Tried an old cab called Vsgmail-Pushmail.cab (looks like an old beta). Result is the same (just with a different program name )
flexmail is working with imap idle correctly, but it's eating up all my memory (92% busy). So my Hermes just finish to crash cause it don't get enough memory (GPRS+Flexmail+msn+Audio Player).
The both solution are non free ...
Is there a chance to get imap idle implemented on pocket outlook someday ?
A desesperate Linux's mail server admin.
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Hi,
Actualy, the option that you are using is wasting a lot of bandwith.
Send/Receive procedure
1/ contact imap/pop server
2/ auth on it
3/ check message
This have an effective cost of bandwith (wich is limited to 10mo/month in my case)
It means that if you use this system you gonna waiste almost all bandwith just to check if there is some mails.
Imap Idle procedure
1/ contact/auth once
2/ enter idle mode
3/ server send a notification to the client entered in idle mode
This solution permit to don't waste bandwith and provide a real push solution (you have to install File Alteration Monitor on your mail server in order to get it) withouth FAM it works also but you can get a delay (less than 1mn).
This solution is the best cause you are not dependant of a third party who's all access on your mailbox (specialy for work purposes)
We don't want to set up any microsoft server or exchange servers (linux ftw).
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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I gave a try on it, it doesn't implement imap idle feature, thanks anyway
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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ok, thx for the clarification!
if the IDLE and lemonade would work in Pocket Outlook, would we be able to get push email in combination with the new GMail IMAP support? would be nice and cheap I guess
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
Tranman79 said:
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
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Unfortunately, i don't have any free sms service :/
VOODOOS!L said:
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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It doesn't support IMAP IDLE - see my related articles
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
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no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
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Hi, very interesting article !
Thanks for the link.
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
I'll back to you when i'll get more information.
Kayser said:
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
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Anything new on this?
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Anything new on this?
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vgsmail is now Emansio:
http://www.emansio.com
and in my testing it still (version 20070916143800) seems unreliable and buggy on my Kaiser (WM6). Great idea, I wish the darn task manager icon could be removed, and I wish it worked properly. Price is high in USD with the current exchange rates, but I might be able to stomach the basic license if it worked....
Richard
Hi there everyone
I have this issue setting up my Leo for the direct push.
The good news is ,I did setup the hotmail account as well the outlook for the "as it arrive " for the direct push and I found it that amazingly the hotmail arrive to my phone like in a fraction of a second "super fast" and that the outlook take a little while " I'm not complaining as long as it arrive" the only thing that it only push e-mails when I'm on the Wi-Fi connection.
However, when I try switching off the Wi-Fi no Push?!...... So what went wrong?, any ides, or anyone have better solution. Though when I do "physically" ActiveSync the outlook do receive the new e-mails. It looks like the phone doesn't sense the new e-mail.
Other thing dose anyone know how to receive push e-mails as well from Gmail and yahoo??
Thanks a lot
any help plz guys
I am interested in this too, my Gmail syncs fine. But Hotmail only works if i manually sync it when on 3G. It's greyed out in the email accounts section so i can't alter the settings.
The email setup is a bit of a black art to me on here. Maybe i should read the 310 page PDF manual.
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I am interested in this too, my Gmail syncs fine. But Hotmail only works if i manually sync it when on 3G. It's greyed out in the email accounts section so i can't alter the settings.
The email setup is a bit of a black art to me on here. Maybe i should read the 310 page PDF manual.
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The thing that I found a round-over solution for it by using a 3rd part application "Seven or emozeMail" to add ur e-mail account and it will do the trick for you!
However, this is not a really push serve from WM, I was looking for something without the use of the 3rd party app. Again, the hotmail as well the outlook do push when it is only on Wi-Fi!!! But not in the SIM net connection
By the way how did you set ur Gmail to act as push e-mail?
Best luck
no answer!!!
up...up...up i really need helop!!!
Stupid question - you do have Direct Push on under comm manager I guess?
have you tried turning it off rebooting then back on again
Have you tried performing the intial setup/sync over 3G and not Wifi?
I just set mine up using 3G and did nothing special and it syncs using 3G fine from Hotmail.
I didn't do anything special, so can't tell you how to magically sort it. Sorry.
waynepyrah said:
Stupid question - you do have Direct Push on under comm manager I guess?
have you tried turning it off rebooting then back on again
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no need to be sassy about it !
However, did that befor didn't help at all
profahmad said:
Have you tried performing the intial setup/sync over 3G and not Wifi?
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hummm...never tried this...i will try and come back withthe feedback to you
by the way i did Syn through USB
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Have you tried performing the intial setup/sync over 3G and not Wifi?
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stratplayer said:
I just set mine up using 3G and did nothing special and it syncs using 3G fine from Hotmail.
I didn't do anything special, so can't tell you how to magically sort it. Sorry.
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i did try what you guys suggeste ...and it look like that did work!
but another issue came out....the phone when it connecte through the SIM net connetcion ...it never turn off...and even when i try to turne it off manually ..it comes back to re-connect ...it keep doing this till i kill the connection with NoData app...any suggestion?
osash2000 said:
i did try what you guys suggeste ...and it look like that did work!
but another issue came out....the phone when it connecte through the SIM net connetcion ...it never turn off...and even when i try to turne it off manually ..it comes back to re-connect ...it keep doing this till i kill the connection with NoData app...any suggestion?
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If you want 'push' e-mail then it'll have to maintain a connection - either 3G or Wifi. It won't connect when an e-mail is received then disconnect once it's downloaded, it requires a constant connection for the device to receive the e-mail immediately
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If you want 'push' e-mail then it'll have to maintain a connection - either 3G or Wifi. It won't connect when an e-mail is received then disconnect once it's downloaded, it requires a constant connection for the device to receive the e-mail immediately
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I understand form what u said that I need to be connected all the time!
That I will be very costly …it looks like if I put the sync on scheduled connection would be better. Any ideas how some1 can came this thing!?
thankx again for ur help
osash2000 said:
That I will be very costly …it looks like if I put the sync on scheduled connection would be better. Any ideas how some1 can came this thing!?
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It's best not to use push e-mail unless you have an unlimited data plan! I'm not sure what you're asking: do you want to know how to set up an sync schedule? In the Windows Live options you can specify a 'sync sechdule' frequency, anywhere from every 15 minutes to four hours. You can do the same for an exchange/activesync account.
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It's best not to use push e-mail unless you have an unlimited data plan! I'm not sure what you're asking: do you want to know how to set up an sync schedule? In the Windows Live options you can specify a 'sync sechdule' frequency, anywhere from every 15 minutes to four hours. You can do the same for an exchange/activesync account.
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thankx alot for ur help. what i was trying to say that when i compare better the two methods ( the Data connection Vs Sechdule one) for me the data connection will be very costly !..what i was thinking of that if there is like a way to disconnecte the Data after it have pushed the e-mail
Actually, push won't increase your data usage. it may well decrease it.
Good point actually, just being connected won't cost anything without data transfer. Cheaper than repeatedly refreshing your inbox.
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Good point actually, just being connected won't cost anything without data transfer. Cheaper than repeatedly refreshing your inbox.
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letme get this right...if my LEO Data onnection (e.g 3G) it will cost me NOTHING till there is actually data exchange!
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letme get this right...if my LEO Data onnection (e.g 3G) it will cost me NOTHING till there is actually data exchange!
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It should be so, that's why it's usually charged by the megabyte.
ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
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ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
There you are: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
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Completely wrong.
kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
I'm asking that because, when I put the settings on send and receive every 5 minutes, it appears as if the connection stays on after the first send and receive ( for instance, I check pxInternet and it has been connected for 40min ) and yeah, if that were to be the case, why not use push.
thx for the help so far, really, great and to the point.
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so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
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Yes of course, otherwise the server would have no way to tell the phone there's something new for it. If you close the data connection in the connection manager it will warn you this also deactivates push.
I've found the idle data usage and battery drain is minimal (at least on 3G). Push on for one night drained 8% battery, which is pretty much the same as without it (~6%). Data usage was under 100kB, and I received 2 mails during the night. Makes great savings, as doing a send/receive on my IMAP account easily uses around 200kB, which would happen every 5 mins or whatever is set for automatic checking, and by extension less traffic = less battery usage...
EDGE might use more battery as there are more keepalive signals.
I agree with Kilrah, I have my calendar, contact and email all synced through google and i don't notice any obvious battery drain compared to when push is turned off.
I use ActiveSync to sync my Gmail account and the push works fine.
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kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
PUSH mail is avalaible on GMail with HD2. Look here : http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
can you synch/push more than 1 gmail account with this method?
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
In activesync, menu -> scheduling.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
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ActiveSync > Menu > Schedule. And just set Off-peak times to Manually so you won't be disturbed when sleeping
At the bottom click on: "Adjust peak times to fit your schedule"
Sleep well
Thanks Guys!
I have set that up to push my main Gmail account and am using Gudusoft email scheduler to check the other one every 30mins.
Let's see how will it works now!
Sync issues
Anyone having any issues sync'ing with calender.
For some reason the only way I can sync at all is with that one disabled.
Currently I'm only using push with email and contacts only since the other won't work.
Can't believe I didn't know that google offered this service now...yes I just found out today reading this forum...
Been waiting too long for this...
Hello, I have some problems with gmail...
When HD2 turns off (standby), it doesn't sync my emails (haven't tried contacts or calendar yet). When I go to activesync to check what happened there are 2 possibilities:
1) If I am home (wifi always on even in standby mode) I get an error (0x80004004). Btw even with wifi on it still keeps the data connection on (?!?!?)
2) If wifi is off it starts syncing when I open activesync.
Any help would be appreciated
EDIT: Seems like there is no problem when wifi is off after all. I guess having wifi always enabled is a problem because it automatically disables 3g...
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
backlashsid said:
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
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Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
sumflipnol said:
Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
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first try sending a test mail from ur gmail a/c to yourself and if it doesnt work try adding '1" in front of your number ! hope it works for you too...