Hey i noticed u guys talking about overclocking the TyTn. Is this true? Can we overclock? I like to check how much we can speed it up. Man, if we go any faster, it will be like having a laptop in our pockets. Please let me know if there are noticeable difference and how much you can overclock the TyTn.
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
Does the TyTn feel any faster when overcloked?
Have you run any benchmarks comparing the affects?
I haven't run any benchmarks. And honestly it doesn't feel any faster. It already fly's. I rarely have it bog down.
nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.
JNGold said:
nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.
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XCPUScalar seems to work fine at 500. Tried Hackmaster too, but
its froze my TyTN. Working autoscale would be sweet thou.
Gotta try and find some benchmarking programs to compare the speeds.
Any suggestions for a good one?
Must be working thou, since setting the processor to 100, makes the device very very slow.
Hmm, it seems XCPUScalar is faking the speeds, it works when "underclocking" but not when overcloking.
Cant try with pocket hack master, since it frozes up with any speed I try to test.
Has anyone been able to overclock the Samsung CPU yet? XCPUScalar doesn't seem to be working correctly as it was designed for XScale or TI OMAP... not the Samsung CPU.
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Hello,
Has anyone tried using XCPUScalar? There is a new version available released today. I'd just like to know your comments if it's worth it, and if this type of application is safe to use.
Poch
I use v2.53 which seems very stable.
I'm not sure how good it is at over-clocking and the real difference this makes yo the XDA's useability.
However, the fact that it can reduce CPU speed depending on need, and therefore extend battery life is quite useful.
From the release notes for 2.6, there are a couple of improvements I'd welcome, such as the ability to set the speed on boot rather than revert to default.
Is it stable...? Did it hardreset anyone?
Last time I tried to overclock a PDA was with one of my Ipaqs... it hard reset... and I never did it again...
Can someone give me enough reasurance to try this new piece of SW?
Thanks,
Chris
started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!
Thank you!
But... how do you know up till what point is stable... and at what point it hardresets? How do you know you could push it to 530 rather than 500 or 700? You push it until it crashes? You get a warning message?
Sorry if the question is a bit naive :roll:
Thanks,
Chris
The maximum stable frequency for xda2 is 472-530 Mhz.
Where 472 has more benefits in stability and fatest memory clock.
Mine runs good on 530 in Os menu,but freezes instantly in hard processing soft..like Quake,WmPlayer.(it is also like to anaylze if some programs are running in background and don't support these frequencies)
Note: some application like Camera are more sensitive than others to overclocked fr. but personally I did only encontered benefits in Camera app with more fps.
A benchmark reported that in same cases better performance is on 400mhz and 472 max. (on xda2)
Faster overclock will only degrade your performance,but you can try it.. at least you will have to Soft-Reset or Hard-Reset your device,so backu-up first all your data.
aikon359 said:
started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!
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There is no 2mhz extra,the real freq. is 528 but approx. to 530
Also Hack Master is recommende for more professional use,because it offer many options like no other overclock application.
I am sure you are interested to read the overclock results:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page729.html
Regards,
Ser
Has anyone managed to overclock the tytn with pocker hack master or xcpuscalar?
For me hack master freezes the device with every settings and
xcpuscalar only "underclocks". And shows false information about the device being overclocked.
Sorry no help here, its just nice to see a nother person who baught both
Overclocking utilities for the PDA tend to be CPU specific. You'll need a utility that is designed for the Samsung CPU.
But for what overclocking? I am really happy with the current cpu speed
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Overclocking utilities for the PDA tend to be CPU specific. You'll need a utility that is designed for the Samsung CPU.
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Those progs are supposed to support samsung cpu's.
Not a hundred percent sure about the specifk models,
too lazy to check.
Allthou I remember reading something about samsungs power saving on wm5 resetting the speeds and those two programs developers inadept or unwilling to circumvent that. Im guessing the former.
Since otherwise am betting they would do it.
And yes the speed is great. but overcloking is fun.
can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
have been surfing the net but didn't found anything...
Thanking the one in advance
Peace
Wassalam
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can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
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I think it means that the cpu is soldered on the motherboard, you cannot "replace" it like in a normal computer.
Mucha gracias hermano *(pof)
Sounds like you Pof wasn't very sure anybody knows for sure or can someone just confirm this?
Respect
Wassalam
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vend1a said:
can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
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I think it means that the cpu is soldered on the motherboard, you cannot "replace" it like in a normal computer.
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I think it means that the cpu has many layers, so the stuff in the cpu is
stacked. Makes the cpu smaller etc.
kitos kitos J
I read something about what you say: something about first in last out or vice versa. in layer forms yes.
Something to figure out and post in webopedia or something trackable on the net.
Thanks again...
Respect
Wassalam
Overclocking works fine for me.
I use xcpuscalar in auto-mode with the current settings :
200 mhz - 0-20%
400 mhz - 20-70%
500 mhz - 70-100%
Have had no problems with it - and the 200 mhz saves battery.
/Martin
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Overclocking works fine for me.
I use xcpuscalar in auto-mode with the current settings :
200 mhz - 0-20%
400 mhz - 20-70%
500 mhz - 70-100%
Have had no problems with it - and the 200 mhz saves battery.
/Martin
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Mind running a few benchmarks? And check the speed from somewhere else
then xcpuscalar, it gives false readings.
I wouldn't have any idea how to do that.
Martin
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I wouldn't have any idea how to do that.
Martin
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Spb benchmark (free) and TCPMP also shows cpu speed, not sure about how reliably, but I guess more then xcpuscalar.
I would not trust xcpuscalars reading, when I tried it, it did too report 500mhz, but other programs showed 400 and benchmarks for 400 and 500 were the same.
The issue about xcpuscalars false readings has been discussed all over the net.
Under Clocking the unit really does not affect its stability, but really does extended the battery life, I have noticed about 40% increase in the battery life, when running the CPU at 200Mhz. :?
Stacked CPU
For an indepth article on the cpu in the TyTN that also completely answers your question on stacked cpu's visit:
http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20050927002711773
Has anyone tried PocketHackMaster 4.0 beta?
the beta 4.0 doesn't seem to support overclocking on the TyTN. Allegedly it will on the final version though...
Version v4.13.031 of Pocket Hackmaster has been released 12 Nov. 2006. Have anyone tried it? Thanks a lot!
Never mind. I tried it. Doesn't work. My TyTn needs a soft reset after testing.
i just got this phone and upgraded from an sx66, and i have converted alot of videos to play on the sx66. i encoded them in wmv format at 320x240 res at 340 bitrate and they played flawlessly on it, but on this phone it cant even play it at an acceptable rate. however, if i overclock it to 200+ it runs fine, but im worried that using it for an extended amount of time could harm the device, and i dont make alotta money so i cant risk burning it up. can anyone help me out on this issue, or even offer alternatives to faster video players or better ways to encode?
People on these forums usually overclock safely at 240mhz through omap, which is 260mhz truespeed. My 8125 is overclocked at 252mhz through omap. It runs fine with me. It's only soft resetted on me once. Oh yeah, and it dosen't suck up my battery either.
what do you mean when you say truespeed? and keeping it overclocked won't damage it?
I'm with the 240mghz crowd. It seems to be a good speed. It gives a boost in over all speed, yet is still stable.
No, it won't damage anything.
Overclockign
Which software are you using to overclock?
I use Omap Clock Plus, can be found as freeware on this forum. Works great. I have been using 240mhz, and haven't had any problems. And I leave it on the whole time I've installed it.
I o/c to 240mhz as well. It works fine for me without lockign up or resetting. Im sure you've noticed that every time you come out of standby, you go back to the regular clockspeed. I use the program "smartskey" to keep it overclocked every time i come out of standby. In my opinion everyone smartskey is the most important addon for the wizard. Makes it much more useable in every way.
When you say "TrueSpeed" do you mean this is the actual speed of the proc?
Does that omap clock thingy (The command line one) clock to true speed?
If I tell it to go to 260 by command line, what speed is it actually running at?
any one thried and work?
i tried xcular but didn't work with hight speed!
thanks
parkertseng said:
any one thried and work?
i tried xcular but didn't work with hight speed!
thanks
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I use this program and the speed can reach to 728 MHz.
The machine is still stable and running very fast.
I use XCPUScalar 2005 ver 2.93 bought from PocketGear.com
realy!
it is strange!
i downloaded the latest version and installed
it hanged and not responfding after few minutes...
anyone has the same problem?
thanks!
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realy!
it is strange!
i downloaded the latest version and installed
it hanged and not responfding after few minutes...
anyone has the same problem?
thanks!
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mine doesn't work as well, strange enough when i plug in the power cable, it does reach to higher speed, and it's quite stable, but when i unplug it, the screen stop responding.
or maybe is it the problem version?
i have the version 2007 v3_01
and how about u, Wu?
regards!
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mine doesn't work as well, strange enough when i plug in the power cable, it does reach to higher speed, and it's quite stable, but when i unplug it, the screen stop responding.
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I had similar experiences to you Wu. Happily overclocked to 733Mhz, on AC power, but crashed during movie playback 2 minutes into it.
Tried CPU Scalar many years ago and wasn't too impressed with its compatibility and stability then either. Definately removing it from my Ameo before it causes a major problem...like bricking my device!!
I saw a huge performance increase in WM6 over WM5 on the Universal...my bet is that we will see this same speed increase in the Athena when we get the WM6 upgrade.
Meanwhile, I'm happy with the Athena as is.
i have exactly the same problem like yours, wu!
then how come the other guy is running it normally?
how to get the old version?
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then how come the other guy is running it normally?
how to get the old version?
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i am using the newest version from pocket gear.
how about hn1716?
he said he can reach 728mhz and stable
mybe u he can provide us the old version?
mackaby007 said:
I had similar experiences to you Wu. Happily overclocked to 733Mhz, on AC power, but crashed during movie playback 2 minutes into it.
Tried CPU Scalar many years ago and wasn't too impressed with its compatibility and stability then either. Definately removing it from my Ameo before it causes a major problem...like bricking my device!!
I saw a huge performance increase in WM6 over WM5 on the Universal...my bet is that we will see this same speed increase in the Athena when we get the WM6 upgrade.
Meanwhile, I'm happy with the Athena as is.
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Hi Mackaby007,
I'm still using Dopod 900, but didn't have the guts to upgrade it to crossbow. I'm afraid pf getting stability problems since I'm already very happy with the reliability of Dopod 900 at the moment.
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Hi Mackaby007,
I'm still using Dopod 900, but didn't have the guts to upgrade it to crossbow. I'm afraid pf getting stability problems since I'm already very happy with the reliability of Dopod 900 at the moment.
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I've not experienced any instability with WM6 on Universal in over a month now. Very fast indeed and much more stable than WM5 AKU 3.xxx......anyway, as this thread is about Athena & Overclocking, I merely mentioned speed improvements in WM6 on another device compared to O/C. We can discuss this further if you like in the Universal forum.
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I've not experienced any instability with WM6 on Universal in over a month now. Very fast indeed and much more stable than WM5 AKU 3.xxx......anyway, as this thread is about Athena & Overclocking, I merely mentioned speed improvements in WM6 on another device compared to O/C. We can discuss this further if you like in the Universal forum.
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YESSS Sooo much more responsive!!! It's like upgrading processor feelings. I guess I don't really need the processor in Athena for now.
Improved XcpuScaler for athena available
There has been a revision of xcpuscaler to version 3.03 (2007) which seems to work fine on Athena.
I have been using it since yesterday and auto scaling works up to 663MHz.
The software interface does not cover the landscape screen fully although you can still make your selections by scrolling doen with the arrow head.
The upgrade is offered free for those who already have the 3.0 version.
Those using it please give your experiences.
Im using XCPUScalar v3.03 the latest one, and my Athena is very stable at 663Mhz (no auto-scale). Can not set it to 728 as it hangs after 20 seconds.
But running it at 663 is more then enough, it is more responsive and can handle 2 tasks the same time ...
I think it will run smoother and more reactive if we disable the auto-scale and running it all the time at 663 Mhz, but the battery life will be a lot shorter of course, I don't really mind as I will get a second battery
victoradjei
you said your using the auto scaling feature and it's stable on your device.
Can you give us more feedback if you are still using this feature??
is the device still stable?? what kind of SW are you running??
Im interested to know actually when you use TomTom, games, media player, waking up the device from sleep mode etc .... how it reacts when the CPU % change all the time.
I'm confused. Doesn't this device have built-in auto-scaling of processor speed? I've played with PocketMechanic, and it seemed to work well. I just wasn't sure it was needed on an on-going basis. The one place I might use it is playing back MPEG2 videos which is laggy in TCPMP. PM helped somewhat. Other thoughts?
hi,
i'm confussed!
the xcpuscalar soft is compatible with the athena?
the athena as a intel processor and the xcpuscalar soft says compatible with omap and scale processors
thanks for your comments
Bart
Works GREAT on my HTC Advantage x7501...TJ
bartito said:
hi,
i'm confussed!
the xcpuscalar soft is compatible with the athena?
the athena as a intel processor and the xcpuscalar soft says compatible with omap and scale processors
thanks for your comments
Bart
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According to the product description, it supports xscale processor. Athena uses an xscale processor PXA270.
just wondering how many of you vogue owners are overclocked?
please post:
1) what speed are you overclocked to?
2) what program you used/how you did it
3) how stable is your vogue? (not at all, stable, extremely stable, how many soft resets a day, etc)
4) would you recommend it for others
thanks guys!!!
No one is overclocked on a vogue. This subject is beat into the ground. The vogue can't be overclocked by the overclocking tool that everyone talks about because it is a different processor. Anyone who says they overclocked it ran a rom and had a placebo effect.
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No one is overclocked on a vogue. This subject is beat into the ground. The vogue can't be overclocked by the overclocking tool that everyone talks about because it is a different processor. Anyone who says they overclocked it ran a rom and had a placebo effect.
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What the F are you talking about??? Its been posted many times that with the Sprint touch you can use the overclocker to go to 524 or 600 and many including myself have **timed how long applications take** to boot up and have seen a reduction in loading time aka faster performance.
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What the F are you talking about??? Its been posted many times that with the Sprint touch you can use the overclocker to go to 524 or 600 and many including myself have **timed how long applications take** to boot up and have seen a reduction in loading time aka faster performance.
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Whoa! Relax there would ya? No need to throw a fit.
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What the F are you talking about??? Its been posted many times that with the Sprint touch you can use the overclocker to go to 524 or 600 and many including myself have **timed how long applications take** to boot up and have seen a reduction in loading time aka faster performance.
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Really!!! What program did you use?
First I've heard of overclocking a cdma touch. I'ld like to know the software too. My stripped down rom is already fast, overclocked would be insane.
I do not think it can be done. I just wanted him to say HTC performance which is the overclocking tool that works on devices with a different processor. Don't get your hopes up. If you really want to overclock your vogue take the battery out and shake the phone as hard as you can in an up and down motion. If you believe hard enought teh placebo effect can be just as effective as with HTC performance.
You can not use HTC Performance to overclock the vogue. It will allow you to select the options but it will not physically overclock it as it does not support the Qualcom MSM7xxx chipsets. As they are dual core and can not support overclocking. That utility only works with the ELF which is the GSM version.