No Ring Tone when Using A2DP - Bug or By Design? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Greetings,
I'm using a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 stereo Bluetooth headset with my TyTN and so far I have only one gripe - when the headset is connected, the ring tone somes through the handset only, not the phone itself, which means that I'll miss any incoming calls if I don't have the earbuds inserted.
Also, the ring tone sometimes does not start until about 20 seconds after the display has started to announce the incoming call.
I tend to have the earbuds hanging from my neck if I'm not listening to music, and the ring tone is not loud enough to be heard that way.
I suspect this may be by design, because it's assumed that a stereo Bluetooth headset is always in/on the ears when connected to the phone, but I want to use the 970 as my only headset even when I'm not about to listen to music.
Is there any way to get a ring tone from both headset and phone?
/POL

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Anyone figure this one out yet? I have the same problem...

same here, anyone find a solution please post, I think I can change it from the registry I will check it.

Can I ask you folks a question relating to the use of the headset Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 with the HTC Hermes...do you get all the functionality ie caller ID, the ability to accept and reject the call, compatible with mediaplayer etc.
I have a concern that with the headset not being a HTC product, perhaps some of the Sony functionality may not work with the handset.
Thx

From my experience the ringtones will not come to the speaker if you use the headset as wireless stereo. I only use the headset as handsfree, which makes the ringtones go through the phone.

I used the DS970 for two week with my O2 Trion,feature like Caller Display is No any problem,But when using media player sometime it may out of control, like cann't accept call and control volume or stop.
And the sound quality is acceptable,but it will stop few second after 1 or minutes, I have change the regedit.
May I know is there any way to fix it?

Still no solution?
Anyone come up with a solution to this problem? It really bugs me not to get a ringtone from the unit itself, just thru headset... Works just fine with my old mono handsfree, would be great to have it in the stereo heaseat to...

i have the same problem
hello i have the same problem
the ring sound is only on my headset i have tested with 1.13.097fr and now 1.13.234fr if anybody have the ring on the phone with a headset stereo a2dp cang give us is configuration rom and other soft for the bluetooth.
thank and sorry for my english
juste a little frenchy

There seams as if there's no solution in sight, I got the exact same problem, also with HBH-DS970 and with Jetware Mobile's "Hands-free extension" installed.
I'm still running WM5, anyone who have tried WM6?
/Fluff

Same "design feature" here with my HBH-DS970 and HTC S710 WM6 Smartphone, so it's not ROM, device or OS version specific. I would suggest this is by design.

I'm pretty sure this is by design since thats how it works on my BT8010. Its stereo so it seems to make sense all sounds go through headset although it would be nice if it was an option. The BT8010 has a button on the headset to take it out of music mode so then they will go through the phone but I guess that doesn't help any of you out much.
Another option would be to just uncheck wireless stereo in the pairing and just check it back when you want to do wirelss stereo.

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Help with Bluetooth Headset!!

Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
I actually had an oportunity to try out the voice levels and sound is awful! I also tried to connect it to my SE T610 and it refused and it did the same when I tried to connect it to my Toshiba M200 tablet PC as in both cases it never asked for the passkey...
I am begining to think that they must be faulty??
But becuase I have never had a BT headset before so I'm not sure if I am doing something stupid!
Andy
I have managed to try a SE BT headset with my MDA Pro and it did work and activate voice command. So it would seem that the headset is faulty. Does anyone have any ideas before I send it back?
Andy
Please!! Is there anyone here who can comment on whether they think these are broken or if I am just incompetent!
If they are broken then I need to send them back really soon...
FWIW, my Jabra BT330 and the SE HBH-662 just need a single quick click to activate the voice dial, but these Plantronics Pulsar 590A things I just got (which are fandabidosi by the way!) need a prolonged press to do the same.
Have you tried keeping your finger on the button for a while?
Ferg.
andykemp said:
Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
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Just looked at the instructions for the bluetake i-phone (bt450rx),
(got them myself for xmas)
and it does not say that you can connect to the phone for voice control,
however you should be able to hang up from the headset.
i have got the k-jam (wizard) and can dial from the k-jam and hangup from the headset.
voice control may not be available because the new bluetooth stereo headset's are ready for AVRCP (Audio Video Remote Control Profile).
the older bluetake headset bt420rx can be used for voice control but do not have AVRCP function.
I hope i am wrong, but it may be the answer you have not been looking for.
Hmm... That sounds bad...
I only have a few days left to return it and don't know whether to get a replacement or to go for a different headset?
i like the idea of being able to play/pause/f-foward/rewind via the headset(when bt v2 upgrade is available), because music playback is more important to me than voice dial.
of course if you can send it back, then perhaps just wait until bt v2 is available, and then buy a headset for the uses you require it for.(wish there was an emotion with cross eyes) LOL
I know what you mean but I would still be able to use voice command!!
Does anyone else have the 450Rx and a universal and could test it for me?
if you do prove me wrong (and i hope you do) please let me know.
answering this problem further,
the bluetake i-phono mini headset cannot be used for voice command,
however the motorola ht820 can be used for voice control.
Had similar issues with my headset (not the same type). In the end, I had enable secure mode on the universal, pair the devices, select serial port and then immediately initiate the voice dial, otherwise it didn't work.
Gareth
I decided to play it safe and returned it back to Expansys for a refund. When someone else gets a set of stereo headphones and A2DP is out... and crucially they can confirm it works! Then I'll buy a new one!
Cheers
Andy
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
you may have already tried this, but just in case you haven't,
install and run the three files for either "bt off", "bt on", or "bt toggle",
this will switch all audio to the bt headset or away,
of course quality is not good, but at least no cables.
ps. if the headset is switch off and you put bt on, you will get an on screen error message.
aliendad said:
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
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Do they come with this cable as standard?
EDIT: Did a search, and they do.... might just buy them now and sell my Sony EX-71's.... would they we at least the same in terms of sound quality? It's the thing people talk about least with these devices!
So lemme see if I got this right.... even before I get A2DP installed on my Exec, I can listen to perfect music using the cable, and also use the hphones as a bluetooth headset as well? Will the music still pause etc when a call comes in?
Just bought a pair of HT820's on Ebay there.... £38, not too bad. Should get about £25-30 for two pairs of existing headphones, so well please.

tomtom & bt headset

I was wondering if it is possible to get the instructions from tomtom to come through my bt headset instead of my kjams internal speakers, i it is could someone PLEASE point me in the right direction, i have the bt headset paired and working but can not figure this out.
Search for and download BTaudio. That will put all audio through your headset. If you get a call though the ringtone might deafen you.
bittermormon said:
If you get a call though the ringtone might deafen you.
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I'm not sure if most BT headsets are the same, but mine has a "Ringtone" of its own. Not really a ring tone but it makes noises, if that makes sense.
Anyway, if you have a headset that beeps, farts or makes any other noise, then setting the ringtone to off might be an idea.
To be honest, I have never really sussed the volume controls out on the wizard though, LOL.
The BTaudio app sends all the sounds through the headset. So if your phone rings you hear the phones ringtone rather than the headset ringtone. At least thats how it is on my MDA with a Plantronics 510. Anyway, you could just use somethign like phonealarm and have a seperate profile with a lower ringtone for when you're using tomtom.

Bluetooth headset problem

I just bought a headset for my Atom Exec and I can't work it all out, I want to listen to music from the memory card so I have set the bluetooth to Hands Free, Wireless Stereo and headset, all three are ticked. All is working fine but the only problem I have is when the phone rings you can only here it through the stereo headphones which makes sence but I can see this causing problems if I put the headphones down, I will miss calls as I want hear the phone ringing. Is there a way to make the phone ring also threw the speaker on the phone as well while using the headphones?
Unfortunately I don't think so. If you turn the Stereo Headset profile on all sound is routed to the headset. If someone knows how it would be great.
What you can do instead is set the phone to vibra + ring mode so that if you don't have the headset on, at least the phone will still shake.
hi Seal,
which bluetooth headset did you get? i'm asking because i just got the atom (not exec) and can't get the BT to work as a wireless headset - it only works when making calls.
also, you mentioned 'wireless stereo' checkbox, i don't see this option in the atom but it could be an exec feature.
thanks.
Hi, I bought the Plantronics, I use them every day and love them, it is such a great thing to not have wires hanging around.
http://www.plantronics.com/australia/aus/products/cat5180067/cat5620033/prod29780013
"I has an Atom", and I also have a mono, ordinary Bluetooth headset (Planex BT-03HS).
Seal: try turning off the Wireless Stereo profile, then getting this program called BlueMusic by Teksoft - it has an option you can uncheck that will allow the ringtone to come through its original source instead, while still routing music through your BT.
Yes, the program can do this even in unlimited trial mode - however, it only puts your music back on the BT band after a call in full-mode. I have no idea if this will work on stereo headphones like yours, but it's worth a shot.
Slamming_Sammy: With BlueMusic I can pipe stuff from TCPMP to bluetooth headset - which supports only handsfree - just fine, whilst still not missing a call. BlueMusic emulates the A2DP protocol so your phone doesn't have to. There's actually a free binary out there called BTAudio (which Bluemusic is based on), but its less stable than Bluemusic when it comes to disconnects and receiving calls.
Oh, and by the way, the Atom does support Wireless Stereo (A2DP). However, you can ONLY see it if your bluetooth headset has the profile as well (mine doesn't by the way). AFAIK only stereo headsets have this; even the newest BT2.0 mono headsets don't.
thanks a lot Ultimate. I was just about to try btaudio which by the way, works great, so I won't try bluemusic yet. so you're saying if my BT headphone is A2DP capable then I wouldn't need to run btaudio to route audio to my headset?
thanks.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Bluetooth stereo headsets are expensive, tho, AND the Atom is known to have dodgy A2DP support (except with BT2.0 devices), so you might want to hold out on the purchase.

Bluetooth Handsfree problem: answering from the handset

HI all,
I got a t-mobile Vario II and have a plantronics 655 handsfree. I have searched the forum but found nothing that answers my problem.
I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and when the handsfree is paired the sound to come through the handsfree. I have tried a few handsfree kits but none seem to work and all the calls come through the phone until i pull the handsfree out of my ear hit answer n put it back in. Am i missing something? I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and talk through my handsfree. When i make a phone call however from the phone it works fine and the sound comes through the handsfree like it should.
I read something about a handsfree profile...where is that? i don't have a handsfree profile option on my phone. Is it an add-on. I tried the handsfree with my ericsson phone and when u answer from the phone it asks if i want the audio through the handset or the handsfree..
hellpppppp...its driving me madd lol
I Take it no one knows the answer to this or has created a patch? Does everyone answer there phone from the answer button on the bluetooth handsfree then? ??
What you are trying to do, is contrary to the feature designed into your dialer. When you answer the phone call from the phone instead of the connected headset, you obviously wanted to talk via the phone not the headset so that is where it routes the call. You can get it back to the headset after you answered on your phone by selecting the menu option and selecting "Turn Handsfree On".
similar issue
I have an ATT branded 8525, and a Motorola H550.
I'm using the built in voice dialer, as I really don't feel like shelling out any more money for voice commander, when I'm paying for the spb products I have (pocketplus, mobile shell, and phone suite).
With other phones, I could use the phone (by hand) to dial a number, while wearing the BT headset, and it would automatically put the conversation on the phone.
This doesn't.
Also, when I receive a call, I don't get the ringtones I have selected for specific callers, just a generic beep.
Morgan
That issue is actually unrelated. The issue that arnie_ahu has is trying to do something differently than the phone design. However, your issue is a real issue. Dialing on the phone and pressing call should send the call to the headset if it is connected properly. The ony conclusion I can think of is that it is not connected properly as a headset.
In my experience, this is Bluetooth device specific. When I use my Jawbone, I can answer on the phone and the conversation will be on the Jawbone. However, if I use a Plantronics 320 and answer on the phone, the conversation will be on the phone.
The reason why I answer using the phone instead of using the Bluetooth headset is out of courtesy to the caller. For some reason, when I answer with a Bluetooth device, the caller hears a very loud sound that is reminiscent of a fog horn. I have experienced this with multiple phones and headsets. I am guessing this is related to the Bluetooth handshake.
edited: spelling correction.
It may be (for me) because I am using mp3 ringtones on a mono earpiece.
From what I have found on line, that won't work with WM5, which sucks, because it worked on my old piece of crap nokia 6230.
Why oh why must this be so hard?
Now I have to try and convert the mp3 ringtones I made from full songs to something the phone will use.

No ringtone via bluetooth

Searched the Blackstone forums but did not find any post/thread regarding this particular problem .....
I'm a new Blackstone owner (and a newbie on this forum). Love the device but one major issue I have is that ringtones dont come through via the BT headset. I have assigned different ringtones to people and based on the tone of an incoming call, I should be able to screen calls without looking at the phone ..... or so I thought.
My phone : Blackstone (ROM 1.14.405.X). Dec/7 hotfix from HTC installed (since ROM is older than 1.19)
My BT : Jabra BT3030 stereo headset (AVRCP works fine)
Can anyone please help ?
Thanks !!
Try assigning a long ringtone as there is a lag and this may be cutting off the ringtone
Thanks winwiz. Tried that without luck. I only get the default beep-beep in the BT headset warning me of the incoming call ......
Bump !!
Can anyone of you folks help me with this ?
I tried a few tricks - set a looooong ringtone (2 minute song) ...... selected a single ringtone for all contacts ...... but no luck, still get only beep-beep via the BT stereo headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Funny thing though - music comes through fine on the BT (A2DP works fine) and I'm also able to control music without issues (AVRCP also works fine).
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!
Cheers !!
SLVRstone said:
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Can anyone of you folks help me with this ?
I tried a few tricks - set a looooong ringtone (2 minute song) ...... selected a single ringtone for all contacts ...... but no luck, still get only beep-beep via the BT stereo headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Funny thing though - music comes through fine on the BT (A2DP works fine) and I'm also able to control music without issues (AVRCP also works fine).
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!
Cheers !!
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I'm a little out of touch with the very latest gear - BUT - would the headset output the ringtone?? Surely it just has it's own ringtone that is the only one it can play, whenever a call comes in?
It seems to me that to send the .mp3 file over bluetooth to a device that doesn't seem big enough to have a full codec supply would tax the Bluetooth bandwidth somewhat!
SLVRstone said:
(A2DP works fine)
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A2DP is used for stereo music, not for talking. Maybe its just not possible (with your headset). But I'm quite unexperienced with bluetooth headsets .
Riceburner said:
I'm a little out of touch with the very latest gear - BUT - would the headset output the ringtone?? Surely it just has it's own ringtone that is the only one it can play, whenever a call comes in?
It seems to me that to send the .mp3 file over bluetooth to a device that doesn't seem big enough to have a full codec supply would tax the Bluetooth bandwidth somewhat!
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johnpatcher said:
A2DP is used for stereo music, not for talking. Maybe its just not possible (with your headset). But I'm quite unexperienced with bluetooth headsets .
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Hello Riceburner .... today's Bluetooth headsets do indeed play your phone ringtone. But it should have A2DP feature that allows music to stream in and your phone should also have A2DP to "send" the music to your headset.
The .mp3 file does not get sent to the bluetooth .... the mp3 plays on your phone as a ringtone when you get a call and the A2DP feature then streams it to your BT headset where you then hear the ringtone.
This can have a lag of even a few seconds, hence the suggestion from winwiz a few posts back to use a long playing ringtone.
johnpatcher - A2DP is indeed not for talking, but it is necessary for the ringtone to play in your headset until you answer the call at which time the traditional bluetooth kicks in to handle voice.
Cheers !!
Can anyone help ?
Here is a consolidation of the issue and my attempts to overcome :
My phone : Blackstone (ROM 1.14.405.X). ROM date Oct/24/2008
Any hotfixes : Yes - since ROM is older than 1.19, applied the Dec/7/2008 hotfix from HTC that addresses screen freeze during multi clicks.
My Bluetooth headset : Jabra BT3030 stereo headset (A2DP and AVRCP works fine with the Touch HD phone)
Problem : Phone ringtone does not play through the BT headset. I get only a "beep-beep" on the BT headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Tried the following :
1) set a long ringtone (2 minute long song) as suggested by winwiz. No luck
2) Selected a single ringtone for all contacts. Still no luck
3) Paired the exact same BT headset with another phone (symbian OS) and it works perfectly - A2DP, AVRCP as well as phone ringtone comes through via the headset. Frustrated !!!
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!
Could this be a WinMo issue as opposed to a Blackstone bug ? Found the following thread ........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310438
One way to find out ...... can folks spare a few minutes to post their experience in using A2DP heasets with the Blackstone - were you successfully able to hear ringtones via your headset ?
Cheers !!
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Can folks oblige by posting their experience using A2DP headsets with the Blackstone ? Were you able to hear ringtones via your headset ?
Thanks !!
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sorry bringing this up again
but got EXACTLY the same problem here
tryied the suggestions too, without success
any tips?
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I have a BT headset too that can A2DP. (SE DS-980) I don't think its meant for it to transfer ringtones as what one poster mentioned. Anyway, whenever my phone rings, I can hear the tone from my phone and a common single tone from the headset then the contact info is displayed in the LCD so I know who's calling. Another option is if you have MSVC, you can set it to alert you who is calling and only through the BT headset when it connected. That way you'd know who's calling you.
kieboy said:
I have a BT headset too that can A2DP. (SE DS-980) I don't think its meant for it to transfer ringtones as what one poster mentioned. Anyway, whenever my phone rings, I can hear the tone from my phone and a common single tone from the headset then the contact info is displayed in the LCD so I know who's calling. Another option is if you have MSVC, you can set it to alert you who is calling and only through the BT headset when it connected. That way you'd know who's calling you.
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thanks kieboy
guess i'll install MSVC
I use my A2DP headset to listen to music on my embedded helmet speakers while in my bike. And of course, to answer calls too. So, looking to the phones screen isn´t a option and the custom ring tones would be VERY usefull
but, if there's no other work around...
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