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I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?
seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal
FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore
Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH
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It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?
Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.
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Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen
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ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal
The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.
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Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.
great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
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I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?
You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.
Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.
Has anyone had this???
My MDA Vario restarts on it self on a regular basis...then it asks for my password n den pin....
is this due to the fact that its been dropped twice??
or is it because i play mp3s on a regular basis?
Are you overclocking it? I was getting that as well but I reduced the speed to 240MHz from 264MHz and it hasn't happened since.
nope
Could also be the ROM Version you are using. I had constant reboots ( 3-5 times a day ) with the original T-Mobile ROM - now that I am using the QTEK 2.18 all is fine - no more reboots.
hmmm im using the original t mobile rom.....i seriously didnt want to blank my rom and flash a new version cos i aint done it before
Well known issue with the TMO Ship ROM I'm afraid. I'm stuck with it (and the reboots) as I need BB Connect but if you don't need BB then I'd recommend the latest QTEK, it's excellent and stable
JoninLA, thanks for that info mate, but whats BB?
also can you direct me to the latest rom, and a few simple instructions...
if the process is long then i wont do it. ive got a ton of coursework to get done...so messing about with fone makes me life a bit more stressful
BB (Blackberry).
Latest QTEK ROM is at ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and I was using the 186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship.exe which was very stable
Guys... I have the same problem with resets. However, this only happens when i have the bluetooth on. Anyone heard of any glitch with the bluetooth patch?
Well I haven't tried having the bluetooth off so you may be right - kind of sucks to say you can't use the SD in all the time or you have to turn the bluetooth off. Basically, this is an issue with the AKU1 and never had any problems with the AKU2 QTEK ROM so if anyone in this post chain doesn't need Blackberry connect I'd just recommend upgrading to a decent ROM
We're wondering if this problem, along with the MDA Vario ROM, might be SD-card related? See thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33537
Andre
andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
SBouri said:
andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
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What's on your SD card at the moment, is there anything that would prevent you from doing what I'm doing and taking it out for a few days for testing purposes?
It would also be worthwhile downloading B_Uptime, a neat little utility that logs all reboots so you'll know how long your device has been running and when any unexpected reboots have occured. See the thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168
Andre
Well that's a full week with not a single unexpected reboot. When I had the SD card in place I was getting several reboots a day. I've got to put the card back in now as I need TomTom, so I guess the reboots will come back and really prove the point if there's any doubt left.
Has anyone else tried this test to see if their reboots go away without an SD card in place?
Hopefully it'll be fully cured with a newer ROM, anyway. I'm waiting to see what the new T-Mobile UK one is like before venturing into that area though.
Andre
andrewilley, mate ive done a hard reset..and also deleted a film of my mini SD card..since then there has not been any random reboots
First post so be gentle.
New to my MDA Vario with a 2 Gig card.
Random reboots have caused me to search for answers.
This link may have some answers.... http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
I have tried the fix and will see what happens.
thanks for the info-i tried that activesync fix but still had 2 futher reboots today :x
Have called tmob, im waiting for them to call me back now :arrow:
a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
dmonik, Good find mate, I noticed that mine restarts when ive put a large film on the Mini SD Card
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a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
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I've tried the Activesync fake server trick from that thread, seems to help in some ways. But, I've found that if you cold boot or soft-reset, then the AS schedule returns to how it was before the change, so you have to do it again.
I recently upgraded to wm6 from the t-mobile site. At first it was running flawlessly and very fast. I have installed windows live, resco and tcmp and still things were quick. after a few weeks, strange things started happening. When i went to my SMS/MMS and began to write a message, the flashing cursor would move along as i typed but no letters would show up on the screen. If i saved this message inot drafts then opened it again, i could then see all the text i had written and was previously hidden.
Soon aftet this started happening, the same began in windows live, then word etc...
recently, my athena has started to crash within an hour of a reset. Most of the time, if i start a program, just the bar at the top will load and nothing else, this is most serious in SMS/MMS. also, when this happens and i got to memory (the start menu and setting tab are still quick) it shows that i always have over 50 meg of ram left. Although, if this helps at all, the device runs slowest when turned on from sleep mode. Before i put the device in sleep mode, when i goto file explorer i can hear the microdrive fire up and this programme runs slow. after if has been in sleep for 20 mins or so, file explorer will never boot up properly and there is no noise from the microdrive.
I have tried hard rest, starts fast again, then slows to nothing after few days. I have tried various tweaks i have seen on here, such as disabling autooff and disabling the x-button programme. I have run spybot and antovirus software and nothing. Anyone got any ideas? thank you in advance
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not sure if this is related but using pocket hack master; firstly, this programme hangs on all bu the last speed test. also, in the processes, there is one with a large red x picture with it. not sure if this is normal but jus thought id mention it
ballsquid said:
not sure if this is related but using pocket hack master; firstly, this programme hangs on all bu the last speed test. also, in the processes, there is one with a large red x picture with it. not sure if this is normal but jus thought id mention it
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There are many many programs out there which hangs my devices and cause the behaviour you described. pocket hack master is one of them, which strangely works for others but not my device. Anothe is Touch Commander.
I usually uninstall the software once they cause freezes.
Try installing and testing your software one at a time to isolate it.
got a feeling it could be windows live. Unfortuantly, this is probably the programme i use the most. Is there any known issue with this?
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got a feeling it could be windows live. Unfortuantly, this is probably the programme i use the most. Is there any known issue with this?
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I personally have had no problem with it, but sometimes one person's experience is not definitive. Try turning it off and see what happens.
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i uninstalled all programmes and it seemed fine but when i put windows live back on. the problem started again. im using build 10.00026 i think. is there a later version than this that could help?
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i uninstalled all programmes and it seemed fine but when i put windows live back on. the problem started again. im using build 10.00026 i think. is there a later version than this that could help?
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I think PK ROM is likely to have the latest version, but Powell is the one who could confirm this.
eaglesteve said:
I think PK ROM is likely to have the latest version, but Powell is the one who could confirm this.
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yes my roms have the latest build(18533 even though theres newer builds not available to public or been ported yet to athena) and the aboslute latest live 33.600 which is still latest in the roms i have from latest devices like polaris and dual
I recently got a Touch Dual/Niki and from time to time when being in standby (the screen turned off) it doesn't respond on any button press, nor does it react when trying to call it, I've got it back up and running only by removing the battery, setting it back and then I can turn on the device again.
I haven't really customized anything and the only 3rd party software that I know that have been running at the time are gmail client and/or live messenger
Anyone else experienced the same problems? ..does this seem like some software bug, or is my hardware faulty?
Rom: 1.31.414.02
Rom date: 11/02/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03H
Operator Saunalahti/Finland
same problem here!
I'd guess hardware, but just to be safe, you should probably do a hard reset and see if that helps. I had a problem with mine where it would lose random amounts of time every once in a while (the clock would be completly wrong) and the screen would become completely unresponsive for over a minute just after I rebooted the phone. At one point, it just decided it didn't want to boot and just got stuck on the WM loading screen, even after multiple hard resets. I replaced the device and the new one works perfectly.
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
ok, just did the hard reset, if it happens again I'll go replace it
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yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
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same here. at the moment I try to live with that, although it's rather annoying. happens 3 to 4 times a day. no response to touchscreen or buttons, but touching the screen makes the backlight going from dimmed to bright. (you know, after quite a while being idle, it dims and after another while it goes to standby)
about half a minute later it's back and executes some (or all) of the inputs at once.
I use some third party programs and tools, but nothing which diggs deep in the system (except AEButton+). So maybe it's one of them. Also I use scheduled IMAP synchronization, which may also play a part in this.
Any one-fits-all solution is deeply appreciated. (Not very impressive to show a frozen device...)
Cheers,
jekk
Ok, it just happened again.. I'll go complain to service.
Same thing here... happens whenever it feels like it. I thought it may have been one of my apps.... particularly Photo Contacts Pro as every now and then that does some strange things, but interesting to know this happens to others as well.
yeah
just happened to me again as well
any solutions?
*bump*
Currently I wonder whether this is a hardware or software issue. So some questions:
did someone flash the problem away?
did someone hard-reset the problem away?
did someone device-replace the problem away?
This would be helpful.
Cheers,
jekk.
Flashed my niki.
I'm getting very regular freeze up's on browsing the internet with a 3G connection. I'm waiting for a new ROM to arrive to determine if the problem is software/hardware (unless both ROM's use the same base Rom )
My old prophet had an easy accesible reset button, unfortunately I have to remove the batterycap now and I have a feeling the mechanisme won't hold for 2 years if I open it every day a couple times.
FWIW, my device is currently sent in for service, I'll report back with the outcome when I eventually get a device back..
Isn't it just brilliant, after a week of "service", they tell me freely translated: "No problem found. Device reset. (Might it be the standby mode from which the device wakes up by pressing the power button?)"
Of course they did not bother to call me to ask for further clarification... Now I'll have to wait until it arrives back at the shop where I sent it in so I can go and send it back..
Oh the joy!
Same freeze problem
Hi guys
I' have same freeze probleme on my niki, i made hard reset without solving nothing.Only solution remove battery and restart.
In my case it always happens while system is in stand by so my phone goes offline and i havent any advice.
Last mornig after a night recharge a foud my niki completely uncharged with red led.I have ordered a new battery hoping the problem may be in my battery.
I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't wake up when I pressed the powerbutton.
Last thursday I flashed my device with Tom Codon's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
I haven't got the problem since
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I've just hard reset mine .... now seems stable ... before it was freezing every time I tried to use it.
So now I have no SD installed + no apps.
Before
SD with very few apps
Sprite backup HTC version
Informant previuos version
Flex Mail 2007
Copilot 6
Fsecure from Tmobile customisation
So I am thinking SD compatability may have been my issue ... I only had a 2GB Sandisk Premier. Will try a 1GB later
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[...] until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card.
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That's interesting... I am also using a (4gb) micro sd card. Maybe this really is the reason for the freezes. hard resets (2 till now) didn't solve the problem for me and I have not tried flashing a new rom yet. so this goes well with the possibility of a misbehaving driver thing.
As I wrote I only had freeze up's during browsing the www. After reading that there might be a sd-card driver problem I changed all IE temp directories back from the storage card to the device itself and I now can browse uninterrupted. So it seems that there is a slight driver issue.
Ralph
Changing SD card semed to fix things for me ..... at least for th last few days.
Before I swapped card I had constant problems
For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
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For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
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Wich "applications" are you talking about?
Because I use a lot of Resco Explorer, it is the firtst app that came in mind that I have seen the "freeze" problem.
Other times that I have seen is when I press the "X" to close an application.
I confirm this comportement with Resco Explorer: do you have installed cf3.5?
Yes, I have installed cf3.5
I get this in Opera and text messaging. Just becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Is most annoying..
Noticed this as well, I don't think it is related to Resco Explorer, because it happened on my device when I was typing an email or sms and I don't have Resco Explorer installed. Not a big deal to me though, as long as I don't see it too often
That's the problem with new phones today, because of competition they are shipped with beta firmware. Then, a few months later, a new firmware is released and that's it because they are working on a new model.
(A good example is Touch Diamond)
What would you do if your car had a software bug that caused the engine to loose power a few seconds now and then?
Why should we be so forgiving because it's only a phone?
I'm tired of being an unpaid betatester
I have noticed this about 3 times just today whilst writing SMS. Very annoying indeed!
I've got the same problem. At random in Opera and in sms application. 2-3-4 seconds of... nothing!!!
The problem is that it came out after the first week... the first week never got stops.
Maybe, if we make a little list of programs we have on... soo too understand where the problem can be
I am not sure if it is an application related problem, because as I was trying to remember, I have the feeling that I have seen the problem even before install any kind of programs
Zakkosekk, I totally agree with you, when we have pay 700euro to buy a pocket pc, it has at least to be bugs free.
jolas said:
For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
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Yes, I have the same problem. Random freezing for a couple of seconds every once in awhile.
I also had this problem. After hard reset and reinstalling everything (incl. Resco), but without net cf 3.5 i do not have this problem anymore. looks like related to cf 3.5 ?
... Sorry, problem is still there
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I also had this problem. After hard reset and reinstalling everything (incl. Resco), but without net cf 3.5 i do not have this problem anymore. looks like related to cf 3.5 ?
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Hmmm, interesting. I do have .net running, but it's required for some apps.
I only installed cf3.5 today, and had this issue before and after, I don't think it's the problem. It is almost like some background app is taking all the cpu for a bit?
Same problem to mine!
I think we should let HTC see this thread!
i dont think cf3.5 is the problem. i dont have it installed
but expirience the same problem while texting and opera. it's very annoying!
deixi
I sent an email in HTC's technical support, with the topic's address.
I have noticed this problem also. We can easily check is it software related, does someone want to do hard reset and check?
no need for a hard reset, mine is brand new & i have nothig installed on it! but i have the problem.
deix