Signal Strength Variations on O2 network - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi all,
Me again! for now I've decided to use my new Xda Exec and also use my 'working for outlook' Xda 2s.
I live around the Heathrow area, so always good signal strength and availability - can't remember the last time I saw no signal or 1 bar etc.
The Exec, even though a little bulky, fits into my jeans pocket. I then started noticing I'd get the 'bleep' in my Bluetooth earpiece indicating no signal. So I now carry the Exec in my hand or it's on the centre console in the car.
IT STILL drops signal every so often!
I cant beleive it! it will always drop on my regular commute along the M40 and M25 & M1 - it drops in other places to.. these are the SAME roads I've always used and my various Xda2i PPC's have never dropped. The Xda2s shows a signal of 2-4 bars in these areas whilst the Exec is showing no signal and trying to find one!
Anyone else get anything similar? I'm on the latest ROM version, the Exec has never been dropped or bashed etc - it really is as brand new out the box. I've installed nothing on it apart from having it in corporate mode.
I'm thinking to just sell it off and get a Mini S or a Hermes off contract or dump HTC altogether and get a HP 6915...
Cheers!
Dennis! West London UK!

This could be due to the speed of switching over from 3G to 2G.
Do you use the 3G service?
I use this PDA for the internet over WiFi and only very rarely do I use the expensive GPRS.
On the settings for the phone change the "Auto" over to "GSM" to drop 3G connectivity.

Hi Preditor,
Thanks for that little tip - I've changed the setting as you've suggested and I'll monitor it over the next few days.
As yet I have no need to use the 3G network - I'm evaluating the best way for me to be 'connected' whilst on the move, but It's not a pressing requirement really..
Fingers crossed it works!
Cheers!
Dennis! West London UK!!

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Phone signal strength problems - anyone else had problems

I have moved from a Nokia 7610 to a Wizard (on O2). I have fallen in love with it for all sorts of reasons.
The major hassle so far is signal strength. I'm not sure if I have a dud phone? For the last month I have run the Nokia and Wizard in parallel. I am constantly finding myself out of range or with one bar of signal. The phone doesn't function reliably with a single bar. Most irritating is that this happens at home also. (The nokia was on O2 also).
If there is not a solution to this I may have to go back to the nokia and accept what I was trying to avoid - having to carry a phone and a PDA.
Thanks - Kneale
do you have another pda phone you can run it against?
reason i ask is dont forget that nokia phones have more bars than the jams do
so for instance, 8 bars in nokia (full) would be eqiv to 5 bars in the jam (full) if that makes sense
ignore the numbers at the top, i dont know the exact number of bars
Thanks. No - I don't have another PDA phone. I realise there is a difference in number of signal bars. I'm simply not getting a good enough signal in to make it functional as a phone.
I work as a doctor and need a 100% reliable phone more than a PDA. Just beginning to get into all the software / music / video / etc. aspects of it however. Would find it hard to give up now!
Kneale
Dont expect this phone is going to have premium reception... the only phone I found exceptional is Sony Ericsson Z600 so far...
People said 1.12.0 GSM firmware would have better reception. You might try to upgrade your ROM. I think O2 provided latest official firmware as well, so you might wanna test with it.
Yes - my cda is the same. My SE 700i has a far better reception. The O2 seems to fall out of range alot - I have to out it into flight mode on then off!
I also posted a while ago that the signal strength is pretty poor. Never had much trouble with my nokia but in a few places eg work im pretty much on the 1 bar and have lost the signal on one occasion.
Thanks for this. Finally got so irritated with it that today I visited the O2 shop and then spoke to the on-line customer service. Both were very good.
Bottom line is that they are sending me out a replacement to try in case I have a dud. I'll let you know how I get on.
Kneale
i think i will need to retract what i said!
for the last 24 hours, my reception goes down and then nothing, just the dots
have to go into flight mode then out and i get my bars back
Of cource, about signal stregth, nokia is the best.
But you can improve signal stregth of your pda phone by switching it to manual network searching mode.
Go to phone/ settings/ networks/ manual.
oainot said:
Of cource, about signal stregth, nokia is the best.
But you can improve signal stregth of your pda phone by switching it to manual network searching mode.
Go to phone/ settings/ networks/ manual.
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How will that improve signal strength exactly ?
knowsleyroader said:
oainot said:
Of cource, about signal stregth, nokia is the best.
But you can improve signal stregth of your pda phone by switching it to manual network searching mode.
Go to phone/ settings/ networks/ manual.
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How will that improve signal strength exactly ?
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It doesn't, but it can speed up the re-acquisition of cell (i.e. less search time).

TYTN - Weak WIFI Signal

Hello All,
I am wondering if you can help. I have a Linksys N router at home which is supposed to be 4x the area of coverage from a g. It is in my basement and the signal in my bedrooms is very weak. I purchased a Linksys signal booster and plugged on the first floor to repeat the signal to the bedrooms.
Here is the problem: I use my TYTN on the first floor close to the basement window and the signal is ok but when I move farther on the first floor the signal becomes very weak - not to mention how weak it is upstairs in the bedrooms.
I tried it with my Univeral and it is a killer full bar signal. This leads me to believe it is either my wifi is busted on my TYNT in terms of reception or they have very weak WIFI antenas. Can someone confirm if they have a similar problem?
Thanks,
Gilbert
yes i think there is a problem with the signal
he is very weak!
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
At least it got better WiFi-signal than the Wizard...
Change the mode to 'best performance' and try again.
Cheerio
Howard
El_Mar1ach1 said:
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
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I don't know about Universal, but I have a BlueAngel and it doesn't have better wifi signal than Hermes. Hermes a lot better for me, mine is an HTC TyTN (WWE) #628.
FWIW I have both Blue Angel and Wizard devices -- the Wizard's WiFi is far superior to the BA. The BA can barely pick up the signal for my office network, but the Wizard can connect to it from outside.
You should try to adjust the battery vs. performance slider in wifi settings
and report if the signal is stronger then.
I haventh had the opportunity to test the wlan yet myself.
Guys, i have use ALL HTC devices so far and i can surely say that their wifi chipsets in terms of signal strength is totally crap( i have made lots of tests comparing to other PDA brands).
I haven't used an HTC Hermes so far but i am afraid( judging from your saying) that the problem still persists.
I've done a quick test: opened wififofum on BlueAngel and Hermes, and walked around the house.
BA found 13APs, while TyTN found 22. At some point BA was seeing 7/13 while TyTN 11/22.
So, TyTN is far superior
Well here is the deal.
I tried my universal in my bedroom and it has full bar and then tried it with my Tytn and it has one bar!!!!!
I have a linksys N router in my basement and a signal booster in the first floor and this is adquate to boost the signal to my second floor bedrooms. But instead, all other devices have excellent reception but my tytn has one or two bars to the max when i put it in best performance mode. I am running a surge on wifi signals in my house and it is still weak.
WTF
Gilbert
Sorry If I'm kinda jumping or hijack this thread. Although this thread I guess is better than I start a new thread. My Prophet also sucks when receiving WIFI signals. I have an Alpine, an 02 Zinc, a nintendo DS, a laptop. dudes, my prophet couldn't even receive signal on the next room adjacent to where my router is. but for everything else in my devices, it can go as far as outside my house. probably 15meters away from the wifi, but can still browse. my prophhet can only receive wifi signals if i put my phropet besides the router itself. then slowly moving away but not exceeding 10 FEET. I mean what the hell is the wlan for if it ain't going further than 10 eet from the router. in my devices here's from the farthest to the weakest:
1. My Laptop of course: can still watch youtube outside the house.
2. My Alpine: dudes the signal rocks! even thru my inside gates.
3. My Zinc: slightly nearer than my alpine.
4. My NDS: kinda halfway than my Alpine.
5. My Prophet: worse: you should be beside the router. then why i don't i just open my dang PC and browse from it.
I have all these device with me.
for about sometime I also had the nokia n91. wifi signal's pretty good too. I just sold it out since when browsing heavy sites, the explorer turns off. I freakinly hate my prophet for it's ridiculous wifi connection. Currently I'm flashing all available rom there is just to test my WIFI reception. Hope you guys observe my tests. thanks!
What I want to say is that the wifi singnal has matters with the barrier in the space and the network condition itself. Beside that ,I made a test before,the wifi singal on WM6.1 was better than WM6.Maybe you can try to update your OS version.

3G Coverage, hows yours?

Ive been a happy orange customer for years, their 3G service ive found to be great in my area.
However since joining tmobile (cannot fault the data charges and their web and walk plan, spot on) ive found that i got 3G prob once upstairs in my house but havent had it since then.
I can always access the internet with the G symbol but was just wondering how you guys are doing and what you have noticed? Good 3G coverage?
I have a SPV M3100 and thats on Orange and thats got 3G at my work and at home, full Signal. Went into the street check and that says i should have a decent 3G coverage at both work and home to.
Any suggestions? Ive checked in the Phone and Band settings and ive set it to auto or manually and its still the same.
Thanks
Ran some tests...
I thought id check to see if the G was perhaps not updating to 3G as it should do, being an owner of SPVs and other HTC phones in the past i know there can be issues with windows mobile updating things sometimes.
Determind to see the speed difference I used my Ameo I went onto www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest and entered Wireless 3G and this is the results i got.
187 kilobits per second
Communcations: 187 kilobits per second
Storage: 22.8 kilobits per second
1mb file download: 44.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Mediocre
Looks to me like its def GPRS rather than 3G.
Then i used my SPV M3100:
271.9 kilobits per second
Communcations: 271.9 kilobits per second
Storage: 33.2 kilobits per second
1mb file download: 30.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Mediocre
Its very strange as the SPV M3100 seemed to fly compared to the Ameo.
Its not a major speed difference and the fact im on the Web n Walk tariff is great as the costs are all inclusive in the montly charge but i do use my Ameo on my laptop as a modem and it can be painfully slow sometimes.
Will be interested to see what results other people get and also if i was to get the 3G icon at the top of my Ameo screen, what speed that would report back.
mmm!
tomchap said:
I thought id check to see if the G was perhaps not updating to 3G as it should do, being an owner of SPVs and other HTC phones in the past i know there can be issues with windows mobile updating things sometimes.
Determind to see the speed difference I used my Ameo I went onto www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest and entered Wireless 3G and this is the results i got.
187 kilobits per second
Communcations: 187 kilobits per second
Storage: 22.8 kilobits per second
1mb file download: 44.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Mediocre
Looks to me like its def GPRS rather than 3G.
Then i used my SPV M3100:
271.9 kilobits per second
Communcations: 271.9 kilobits per second
Storage: 33.2 kilobits per second
1mb file download: 30.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Mediocre
Its very strange as the SPV M3100 seemed to fly compared to the Ameo.
Its not a major speed difference and the fact im on the Web n Walk tariff is great as the costs are all inclusive in the montly charge but i do use my Ameo on my laptop as a modem and it can be painfully slow sometimes.
Will be interested to see what results other people get and also if i was to get the 3G icon at the top of my Ameo screen, what speed that would report back.
mmm!
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i am also with T-mobile, and i got 1.2Mb per sec, that's 1200 kilobits per second, that is the speed you should get if you have HSDPA coverage.
Not sure where you are, but on Cingular USA. the phone switches to whichever signal is stronger. Well in reality, if 3g signal is weak and gprs/edge signal is real strong phone may switch to Gprs/edge.
You may want to set thephone setting network band to use only 3g (wcdma). I do that because in my house, sometimes the phone switches to edge, but if i force the network band to 3g it always stays on 3g and still works great. (again tho i have unlimited data)...
just a thought
eagle 1 said:
Not sure where you are, but on Cingular USA. the phone switches to whichever signal is stronger. Well in reality, if 3g signal is weak and gprs/edge signal is real strong phone may switch to Gprs/edge.
You may want to set thephone setting network band to use only 3g (wcdma). I do that because in my house, sometimes the phone switches to edge, but if i force the network band to 3g it always stays on 3g and still works great. (again tho i have unlimited data)...
just a thought
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yes, that's what i do, always on 3G, never go to GPRS
No WCDMA in the Ameo?
Im in the Uk and according to the Street Check postcode check i have great coverage at home and a good coverage at work but not according to my Ameo i dont!
I have checked in my Start...Settings...Phone...Band section and this is what i have:
Select your network type.
GSM or Auto (on my SPV M3100 i also have the option of WCDMA but i DONT have this on my Ameo??)
Select your GSM/UTMS band.
Auto or
GSM(900 + 1800) + UMTS(2100) or
GSM(1900 + 850) + UMTS(1900+850)
I have these both set onto Auto and still the G appears. Im aware that it will search and use the strongest band eg GPRS if the 3G signal is weak but im not getting 3G at all.
Any more ideas what it could be? Possibly a faulty phone? Ive emailed tmobile to see what they say, they have a 5 working day backlog of emails to respond to at the mo but they have been good at helping me out before.
Thanks for the info so far, appreciated.
You should also be able to set it to wcdma via a registry edit or an app that sets the band. Cingular in the US hides the network band on the hermes (8525), but a change to the registry makes it display.
Check the hermes forum for the registry or just go over to hermes forum and search for an app by Daniel Herro, he made two of them Bandswitch and Comm Mgr Pro. Comm Mgr pro is the newer app and you should be able to set it to AUto, Gprs or Wcdma..
Sorry I can't remember the exact reg key. But it should be easy to find over at the hermes forum.
Good Luck
Thanks for your help guys, got comm mgr pro and it seems to of done the trick.
Did the test again:
1.2 megabits per second
Communcations: 1.2 megabits per second
Storage: 149.5 kilobytes per second
1mb file download: 6.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Good
Alot lot better! Would also appear that tmobile have a faster 3G connection compared to orange.
All i would say is that is annoying that it seems like it doesnt auto switch like my SPV M3100 does.
Having to choose 3G and then 2G when i dont have a 3G signal may become quite tedious, but i suppose i will find out when im in areas that work and areas that dont and i will become accustomed to tweaking as appropriate.
Getting used to being without the luxory of autoswitching with my M3100 will take some getting used to.
Thanks again for your help, if anyone has any software where the Autoswitching of bands works then please let me know as mines not doing it.
Cheers
tomchap said:
Thanks for your help guys, got comm mgr pro and it seems to of done the trick.
Did the test again:
1.2 megabits per second
Communcations: 1.2 megabits per second
Storage: 149.5 kilobytes per second
1mb file download: 6.9 seconds
Subjective rating: Good
Alot lot better! Would also appear that tmobile have a faster 3G connection compared to orange.
All i would say is that is annoying that it seems like it doesnt auto switch like my SPV M3100 does.
Having to choose 3G and then 2G when i dont have a 3G signal may become quite tedious, but i suppose i will find out when im in areas that work and areas that dont and i will become accustomed to tweaking as appropriate.
Getting used to being without the luxory of autoswitching with my M3100 will take some getting used to.
Thanks again for your help, if anyone has any software where the Autoswitching of bands works then please let me know as mines not doing it.
Cheers
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I have DOPOD U1000, and it does the auto switching for me, i can also set the WCDMA in my phone setting as well.
Just done that test and got 947kbps which isn't too bad really. I was going to say, when I joined t-mob, if the coverage map wasn't accurate and didn't live upto expectations, I had 14days to return the phone. But I'm chuffed with it. Shame they've not got many masts along the west-coast mainline - I had a right internmittent connection on the train yesterday. Still, the chap next to me was impressed when I downloaded the BBC News Video Headlines from their website and played in back, all in about 30secs!
wu5262 said:
I have DOPOD U1000, and it does the auto switching for me, i can also set the WCDMA in my phone setting as well.
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Im guessing that tmobile took it out then? mmm. Hopefully when Windows Mobile 6 is released as an upgrade for the Ameo then there may be some sort of fix in there.
For the moment itll have to do as it is.
Digital.Diablo said:
Just done that test and got 947kbps which isn't too bad really. I was going to say, when I joined t-mob, if the coverage map wasn't accurate and didn't live upto expectations, I had 14days to return the phone. But I'm chuffed with it. Shame they've not got many masts along the west-coast mainline - I had a right internmittent connection on the train yesterday. Still, the chap next to me was impressed when I downloaded the BBC News Video Headlines from their website and played in back, all in about 30secs!
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I agree with what your saying, the coverage could be better but what they do have is pretty good at the moment. Impressive stuff!
A few of my friends have used my Ameo as a modem and they are surpised at how easily it worked and the it didnt drop a connection, it just worked.
At least I can use the 3G aspect of it as well! Digital.Diablo have you got the Comm Mgr Plus software installed or does yours have the option to swtich in the phone settings?
You can also set comm mgr pro to Auto Select band as well. THen with the various dialogue's you can see the which signal's are available
tomchap,
I've got just standard comm manager installed, and not had problems with the 3G aspect of it so far. The only issues I've got are:-
When going from 3G to wireless lan it doesn't appear to update the default route on the phone, so I have to disable the phone, wait about 60secs, then reenable the phone. Disconnecting the 3G session doesn't seem to work so well, and the phone doesnt seem to be enableable for about 60secs afte disabling. I suspect the routing issue is a WM5 problem, rather than Ameo specific, but it does cause MMS receipt/sending to fail if I'm wifi'd rather than 3G'd to the internet (again, I'm guessing the T-Mobile MMS Servers are inaccesssible from the public 'net). Slightly annoying, but livable with. I may try commmanager+ tonight to see if its any better than the standard one.
HTC X7500 with vodafone ITA. Well with HTC P3600 I always had 3G connection at home even when it was weak, while with Advantage it seems to prefer strong gprs signal...so it switches to 3G signal rarely. I hope it is a SW metter so that with next radio upgrade, its sensibility could be improved...
asci said:
HTC X7500 with vodafone ITA. Well with HTC P3600 I always had 3G connection at home even when it was weak, while with Advantage it seems to prefer strong gprs signal...so it switches to 3G signal rarely. I hope it is a SW metter so that with next radio upgrade, its sensibility could be improved...
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why don't you just force the connection to 3G all the time? that's what i do anyway.
ive been playin with comm mmgr plus and if its set to auto, 99% of the time the G is replaced by a cross n the signal strength indicator has a cross through it to.
to be honest, im not impressed with the intermittant some times it works n sometimes it doesnt mentality of the 3g. im hoping the next rom upgrade or major software update fixes it as im sure its a sofware issue. i have asked tmobile via email about it to so will see what they say.
thanks for your help so far.
I am most unfortunate, in that here in my town in Norfolk, (according to T-mobiles "Street Check") I don't have a 3G signal. So all of my data useage is through gprs. I have to say that I'm pleased with the speed that I do get for gprs.
Did u see Chris Moyles this morning?
I tried CommMgr+ last night but it just seemed to make Ameo REALLY unstable, and the program kept crashing out. I've uninstalled it!

We should complain to Sony about weak signal.

I email Sony a complain about weak signal and this is what I got in respond:
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Xperia Support.
We don't have a list of the newest updates for this phone, but I have heard nothing of your issue before, it is worth trying a reset if there is no update available.
Try resetting the hardware. To do this, hold down the two keys on the front with silver "-" signs. While you are pressing them, take the stylus and press the reset button through the top opening through the casing of the stylus.
What I also suggest is resetting the phone software via "Clear Storage".
To do this, select Start icon, then Settings, then tap the System tab. You will see Clear Storage in the top right corner.
1. The Sony Ericsson Update Service is a free download that can be found at www.sonyericsson.com, after you click on "Support" and then choose your phone model.
2. Select your country and region.
3. Under the section titled”Software and Set Up” choose, “Sony Ericsson Update Service”.
4. Download the application to your computer and install the program.
Once you have installed the program and run it, it will give you instructions on how to install it on the computer and how to run it on the phone afterwards. Please make sure the phone and the USB cable are not connected to the PC throughout the installation process. The Update Service is meant to update the software on the phone.
If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at SonyEricsson.com/X1 or call us at 1-877-7XPERIA.
Dunno what's going on here, I can't complaint: my reception is GREAT in both X1a and X1i
You should start a poll on this thread
1- Reception GREAT
2- Reception OK but...
3- Reception SUCKS
Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...
signal is temprmental. i am not sure it is down to the phone though
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Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...
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Same for me..
Compared to my Motorola Q9h Global, my Xperia X1a (and my Nokia E71-2) appear to have fewer bars in the same place.
I don't want to insult anybody by suggesting that this is the case, but I hope we're not assuming that the Xperia has poor RF signal capture just because it's not showing as many bars as another device.
In my part of the world there is a notorious dead zone between Culpeper VA and Orange VA. There are very few phones that can hold an AT&T signal through this zero-bar signal area, and the Xperia is one of them.
reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case
1- Reception GREAT
Poll up
Express yorself
achmed20 said:
reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case
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I'll second that, my N95 8GB has a better signal strength than my Xperia, i have owned a few Win mob devices in the past and they have all had poor reception compared to The Nokias i had at the time.
Done blame SE.. its a matter of fone operators.
nup, reception is much worse on the x1 than my k800i.
with my old phone I could get a little bit of reception at work (thick walls, no windows, lots of machinery..)
but I rarely get a signal now with the x1.. (and am unable to make calls, or they drop out half way through)
(and I am with the same provider)
But signal bars don't really represent how much signal you get. Making calls and it not dropping are the key factors you need to compare with.
Yes, however having comparison with SE P1, and my HP laptop with ExpressCard,
all on the same operator,
X1 is a bit weeker on reception.
Im also having same problem with signal on o2 in the uk, my blackbbery bold is fine, but x1 normally shows 1/2 bars
Really? Well here in montreal we have a tunnel, the Louis-Hyppolite Lafontaine tunnel. This tunnel is a dead zone, of course, but on a strong enough phone you get a link until nearly at the middle. With my X1, I got signal from start to end, the only other phones that I saw capable of doing this are the blod and E71.
Even if in my phone I see 3 bars, the signal is still very strong. Well maybe the X1 has better sensitivity, that would explain why you see 2 bars on the SE, when, conversely, you see 4 on a motorola.
X1 definitely has serious reception problem.
I am not taking about the number of bars but off and on signal are comepltely gone and it will start searching for a network.
I have tested this by putting the phone on the table and by observing the signals bars over a long period of time. Often I have noticed full signal bars and many time there are not signals at all.
Service is weak in my area but none of my pervious mobiles have shown such a poor reception.
My reception is just ridiculously bad!(I live in the Netherlands, Utrecht)
When I'm on MSN or browsing the web, or even when I'm SMS'ing,
the signal just drops. It's really starting to bug me!
I dont even have a connection when I'm on the bathroom @home..
I've noticed that it seems to be more due to the issue of HSDPA. It'll lose signal with HSDPA but then it'll connect with full bars of the older GPRS. In my opinion this would indicate that the service provider (vodafone) is the issue, not the phone.
I think another issue is that the radio antenna is actually part of the metal battery cover. If you take it off and turn the cover over you can see 4 exposed pieces of metal, I assume these are just that. Perhaps the signal you receive is so poor that even your hand covering the antenna is blocking it.
Here are the results of a hard comparison:
three (3) different devices -
HTC Polaris P3650 (ie. the 1st one)
SE X1 with radio ROM 1.11.25.76
Acer DX900
I used the same SIM card in all three in exactly the same marginal signal area (same verandah) in succession (total swap time to all three was about 10 minutes, no sudden electrical storms, weather fine and clear)
Both the Polaris and the DX900 easily found enough signal to work directly after boot with both HSDPA and GSM
The X1 obdurately stayed dumb and stupid, although it works OK in high signal areas
Conclusion: the X1 is useless in marginal signal areas. I suspect the aluminium case. It works fine if you never leave the city areas. When combined with the original underpowered battery, I now regard the X1 as an expensive toy ... pity, as it has lots of grunt (CPU, RAM, storage, resolution, GPS) but I'm simply not in the design market demographic.
I've tried 4 different radio ROM's now in the X1. WiFi, BT, GPS are excellent. GSM/GPRS and UMTS are hopeless in marginal signal areas.

SOLVED - HSDPA in London, UK not staying connected, hard to find... see later post

I had a quick search for HSDPA and connect to HSDPA but couldnt find a solution to this problem (if it is a problem...)
I get awesome reception with my phone. At home (in the sticks/country, quite far from another town or city) I get E reception usually 2 bars to full... this is connected to gprs or just on the phone with data connection turned off...
My problem is that when I head toward and am in London I get the H signal which holds for a few seconds at full strength then my phone seems to lose reception altogether and when recption returns its back to either E or G... I am hoping its something I am not doing in the settings or that H reception in London is generally not good... I have H enabled in the connection settings and data connections in advanced config... is there anything else I can do or should be doing...? Is H recption in London generally bad (any other experiences please let me know, perhaps a street in Central London where it might be great so I can go there and test my phones H reception, I go to Oxford circus at least 2 times a week or so)? Thanks in advance...
Thats O2 - I get alot of switching too, You dont seem to have move very far for the bars to go down when the H symbol is up, then you get an E and sometimes a G - I had this with my old phone too so I dont think it is the fault of the x1.
I dont think O2 3G/HSDPA network is very good.
I did hear that some carriers simply piggy backed their 3g stuff on top of their old 2g towers but 3g range is not so good so you get this switching problem until they add more towers.
Thanks Scote... that makes sense I guess but is a pain... I am going to try to get a replacement sim to see if that makes a difference as mine is about 4 years or more old now... much appreciated.
Ok this is just an update in case anyone else has a similar problem. I called O2 and asked them about it.. after a bit of transferring the lovely lady on the line tells me I have an older sim and need to get it replaced and to make my way to the nearest carphone warehouse shop (my account holder) and they will upgrade it for free... nice... so I am off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of 02...
Can't see how changing SIM would affect anything... sounds like she was telling you what you want to hear...
Have you tried flashing to the most recent radio per my sig?
akp99 said:
Can't see how changing SIM would affect anything... sounds like she was telling you what you want to hear...
Have you tried flashing to the most recent radio per my sig?
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Possibly, but its free so doesnt hurt to try... I have not flashed a new radio yet... will try it though if the sim doesnt work out... I gather the radios are in the ROM section of the x1 board?
try a new radio, i get it a lot and have the latest 02 sim.
also i think 3 (the network) is using o2 stuff so that might be why there 3g reception is not great.
Ganondolf said:
try a new radio, i get it a lot and have the latest 02 sim.
also i think 3 (the network) is using o2 stuff so that might be why there 3g reception is not great.
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I will try out the radio that Akp99 has and see how that works... what radio do you have Ganondolf?
Ok after transferring the new sim card into my phone I noticed that I could access edge in more places in my house where before I would get edge in the living room say and the study but not in the bedroom or kids play room for example and it was a stronger signal too... I went for a trip into one of the towns near my place (a 15 minute car journey) and the first thing I noticed when I went to make a call was that I had an H and all the bars were up. This was great as I didnt even realise that this town had HSDPA capability... woo hoo... so now the test will be on Monday when I go to London and see how it does.
FYI I did not flash a new radio just changed the SIM... apparantly (not sure how true this is) my old card was a 2g (I have had it for about 4 years or so) and this new one is a 3g which they tell me would make the difference... further updates to follow...
Ok I have a solution to this problem...
I phoned O2 and was put through to a customer services rep. I told them that my sim was a few years old (up to 4 or 5) and that it was not connecting to HSDPA services as it should, the lady said that my old card was a 2g and I needed a 3g card so she made a note on my account and told me to head down to the nearest CPW store and get a 3g replacement free of charge. I have NOT flashed a new radio yet... yet... perhaps later if their might be benefits to the new one... Almost immediately I noticed that the E service was stronger all over my house... I could get full bar service pretty much anywhere, where before I was getting 2 in most places. I even noticed H service in my living room which had never happened before...
Going into London today I noticed as soon as I got out of the car that I had full bar H service... and wow is it quick. I had it everywhere I went in Central London with the bars dropping to 2 when I was walking between some very tall buildings on Oxford st. So it looks like the sim card does have a direct impact on the ability to pick up a service... and I am just tickled as a pig in mud that its working full capacity...
I have radio version 1.10.25.18
I have not flashed the radio. Also have o2 3g sim
I noticed that although i have H a lot in 3g areas, but a lot of the time when i send texts / access the net it jump back down to E or G but will stay on H if left on standbye or if i receive texts / calls.
when i make calls it seems to stay on H but hard to tell as forget to look

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