Herald: Is it as good as it looks? - Wing, P4350 General

Hello Everyone with a Herald,
My JasJar just died (RIP) and i'm looking for something to replace it (and possibly my Ubiquio 501)...
I love the look of the Herald and it's slim form factor (but still with a great size keyboard). The OMAP 850 seems to be quite snappy too...?
I also think it might sit quite nicely between my old JasJar and the Ubiquio 501 that i have. I have tended to carry them both around most of the time...
But i have just one question... (and probably others out there would like to know the same).
Are you happy with it?
Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

That good eh?

I have a treo 750v which i think is the best phone ever built. My gf bought me a Hearld for Christmas. I've used it 3 times as my main phone. While it is a great phone size wise it's really nice, the kb is roomy and has a great feel to it. The screen is just breath taking. It's a GREAT upgrade to the wizard, if you don;t need 3G then it's probably the best PPC out there with a big screen and wifi. To me it's the second best PPC out there compared to my treo. Hope this helps? Let me know if you have any questions.
P.S. the soft touch paint is really nice also. The only downside to the phone is it's weight, it's pretty heavy. 174g compared to my treo which is 154, and my P990 which is 150g

Wow, you have a lot of devices!
Thanks for the tips... Bizarrely, my Universal has just resurrected itself, so will keep on with it for the time being... was seriously tempted with the Herald though, it's really nice! As you say, the black paint finish is amazing!

Dont know mine just turned up in the post now, dont know how good it is but it looks damm fine!

I have recently bought a new Herald, since my Prophet has passed over (RIP) and my wife wouldn't land me hers.
I had to take a decision in a few minutes: I had both a TyTN and a P4350 on my hands... I went for the latter.
PROS:
Keyboard. No other device compares to the Herald's keyboard. In terms of touch and opening mechanism.
The form factor is pretty close to the Prophet's. It's just a little bit thinner, but a little bit longer... you wouldn't notice the difference anyway.
Screen luminosity is tremendous: you can read it even under the sunlight.
Battery lasts long enough to forget you have to recharge it, from time to time.
AKU 3.2 put a new life into this device. I'm not using OmapClock anymore... To my experience, only Skype still suffer from CPU slowness.
With that black finishing, the 4350 is... beautiful. Simply.
CONS:
Mini USB and Headphones share the same plug. Thus either you charge it or you listen to your music. So bad.
It's a little bit heavier than the Prophet, but still below 180gr.
MicroSD. To me that is the real shame. I have a 4GB SD that has now became useless. Also the cost is higher: ~30EUR for a 1GB MicroSD vs ~19 for a 1GB SD.
My 2 cents.

I've had my P4350 for the past week and I love it. My previous PPC edition was a Jam, and the P4350 seems smaller. The keyboard is great and the operating system seems a lot faster than the Jam, despite having half the clock speed. The D-Pad is fantastic for one-handed use.
I got mine from egadgetdepot and I highly recommend them. They shipped it same day and threw in an additional Charger, Car Charger and a decent screen protector.

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Ny regrets?

I am about to order MDA JAM myself and wondering if I am doing the right thing. I currently own XDA 2 imate, which I am trying to sell right now with no apparent luck. New JAM cost about 518 Euro's. 64 megs of RAM...
It's small, nice looking and what I've heard, very stable and very well build. But I still can't justify this upgade...
Please, point a lost soul to the right direction
Is size a major issue for you right now? Do you get alot of strange looks from holding the very PDA-like XDA2 to your ear?
If size is enough of a justification to you, then go for it. Otherwise, you're getting a unit with pretty much the same capabilities. Yes, there is also a 1.3 megapixel camera, but the quality of the pics don't look any better than that of the pics taken with the XDA2.
Go for it !
Hi
I had similar concerns when I considered the upgrade, but I have absolutely no regrets now. I have a Pocket PC that is so unobtrusive, I feel so much better. If you travel a lot or move about a lot, keeping track of various things does turn out to be a bother, particularly if you have the rather large xda with you. I feel like I've been freed, somehow.
Just a feeling, but worth the upgrade. BTW, I got a good price for my XDA2 hence the upgrade.
Sands
No regrets here. It's a feather-weight and feels tons smaller compared to my old XDA...
I doubt you will have any regrets either! Just fetch the most possible for your XDA2...
Kai920 said:
No regrets here. It's a feather-weight and feels tons smaller compared to my old XDA...
I doubt you will have any regrets either! Just fetch the most possible for your XDA2...
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Thanks
Already sold my XDA 2
It's a nice little unit. Seems pretty solidly built, and I've only had one crash so far when I was trying to run a game.
However, there are definitely downsides. I just switched from a SE Z600 to the Magician, and for one thing the bluetooth is not as stable as the SE. I transfered about 200 contacts yesterday, and the Magician completely stopped receiving about three or four times. I had to turn it off and then back on again to get it working.
The second shortcoming is the phone sound quality. Seriously, this is a major issue that has been discussed on almost all forums dealing with the Magician. It sounds horrible compared to the Z600. We can only hope this will be adressed in a future software upgrade.
Thirdly, the battery could last a little longer. I get about a day and a night's usage out of it before the thing runs dry. Then again, I am a heavy user. My trusty old Z600 lasted about 72 hours before I switched.
Finally, the camera is a massive waste of space on the device. The pictures are dark, grainy, very blurry and almost completly lack color. The only sensible thing to do is to reprogram the camera button to do something useful, and forget that there even is a camera.
Those are my major criticisms towards the Magician. Overall, it is a pretty sweet device that I would definitely recommend to anyone wanting to buy a smartphone.
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This sounds insane!!!!! :roll:
Are you trying to compare a powerful smartphone to a Z600 in terms of battery life??? Jam is one of the most impressive pocketpc phones in terms of battery life!!!
Anyway as for the stability problems I guess we have to wait till they iron all the ROM problems and that is the case with most SE or Nokia phones too! And if you think how much more complex is a pocketpc phone then you can understand that its still too early.
What I have to say is that the English T-Mobile ROM is by far the most stable ROM compared to iMate's and Qtek's ROMS. I also never had any problems with the sound quality and it seems the sound problems are not there in T-Mobile's phones. I guess its a fawlty hardware component in imate's and Qtek's banch of phones! Then again only time will tell if its a software or a hardware problem after all.
As for the camera its really bad at the moment but I guess its a software problem and not just low quality lens! Other people with good knowledge of photoshop filters are saying that the pics are ok but the auto settings of the camera's software are crappy.
Katsj, I noticed your preference for the t-mob rom. Is it available and can I put it on an i-mate device? Thanks, A.
I agree that comparing a smartphone with a 400 MHz processor to the Z600 is slightly unfair, but that doesn't mean I am perfectly happy with the battery life of the Magician.
It is decent, since I can go for more than a day without recharging, and I might be able to squeeze some more out by shutting of Bluetooth and lowering the screen brightness.
As for the sound there appears to be two unrelated problems, one of them having to do with poorly constructed legs for the speaker, the other being poor speaker software. I seem to be suffering from the latter.
I have seen the photos that some people claim to be decent after improving them in Photoshop. I am far from impressed. Then again, I have yet to see a camera that produces good quality photos.
Releasing a device with inferior firmware seems like poor business practice to me. I know it has become quite commonplace, but it's still a nuisance. Additionally, as this is not the first Pocket PC Phone from HTC, one would think that they would have ironed out the major faults
My bottom line is: The Magician is far from perfect, but it's a neat and sweet little device. Prior to it I would have never considered buying a Pocket PC phone.
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Katsj, I noticed your preference for the t-mob rom. Is it available and can I put it on an i-mate device? Thanks, A.
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Of course you can! You have to follow my instructions! You will need an SD card 128MB or bigger and a card reader! But remember flashing your phone with T-Mobile's ROM and then getting it to a service for any reason with a different provider's ROM will void your warranty! I would recommend you should wait for a newer iMate ROM where they will iron the bugs so you ll be fine without loosing your warranty.
I was the one that fixed a friend's iMate JAM speaker and as far as I understood the problem in iMate JAM is most probably both hardware and software! If I were to buy an iMate JAM I would wait till they fix all those problems in their production line first and I would make sure I would get a JAM not from the first ones! I am so happy I bought a T-Mobile MDA Compact and not an iMate JAM.
As for the camera YES they should use a better camera. Sometimes I think they only got a 0.3MPixel in JAM and they use an interpolation routine that makes it look like a 1.3MPixel one only in resolution! In my opinion HTC has to think of a CCD camera and not a CMOS in the next models! SonyEricsson S700 is a very good example of a nice cameraphone.
I love my MDA Compact and at the moment there is no other gadget that would keep more happy than it! :wink:
To get better results from the camera, make sure that the sharpness is around 10. The default 5 is horrible and was fixed in some imate extended ROM version.
Regarding colours, make sure you adjust the brightness and contrast. Avoid the default settings, they're horrible. When playing with the brightness or contrast, focus on something red in a light background. The red will help you balance the contrast while the light background will help you balance the brightness.
Changing the above settings will give you some VERY DECENT results for a camera phone. Certainly better than most Nokia and SE phones. Maybe not as good as Sharp's though! :wink:

Where to go after Hermes?

I've been happy with my Vario 2 this last year, but my upgrade is coming up at the end of August.
Problem is, where to go next? For all the Hermes' faults (average battery life, the inherent flaws of WinMo) there really isn't a big leap forward out there as far as I can see. Considered the Vario 4, iPhone 3G, Omnia, X1, even the n96 but nothing has really grabbed me.
The Touch Pro / Vario 4 has an improved display, but that seems about it - and I'll lose all the buttons. Similarly the Xperia (if it ever surfaces). Underrated things, buttons - oh, touchscreens are all fine, but I'd hate to rely on just that. Every single button on my Vario is programmed and regularly used.
Seriously thinking of holding off for a while. Wondering what other folks' thoughts on Life After Hermes is.
Well, so much of that decision is personal preference. Just a quick thought though - If your Hermes is set up sweetly and does not have any of the screen issues and need for soft resets on a regular basis then in a sense why change.
Personally I find my Kaiser TyTn II achieves little more than my Hermes except in the memory department (lots better) and in the reliability department (never crashes or needs soft resets). And although there are those that say the Kaiser is slow, believe me when you change from Hermes to Kaiser you feel the increase in speed. If you are an avid video watcher then TyTn II probably not for you, although I find it performs identically to my Hermes in that regard.
However as you have the chance to skip a generation, then yes the Touch Pro should offer yet another small progression - except it's too soon to identify any problems that one may have. (Do you know, I have really gotten used to the Tilting screen on the Kaiser - can't imagine going back to the flat slide - now touch pro with tilt, that would be nice if only from a very practical point of view.
Mike
I've only just recently got a Hermes lol but have been enjoying it so much that I already have been giving thought to this same question. The only answer I've come up with so far is just to keep using the Hermes. If and when it dies I'll look at what else there is but at this stage I imagine I'll just buy another Hermes, they are getting better value all the time as they are getting cheaper.
I was also contemplating my next device, after the iPhone 3G announcement I thought my decision was made. The pricing was just right, but I found out that you had to take a 24/36 month contract that was the end of that. I am going to keep my phone until a third Hermes generation comes out as I feel the major push to the TyTn II would be the GPS, but I don't really need a GPS at the moment.
If there's any new phone without camera, please tell me (no, not Nokia E51). My 8500 is getting a bit old
If you can wait a couple of months then the Touch Pro is the way to go.
googles android platform
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I am going to keep my phone until a third Hermes generation comes out as I feel the major push to the TyTn II would be the GPS, but I don't really need a GPS at the moment.
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I'm also waiting on a TyTn III someday!
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I'm also waiting on a TyTn III someday!
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I'm waiting to see what T-Mo US does with a WinMo device that'll play nice with their AWS roll-out.
It's sort of a shame that they had no choice but to go the 1700/2100 route....the Xperia was mentioned as being 1700 friendly, but I've seen different reports that says, uh, no 1700 for you!
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If you can wait a couple of months then the Touch Pro is the way to go.
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That's my point though. It's not. Better res, FM Radio, apart from that the Kaiser does it all and has all the buttons too.
I want a phone that keeps all the features I currently have and adds to them, not one that throws some of the best away.
Right now if I had to upgrade this year, it would be to the Vario 4. But it's not the leap forward I'd hoped for after 18 months of the Hermes.

comparison between diamond and diamond2

first of all, sorry if i'm posting something that has been discussed before. the search function didn't prop anything useful, and as you can see i am a user of this forum.
if this has already been discussed, please give me a link of the topic.
my obvious question is if it is worth it to buy the diamond2 instead of putting its software on the original diamond. besides that, how is the better hardware working ? especially the gps chip ? same problems ?
any thoughts are much appreciated. thanks
What can I say... Diamond 2 is better on every aspect compared to the Diamond. I still got my old Diamond and I just started it up and it felt so bad using it if I compare to the D2.
To sum up everything: D2 is BETTER.
it would be strange to be otherwise. I mean, it's Diamond 2 sooo, tehnically, it comes as an upgrade. It would be strange to be a worse phone. Diamond 2 comes with some solutions to problems in D1.
The GPS is okay, after you have downloaded quickGPS, the connection is within seconds (4-5). I'd use iGo with GPS, it's great. Audio is good, many features. Any more questions? Cheers!!!
I had the Diamond for some days and I hated it. The screen is to small for such a device for my POW. The design is also ugly compared to TD2 (my pow again). I actually only got the TD2 because it was cheap and my plan was to sell it again. But I ended up keeping it. I think it's a great phone but battery life could be better.. GPS is working flawlessly tomtom with no probs what so ever
I used the Diamond for over a year.. it was a great phone however it always felt slightly slow, now on the diamond 2 (which i have now) the specs are very similar however the phone feels much much better!
On the diamond I was flashing roms every couple of days, never satisfied.
On the diamond 2 im sitting on the stock rom!!! ..go figure! Fantastic phone.
There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
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There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
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I have not experienced any dust under my screen yet.
u can find pretty nice overview of both over here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2368&idPhone2=2689
btw d2 ownz))im just so happy for it...
Diamond 2 is much better than Diamond in every aspect. But HTC has announced lots of new phones, Touch Pro 2, HD 2. These are all the nice device comparing with Diamond 2. And the HTC LEO will be announced soon. I believe it'll be a great device.
HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
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HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
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Yeah, HTC announces phones larger and larger. At first HD is large enough and a little bit larger for porket. Now they announced LEO.....Anyway if the phone is really top device, the size doesn't matter.
I switched from the diamond to the diamond2, and until now i regret it!
Maybe technically the d2's pecs are far more better than the original, but i've had a lot of problems with it. Freezes a lot of times (T-mobile stock rom), and the promised improved battery life is still bad (charge every 3 days, with normal use).
The worst part are the look and feel of the td2. Compared to the original i now have a brick in my pocket, the original was so much slimmer than this one! The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-moile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
thanks for the replies guys. especially yours hellboy1970. it was clear that the d2 would be better than the d1 in the usual aspects - hardware, battery life, minor fixes, etc. but what i was asking was if it is actually worth it switching .. i mean, the differences between a customized diamond with all the apps and roms and all that and a, so far, stock d2.
of course the d2 will eventually receive more interest than the d1, and i'll switch too by that time, but right now, money wise and all that.
anyway, thanks. i'm thinking of keeping my d1 until d2 lowers its price a bit
Diamond 1 it's a joke compared to D2...
I just flashed the D2 ROM (AZTOR) to my D1 and i'm really fascinated about what a software can do with a device. First i had O2 SW, then some custom ROMs, then original HTC and now this D2 Rom. It's ingenious.
I see the only real disadvantage of the D1 in the "small" display.
I don't care about my GPS taking 3 mins to find a satellite - i usually know at least the direction where i want to go.
So in my eyes, the D2 is a good and certainly better device, but if you own a D1 it's just not worth switching.
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The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-mobile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
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No problem. With frequent use, I am sure it will break off and the T-Mobile will be just like the HTC

HD2 (leo) or TD2 (Topaz)? I need your opinon!

My Touch Pro is nearing it's 1.5 year birthday, and although it has served me well I feel it it is time to retire it. I am in the market for a new phone, and two phones have caught my eye. I wanted to get the opinon of current TD2 owners and see what you thought on the matter
Now I am fully aware people would be sat there saying "why would you get the TD2 over the HD2?!", but the TD2 has a few redeaming features that make me think it would like it better. For my money, the TD2 has the following reedeaming features:
Sits better in palm (due to smaller form factor)
Looks much better
£200 cheaper (!)
Bigger battery
It also shares many features, like the ability to run WinMo 6.5 and HTC Sense, same resolution, 5mp camera, SD slot... e.t.c.
I know the HD2 has a much faster 1GHz processor, and the huge screen would be great for GPS. but I am not sure it would be comfertable to use (I think my iPod touch is quite large). That said the screen would be alot nicer to use, and the HD2 will probably run WinMo7 when it finally surfaces (since I will have the phone for at least 12 months, probably 18)...
You can see why I'm stuck right?
What would you do? If you had the oppertunity, would stay with what you have, or upgrade to the latest and greatest?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the TD2 battery 1100 mAh while the HD2 is 1350?
EDIT: To give my opinion, I'm totally satisfied with my TD2 at the moment but I wouldn't mind getting the HD2 instead of it. I watch ALOT of movies on my TD2 and the screen is really good (16:9 in CorePlayer looks beautiful, widescreen ftw!). But I just bought it so I will have to wait some months and see what's coming.
ooops... I actually wanted to vote for the Leo - sorry
Take the HD2 - it has the dual LED flash, 3.5mm headphone jack and capacitive touchscreen - and, most importantly, it's incredibly fast!
I would say get neither if you plan on having them for 12months+
But really I love My TD2. Had it since release day in April. So like 6 months now. If it weren't for the price I'd get an HD2. But then again it's nearly the same phone I have minus the Flash, Big Screen, and SnapDragon. I upgraded from a touch and skipped out on the Original Diamond. And thank god I did, cause a few months later the announcement of the TD2 came.
Wait till Feb for the World Mobile Congress (or Mobile World Congress) I'm sure there will be smaller sized devices than the HD2 that have the same specs. I mean look what happend last year. The HD was announced then along cam the TD2 which is the same yet different. Plus the TD2 was like $200 USD less.
If you can wait wait. If not get the TD2. It looks nicer. and say in6 Months when the D3 is out you can trade up. Cut that 12month wait in half.
I like the HD2.. it's looks good and has a nice big capacitive screen..
If i didn't have the TD2 i would buy the HD2.
But the TD2 is a nice phone, not too big and it's fast enough for me.
The thinks i hate off the TD2:
Bad camera and no flash
My wifi sucks (broken) and HTC won't repair it They tried to repair it 2 times but they failed
But i can't say what phone you should buy, it depends on what you want to do with it..
Fast, big screen, camera flash, good for movies? then go for the HD2
not too big, easy too use with one thumb, cool design? then go for the TD2
I was goign to get the HD1 over the TD2, but as soon as i held the TD2, i love it. Feels better in my hand than somthign the size of an ipod touch.
Go to the store and try both out. You can't beat first-hand experience. Personally, I think the HD2 is too big to carry in your pocket and uncomfortable to use with one hand. HD was already just short of too big for me.
I really hope HTC puts these snapdragons into something smaller than the HD2 eventually. I'd love something the size of TD2 yet with bigger screen. Who decided to sacrifice screen estate to have a frickin' "zoombar" anyway?
I was at a carphone warehouse earlier, and the TD2 dos feel really nice sitting in the hand. How does HTC sense perform on the older hardware?
The leo will be the first of the snapdragon processors things will only get better from there. I'd save the money and go with the TD2/TP2
thsnx for the opinions...very helpful......I am in the same predicament...I've been in the market for a phone for almost a 9 months. I was gonna settle on the TD2, then came the Magic, then the Hero, and I fell out of love with the magic pretty fast. I still like the Hero but Im not sure about the NO BT transfer and poor cam. I am not sure about Android either. But I handled the Hero @ a HTC Store and I have to say that I was impressed by the build quality....the fone is firm..feels like luxury. (at least the brown one)
The Leo will not be in my price range once it comes out. I could buy a whole new laptop once the price it.
Anyways.....I like the HD2..Seems like the safe choice now...The moto STD is making want to be a bit more patient....need to get a phone now...cant wait till the mobile congress....So many choices ...what to do.... Hero, TD2,HD2 ??,STD by Moto,...uhm.....a little still after all......
I have the Topaz running a Leo based ROM (currently from Dutty) and it (Topaz) is an awesome phone, but the Leo has got me drooling- I gotta have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
as much as i would love the 1ghz cpu of the leo it just too big for me, thus i vote topaz.
Size does matter
Its way too big, i gave up on the TP2 due to its sheer size and bulk, yes the bigger screen was awesome, but back to the TD2, its the best balance.
Thanks for the oversight guys, it's mbeen really helpful. I will take a look at the HD2, but I think I will end up with a TD2 and get a new phone 10 months down the line. The hero is pretty nice, but I'm worried the novelty of android will wear off. I does feel really good in the hand, and the build quality is damn good.
Decisions, decisions...
Leo is very big in size, small battery, no 3g calling.
the only thing it has better then the TD2 is the processor.
i agree about the leo being to big. i just got the htc pure yesterday and starting to really love it. feels great in hand. its taking a little to get used to it coming from the fuze. the leo is just the first step. there will be more like it im pretty sure in the future. hopefully with a smaller screen.
Just buy your TD2 with a 1-year contract, by end of next year there will likely be a few snapdragon based phones to choose from. I'm sure you'll have different screen sizes to choose from at that point. Personally I would have gone that way but my company buys my phone so I got stuck with a 2 year on my new Imagio.

[Q] would you buy it again

HI!
Trying to decide which phone to get, narrowed between the optimus 7 and the motorola defy. The motorola has earpiece problems, and the one I was leaning to the optimus 7 has shut off problems. I'm a phone in the pocket kind of guy and don't want problems, how many of you are having no problems vs those that have them? Would you buy this phone again? Any other issues I should be aware of? I mainly want it for a phone 1st, though I would be interested in mp3 comments. All comments appreciated, thanks for your time. Dave
I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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Just for the record, I have never seen my optimus 7 randomly shutdown. So it may be an isolated issue.
Edit: I wanted to add that I would choose a WP7 device over just about any Android device 100% of the time.
i love my optimus 7. great phone. and never shuts down randomly. only when batery is 0%.
Absolutly,
I have a nook color that I put CM7 on, and while I enjoy it and use it every and have had it for a lot longer than my phone, I find myself trying to do things that I can do on my phone that just don't .... I don't know how to say it other than just doesn't work right.
Even in the browser, I still like the stock IE over the Dolphin HD on my nook.
The only thing I might change in my next phone is to get the Titan, I would like a bigger screen (personal preferance), but the LG has been great so far. Really like the fact that it has gorillia glass and I don't need a screen protector and that it holds together and looks brand new even though I drop it all the darn time.
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I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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Never happened to me. My phone rebooted itself some time, but thats gone with mango
optimus 7 is average phone. its heavy, non standard-size (you won't find any cover that fits), those analogic buttons I don't like, and no standard internal-SD.
on the good side it has gorilla glass, 16GB.
I think, its faster than an HTC trophy and the metro interface runs much smoother.
I won't buy a WP7 any more, I only bought it because it was very cheap, 200€ instead of 450€
Yip, never had any problems with mine. I bought 2 for my parents for christmas presents!
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optimus 7 is average phone. its heavy, non standard-size (you won't find any cover that fits), those analogic buttons I don't like, and no standard internal-SD.
on the good side it has gorilla glass, 16GB.
I think, its faster than an HTC trophy and the metro interface runs much smoother.
I won't buy a WP7 any more, I only bought it because it was very cheap, 200€ instead of 450€
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I agree that the phone is average, by smartphone spec standards, but like you said its faster than many comparable devices, and WP7 makes it just about faster than any Android device. Heavy - yes. As to the SD storage, swamping cards is not truly supported by WP7. I understand the analog buttons are a personal preference, but I like not having to worry about accidental key touches and swipes taking me out of an application with sensitive capacitive buttons.
I forgot to say that the Optimus 7 speaker has one of the worst speakers I ever faced in a mobile phone...
For the price I paid (£120) I guess I would.
Only real negatives are the visual quality of the screen, camera isn't up to much and speaker is kinda crap.
Windows Phone yes, LG no.
In Italy is sold for 149€... I paid 250 but i have no regrets. The only cons for me is the battery, a little bit under the others wp7.
In a year i have saw only three or four random resets. Not a huge problem if you know the boot time: 20 secs.
16GB memory, very nice physical buttons, with the possiblity that there is a Wolfson inside it (Wolfson has a deal with LG to supply audio codec processors for the Optimus phones, not sure if the Optimus 7 has it). Plenty to like about it.
Thanks to everyone who replied, the feedback is much appreciated. I am now leaning towards the defy, mainly 'cause I think it's size and weight will make it a better pocket phone. Thanks again, Dave
If this discussion is still open, I would like to add my voice.
Personally I would never buy this phone again.
WP7 is good looking OS, but has many disadvantages now. It is very new and does not have many functions as typical smartphone have, like full bluetooth support.
LG phone has nice design, but have also some issues, like battery life time.
Only Windows Mobile, MAMEMO and maybe Symbian have full Bluetooth stacks unfortunately. It seems full Bluetooth never really made it into the modern smartphone OS's. That being said I am sure that the flexibility of Android allows for additions to the stack, but they still don't support all the protocols that smartphones of the past had.
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I quite like the LG as it holds its own against many of the v1 WP7 phones, and has better storage and battery life than many. I prefer the real buttons too, and no probably with the screen apart from it being too bright to read in bed. You can get Gel covers for it which make it a nice sturdy phone for taking out and about thats capable of taking a knock or two. And the low 2nd hand price because it isn't shiny-shiny enough for the fashionistas or phone thieves means its great value for money. The Jil Sanders version with a slightly tweaked case (more plastic but less weight, USB flap easier to open, less garish camera surround) is currently being sold off half price at Expansys so continues that value theme.
Just wanted to add in, i'm a long time windows 6/6.1 user, and i'd buy another of these in a heartbeat.
infact I was tempted to buy that Jill Sanders version for my g/f, was on offer for £149 delivered but i forget what site.
I don't get the negative issues, Initially I wasn't too impressed but after 2 weeks i'd never go back to winmo 6.1, I personally dislike andriod, to slow and clumsy feeling for me. iOS just doesn't make sense to me either.
For those who say the camera is bad, its a phone, the outdoor shots i've taken are pretty amazing, the inside not so great, which is true of all digital cameras i've ever used, and the fact its got a flash that can be used like a torch as its not a xeon is a big plus for me.
Compared to a friends HTC Mozart (which cost twice the price) to me the Pro's of the the LG phone, longer battery life, nicer physical size, physical buttons (I know its user preference, but after 3 months his buttons have stopped responding, personally i've always had trouble at some point with touch buttons, but thats me being picky!) 16gb, seriously, do you need more than 16gb on a phone? this was the real seller for me, I have 10gb free space with quite a few apps including the 2gb+ navigon satnav.
Sure you can't upgrade the storage, but compared to most which have 8gb i'd say its pretty fair.
I'm also loving the wifi internet sharing, coming from previous winmo devices i've always found the connection just drops out randomly, but with this stays rock solid for hours. (not internet in work other than phone!)
My biggest issue with the phone is the battery, it seems no matter what features you turn off it seems to last the same with the features turned on, i'm not sure if this is a wp7 issue or a handset issue
WP7 for Sure
I would stick with WP7 for sure... I would even buy the LG E900h again compared to the options here in Canada. Samsung Focus, LG Optimus 7, HTC Surround

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