ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

Related

Orange UK AKU2 (Push Email) ROM released

Get your copy here..
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...c=PaDPage&cid=1044130840493&mid=1044129390154
I haven't tested it yet so can't comment wether this contains other improvments yet.
downloading...
Likewise....
Anyone got it on yet? Any other 'fixes'..
Isee that they have stuck with Radio ROM 1.03
I did... it's too early to say anything... device seems a bit faster but same is the case when you reflash any new rom...
NO A2DP?????
chris_khho said:
NO A2DP?????
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no a2dp
Opera beta has got font problems in the address bar with this new update
Did the update last night - mainly due to the fact my M5000 kept trying to connect with the internet and running up a £100 wap data bill for February. (God knows how I managed to use 38mb of wap, but Orange are looking into it!)
Anyway, I thought I'd post my findings so far:
Device does seem quicker, menu's pop up faster and I've yet to see the "loading" symbol once!
different front end when you configure the device; new windows mobile blue splash screen.
U symbol on the top bar has been replaced by a 3G symbol.
seems to be a new battery/charger symbol on the top bar aswell
I don't know whether the device lock option for the today screen was in the previous rom (I can't remember seeing it, or using it) but it's definately there now.
New "Comm Manager". New interface thats replaced the old Phone/Bluetooth/Wifi switcher program. There seems to be a few new options on this. I have'nt played around with it yet but it comprises of: Phone/Bluetooth/Wifi as before but now also has a PDA symbol, Sound/vibrate option, activesync, and Message symbol (which is probably linked to the new push email facility (not tried that yet either!)
Thats about all I've found so far.
However here's a couple of strange things that have happened since the update:
Activesync set up quite easily (I know that's strange in itself!) but it would not allow me to sync my Outlook contacts back to the device. I had to use a contact back up program I got off the BuzDev website. This was'nt a problem for me before.
The other one is I had quite a few tsk files in my windows/documents folder before the update. All of which disappeared after the update except one. Silverado.tsk. Now I got that file originally by using Wisbar Advance 2 and WAD and It's confusing me as to how it was still on the device. Either it has stayed on the device after the update somehow or Orange have shipped this with the new rom??
Anyone shed any light on this or am I being the complete noob that I am?
I backed up my M5000 with SPBBackup and then proceeded to install the Orange update. Failed the first time, but succeeded the second time around.
Tried to restore my files, and SPBBackup says should not restore as backup from different system -- did a restore anyway. Upon reset, M5000 hangs and hangs and hangs. Just will not start up.
Any help or advice is welcome.
So at the end of the day is it worth upgrading? Has anyone else tried the upgrade?
So at the end of the day is it worth upgrading? Has anyone else tried the upgrade?
xqizit said:
So at the end of the day is it worth upgrading? Has anyone else tried the upgrade?
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I upgraded Saturday and have been quite impressed so far. Seems to resolve issues I was having with menu options not appearing on the bottom notifications bar and a few other gripes.
The changed icons on the top appear to be what we should have had according to the Orange M5000 manual (M5000 MUG UK_GraySacle.pdf).
Performance is improved in so much that the device is more responsive.
Only strange behavior is Magic Button not working quite the same! But i can live with it
Is worth upgrading? YES YES YES
But allow 2 hours to do a thorough job, and write down the key s/w you've installed so that you can reinstall what you really want
And lastly, i have had no issue by upgrading Radio V1.09 on top of the updated ROM etc.
What about those with o2 Execs, with either the RC1 or official new imate ROMs...like me.
Does anyone who DID have this ROM find any advantage in the Orange one, over the iMate?
Cheers
Ant
sipat said:
I backed up my M5000 with SPBBackup and then proceeded to install the Orange update. Failed the first time, but succeeded the second time around.
Tried to restore my files, and SPBBackup says should not restore as backup from different system -- did a restore anyway. Upon reset, M5000 hangs and hangs and hangs. Just will not start up.
Any help or advice is welcome.
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Hard reset, and don't use your old backup. It will not work!
nikbedwell said:
xqizit said:
So at the end of the day is it worth upgrading? Has anyone else tried the upgrade?
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I upgraded Saturday and have been quite impressed so far. Seems to resolve issues I was having with menu options not appearing on the bottom notifications bar and a few other gripes.
The changed icons on the top appear to be what we should have had according to the Orange M5000 manual (M5000 MUG UK_GraySacle.pdf).
Performance is improved in so much that the device is more responsive.
Only strange behavior is Magic Button not working quite the same! But i can live with it
Is worth upgrading? YES YES YES
But allow 2 hours to do a thorough job, and write down the key s/w you've installed so that you can reinstall what you really want
And lastly, i have had no issue by upgrading Radio V1.09 on top of the updated ROM etc.
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Great to hear its an improvement.... I think I will definitely go ahead with the upgrade... now... all I need is that 2 hours spare time! :?
Thanks

Random Restarts

Has anyone had this???
My MDA Vario restarts on it self on a regular basis...then it asks for my password n den pin....
is this due to the fact that its been dropped twice??
or is it because i play mp3s on a regular basis?
Are you overclocking it? I was getting that as well but I reduced the speed to 240MHz from 264MHz and it hasn't happened since.
nope
Could also be the ROM Version you are using. I had constant reboots ( 3-5 times a day ) with the original T-Mobile ROM - now that I am using the QTEK 2.18 all is fine - no more reboots.
hmmm im using the original t mobile rom.....i seriously didnt want to blank my rom and flash a new version cos i aint done it before
Well known issue with the TMO Ship ROM I'm afraid. I'm stuck with it (and the reboots) as I need BB Connect but if you don't need BB then I'd recommend the latest QTEK, it's excellent and stable
JoninLA, thanks for that info mate, but whats BB?
also can you direct me to the latest rom, and a few simple instructions...
if the process is long then i wont do it. ive got a ton of coursework to get done...so messing about with fone makes me life a bit more stressful
BB (Blackberry).
Latest QTEK ROM is at ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and I was using the 186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship.exe which was very stable
Guys... I have the same problem with resets. However, this only happens when i have the bluetooth on. Anyone heard of any glitch with the bluetooth patch?
Well I haven't tried having the bluetooth off so you may be right - kind of sucks to say you can't use the SD in all the time or you have to turn the bluetooth off. Basically, this is an issue with the AKU1 and never had any problems with the AKU2 QTEK ROM so if anyone in this post chain doesn't need Blackberry connect I'd just recommend upgrading to a decent ROM
We're wondering if this problem, along with the MDA Vario ROM, might be SD-card related? See thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33537
Andre
andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
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andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
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What's on your SD card at the moment, is there anything that would prevent you from doing what I'm doing and taking it out for a few days for testing purposes?
It would also be worthwhile downloading B_Uptime, a neat little utility that logs all reboots so you'll know how long your device has been running and when any unexpected reboots have occured. See the thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168
Andre
Well that's a full week with not a single unexpected reboot. When I had the SD card in place I was getting several reboots a day. I've got to put the card back in now as I need TomTom, so I guess the reboots will come back and really prove the point if there's any doubt left.
Has anyone else tried this test to see if their reboots go away without an SD card in place?
Hopefully it'll be fully cured with a newer ROM, anyway. I'm waiting to see what the new T-Mobile UK one is like before venturing into that area though.
Andre
andrewilley, mate ive done a hard reset..and also deleted a film of my mini SD card..since then there has not been any random reboots
First post so be gentle.
New to my MDA Vario with a 2 Gig card.
Random reboots have caused me to search for answers.
This link may have some answers.... http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
I have tried the fix and will see what happens.
thanks for the info-i tried that activesync fix but still had 2 futher reboots today :x
Have called tmob, im waiting for them to call me back now :arrow:
a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
dmonik, Good find mate, I noticed that mine restarts when ive put a large film on the Mini SD Card
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a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
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I've tried the Activesync fake server trick from that thread, seems to help in some ways. But, I've found that if you cold boot or soft-reset, then the AS schedule returns to how it was before the change, so you have to do it again.

New Sprint Rom Is Here ???

New sprint rom?? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10293&page=3
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...PL106_Ship.exe
It's been confirmed. That is the new official ROM for Sprint. It fixes the Bluetooth issues among others. No Rev. A or GPS of course, but that was expected.
question is, is this really "better" than the alltel rom that has been available for a long time already over at PPCgeeks...
The alltel rom fixed the BT and alarm problem as well. I'm excited to see that Sprint finally caught up, but I'm wondering if this is better than the setup I currently have.
Well I for one am happy and upset.. I would like to see REV A , as I need the faster upload speeds for sending big files from my 4gb micro sd.
I havent tried the Alltel rom, but the new sprint rom fixes the keyboard lag + wm6 responsiveness problems.
After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
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After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
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i took the plunge yesterday, i skipped out on all the sprint customization and everything turned out ok....haven't tested bluetooth yet but everything you said seems to be on point...
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-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
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Just to clarify this is part. A hard reset will completely erase any carrier customizations there is absolutely no reason for installing extrom, hard resetting then skipping. Just start out with the hard reset, skip customizations and you'll be good to go.
Although there are still the other bugs with the update =)
Just installed it a while ago, skipped the sprint customizations, everything seems to be running good and actually noticeably quicker than before. New startup screen is cool too, no problems thus far =)
do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
Seems to only happen to some people though. I have had my phone on pretty much straight since the rom update.
there seems to be a major bluetooth issue where the BT just shuts off periodically.. Not sure how,but they found a way to make bluetooth even worse!
I can't carry on a conversation without BT shutting off on me.. (or use the gps without it shutting off/etc..)
-mark
I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
No, "most" users are not experiencing better results. I've been using this ROM with poor results, as have many others. Read this thread for many sad tales of woe:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10302
Basically, the new ROM does fix a bunch of things, but breaks others, so I would not recommend installing this ROM.
1) Locks up when changing from Sprint to roaming. You can test this by manually switching from Sprint to roaming and back a few times, you WILL get a phone lockup.
2) BT turns off randomly for many users.
3) Turn on BT, let unit sit for a few minutes until it goes to sleep, turn unit back on, dpad no longer works. I have seen this myself many times.
Don't install this update --- use the Alltel ROM or wait for another update.
GoodThings2Life said:
Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
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1) You're incorrect in stating that most users have no problems, etc. Some do, some don't. Read the posts at ppcgeeks, pdaphonehome, BAW, hofo. I am not at all alone in having problems.
2) I downgraded 2 days ago, and my Mogul runs fine again - just exactly like it did for the 1st 3 months I had it. It's not my hardware! It's a bad ROM release.
Not everyone uses the phone in the same way at all. So of course some people will not see the same problems that others do.
If you never use Bluetooth and never roam, then this ROM will work for you. Otherwise, it will cause problems. For me, Bluetooth works much better in 2.09, and I rarely if ever see lockups as I have with 2.16. So, I'm going with 2.09 for now. The alarm problem IS fixed in 2.16 but I never use alarms on my phone so it's not an issue for me. Freezes when roaming ARE a problem.
cbunting said:
do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
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is colonels rom built on the alltel core rom? if so it may be our best bet as of now.

Realy confused and in need of help

I recently upgraded to wm6 from the t-mobile site. At first it was running flawlessly and very fast. I have installed windows live, resco and tcmp and still things were quick. after a few weeks, strange things started happening. When i went to my SMS/MMS and began to write a message, the flashing cursor would move along as i typed but no letters would show up on the screen. If i saved this message inot drafts then opened it again, i could then see all the text i had written and was previously hidden.
Soon aftet this started happening, the same began in windows live, then word etc...
recently, my athena has started to crash within an hour of a reset. Most of the time, if i start a program, just the bar at the top will load and nothing else, this is most serious in SMS/MMS. also, when this happens and i got to memory (the start menu and setting tab are still quick) it shows that i always have over 50 meg of ram left. Although, if this helps at all, the device runs slowest when turned on from sleep mode. Before i put the device in sleep mode, when i goto file explorer i can hear the microdrive fire up and this programme runs slow. after if has been in sleep for 20 mins or so, file explorer will never boot up properly and there is no noise from the microdrive.
I have tried hard rest, starts fast again, then slows to nothing after few days. I have tried various tweaks i have seen on here, such as disabling autooff and disabling the x-button programme. I have run spybot and antovirus software and nothing. Anyone got any ideas? thank you in advance
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not sure if this is related but using pocket hack master; firstly, this programme hangs on all bu the last speed test. also, in the processes, there is one with a large red x picture with it. not sure if this is normal but jus thought id mention it
ballsquid said:
not sure if this is related but using pocket hack master; firstly, this programme hangs on all bu the last speed test. also, in the processes, there is one with a large red x picture with it. not sure if this is normal but jus thought id mention it
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There are many many programs out there which hangs my devices and cause the behaviour you described. pocket hack master is one of them, which strangely works for others but not my device. Anothe is Touch Commander.
I usually uninstall the software once they cause freezes.
Try installing and testing your software one at a time to isolate it.
got a feeling it could be windows live. Unfortuantly, this is probably the programme i use the most. Is there any known issue with this?
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got a feeling it could be windows live. Unfortuantly, this is probably the programme i use the most. Is there any known issue with this?
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I personally have had no problem with it, but sometimes one person's experience is not definitive. Try turning it off and see what happens.
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i uninstalled all programmes and it seemed fine but when i put windows live back on. the problem started again. im using build 10.00026 i think. is there a later version than this that could help?
ballsquid said:
i uninstalled all programmes and it seemed fine but when i put windows live back on. the problem started again. im using build 10.00026 i think. is there a later version than this that could help?
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I think PK ROM is likely to have the latest version, but Powell is the one who could confirm this.
eaglesteve said:
I think PK ROM is likely to have the latest version, but Powell is the one who could confirm this.
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yes my roms have the latest build(18533 even though theres newer builds not available to public or been ported yet to athena) and the aboslute latest live 33.600 which is still latest in the roms i have from latest devices like polaris and dual

Im tired of this F-ing phone freezing

it would just freeze randomly when left alone...and i wouldn't even know unless i push the standby key and it doesn't turn on or the time on the LCD is way wrong
worst is i cant get any calls while it's frozen and i can never recieve a txtmsg sent while it's frozen..even if i reboot the txtmsg will never be recieved
even worst is when it freezes while the lcd is on...it just sits there like that draining the battery
i cant figure out why..i report,as well as others, about this problem before but no one has any idea what's causing it
and no, there is no 3rd party programs running and yes this will happen on a clean cooked rom with no options checks off..i've tried everything...my only guess is that tmail.exe or the messaging system is causing it..but i cant be sure
does anyone have any ideas, i have to poke my phone 5-6 times a day when it freezes. is there any memory resident apps that can detect a frozen OS and force a soft reboot? and coders want to have ago at it?
What ROM/Radio/apps are you running? My Titan has never done that except when There were some reg entries I botched when I first got it.
No offense, but it is usually user error when things go awry, from adding bad oem's to the kitchen or messing with the registry entries.
A little more info is needed please.
Mine will freeze up if I leave the wifi switch on and then hit the power button to put it in standby. Or if I just let it time out and it goes into standby with the wifi switch on.
I upgraded to the VZW MR1 update and all is fixed!!
im running D.C.D 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50
but this has been happening since before 3.2.X
no oems added, and like i said i would happen with a clean rom with no apps installed
i tried that to make sure it was a program i installed that was caussing it to freeze
i take it Windows Mobile doesnt have an event log or crash dump
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im running D.C.D 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50
but this has been happening since before 3.2.X
no oems added, and like i said i would happen with a clean rom with no apps installed
i tried that to make sure it was a program i installed that was caussing it to freeze
i take it Windows Mobile doesnt have an event log or crash dump
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Try radio 3.42.40 Some ppl were having problems with 3.42.50, but I used it for a couple of months ok.
Well, honestly, this is far out of my range of advice. I have been running DCD ROM's since I got my phone, and re-flashing has cured my no wifi/no bluetooth/no whatever problems since I started. Delete the kitchen package, restart your computer, re-download, build ROM and flash again.
Its not the most convenient option, but it will tell you whether you have a hardware problem or not.
I have had many problems with the no2chem rom I am running now, but in comparison DCD's ROMs should be solid. I suggest you re-download the kitchen and build again. Start fresh, then report back.
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Try radio 3.42.40 Some ppl were having problems with 3.42.50, but I used it for a couple of months ok.
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this happen with all radio's released since 3.40.02...i dont think it's the radio.
and i've tried recooking and reflashing with no success
wat it did try was this....i left the taskmanager running in process view and sorted by cpu usage..if i is a program i might catch it in action if the phone freezes with display on
and it did eventually...the program at the top wen it froze was tmail.exe @ 36% cpu useage...im not complete certain its the cause
and tmail.exe is a base OS file right? it's pocket outlook and i need it for TXTMSG
Do you have a lot of text messages saved? I have about 1500 saved... and if I keep more, freaky stuff happens... like bad restores with PIM and slow texting.
actually, i do about 4000
i'll archive them with PIMbackup and erase them
i'll report back
Fr3nZy said:
actually, i do about 4000
i'll archive them with PIMbackup and erase them
i'll report back
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nope it didnt help...froze 4 times today
had exact same problem u did. did everything possible... nothing worked. turns out its a product defect that it crashes so brought it into telus store and they switched it for me.. since it was still under warranty if u have warranty i suggest u do the same... if not... im sorry mate this is not a software issue.
i had that defected phone for atleast a month.. and trust me when i say this.. i tried EVERYTHING. lol
actually its still under warrenty
i'll bear it and try and see if it is a software issue
i dont want to take it in for servicing if it's really not a hardware issue
the phone is pretty much new still
i might try flashing the official sprint rom and see if it fixes it
did you do a hardreset after each flash that you do. Cause if not you will have alot of footprint left over.
Only one app consistently locked my phone...
CorePlayer. I finally removed it after installing Kinoma Play (full edtion).
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
mine actually frooze when i have it in my pocket only. i found out that if the power on button is held down a long time, it might freeze light that. thats what i learned since i have it. it might strange weird but this is how it freeze with me.
DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50.
Cabanon said:
mine actually frooze when i have it in my pocket only. i found out that if the power on button is held down a long time, it might freeze light that. thats what i learned since i have it. it might strange weird but this is how it freeze with me.
DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50.
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It may be because you are going into a weak 3G area whilst its in your pocket (which causes the problem when the phone auto-switches bands) the solution is to try what I suggest and if not entirely satisfied then perhaps try to update the radio.
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It may be because you are going into a weak 3G area whilst its in your pocket (which causes the problem when the phone auto-switches bands) the solution is to try what I suggest and if not entirely satisfied then perhaps try to update the radio.
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well, maybe., but i dont use the 3g band at all, im not even using a data plan because i dont surf the web at all other than at home via wifi. if it freeze, i just reboot. im not that too worried about that as it happen really few times.
Cabanon said:
well, maybe., but i dont use the 3g band at all, im not even using a data plan because i dont surf the web at all other than at home via wifi. if it freeze, i just reboot. im not that too worried about that as it happen really few times.
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Do you not gt a 3G signal in your area or have you disabled it on the phone, you always have some type of signal going to the phone whether or not you actually run data connections.
If you are not using 3G then your must be getting an Edge or GPRS connection that you can make phone calls with. Its still worth setting the band type to GSM + AUTO even if you don't get a 3G signal in your area.
hang up etc
I installed everything in main memory and nothing but storage on card and doped to 49% on cpu, until phone is used and the around 55% , I dont know if that might help you but it did for me.

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