Unlocking Sprint Apache?! - XV6700, PPC-6700 General

can this be done.. i live in a country that doesn't have that phone and i was thinking of buying it from the US through Sprint.. but will i be able to unlock it and use it on my country?? does it support SIM or not?

Why not use a HTC-HERMES
You would be better off getting a HTC-HERMES based phone. most of the US phones that are EVDO-based can't be unlocked to my knowledge. The HTC TyTN 3G Phone is better every which way than the PPC6700. I've demo'ed both units and I really like the new Hermes over the 6700. Not to mention that sprint is the one of the *worse* US celluar companies out there
Thx
-cosmic

In a conversation with a verizon rep a few months ago, I learned that, while not advertised, it is technically possible to activate sprint phones on the verizon network. they would need the MSL (master subsidy lock) code and a second unlock code. The MSL is needed to program the phone with the phone number itself. The second code is used for deeper device programming so that it would work on other networks. keep in mind that the rep said that it is technically possible and could not point to actual instances where it had been done.
on a side note...I think that sprint uses only one frequency mode, while say...verizon uses two frequency modes (but the one sprint uses is the same one verizon uses for voice and data on evdo phones).
my understanding is that another carrier will have to add the ESN of the sprint phone to the ESN block of their phones, which is something that may be difficult to do...you would probably have to find some kind, knowledgeable rep to do this for you.

No Verizon
I'm using verizon wireless now. Before using verizon, Please read the following:
* Not only does Verizon limit the type of "unlimited" use, it imposes a quota on "unlimited" use, and terminates customers who exceed it. According to the Washington Post.[6], Broadband Reports[7], tech columnist Robert X. Cringely, many wireless industry "insider" news sites[8],[9], and countless blogs[10]; Verizon advertises "unlimited" broadand service but automatically terminates anyone using more than 5G/month (166M/day), no matter what they use the service for. This is a quota of about 15 minutes of actual data transmission time... for an "unlimited" use account. A PBS investigator monitored his bandwidth during normal use and discovered it to be 184M/day[11]. .
Taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless
This is very tue of verizon. Does anyone know if this is gonna change anytime soon?

You can get the MSL (unlock) code from the Apache by using Bitpim. Check this post:
http://ppc6700users.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1640&start=15
It worked for me on a Qwest phone. Sprint still wouldn't activate it for me though.

no SIM but you can now change ur ESN see here.
~Mike

after my post above, I tried a few things...
here's what you would need to do :
change your esn (you will need your msl) to an esn that is in the block of the target carrier (hint, buy a cheap or give-a-way) change your esn, make sure that you calculate a checksum (there are instructions and programs all over the internet on how to change your esn). program your phone with your number: ##<your msl here># and type in your 10-digit phone number. don't worry about the dec or hex, just change the esn and program your number.

From Assoicated Press - Spring Nextel Agrees to Unlock Phones
I think its going to get a little bit easier, check this out:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPBoupMPJ6Tl4jgQ5aG0f8-R9KEgD8SH61A80
I'll start a new thread to make sure it gets seen

You CAN NOT use a CDMA phone on a GSM network. They are completely different signals. You can unlock a Sprint phone and force it onto Verizon. You can't force a Verizon phone onto Sprint, unless you know someone inside that doesn't mind losing their job.
Again, CDMA phones ONLY work on CDMA networks such as Verizon or Sprint.

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Cingular forces new phone numbers when you move?

I tried to port my Sprint # over to my new Cingular/AT&T phones, and got a call from them telling me they can't do it because my Sprint phones are in FL, and I'm now it VA. I was further informed that if I (or anyone) move out of their "market" (another state) then they are required to change their phone #, being they will be more than 50% out of their area/market. WTF!?!?!?! Has ANYONE heard this? None of the poeple in the Cingular stores know about this, and we all know people here with different area codes, and nobody I know of had to change their #s!!!
Anyone?!?
AT&T can port your number over to Cingular wireless now the new AT&T even if your number is from another state. The problems occurs when you try to combine a Houston TX number with a Florida number on a family plan this cannot be done as of yet. 50% out of your area is true to an extent if you are in an area that is not covered with AT&T cell towers but you can still receive service you may be using our roaming partners. You won’t know who’s network your using but in some rare instances your house for example may not be covered with AT&T cell tower and you keep using the roaming partners cell AT&T can shut down your number with notices that is.

Boost Unlimited On HTC Touch by sprint

ok I got a boost unlimited phone can I put the esn and other stuff I need on the Touch and used the touch on boost unlimited ? please I really have search and search but no luck any help will be great .Both phones are CDMA.
not sure how boost does there phones anymore but from what i can remember boost uses sim chips right? how would you transfer the info from the chip on to the vogue?
dont even bother anyways boost is getting ready to get terminated.... SAY BYE BYE TO BOOST... and METRO PCS here in so cal.....
Not possible, boost uses same system as nextel and they iden-GSM
have fun paying extra for standard features with metro _ its all equal in the end game. except sprint has more coverage and a faster data network... as for a touch with UbB - I wouldn't recommend it. you will never get your esn on the account... unless ur an expert social engineer ;-) I work for the company I know.
help.
hey did you find any metr in southern cal to flash your touch.. ive been looking for days.. and no luckk
SciFer said:
Not possible, boost uses same system as nextel and they iden-GSM
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boost mobile does use nextel, but its only iDen. neither nextel or boost uses GSM
liquidfiretibby said:
boost mobile does use nextel, but its only iDen. neither nextel or boost uses GSM
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While boost Mobile does use Nextel's iden system, the boost "unlimited" service actually uses sprint's CDMA network.
matt314159 said:
While boost Mobile does use Nextel's iden system, the boost "unlimited" service actually uses sprint's CDMA network.
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you are correct.
did you ever get your phone activated on boost?
yes its activated now. I can do video or what ever and its not the chip im suing the CDMA network. they have CDMA down south I have instructions. I've dont it 5 times for friends. I have picture mail, Tethering 3g EDGE, Great coverage unlimited for 50 dollars, EVERYTHING,
Its this simple here my simple 123 list
1 bought 60 dollars worth of minutes. you need 65 cause of activation fee. I got him to waive the fee.
2.get it activated BOOST CDMA ONLY, I USED MOTO c290 for BOOST. use it for a few hours. Use one of the the 13 states that have the service, if yours is not avail on the list dont try it, wont work. I USED FLORIDA NC,TX,CA work
3 call back with other phone get DEC using the back label or ##786# (new Phone)
4 They will give you your MSL code something like ##343456# change number and msid. it should reboot.
5 go to ##3282# and reset your network settings, if the net doesn't work, soft reboot twice. and boom. you got it working
This works on all SPRINT PHONES. Enjoy
its not possible. seeing that boost is iDen.
It is Possible THEY HAVE A CDMA NETWORK. And Uses Sprints CDMA on boost accounts. And they share ESN's for the CDMA service. I have one activated as I type.
Blackberry Curve 8350i phone, internet, mms no longer working
Hi, I have a Nextel 8350i using Boost. Here is what I had working on it: Native Blackberry Browser, Operamini, Blackberry Maps, Nimbuzz, Gmail, BB MMS, etc. The other day I was trying a new application called Turn Radio On. It did not seem like it was working so I deleted it even though the message said it was in use and did I still want to delete it. I deleted it. Also, I was trying to change my signal bar back from numbers to bars and may have hit the wrong keys before I hit Alt, NUMLL. Well, because of my carelessness, I cannot get on the internet, I cannot receive or send calls, mms, gmail, etc. Under Options, Advanced, Mobile Network it says Data Services On, Mobile Network 100316. Also under Advanced, in Host Routing Table it says No Entries. I am using Desktop Manager 4.7, Nextel 8350i, Boost service, and until last night everything was working fine. Except for I could never get Shangmail to work. I made a very dumb mistake! I was wondering what to do next? Should I delete my service books and then reinstall them? I tried taking the battery out numerous times and even used quick pull a few times but all i get is the Wi-Fi signal logo. I hope to get this phone back to normal with the understanding that it is a tool to communicate with not a toy. If anyone can help thanks!
remygreen said:
yes its activated now. I can do video or what ever and its not the chip im suing the CDMA network. they have CDMA down south I have instructions. I've dont it 5 times for friends. I have picture mail, Tethering 3g EDGE, Great coverage unlimited for 50 dollars, EVERYTHING,
Its this simple here my simple 123 list
1 bought 60 dollars worth of minutes. you need 65 cause of activation fee. I got him to waive the fee.
2.get it activated BOOST CDMA ONLY, I USED MOTO c290 for BOOST. use it for a few hours. Use one of the the 13 states that have the service, if yours is not avail on the list dont try it, wont work. I USED FLORIDA NC,TX,CA work
3 call back with other phone get DEC using the back label or ##786# (new Phone)
4 They will give you your MSL code something like ##343456# change number and msid. it should reboot.
5 go to ##3282# and reset your network settings, if the net doesn't work, soft reboot twice. and boom. you got it working
This works on all SPRINT PHONES. Enjoy
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I can second this. Was able to do it with a Sprint Touch Pro 2.
FYI - You guys are both right...The "$50 Unlimited" plans use the CDMA Sprint network with Boost, and the rest of the plans still use iDen technology
I have another method that i used for my tp2 on boost...
1. Get a cdma boost phone(i used w385)
2. Activate boost cdma if your within those 13 states.
3.Go to sprint.com and register.
4.Logout and re-register with same number(Disregard all error messages)
5.Log-in using second username u registered with and scroll down to bottom and click activate a new phone.
6. Enter esn for your touch pro 2 and wait til it activates.(Your not done)
7. On your touch pro 2 go to Settings>All settings>System>Update Profile
YOUR ALL SET!!! Phone,Txt,Pics,3gnet, but Sprint Tv worked once and hasn't since then.
The best source of info on this subject seems to be at HoFo...they have a forum specifically for Boost CDMA. Also a good "must read" FAQ, which tells which Sprint phones are compatible, how to use sprint.com account to swap to Sprint phone, etc...
Also now you can activate a Boost CDMA phone anywhere in the US...not just restricted areas any more.
howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=519
actually yes you can .
i have the sprint htc touch pro and i using the boost mobile $50 unlimited plan. everything works fine the calls, text, web. you can get someone to flash it for you on ebay for around 50-60 dollars. hope this helps
Boost Unlimited uses CDMA
Boost now has the Samsung Galaxy Prevail running Android. Boost uses Sprint's CDMA network and data speeds are 3G all for $50 per month guys. As for IDEN: They still have some IDEN phones that work on NexTel's old network if you want the Push to Talk feature

Limited service w/o Data foreign SIM

I am trying to see if I can use my limited skills to fix the no data problem I am having. I unlocked my motorola Atrix and I put in a local SIM (Softbank). I get voice/text fine, not data though, even with correct APNs (verified APNs with another phone).
So what I am looking for is to get a list of people who have unlocked their phones and use them on different carriers. I would like to know this information:
Did you activate the phone with AT&T SIM?
Did you activate the phone in the US?
What country are you using your phone in?
What is the MCC of your carrier (in APN)?
Were the APNs preloaded or not?
Are you able to get data to work? Voice?
I think that is all I need.....like I said I am not a developer and it may not be useful at all but I want to try.
Not received it yet but as soon as I do I'll post the requested info.
Sent from my Nexus S
how would i unlock the atrix.
i have and atrix that i use in the US, but i work in angola africa...how would i unlock the phone to use a local gsm sim card..in not worried about data but would like to use the phone while im out of the US..
CellUnlock.net does it, $40 but there are codes on XDA (I forgot were) that give you 50% off

[Q] Can I avoid having a forced data plan on AT&T?

My sister got an iPhone and gave her old blackjack II to my mom. My mom has never needed internet for her phone much less knows how to use it, yet AT&T has forcefully added a data plan and refuses to remove it. Is there any way around this?
The blackjack II is running windows mobile 6.1 standard, CE OS 5.2.19208. The phone was unlocked from when we traveled internationally. Is there any way to change the IMEI or regedit to change the identity of the phone? Or change the plan to a pay-as-you-go like what I have on my blackberry?
If you have a contract with AT&T, there is noway to remove data plan. It doesn't depend on the cell phone unit but your contract with At&T. If the 2-yr contract ended, u can definitely remove the data plan.
This phone has been off contract for a long time, so no worries there. AT&T, however, recently started identifying smartphones and automatically tagging on a data plan.
I talked to AT&T, turns out it is possible to change the IMEI and replace it with a dummy code, but my rep said it has the potential to wreak havoc on the phone (no calls, no data, etc.) and he has had some people corrupt their sim and need to get it replaced.
Are there any devs that can give me more info on IMEI swapping?
luckymichael said:
If you have a contract with AT&T, there is noway to remove data plan. It doesn't depend on the cell phone unit but your contract with At&T. If the 2-yr contract ended, u can definitely remove the data plan.
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Uh, I don't think so. Even though your contract with AT&T has expired, features (such as data, texting, and even the minute plan you're on) are not part of the terms of your contract and the data, specifically, is required on any phone designated as a "smartphone" whether you're in or out of contract.
What I mean by that is you can change your rate plan at any time, add or remove texting plans, change the amount of data you have on your plan, etc, but the contract itself only means that you're agreeing to stay with AT&T for a minimum of two years, phone, features, and everything else notwithstanding.
If you have a smartphone, you have to have data now, period.
(AT&T indirect dealer).
aardvarkr said:
This phone has been off contract for a long time, so no worries there. AT&T, however, recently started identifying smartphones and automatically tagging on a data plan.
I talked to AT&T, turns out it is possible to change the IMEI and replace it with a dummy code, but my rep said it has the potential to wreak havoc on the phone (no calls, no data, etc.) and he has had some people corrupt their sim and need to get it replaced.
Are there any devs that can give me more info on IMEI swapping?
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On topic:
I'm not a dev by any means, but I do know my way around AT&T's system (and everyone else's, for that matter), so IMEI swapping is relatively easy. However, flashing the IMEI won't do you too much good, because as soon as the phone boots and is connected to AT&Ts system, they know you're using a Blackjack. The OS broadcasts that info itself over the wireless network, and a flag pops up at AT&T if you don't have a data plan on that phone.
Best thing you could do for your mom would be to get her an AT&T PayGo phone similar in looks to a Blackjack (they exist), pop her SIM card in it, and just use that and sell the Blackjack. Avoid that hassle of fighting with AT&T over data. They won't budge.
EDIT: Your REP told you about using a dummy IMEI? That's rather interesting, because even if you put a false IMEI into AT&Ts system, and it takes it, AT&T will still recognize the phone as a Blackjack as soon as it's connected to their network.

[Q] Droid Bionic on other networks?

hi everyone, is this possible to use a droid bionic on a different network other than verzion?
thank you
It is technically possible on CDMA 1x networks, though it would be very difficult in actuality.
Say you wanna use it on Sprint. You'd have to flash a Sprint PRL, which is relatively easy. The hard part is that your Bionic's ESN number (the serial number that uniquely identifies the phone) would need to be registered in Sprint's database. They, however, won't just do that. You'd need to do some major social engineering to make it happen.
You could, instead of getting the ESN registered in their database, change the Bionic's ESN to that of a different Sprint phone. That, however is both difficult and illegal, not to mention that even if you do manage to change the ESN, it still might not work right. Your best bet is to stick with Verizon or buy a phone from a different provider.
-Zane

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