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Any Cingular 8125 Keyboard Tips/Tweaks?

I love the 8125 with the exception of two features, both involving the keyboard.
1. Is there anyway to increase the time that the keyboard backlight stays on? And also, to turn the keyboard backlight on as soon as you open it?
Whenever I slide the keyboard out it's a little difficult to see what's on all the keys, as the characters are a light color and they are on a light-colored background. After you start typing the backlight comes on, but you need to tap one key to get it to light up in the first place. Is there a tweak to have the keyboard light come on when you slide it out? Without having to tap a key? And once it's on, can I edit a setting or reg key to have it stay on until I slide it back in?
2. If you'll notice, the first letter typed will always capitalize as soon as you tap the spacebar after completing the first typed word. This can be nice at times if you're typing in a Word document or something similar. However, typing passwords has become downright frustrating! You definitely do NOT want any letters capitalized when you're typing in a password. Plus the fact that all passwords show only as asterisks when typing them makes the auto-capitalizion hurt more than help. I always have to switch to the SIP when typing in passwords, as I get way too many "incorrect password" popups due, I'm certain, to the capitalization issue. Then, of course, changing to number mode (double-tap the round red dot key)can also be hairy when all you see are asterisks - It's difficult to know whether or not the mode changed when you try to reverse the numbers mode.
I've searched here and on the HoFo site to no avail.
Any help or advice is appreciated!

In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.

In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset

and auto-capitalization can be changed by going to the Input control panel applet, it's on the Options tab "Capitalize beginning of sentence" or somesuch
As for keyboard backlight - no hacks known of for the Wizard :|

BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key.
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Thanks for that - obvious when you know how!

Thanks for the keyboard indicators - very helpful.
Zeboxx, I already set that option, but it appears to only apply to the SIP - not the physical keyboard.

BoycottValvoline said:
In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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Great tips, BoycottValvoline! Indicator is working fine. That's a big help.
I don't know of anyone who has managed to come up with a way to extend the keyboard backlight, though.I can't find a registry key that addresses the backlight - doesn't appear to be one.

Keyboard Indicator problem
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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I've done this on my 8125 and I get no indicator when I use the hardware keyboard.
Any help, anyone?
Thanks.

I have an 8125 and it worked fine for me.
Take another look and make sure that you entered everything exactly as shown. You'd be surprised how easy it is to be off.
For example, check Start>Settings>Personal>Input>Word Completion and make sure that "Add a space after suggested word" is NOT selected. (If it is, you may be adding a space after the DWORD value without knowing it).
Plus check your spelling - Case and punctuation must be perfect when creating the registry key.
Finally, perform a soft reset afterwards. Now check the bottom of the screen when the hardware keyboard is slid out. (Make sure first that you have a program open that requires the keyboard.) Try hitting the shift key once, then twice. Same with the Function key. Once, then twice.
Once on, the Shift key shows a "C" and makes shift active for one keystroke. Double tap it and CAPS mode is on and the "C" stays there till you tap it twice again.
Function key works the same, but you'll see a solid dot instead of a "C".

Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?

driven01 said:
Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?
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I haven't tried it, but I found this registry key on another site:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
It should be the number of seconds to stay on. Try 30.

Nah, that's on a few sites - but it doesn't work on the Wizard.
It's a hardware issue; no registry fix can do it on the Wizard.

total commander onto 8125?
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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denbobp said:
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
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If it's an .exe file, you have to install from your desktop through Active Sync. If it's a .cab file, just drag and drop it to your phone the Active Sync's "Explore" option.
Then, navigate to the file on your phone and tap it to begin the installation.

Backlight duration
Sorry to teel you guys , but the keypad backlight duration on the wizard is hardware controlled ! ! ! So no software / registry hack will lengthen / shorten the duration !

Text completion with the Wizard keyboard

Hi, does anyone know how to select the predictive text that pops up whilst typing from the hardware keyboard on the Wizard?
At the moment I can seemingly only select it by click on the screen with the stylus, which is rather inconvienient when thumb typing.
I have scoured the posts for a mention of this but to no avail, so apologies is this is a regular!
Thanks.

I did it once by accident and forget the key stroke. But I am thinking it was either a press of the tab key or the down arrow to get into the matching word list, then an enter to select the word...
Other things I found.
Pressing the red dot twice will lock the keyboard in this mode, two preses gets it unlocked. Good for entering a string of numbers.
Same pressing twice of the shift key will shift lock the keyboard. Same deal pressing twice unlocks.

You simply press the down arrow to select the word then enter? Does that not work? I seem to remember that being how it was done but I've had PT off for a while now...

That's the one!
Much obliged.

Does anyone know how to disable the predictive test? I find it more anoying than anything else.

FreakinSyco said:
Does anyone know how to disable the predictive test? I find it more anoying than anything else.
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Start -> Settings -> Input -> Word Completion -> Untick "Suggest words..."
Simple.
Just look around all the other apps in Settings, you might learn a thing or ten

Does anyone know how to delete suggestions that come up? I have noticed that too often mispelled suggestions come up with predictive text, which I think "learns" from typos that I too often make.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Changing_Device_Language
User suggested words dictionary
In addition to the system dictionaries for the suggested words, there is also a user-defined one, compiled by Windows Mobile dynamically. The location of this file is in: "\Windows\dyncompdict.dat". This file can safely be deleted. Editing the contents of this file is more difficul, please see the following for a useful application to generate a new one:
http://www.hollmen.dk/mikppc.htm
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Very quick question about Texting via Keyboard

On my XDA Mini S, when I was texting via the keyboard, after I had entered the name in the "To" field, I could just use the tab button to skip to the main message body.
This doesn't seem to work on my Vario II and I just wondered if there was a way, via the keyboard, of skipping to the message body (I have tried tab, enter, arrow keys etc..).
I know it is a really small thing but I just find it annoying when texting, if I am using the keyboard, to have to use the touch screen to skip fields.
Thanks

On my TyTN, pressing the down arrow key does exactly what you want. You may have more luck (read: get more useful answers) if you post your question again in the XDA Mini S forum
Cheers
Daniel

there is an easy way to jump between fields just use the scroll wheel
this does exactly what you want
JEREMY

Thanks guys. I just tried the scroll wheel whilst composing a new text and all it does on my Vario II (Tytn) is scroll the page down but it doesn't actually move the cursor, it just leaves it in the "To" field so if I start to type, I am still in that field. That is the same as what happens when I use the down arrow key
If it works on yours though then perhaps I have inadvertently changes some settings somewhere, god knows where though because I can't find any settings that look like they would make a difference to this.

You're not the only one with this....I just noticed it this morning...can't switch fields from the To bit to the message box...it's annoying.

Field switching
Wonder if this just applies to certain TyTn brands (ROMs)- My HTC TyTn switches field with Hard and Soft keyboard using Tab, Scroll and Down Arrow. Also looked for any settings that might change this behaviour - namely keyboard in Settings but could not in my case stop above keys from moving cursor to next field.
Mike

Oh well, not to worry, like I said, it is only a little thing but just a little annoying.
The scroll wheel & up and down arrows do skip fields in other instances, just not when composing a new text message.
I am sure I can learn to cope

might be a tmobile thing. I have the voda version and the tab button does what you need.
is it to do with the screen input method. I get some funny quirks from the keyboard if the screen input is set to anything but the soft keyboard

Yeh, I think you have probably hit the nail on the head in that it is probably a ROM thing.
Hopefully when there is an updated T-Mobile ROM they will change it (fingers crossed )

I've got a tmobile vario 2 and the scroll wheel works fine to move between fields in text message mode
jeremy

jeremymacmull said:
I've got a tmobile vario 2 and the scroll wheel works fine to move between fields in text message mode
jeremy
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How strange. My scroll wheel works fine if I am looking at messages and want to move from one to the next but all it does when I am composing a text is operate the righthand scroll bar ... it leaves the cursor in the exact same place.
My ROM is 1.21.110.3, is yours the same? (as far as I know there is only one UK T-Mobile Rom)

yeah I got the same rom
I can also switch fields when texting by using the tab button just checked
Jeremy

jeremymacmull said:
yeah I got the same rom
I can also switch fields when texting by using the tab button just checked
Jeremy
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Damn, want to swap phones (only kidding)
I might try a hard reset to see if that sorts it out but I am not sure I am annoyed enough by it yet to go to that extreme as it would involve a lot of backing up and reinstalling

I may have the solution, those of you having problems with the tab button while in text messaging have you at some point changed the behavour of the directional pad for use while in internet explorer? On my Vario II i changed mine and i had exactly the same problem as you guys, i changed it back and it was sorted, tab button worked fine. Check the below registry field. Hope this helps!
to re-enable hyperlink/form field navigation:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)

padlad said:
I may have the solution, those of you having problems with the tab button while in text messaging have you at some point changed the behavour of the directional pad for use while in internet explorer? On my Vario II i changed mine and i had exactly the same problem as you guys, i changed it back and it was sorted, tab button worked fine. Check the below registry field. Hope this helps!
to re-enable hyperlink/form field navigation:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)
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Same here, the wheel, tab and arrow keys changed fields for me before until I changed the way PIE scrolls in the registry.

padlad said:
I may have the solution, those of you having problems with the tab button while in text messaging have you at some point changed the behavour of the directional pad for use while in internet explorer? On my Vario II i changed mine and i had exactly the same problem as you guys, i changed it back and it was sorted, tab button worked fine. Check the below registry field. Hope this helps!
to re-enable hyperlink/form field navigation:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)
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Fantastic, problem solved ... thanks so much Padlad
Over the past few weeks I have installed trials for loads of different PPC software, a couple of which related to PIE tweaks so I can only guess that it must have been one of these that changed the registry setting. Thanks again

whooops yeah I think I posted that tweak up here as well in someone elses thread
doh!
so now that pie is back to scrolling between links...which is even more annoying...anyone know how to change the wheel behaviour to scroll however many lines you want it to. it could hopefully just be a reg hack or something.
thanks

vario2
I have got a vario 2 and I can press tab to do it on the keyboardor the down arrowor the scroll wheel - sorry

[REQ] UN-capitalize first letter & Soft Keys

i know this is a small thing,
but i really don't like having my message capitalize the first letter of each sentence.
is there a way to un-capitalize it - so it would be like the post i'm wiriting right now? (no CAPITAL letters).
the input settings "Capitalize first letter of sentence" doesn't seems to be working
and another request
can anyone make a cab (or something) to change the deafult home soft keys
"Phone" and "Programs" to "Phone" and "Contacts"?
but the "Contacts" will open up iContact..
thanks in advance..

[Q] Cant get rid of compact keyboard

Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI

tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !

If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!

Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.

Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice

Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z

Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655