Where to go after Hermes? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I've been happy with my Vario 2 this last year, but my upgrade is coming up at the end of August.
Problem is, where to go next? For all the Hermes' faults (average battery life, the inherent flaws of WinMo) there really isn't a big leap forward out there as far as I can see. Considered the Vario 4, iPhone 3G, Omnia, X1, even the n96 but nothing has really grabbed me.
The Touch Pro / Vario 4 has an improved display, but that seems about it - and I'll lose all the buttons. Similarly the Xperia (if it ever surfaces). Underrated things, buttons - oh, touchscreens are all fine, but I'd hate to rely on just that. Every single button on my Vario is programmed and regularly used.
Seriously thinking of holding off for a while. Wondering what other folks' thoughts on Life After Hermes is.

Well, so much of that decision is personal preference. Just a quick thought though - If your Hermes is set up sweetly and does not have any of the screen issues and need for soft resets on a regular basis then in a sense why change.
Personally I find my Kaiser TyTn II achieves little more than my Hermes except in the memory department (lots better) and in the reliability department (never crashes or needs soft resets). And although there are those that say the Kaiser is slow, believe me when you change from Hermes to Kaiser you feel the increase in speed. If you are an avid video watcher then TyTn II probably not for you, although I find it performs identically to my Hermes in that regard.
However as you have the chance to skip a generation, then yes the Touch Pro should offer yet another small progression - except it's too soon to identify any problems that one may have. (Do you know, I have really gotten used to the Tilting screen on the Kaiser - can't imagine going back to the flat slide - now touch pro with tilt, that would be nice if only from a very practical point of view.
Mike

I've only just recently got a Hermes lol but have been enjoying it so much that I already have been giving thought to this same question. The only answer I've come up with so far is just to keep using the Hermes. If and when it dies I'll look at what else there is but at this stage I imagine I'll just buy another Hermes, they are getting better value all the time as they are getting cheaper.

I was also contemplating my next device, after the iPhone 3G announcement I thought my decision was made. The pricing was just right, but I found out that you had to take a 24/36 month contract that was the end of that. I am going to keep my phone until a third Hermes generation comes out as I feel the major push to the TyTn II would be the GPS, but I don't really need a GPS at the moment.

If there's any new phone without camera, please tell me (no, not Nokia E51). My 8500 is getting a bit old

If you can wait a couple of months then the Touch Pro is the way to go.

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nqina dlamini said:
I am going to keep my phone until a third Hermes generation comes out as I feel the major push to the TyTn II would be the GPS, but I don't really need a GPS at the moment.
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I'm also waiting on a TyTn III someday!

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I'm also waiting on a TyTn III someday!
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I'm waiting to see what T-Mo US does with a WinMo device that'll play nice with their AWS roll-out.
It's sort of a shame that they had no choice but to go the 1700/2100 route....the Xperia was mentioned as being 1700 friendly, but I've seen different reports that says, uh, no 1700 for you!

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If you can wait a couple of months then the Touch Pro is the way to go.
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That's my point though. It's not. Better res, FM Radio, apart from that the Kaiser does it all and has all the buttons too.
I want a phone that keeps all the features I currently have and adds to them, not one that throws some of the best away.
Right now if I had to upgrade this year, it would be to the Vario 4. But it's not the leap forward I'd hoped for after 18 months of the Hermes.

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Ny regrets?

I am about to order MDA JAM myself and wondering if I am doing the right thing. I currently own XDA 2 imate, which I am trying to sell right now with no apparent luck. New JAM cost about 518 Euro's. 64 megs of RAM...
It's small, nice looking and what I've heard, very stable and very well build. But I still can't justify this upgade...
Please, point a lost soul to the right direction
Is size a major issue for you right now? Do you get alot of strange looks from holding the very PDA-like XDA2 to your ear?
If size is enough of a justification to you, then go for it. Otherwise, you're getting a unit with pretty much the same capabilities. Yes, there is also a 1.3 megapixel camera, but the quality of the pics don't look any better than that of the pics taken with the XDA2.
Go for it !
Hi
I had similar concerns when I considered the upgrade, but I have absolutely no regrets now. I have a Pocket PC that is so unobtrusive, I feel so much better. If you travel a lot or move about a lot, keeping track of various things does turn out to be a bother, particularly if you have the rather large xda with you. I feel like I've been freed, somehow.
Just a feeling, but worth the upgrade. BTW, I got a good price for my XDA2 hence the upgrade.
Sands
No regrets here. It's a feather-weight and feels tons smaller compared to my old XDA...
I doubt you will have any regrets either! Just fetch the most possible for your XDA2...
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No regrets here. It's a feather-weight and feels tons smaller compared to my old XDA...
I doubt you will have any regrets either! Just fetch the most possible for your XDA2...
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Thanks
Already sold my XDA 2
It's a nice little unit. Seems pretty solidly built, and I've only had one crash so far when I was trying to run a game.
However, there are definitely downsides. I just switched from a SE Z600 to the Magician, and for one thing the bluetooth is not as stable as the SE. I transfered about 200 contacts yesterday, and the Magician completely stopped receiving about three or four times. I had to turn it off and then back on again to get it working.
The second shortcoming is the phone sound quality. Seriously, this is a major issue that has been discussed on almost all forums dealing with the Magician. It sounds horrible compared to the Z600. We can only hope this will be adressed in a future software upgrade.
Thirdly, the battery could last a little longer. I get about a day and a night's usage out of it before the thing runs dry. Then again, I am a heavy user. My trusty old Z600 lasted about 72 hours before I switched.
Finally, the camera is a massive waste of space on the device. The pictures are dark, grainy, very blurry and almost completly lack color. The only sensible thing to do is to reprogram the camera button to do something useful, and forget that there even is a camera.
Those are my major criticisms towards the Magician. Overall, it is a pretty sweet device that I would definitely recommend to anyone wanting to buy a smartphone.
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This sounds insane!!!!! :roll:
Are you trying to compare a powerful smartphone to a Z600 in terms of battery life??? Jam is one of the most impressive pocketpc phones in terms of battery life!!!
Anyway as for the stability problems I guess we have to wait till they iron all the ROM problems and that is the case with most SE or Nokia phones too! And if you think how much more complex is a pocketpc phone then you can understand that its still too early.
What I have to say is that the English T-Mobile ROM is by far the most stable ROM compared to iMate's and Qtek's ROMS. I also never had any problems with the sound quality and it seems the sound problems are not there in T-Mobile's phones. I guess its a fawlty hardware component in imate's and Qtek's banch of phones! Then again only time will tell if its a software or a hardware problem after all.
As for the camera its really bad at the moment but I guess its a software problem and not just low quality lens! Other people with good knowledge of photoshop filters are saying that the pics are ok but the auto settings of the camera's software are crappy.
Katsj, I noticed your preference for the t-mob rom. Is it available and can I put it on an i-mate device? Thanks, A.
I agree that comparing a smartphone with a 400 MHz processor to the Z600 is slightly unfair, but that doesn't mean I am perfectly happy with the battery life of the Magician.
It is decent, since I can go for more than a day without recharging, and I might be able to squeeze some more out by shutting of Bluetooth and lowering the screen brightness.
As for the sound there appears to be two unrelated problems, one of them having to do with poorly constructed legs for the speaker, the other being poor speaker software. I seem to be suffering from the latter.
I have seen the photos that some people claim to be decent after improving them in Photoshop. I am far from impressed. Then again, I have yet to see a camera that produces good quality photos.
Releasing a device with inferior firmware seems like poor business practice to me. I know it has become quite commonplace, but it's still a nuisance. Additionally, as this is not the first Pocket PC Phone from HTC, one would think that they would have ironed out the major faults
My bottom line is: The Magician is far from perfect, but it's a neat and sweet little device. Prior to it I would have never considered buying a Pocket PC phone.
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Katsj, I noticed your preference for the t-mob rom. Is it available and can I put it on an i-mate device? Thanks, A.
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Of course you can! You have to follow my instructions! You will need an SD card 128MB or bigger and a card reader! But remember flashing your phone with T-Mobile's ROM and then getting it to a service for any reason with a different provider's ROM will void your warranty! I would recommend you should wait for a newer iMate ROM where they will iron the bugs so you ll be fine without loosing your warranty.
I was the one that fixed a friend's iMate JAM speaker and as far as I understood the problem in iMate JAM is most probably both hardware and software! If I were to buy an iMate JAM I would wait till they fix all those problems in their production line first and I would make sure I would get a JAM not from the first ones! I am so happy I bought a T-Mobile MDA Compact and not an iMate JAM.
As for the camera YES they should use a better camera. Sometimes I think they only got a 0.3MPixel in JAM and they use an interpolation routine that makes it look like a 1.3MPixel one only in resolution! In my opinion HTC has to think of a CCD camera and not a CMOS in the next models! SonyEricsson S700 is a very good example of a nice cameraphone.
I love my MDA Compact and at the moment there is no other gadget that would keep more happy than it! :wink:
To get better results from the camera, make sure that the sharpness is around 10. The default 5 is horrible and was fixed in some imate extended ROM version.
Regarding colours, make sure you adjust the brightness and contrast. Avoid the default settings, they're horrible. When playing with the brightness or contrast, focus on something red in a light background. The red will help you balance the contrast while the light background will help you balance the brightness.
Changing the above settings will give you some VERY DECENT results for a camera phone. Certainly better than most Nokia and SE phones. Maybe not as good as Sharp's though! :wink:

Nokia N95 VS TyTn

Hi,
I thinking about change my TyTN for Nokia N95. Some one knows where I can find a good comparison review between TyTN and Nokia N95?
Worth change my TyTN by a N95?
Can some body post his/her thoughts about this change.
Regards,
Taguapire
bought n95 to replace my tytn and sent it back next day
poor battery
rubbish ram and cpu
nolovelust said:
bought n95 to replace my tytn and sent it back next day
poor battery
rubbish ram and cpu
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What are you using right now?
Regards,
Taguapire.
nolovelust said:
bought n95 to replace my tytn and sent it back next day
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tytn at the moment but urged for a vga phone like toshiba 900 (or was it g900)
I concur. I have both and i think that they are both awesome phones in their own environment. You just cannot compare the 2 with each other. Its like comparing a truck to a car. They each have their plus. I love the size of the N95 and the camera is awesome. especially after the firmware update. And inorder to save battery i turn off the dual mode band and just keep it on gsm. It probably gets you about 2 extra days of battery life. But i also love my 8525. so much stuff i can do with it. So its just up to you and what you like and what your looking to do with it my friend. Good luck.
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I concur. I have both and i think that they are both awesome phones in their own environment. You just cannot compare the 2 with each other. Its like comparing a truck to a car. They each have their plus. I love the size of the N95 and the camera is awesome. especially after the firmware update. And in order to save battery i turn off the dual mode band and just keep it on gsm. It probably gets you about 2 extra days of battery life. But i also love my 8525. so much stuff i can do with it. So its just up to you and what you like and what your looking to do with it my friend. Good luck.
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How much stable is N95? There is any stability issue on Symbian OS used in this phone? What about usability and applications compared with WM6?
This 5 MPX camera can be compared with real consumer cameras @ 5 MPX or it is average camera if you compare it with Dedicated 5 MPX camera?
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Taguapire.
keep the tytn wait for the kaiser
A friend of mine has the N95 and is sending it back, it loses signal, the gps doesnt work, battery life is appalling, sometimes people cant hear him. He is now getting a tytn after using mine.
which one is the truck?
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which one is the truck?
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I guess Hermes
In this day and age I simply don't see myself entering my emails using the number pad.
When will Nokia enter the new millenium and add a frikkin touchscreen?
Thank God his is not HoFo. You would have had all the crazy Nokia and HTC fanboys at eachothers throats.
It really comes down to what your expectations are out of the gadget. Replying emails and the like, work related things. TyTN all the way due to the keyboard. Remember, the N95 is being sold as a media heavy phone, not business. Check the specs.
GPS is not the best but is far from the worst and the battery is anemic. However Hermes doesn't even have GPS so there is a point there. But the battery, is an issue, especially for such a hardware heavy phone. You will notice a lot of people say they can extend the battery life by cutting down usage, well, ironically the phone was made to be used. That is something Nokia has yet to wise up, since it goes for size over function. Just like the N80. Putting anything under 1000mAh on phones like this is just irresponsible.
Anyway, see what you need and then simply match it. Don't get me wrong the N95 is a impressive phone but with a few flaws, just like TyTN. Find which one fits best.
Exactly, everyone has their own flavors. I love both my phones and have had no problems at all with them. Maybe cause i take real good care of them too. The camera on the N95 is comparable to some 5mpx cameras. Clear enough to print. MY battery on the n95 last about 3 days with heavy texting and moderate phone calls placed. I love the symella program that you can get on symbian phones. kind of like wintorrent. Download tons of songs thru the wifi or edge. The lack of 3g for the us is one thing that really kind of bummed me out on this phone. But its all good, And good luck with the purchase.
I see...
Thanks for your replies. I just wanted N95 for GPS and Camera, but both are not top of line in multimedia phones or dedicated hardware.
I guess that I will kept my TyTN.
Regards and thank you very much,
Taguapire.
I've got a hermes and one of the gyus i work with has got an N95.
One of them is a phone with a few computer functions on it and the other is a computer with a few phone functions. Which you want depends on how you will use the phone.
Having had a good play with his N95, I can confirm it is a stunningly good phone - the camera is better than my Sony DSC-P12 and the screen is a joy to behold.
For me though, I can't get over that it's not touch screen - makes it too awkward to use properly.
I'd have one as a second phone and it would give me problems whenever I leave the house while I made my mind up which one to take but...the question is, would I swap my Vario II for it?
Not a chance
taguapire said:
Hi,
I thinking about change my TyTN for Nokia N95. Some one knows where I can find a good comparison review between TyTN and Nokia N95?
Worth change my TyTN by a N95?
Can some body post his/her thoughts about this change.
Regards,
Taguapire
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You are comparing two different kind of devices. TyTn using windows wheather Nokia using Symbian. What you wanted to do with your mobile on the go. It depends on the functions it is offering and your needs. About 5MP camera well it will take the picture that big you can make it wallpaper in your kitchen. I am using camera phones since 3 years now still have 2MP camera phone. But I never use it for photography. Man you can't use it as professional camera. Anyhow I am not professional but whenever I take pictures I use digital camera other than my phone device.
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I've got a hermes and one of the gyus i work with has got an N95.
One of them is a phone with a few computer functions on it and the other is a computer with a few phone functions. Which you want depends on how you will use the phone.
Having had a good play with his N95, I can confirm it is a stunningly good phone - the camera is better than my Sony DSC-P12 and the screen is a joy to behold.
For me though, I can't get over that it's not touch screen - makes it too awkward to use properly.
I'd have one as a second phone and it would give me problems whenever I leave the house while I made my mind up which one to take but...the question is, would I swap my Vario II for it?
Not a chance
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I agree with Lordsmiff.
The Nokia is a phone trying to grow up to become a computer
The Tytn is a computer trying to be a phone - but hey, its doing a better job at it !!
Depends what one wants ! It's your choice !
for me ,cant do without a touch screen.
also read reviews on the camera, n95 vs sony ericsion 3.2Mp cybershot, thge 3.2 beat the 5.0 of the nokia
Hi,
I first had the tytn and I was curious about a symbian cellphone, so I sold my tytn and bought a N95.
I'm a little bit disappointed of symbian. The menu is really slow and it crashes once a day. In general, if you use the phone a little bit you can charge it every day. If you don't use it that much you have to charge it every 2-3 days.
Another problem is the missing touchscreen because it is just comfortable to scroll or tab on the screen, select more than one item, ...
The quallity of the n95 is also not the best, the zero-key was scrooping and you can hear the display while calling someone (but this is not that annoying).
But the camera is really nice, it is not as good as a digital camera but still very good.
So, at the moment I am buying the tytn again and I selling the n95.
km
donsaxena said:
keep the tytn wait for the kaiser
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owyeah owyeah..thats what I will do(A)

Successor for my Wizard?

What would you recommend as my next phone? Been using the Wizard phones for over 2 years now and the only complaints I have are the low battery life (compared to e.g. Nokia 9300i), occasional slow-downs/freezes (for example when opening apps or swithching the screen from diagonal to horizontal) and difficult one-hand operation (frustrating but understandable due to the form factor).
So could there be a HTC phone that would overcome at least some of the above three flaws (mainly the slow-downs as I hate them but also the battery life could be better...)
Suggestions for my next phone? It doesn't have to be the latest model... both my Wizards I bought used and I will probably never buy a brand new phone because there's so many good second-hand ones available these days.
-John
Think it`s good time for Kaiser for you. Of course it`s almost same functionality as Wizard, but with gps integrated. Think that`s battery life may be the same as in Wizard but slowing down will not be problem. Wish to have FM radio onboard...hmm maybe in future it is possible.
Hmmm well i would suggest hermes or kaiser....but....
both my wizard and hermes died of quality issues...(or maybe flashing!!!), so not sure if i would recommend another htc...
iphone might be an option if you are not into cooking or flash junkie like me...LOL

What to do as a US AT&T customer? X1 vs Touch Pro

I have an AT&T account through my work so I'm a bit limited in options. I currently have the AT&T 8525 (Hermes) and was planning to upgrade to the Sony X1 or X1a.
However, it seems that the Touch Pro (Fuse) will shortly be available for arround $300US via AT&T vs the X1 at $675 US from the UK or the X1a at $799 in the near future from Sony (unlocked).
I like the X1/X1a... but is it really work ~$400US extra?
Thoughts?
I've owned the Touch pro under Att (NO 3G in my area) and it was great to have the xperia just seems to be on a whole other level. The keyboard on the touch pro is magnificient and i truly hate the xperia keyboard. Everything else about the xperia is just perfect. I paid like 920 for mine with a 16GB card and if they said it would cost 300 bucks more i would've still bought it.
I believe u can get the fuze right now from att's website. So i guess the choice is yours. I would say get the xperia. No doubt about it
I ran your response by my wife... afraid it didn't pass the wife test :-(! I've never paid more than $300US for a phone.... so it's really hard to justify. I wonder if the X1 will be like the Touch HD and never sold by AT&T?
Its possible, maybe wait ill january and if theres no xperia announcement then go with the touch pro. Also places like expansys and other handset sellers offer discounts on the xperia if you buy a att contract through them
I just upgraded from the 8525 too and no matter which one you pick its gonna be soo much better. =)
I agree with Bxsteez, the xperia is on a whole other level. If you want a phone capable of being your phone, pda, and music/video player then the x1 is your choice. But if money is an issue then the Touch Pro makes as an awesome choice as well, especially with the phone price of AT&T brand compared to the x1 being almost a $600 difference its very hard to justify getting the x1 over the fuze now.
The X1a has already been announced. You can order starting today, shipping starts on the 28th. It will be $800 unlocked. check infosyncworld.com for more info. It was announced yesterday
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The X1a has already been announced. You can order starting today, shipping starts on the 28th. It will be $800 unlocked. check infosyncworld.com for more info. It was announced yesterday
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That's another issue... The 2 US places I've seen it offered (Sony Store and J&R) are only listing the silver version. I'd really wanted the black :-(!
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That's another issue... The 2 US places I've seen it offered (Sony Store and J&R) are only listing the silver version. I'd really wanted the black :-(!
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You should read what people are saying about the blk one on howardforums. They say their paint is chipping or something like that.
You know what, if you have to create a new contract w/ AT&T anyway, buy the Touch Pro and sell it on eBay. Then the cost to own this eye catching baby is not that much.
Don't see how this deserves a poll, but I found this --> Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1i Silver + AT&T Unlimited Plan ($129.99/Month, 24 Months, Unlimited Voice & Data), #X1iSLV-ATTUNLTD - eXpansys Inc
They might make another deal for the X1a too after release, but I'm an Australian so I don't know too much about it.
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Don't see how this deserves a poll, but I found this --> Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1i Silver + AT&T Unlimited Plan ($129.99/Month, 24 Months, Unlimited Voice & Data), #X1iSLV-ATTUNLTD - eXpansys Inc
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They want $589US for the phone and then $129US/mo (2 year commitment) for unlimited voice and data.
I pay about $35US/month for unlimited data and $0.06US/min for voice (via my company plan), so this doesn't seem like a good deal for me. But thanks for pointing out another option.
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You know what, if you have to create a new contract w/ AT&T anyway, buy the Touch Pro and sell it on eBay. Then the cost to own this eye catching baby is that that much.
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Now that's creative ! Thanks for the suggestion!
Yea that's probably best. Get the Fuze on a new number from letstalk.com for free, unlock it and sell it on ebay or something to offset the price of the X1a =)
Dunno why people say the X1's keyboard is abysmal compared to the touch pro. I actually thought quite the opposite... the touch pro's keys were so small and so close together where as the X1's is nice and spaced out I don't make any errors. Plus the angled screen helps too.
Don't even get me started on that cluster of buttons they call a d-pad.
X1 is worth it...
I owned the TP (European model) and other than the 3G that I now get on U.S. ATT with the Xperia, there are other reasons I'm happy with the X1.
These all have been mentioned before but there is no GPS lag, I get 30fps video at 640x480 (record and playback) and the finger prints aren't nearly as bad.
None of these things are fixed with the ATT FUZE. The things I miss from the TP is the 5 row keyboard and the excellerometer (G-sensor). For me, the other X1 advantages outweigh those two things though.
This thread is very helpful since I'm also seriously considering these 2 devices. I'm leaning toward the xperia, but I'm concerned about a few things.
1) Exactly how bad is the xperia keyboard? Every review says it's horrible compared to the Fuze. I had a chance to play around with the fuze keyboard only. It felt OK but my experience is limited with any type of keyboards, but would like to use more on my next phone, so this is important for me. Is it just a matter of getting used to on the xperia keyboard, or is it just unusable, as some reviews had indicated.
2) Next question is what is it that the xperia has over the fuze? Other than 3.5 jack and panels (which some people don't even like), is there anything that the xperia has over the fuze hands down? Does the 0.2 cm screen make it worth it? It seems like, on the other hand, the fuze has some important hardware advantage, including the g-sensor.
3) Build-wise, is xperia that much better? The fuze seems to be fairly solid, but I haven't had a chance to touch the xperia, so can't compare.
4) Is there any gps lag on the xperia similar to that experienced by fuze users?
The bottom line is $500 difference is a lot (hopefully, the difference won't be as much once it's more mainstream). I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the money, and for now, worth the wait.
1) Exactly how bad is the xperia keyboard? Every review says it's horrible compared to the Fuze. I had a chance to play around with the fuze keyboard only. It felt OK but my experience is limited with any type of keyboards, but would like to use more on my next phone, so this is important for me. Is it just a matter of getting used to on the xperia keyboard, or is it just unusable, as some reviews had indicated.
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the difference between the keyboards is like apples and chicken lol.. I mean u can use the xperia keyboard but the keys are very flat and its kinda difficult to press the keys. I don't think its as bad as the HTC Wizard. I'd say its about equivalent to the TYTN II with the TYTN II being a tad better.
2) Next question is what is it that the xperia has over the fuze? Other than 3.5 jack and panels (which some people don't even like), is there anything that the xperia has over the fuze hands down? Does the 0.2 cm screen make it worth it? It seems like, on the other hand, the fuze has some important hardware advantage, including the g-sensor.
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When you hold the xperia it just feels so much more solid everything moves smoother. I personally believe the xperia is some how drastically faster. The xperia can run tfl3d and the panels but from what i've been seeing they are trying to port the panels to htc devices. The screen on the xperia is much more sensitive and ur less likely to scratch the xperia's screen since its recessed. Lets see. I hate the xperia's tiny call and end buttons but i love the little optical pad. I hated the touch pro's surface buttons because they just felt cheap. hmmm i think that is about it
3) Build-wise, is xperia that much better? The fuze seems to be fairly solid, but I haven't had a chance to touch the xperia, so can't compare.
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The feel of the xperia is just amazing i don't even know how to describe it. I've held a ton of full qwerty smartphones all HTC phones and this is by far the best one. How the keyboard comes out how its curved everything is just so perfect.
4) Is there any gps lag on the xperia similar to that experienced by fuze users?
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I experience gps lag on every device if its the first time ur running gps from a cold start. I think the xperia's has the least lag but its still pretty bad at first.
The bottom line is $500 difference is a lot (hopefully, the difference won't be as much once it's more mainstream). I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the money, and for now, worth the wait.
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I can't really make the decision for you but i would say i'd pay an extra 500 dollars on top of what i paid for this phone and i paid 920 dollars for it with a 16GB card. I don't think i even want to switch to a different phone. I've never said that when i bought a phone and i've had the wizard, tytn, tytn II, touch pro, and a bunch of other smartphones like the s710, qtek 8310(don't know what this in htc lingo), mpx 200, and mpx220
Hope this helps
Bxsteez said:
the difference between the keyboards is like apples and chicken lol.. I mean u can use the xperia keyboard but the keys are very flat and its kinda difficult to press the keys. I don't think its as bad as the HTC Wizard. I'd say its about equivalent to the TYTN II with the TYTN II being a tad better.
When you hold the xperia it just feels so much more solid everything moves smoother. I personally believe the xperia is some how drastically faster. The xperia can run tfl3d and the panels but from what i've been seeing they are trying to port the panels to htc devices. The screen on the xperia is much more sensitive and ur less likely to scratch the xperia's screen since its recessed. Lets see. I hate the xperia's tiny call and end buttons but i love the little optical pad. I hated the touch pro's surface buttons because they just felt cheap. hmmm i think that is about it
The feel of the xperia is just amazing i don't even know how to describe it. I've held a ton of full qwerty smartphones all HTC phones and this is by far the best one. How the keyboard comes out how its curved everything is just so perfect.
I experience gps lag on every device if its the first time ur running gps from a cold start. I think the xperia's has the least lag but its still pretty bad at first.
I can't really make the decision for you but i would say i'd pay an extra 500 dollars on top of what i paid for this phone and i paid 920 dollars for it with a 16GB card. I don't think i even want to switch to a different phone. I've never said that when i bought a phone and i've had the wizard, tytn, tytn II, touch pro, and a bunch of other smartphones like the s710, qtek 8310(don't know what this in htc lingo), mpx 200, and mpx220
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thanks for that i'm a fellow wizard user also this is my current device and it's a toss up between the x1 and the touch pro the touch pro (fuze) seems to be the more economical choice given the pricing but i just like the overall of the x1 but the price for one of those things is outrageous a person on boygeniusreport made a good point it should be no reason why cell phones cost more then laptops either the phones should be cheaper or the voice and data plans should be cheaper
I dunno about that. The smaller ur laptop gets the more expensive it gets. Once u step away from the average user things get expensive. A regular 15.4 inch laptop will cost u nothing but if u get an ultraportable they start getting pretty expensive and extremely weak in power, with the exception of those new badass atom processors. U kinda have to keep in mind this is also a phone. Most laptops aren't walking around with internet connections all the time although u could ;-)
I truly hate the fuze. I'm quite upset they got rid of the ctrl key so i assume u can't do the shortcuts anymore but i will see. I'll be using my upgrade to get a fuze pretty soon just to have it as a back up and i'll write up a comparison to that too.
I currently own both the FUZE and X1i...
Guess what? I'm a HUGE X1 fanboy. Love it...
But, also LOVE the FUZE. And, for me, it might actually be a better all around phone.. Sure the screen isnt as large, the pixels are smaller, and it's a tad slower, but, I love the iphone-like (capacitative) touchscreen. It rocks.
I really like not having edges on my screen. One of the best things about the iphone IMHO. This is a huge selling point on the FUZE
Both phones are similar in call quality- excellent. So far I like the FUZE keyboard a tad better... Haven't really tested all the features, but, as far as the video recording on the X1, I've found it does not live up to the hype... I get HSDPA on both, so they browse the web uber fast....
Anyways, both phones rock. I think this thread is a little biased. The FUZE really has a ton of great qualitites, and, it comes down to a matter of personal preference and needs..
Like I said, both phones are fantastic (I've owned every high end WM phone in the last 3 years) and these 2 are by far the best (have not yet tried Touch HD, but really need physical qwerty anyways)
All in all, you can't go wrong with either one..
Feel free to ask any more questions..
Dbond
dbond45 said:
I currently own both the FUZE and X1i...
Guess what? I'm a HUGE X1 fanboy. Love it...
But, also LOVE the FUZE. And, for me, it might actually be a better all around phone.. Sure the screen isnt as large, the pixels are smaller, and it's a tad slower, but, I love the iphone-like (capacitative) touchscreen. It rocks.
I really like not having edges on my screen. One of the best things about the iphone IMHO. This is a huge selling point on the FUZE
Both phones are similar in call quality- excellent. So far I like the FUZE keyboard a tad better... Haven't really tested all the features, but, as far as the video recording on the X1, I've found it does not live up to the hype... I get HSDPA on both, so they browse the web uber fast....
Anyways, both phones rock. I think this thread is a little biased. The FUZE really has a ton of great qualitites, and, it comes down to a matter of personal preference and needs..
Like I said, both phones are fantastic (I've owned every high end WM phone in the last 3 years) and these 2 are by far the best (have not yet tried Touch HD, but really need physical qwerty anyways)
All in all, you can't go wrong with either one..
Feel free to ask any more questions..
Dbond
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I must say i have to agree with the flush screen in the sense that i have fat fingers and its much easier to close apps on the fuze/touch pro. Now that i think about it i never used the stylus on the touch pro but i do find myself using it on the xperia.

comparison between diamond and diamond2

first of all, sorry if i'm posting something that has been discussed before. the search function didn't prop anything useful, and as you can see i am a user of this forum.
if this has already been discussed, please give me a link of the topic.
my obvious question is if it is worth it to buy the diamond2 instead of putting its software on the original diamond. besides that, how is the better hardware working ? especially the gps chip ? same problems ?
any thoughts are much appreciated. thanks
What can I say... Diamond 2 is better on every aspect compared to the Diamond. I still got my old Diamond and I just started it up and it felt so bad using it if I compare to the D2.
To sum up everything: D2 is BETTER.
it would be strange to be otherwise. I mean, it's Diamond 2 sooo, tehnically, it comes as an upgrade. It would be strange to be a worse phone. Diamond 2 comes with some solutions to problems in D1.
The GPS is okay, after you have downloaded quickGPS, the connection is within seconds (4-5). I'd use iGo with GPS, it's great. Audio is good, many features. Any more questions? Cheers!!!
I had the Diamond for some days and I hated it. The screen is to small for such a device for my POW. The design is also ugly compared to TD2 (my pow again). I actually only got the TD2 because it was cheap and my plan was to sell it again. But I ended up keeping it. I think it's a great phone but battery life could be better.. GPS is working flawlessly tomtom with no probs what so ever
I used the Diamond for over a year.. it was a great phone however it always felt slightly slow, now on the diamond 2 (which i have now) the specs are very similar however the phone feels much much better!
On the diamond I was flashing roms every couple of days, never satisfied.
On the diamond 2 im sitting on the stock rom!!! ..go figure! Fantastic phone.
There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
loriolus said:
There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
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I have not experienced any dust under my screen yet.
u can find pretty nice overview of both over here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2368&idPhone2=2689
btw d2 ownz))im just so happy for it...
Diamond 2 is much better than Diamond in every aspect. But HTC has announced lots of new phones, Touch Pro 2, HD 2. These are all the nice device comparing with Diamond 2. And the HTC LEO will be announced soon. I believe it'll be a great device.
HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
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HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
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Yeah, HTC announces phones larger and larger. At first HD is large enough and a little bit larger for porket. Now they announced LEO.....Anyway if the phone is really top device, the size doesn't matter.
I switched from the diamond to the diamond2, and until now i regret it!
Maybe technically the d2's pecs are far more better than the original, but i've had a lot of problems with it. Freezes a lot of times (T-mobile stock rom), and the promised improved battery life is still bad (charge every 3 days, with normal use).
The worst part are the look and feel of the td2. Compared to the original i now have a brick in my pocket, the original was so much slimmer than this one! The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-moile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
thanks for the replies guys. especially yours hellboy1970. it was clear that the d2 would be better than the d1 in the usual aspects - hardware, battery life, minor fixes, etc. but what i was asking was if it is actually worth it switching .. i mean, the differences between a customized diamond with all the apps and roms and all that and a, so far, stock d2.
of course the d2 will eventually receive more interest than the d1, and i'll switch too by that time, but right now, money wise and all that.
anyway, thanks. i'm thinking of keeping my d1 until d2 lowers its price a bit
Diamond 1 it's a joke compared to D2...
I just flashed the D2 ROM (AZTOR) to my D1 and i'm really fascinated about what a software can do with a device. First i had O2 SW, then some custom ROMs, then original HTC and now this D2 Rom. It's ingenious.
I see the only real disadvantage of the D1 in the "small" display.
I don't care about my GPS taking 3 mins to find a satellite - i usually know at least the direction where i want to go.
So in my eyes, the D2 is a good and certainly better device, but if you own a D1 it's just not worth switching.
hellboy1970 said:
The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-mobile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
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No problem. With frequent use, I am sure it will break off and the T-Mobile will be just like the HTC

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