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Vario software problem...help!

hi there, as this is my first post and i'm definitely a relative n00b here, please go easy on me.
right, the problem:-
i have a Vario2 on the UK T mobile network and althought it's my first PDA i have to say i love it.the only problem i've had is when i tried to install TomTom.
before this handset i had a Nokia 6680 on which i installed Tomtom 5, so when i got my Vario i thought i'd install the same software ( my Tomtom disk has both the symbian and smartfhone versions on).
the install didn't work so i simply deleted it and forgot about it.
at a later date i got hold of Tomtom 6 and tried to install it but one of the files will not execute so there's definitely something up with my device as i've installed the same software on two other Vario2's without a hitch.
i may be wrong here, and i probably am, but i'm of the opinion that when i removed Tomtom 5 i didn't fully get all the files out and therefore when i try to install Tomtom 6 it detects the presence of some version 5 files and aborts.
if i'm right can anyone tell me how to rectify this and if i'm not can you guys tell me where i'm going wrong.
thanks in advance, i'v been viewing these forums for a while but only just registered today.
this seems like a very friendly and imformative community.

I may be completely wrong here but I think the root casue of your problems is that you first tried to intsall TomTom Mobile (Smartphone version) on the Vario II. The Vario II is a full Windows Mobile Phone Edition (rather than Windows Mobile Smartphone) and therefore requires TomTom Navigator which I'm guessing your TomTom 6 is.
I presume you have double checked the "remove programs" bit in the Vario II settings folder for any TomTom software.
You don't mention where the install is failing - PC side or Vairo side. If it is PC side you may beable to obtain the CAB files from the TomTom disc or the Temp install folder and copy them manually to the Vario Storage Card and then try running the CABs directly on the Vario.
Failing all that I am sure a full Hard Reset on the device to wipe it back to "new" will work but that will mean reinstalling everything else too.

SimonTALM said:
I may be completely wrong here but I think the root casue of your problems is that you first tried to intsall TomTom Mobile (Smartphone version) on the Vario II. The Vario II is a full Windows Mobile Phone Edition (rather than Windows Mobile Smartphone) and therefore requires TomTom Navigator which I'm guessing your TomTom 6 is.
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i agree, i definitely think the problem lies with me trying to install the wrong version of Tomtom 5 first.
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I presume you have double checked the "remove programs" bit in the Vario II settings folder for any TomTom software.
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yes, the remove programs box is now empty i.e. i don't have anything else installed at the moment.
SimonTALM said:
You don't mention where the install is failing - PC side or Vairo side. If it is PC side you may beable to obtain the CAB files from the TomTom disc or the Temp install folder and copy them manually to the Vario Storage Card and then try running the CABs directly on the Vario.
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no pc involved in the install process my friend.
i copied the files to the memory card and executed them from there.
i know it's not a software problem as i have installed the exact same software on two other vario's
SimonTALM said:
Failing all that I am sure a full Hard Reset on the device to wipe it back to "new" will work but that will mean reinstalling everything else too.
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sorry to go all n00b again but can you tell me EXACTLY what a hard reset does?
does it put the device back to the way it left the factory? will it even erase calender entries and delete any notes etc?
thanks for taking the time to reply.

Hi Dark Side, yes a hard reset will restore your phone to its out of the box state ... anything you have added like appointments etc.. will be wiped.
If you are going to do a hard reset you might want to install a backup program first ( SPB Backup <click here> is a good one) and do a custom backup where you just backup the calendar/tasks and emails/sms etc.. that way you can just restore these after the reset.
Good luck.

If there is no PC invovled and you are using the *.cab files directly then my guess is the old TomTom left some files about and perhaps some registry junk. You can can search for them but it will be time consuming.
I think a hard reset will be the quickest way to fix it but it will take your Vario II back to the state it was when you took it out of the box first time - no programs, no calendar, no notes etc.
Check out the wiki for how to do a hard rest.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners
You can restore all your data after the Hard Rest if before you do it you make sure you take a backup using a backup tool like SpriteBackup. If you don't have backup software fully sync your Vario II and then take a copy of the Sync Files folder on the PC probably named "My Documents on [ppc name]" in your PC's "My Documents" folder.
N.B. I'd reinstall all software rather than restoring it and do that before restoring your data (or copying the files back from the copy of the original "my documents on [ppc name]") That way you'll make sure there is no risk of data being over written.

thanks for the help.
i'll either report back with the results, or i'll make sure you all get invitations to my funeral after i've banged my head off the wall for the millionth time, lol.

The Dark Side said:
thanks for the help.
i'll either report back with the results, or i'll make sure you all get invitations to my funeral after i've banged my head off the wall for the millionth time, lol.
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UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.

The Dark Side said:
UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.
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Glad you got it working okay in the end
Just a thought, the passkey request might be because you have the "Passkey required" box ticked in the bluetooth settings (settings>connections>bluetooth>security) ... might be worth a look to see if the box is checked and if yes, uncheck it to see if that stops it asking.

The Dark Side said:
UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.
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Glad you got it working, as a matter of interest which bluetooth outgoing COM port did you use for the BT GPS?

Nicky said:
Just a thought, the passkey request might be because you have the "Passkey required" box ticked in the bluetooth settings (settings>connections>bluetooth>security) ... might be worth a look to see if the box is checked and if yes, uncheck it to see if that stops it asking.
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comms manager>settings>bluetooth settings>security shows a box with authentication (passkey) required...this box is not checked.
now, after asking me for the passkey all day ( i've turned it on+off about ten times) it has suddenly stopped asking me and simply started up the app.
hmm.
i use a BT-77 by the way and i used this same receiver with my previous nokia 6680 for over a year without it ever asking for authentication.
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Glad you got it working, as a matter of interest which bluetooth outgoing COM port did you use for the BT GPS?
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i'm connected on COM4..but here's a new twist.
within the last hour the BT receiver has disappeared from the devices section of the bluetooth settings area of the comms manager.
now all day (i only got this working last night) the bt receiver was in the devices folder, but with a question mark next to it whereas now just my earpiece is listed in there.
weird.!

.cab file problems on 8525

hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!

upgrade to .net 3.5...

weiky79 said:
hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!
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Well yes you can upgrade the .net framework. But I wonder if you are trying to extract the cab files before transfering them to the phone?
Just use activesync explore mode to transfer the cab files (unextracted) to the phone or sd card and then on the phone use file explorer to find them and tap on them.
Things that run all the time and on today screen install to main memory, all the rest install to sdcard (choice appears when you tap on the cab file)
Mike

ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?

weiky79 said:
ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?
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Save the cab file on your pc, go into activesync and select explore......then drag and drop the file onto the explore window. Simple

well, i dL the 3.5 .NET framework. no problems there, but my original problem still exists. I can't open any files to my 8525. when i try to copy or send from pc to phone, my phone isn't even recognized. when i explore my phone and try to push a file through, it doesn't work. This is probably some ridiculous formality, but I can't figure it out! It's starting to really irritate me now
-Weiky79

wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone

weiky79 said:
wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone
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Agh right - I see what the problem was now - I think we were slightly misunderstanding the problem.
Good news - happy days
Mike

Bluetooth Name Change Software

Here you will find a little tool to change your Device's Bluetooth name without going to the registry yourself.
http://gbit.ath.cx
It's free and more apps will be released.

Thanks. This is exactly the type of thing I could use.

Would it be possible to make a program to toggle on/off the "Wireless Stereo" and/or "Hands Free" services for a particular Bluetooth device automatically.
I created the attached Mortscript file to do it, but it is very slow and cumbersome. I use this to allow me to switch from my Plantronics headset to my JVC radio when I am in my car. The SendKeys("Settings","2") line in the mortscript code is used to pick the headset named 260Plantronics in my bluetooth devices list. I thought you could make it use a parameter to pass the device name to the program, so any device may be chosen. I use the registry reading part of Battery Status to show me if the headset service is enabled or not.
The registry keys for the devices is under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\???????????\Services\????????\enabled, where the first set of ?s is the device and the second set of ?s is the service. I tried changing the registry keys with mortscript but it doesn't affect the actual settings in the setting menu and the Plantronics is still connected. Even after a soft reset the Plantronics will still be connected even though the registry keys show 0 and the settings items are unchecked.
Code:
iscar=RegRead("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\000389c44266\Services\0000111e-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb\","enabled")
Run("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\BlueSet.lnk")
WaitFor("Settings",10)
SendKeys("Settings","2")
Sleep(500)
SendCR("Settings")
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("Settings",17,109)
MouseClick("Settings",17,127)
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("Settings",195,308)
Sleep(500)
Close("Settings")
Exit

installation folder
i have eten glofiish m700 with WM6.1
i installed the CAB & it created a new folder on the main memory called \pogram files%provider% with the BlueName folder inside it
i believe it should have created the BlueName folder inside the original main program files folder, so i did a copy & paste of the BlueName there
It works fine & nice & light software..does exactly what it should do ... but i wanted to mention the "folder" destination error to you
Thanks again for the nice cab

ok, thanks i will check the installation and upp a correct one.

elkneo said:
ok, thanks i will check the installation and upp a correct one.
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great
please update us here & post something to let us know that the new one is there so we go get it
again good work

corrected version is online now. visit my page for more software...

Thanks for the update.

Hi ,
URL http://gbit.ath.cx is not working . I was looking for the solution to change the bluetooth radio name . any ideas ?

anil_k_22 said:
Hi ,
URL http://gbit.ath.cx is not working . I was looking for the solution to change the bluetooth radio name . any ideas ?
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Here you go.
I hope he doesn't mind me posting his cab here since his site seems to be down.

Laptop + HD bluetooth problem

i have a Toshiba Satellite.. about 1 year long and i put a Kingston bluetooth USB on.. ive used it before with my Sony Ericsson and i had no problem but now that i try to connect with my HD it doesn't work.
my HD thinks it connected but my computer doesn't
i cant send files to the phone or anything at all.
its not even recognized
everything works fine if i use the USB cable the HD brought
do i need to update some kind of drive? or what?
anyone got any ideas?

Windows Bluetooth Protocols
Just an idea, but some phones use File Transfer Protocol on Bluetooth, however Windows Mobile devices use Object Push Protocol, adding this protocol onto your Laptops range of available Bluetooth settings, SHOULD allow you to transfer files between Laptop and Touch HD via Bluetooth. Had a similar problem with my laptop!
Hope this solves your problem!

"Once upon a time" in windows mobile 6 I was able to browse my phone through bluetooth connection.
Now with the Blackstone it appears to be impossible. There is no such option within the bluetooth settings.

i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.

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i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.
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i can send and receive files to my device and have them stored to my Bluetooth Share folder on my storage card. i exported the registry changes and dll from my Orbit2. you can get the dll file here and the registry changes here. it's probabaly best if you follow my instructions from here. once you've made the changes, soft reset and you should be able to send files to your folder of choice without prompts. there are probably other methods of accomplishing the same task, but this has worked for me since i've had my HD. oh yeah, the disclaimer: you assume all risk for anything that happens as a result fo the import and file copy to your device.

i rather not go through all that.. dont want to mess up anything. leaving it pretty much stock. best way to go. besides adding programs (real ones) haha.. only thing i have is HD Tweak from here.. i dont evne have gyrator.. not really needed. thanks anyway. ill just use the cable.

if you're not an experienced WM user, i can understand not wanting to follow the detailed instructions. they were created for the person who requested the info. really, your not installing software, your copying a (certified windows mobile dll) file to your device and importing a registry setting. it's basically the manual steps a cab file would execute. you copy the dll to your windows folder, use PHM or Resco Registry to import the registry settings, soft reset and then try to send a file to your laptop. that's it.

For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).

ill see what i can do later.. i got finals >< thanks guys

Lucas0511 said:
For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).
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same here.... this method is to transfer files via Bluetooth/OBEX to a folder of your choice without prompts and without having to connect to WDMC or AS...

[Q] What is an old/broken blackstone good for?

Hello,
Today I found my old broken (digitizer not working) touch HD sleeping in a dusty box... and I kind of felt sad for it.
All the hardware on the phone is working just fine except for the touch pannel
So I was thinking, is it possible to make some good use of it without investing any money for repair (it's just not worth it, as I have the brilliant HD2 since the day it got realeased)?
Having a non-working digitizer doesn't leave a lot of options but here is an idea:
Car tracking device? - have it installed in my car, constantly charging from the car battery, listening to GPS and sending coordinates over gsm data to my PC/server.
1. The blackstone have a GPS and you can install a simple data only SIM card from your provider, allowing your device to connect to a remote server over the internet and send important data - like gps coordinates.
2. It's still possible to install any custom rom you like.
3. There is a way to skip initial touch calibration screen: make an empty text file and rename it to "welcome.not" and place it in the root ot your sd card. (Thanks to Chef_Tony for pointing that out!)
4. There is a way to control the device via PC and a USB cable: after hard reset your device default usb connection mode will be ActiveSync. Then run the free MyMobiler application on the PC and it will automatically install on the usb connected device, allowing you to fully control it via your PC mouse and keyboard. (Thanks to Chef_Tony for pointing that out!)
I'm sure that I'm not the first nor the only one that came up with an idea like this, but I couldn't find any topic on it. I also know there are many brilliant developers in XDA that make loads of awesome apps for our HTC devices.
So, any ideas?
Shouts to:
Chef_Tony
Best wishes,
Xeno

new digitizer is about $8.. buy it, fix it at home and sell it for $100

yes, you can always replace the digitizer and have a fine phone.
but anyways, since your plan seems pretty interesting, here is some basic input to help you:
3. you can bypass the OOBE. all you need to do is, create an empty txt file on your pc, "untitled.txt" and rename it to "Welcome.not", (yes, change the extension to "not") and put it in the root of the sd card, then the welcome wizard should be skipped after a hard reset, and so you don't need to align the screen.
4. after a hard reset, the default option for a usb connection is activesync. then you can run MyMobiler on your pc, it will install on the device automatically and you can control the device on your pc's screen with keyboard and mouse.
so you can still use it for anything you like, if you control it over the pc and preconfigure it to meet your needs.

sleby said:
new digitizer is about $8.. buy it, fix it at home and sell it for $100
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I gave it a shot few months ago and I failed The problem was that the digitizer is literally glued to the lcd panel, and detaching it is a REAL pain the butt (I almost broke it). Anyway, after reassembly the new touch screen didn't work and I gave up. I cursed myself later on when I found the topic here in XDA forums that the best way is to buy a digitizer+lcd combo...

Chef_Tony said:
yes, you can always replace the digitizer and have a fine phone.
but anyways, since your plan seems pretty interesting, here is some basic input to help you:
3. you can bypass the OOBE. all you need to do is, create an empty txt file on your pc, "untitled.txt" and rename it to "Welcome.not", (yes, change the extension to "not") and put it in the root of the sd card, then the welcome wizard should be skipped after a hard reset, and so you don't need to align the screen.
4. after a hard reset, the default option for a usb connection is activesync. then you can run MyMobiler on your pc, it will install on the device automatically and you can control the device on your pc's screen with keyboard and mouse.
so you can still use it for anything you like, if you control it over the pc and preconfigure it to meet your needs.
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Thank you fine sir for the light on the topic. I'll make sure to add this in the first post
Every new idea/info will be of great value reaching the goals of this thread

Ok, putting a welcome.not file on the root of the sd card did the trick as promised. I conneced the device to my PC via usb and as expected it connected via ActiveSync by default.
Unfortunatelly MyMobiler was unable to install the mobile part of the app automatically - it poped a message on the phone "This program is from an unknown publisher..." and it's now waiting for confirmation to continue the execution of the app... and it's pretty impossible to confirm this with a broken touch pannel
I believe there is a registry workaround for this, but it should be set by default in a cooked rom? I'm using the latest WWE rom from HTC.com.
It will be great if some good chef could mod this rom and make this annoying message go away

1. i just had an idea on how to get mymobiler running. i cannot promise, that it'll work, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
having the latest mymobiler on your pc, you see different files there, some of which are named:
remote.exe
remote.exe.40
remote.exe.50
when you connect the device in activesync mode, and set it up for syncing (at least notes or browser favorites, something that does not actually mess with your pim data), you will see the blackstone in "My Computer". entering it, you have the storage home drive and the storage card. by enabling "Show hidden files" and disabling "Hide system files" in your windows explorer, you should be able to access the windows folder of the device. then you can copy the file remote.exe.50 there, rename it to remote.exe (the .40 file is for wm2003, the .50 file for wm5 or greater, but you need to remove the extension to make it executable).
and then, since you cannot make shortcuts yet, copy the file again to \Windows\StartUp\
thereby making it run automaticly, when the device boots. then soft reset, and i am fairly certain, you should be able to run mymobiler.
from there on, you could disable the signature warning for future programs.
EDIT: apparently, the startup folder is victim to the certification warning as well. still i leave this paragraph, as i find it interesting as to how mymobiler works.
2. another idea would be to just flash any cooked rom found here on the forum. all of them have this stupid signature warning disabled and are ready to run mymobiler out of the box.
3. my third idea to get it running is trying to modify the responsible reg key:
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Security\Policies\Policies\0000101a
it is a dword key, where the value '0' is activated warning, and '1' means, the warning is disabled.
in the 2577.zip in the attachment, you will find a reg key, that changes this value and also a cab file to do the same thing.
on a device with an ARM cpu, the folder 2577\ on the storage card will be monitored for autorun.exe and execute it, when the card is inserted. i also packed 3 different autorun.exe files in there, one by me, one by navigon, and one by igo, hoping at least one of them would work with a proper certificate. what you'd need to do, is extract it, and copy it to the storage card, so the path is \Storage Card\2577\Autorun.exe
autorun classic works with the CFG.txt, which is also included and changed to work, as long as your rom is WWE and the storage card is actually named \Storage Card\, if not, edit the path.
until now, i was unable to run it, because the autorun.exe files aren't signed with a trusted certificate either, but i'll give other people time to post ideas, and rethink the thing, maybe i can make it work for you.
still i think, if you are gonna use the device for a few little features, you are not required to use the stock rom, so flashing another rom, which then does not have the certification warning would be the easiest way to go for everyone involved.

Connect it to your PC and use it as a monitoring tool!
Can come handy when benchmarking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695298