Vario software problem...help! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

hi there, as this is my first post and i'm definitely a relative n00b here, please go easy on me.
right, the problem:-
i have a Vario2 on the UK T mobile network and althought it's my first PDA i have to say i love it.the only problem i've had is when i tried to install TomTom.
before this handset i had a Nokia 6680 on which i installed Tomtom 5, so when i got my Vario i thought i'd install the same software ( my Tomtom disk has both the symbian and smartfhone versions on).
the install didn't work so i simply deleted it and forgot about it.
at a later date i got hold of Tomtom 6 and tried to install it but one of the files will not execute so there's definitely something up with my device as i've installed the same software on two other Vario2's without a hitch.
i may be wrong here, and i probably am, but i'm of the opinion that when i removed Tomtom 5 i didn't fully get all the files out and therefore when i try to install Tomtom 6 it detects the presence of some version 5 files and aborts.
if i'm right can anyone tell me how to rectify this and if i'm not can you guys tell me where i'm going wrong.
thanks in advance, i'v been viewing these forums for a while but only just registered today.
this seems like a very friendly and imformative community.

I may be completely wrong here but I think the root casue of your problems is that you first tried to intsall TomTom Mobile (Smartphone version) on the Vario II. The Vario II is a full Windows Mobile Phone Edition (rather than Windows Mobile Smartphone) and therefore requires TomTom Navigator which I'm guessing your TomTom 6 is.
I presume you have double checked the "remove programs" bit in the Vario II settings folder for any TomTom software.
You don't mention where the install is failing - PC side or Vairo side. If it is PC side you may beable to obtain the CAB files from the TomTom disc or the Temp install folder and copy them manually to the Vario Storage Card and then try running the CABs directly on the Vario.
Failing all that I am sure a full Hard Reset on the device to wipe it back to "new" will work but that will mean reinstalling everything else too.

SimonTALM said:
I may be completely wrong here but I think the root casue of your problems is that you first tried to intsall TomTom Mobile (Smartphone version) on the Vario II. The Vario II is a full Windows Mobile Phone Edition (rather than Windows Mobile Smartphone) and therefore requires TomTom Navigator which I'm guessing your TomTom 6 is.
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i agree, i definitely think the problem lies with me trying to install the wrong version of Tomtom 5 first.
SimonTALM said:
I presume you have double checked the "remove programs" bit in the Vario II settings folder for any TomTom software.
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yes, the remove programs box is now empty i.e. i don't have anything else installed at the moment.
SimonTALM said:
You don't mention where the install is failing - PC side or Vairo side. If it is PC side you may beable to obtain the CAB files from the TomTom disc or the Temp install folder and copy them manually to the Vario Storage Card and then try running the CABs directly on the Vario.
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no pc involved in the install process my friend.
i copied the files to the memory card and executed them from there.
i know it's not a software problem as i have installed the exact same software on two other vario's
SimonTALM said:
Failing all that I am sure a full Hard Reset on the device to wipe it back to "new" will work but that will mean reinstalling everything else too.
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sorry to go all n00b again but can you tell me EXACTLY what a hard reset does?
does it put the device back to the way it left the factory? will it even erase calender entries and delete any notes etc?
thanks for taking the time to reply.

Hi Dark Side, yes a hard reset will restore your phone to its out of the box state ... anything you have added like appointments etc.. will be wiped.
If you are going to do a hard reset you might want to install a backup program first ( SPB Backup <click here> is a good one) and do a custom backup where you just backup the calendar/tasks and emails/sms etc.. that way you can just restore these after the reset.
Good luck.

If there is no PC invovled and you are using the *.cab files directly then my guess is the old TomTom left some files about and perhaps some registry junk. You can can search for them but it will be time consuming.
I think a hard reset will be the quickest way to fix it but it will take your Vario II back to the state it was when you took it out of the box first time - no programs, no calendar, no notes etc.
Check out the wiki for how to do a hard rest.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners
You can restore all your data after the Hard Rest if before you do it you make sure you take a backup using a backup tool like SpriteBackup. If you don't have backup software fully sync your Vario II and then take a copy of the Sync Files folder on the PC probably named "My Documents on [ppc name]" in your PC's "My Documents" folder.
N.B. I'd reinstall all software rather than restoring it and do that before restoring your data (or copying the files back from the copy of the original "my documents on [ppc name]") That way you'll make sure there is no risk of data being over written.

thanks for the help.
i'll either report back with the results, or i'll make sure you all get invitations to my funeral after i've banged my head off the wall for the millionth time, lol.

The Dark Side said:
thanks for the help.
i'll either report back with the results, or i'll make sure you all get invitations to my funeral after i've banged my head off the wall for the millionth time, lol.
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UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.

The Dark Side said:
UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.
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Glad you got it working okay in the end
Just a thought, the passkey request might be because you have the "Passkey required" box ticked in the bluetooth settings (settings>connections>bluetooth>security) ... might be worth a look to see if the box is checked and if yes, uncheck it to see if that stops it asking.

The Dark Side said:
UPDATE.
looks like my suspicions were right and there was a few remnants of a previous installation attempt lurking somwhere in my device.
a quick hard reset and i now have Tomtom working perfectly.
well, there's just one glitch...everytime i run it i have to approve the connection to my gps receiver and also enter it's passcode.
can't find the tickbox to prevent this anywhere. grr.
thanks for everyone that replied.
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Glad you got it working, as a matter of interest which bluetooth outgoing COM port did you use for the BT GPS?

Nicky said:
Just a thought, the passkey request might be because you have the "Passkey required" box ticked in the bluetooth settings (settings>connections>bluetooth>security) ... might be worth a look to see if the box is checked and if yes, uncheck it to see if that stops it asking.
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comms manager>settings>bluetooth settings>security shows a box with authentication (passkey) required...this box is not checked.
now, after asking me for the passkey all day ( i've turned it on+off about ten times) it has suddenly stopped asking me and simply started up the app.
hmm.
i use a BT-77 by the way and i used this same receiver with my previous nokia 6680 for over a year without it ever asking for authentication.
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Glad you got it working, as a matter of interest which bluetooth outgoing COM port did you use for the BT GPS?
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i'm connected on COM4..but here's a new twist.
within the last hour the BT receiver has disappeared from the devices section of the bluetooth settings area of the comms manager.
now all day (i only got this working last night) the bt receiver was in the devices folder, but with a question mark next to it whereas now just my earpiece is listed in there.
weird.!

Related

Tomtom 5.1 and Magician problem

I plan a route on my magician using tt5.1, say for example from newmarket to manchester. When i run demo mode on tomtom to see my way, after a few minutes, tomtom will just swith off. I have not yet tried on an actual trip as Im waiting for replacement of my faulty blutoothe reciever.
I thought it was a software incompatibility but i have no softwares installed on my magician yet. I also thought it was due to my simcard so i removed it while running tomtom. I have also tested using 2 different SD cards, 1GB and 256MB. Same problem.
Has someone experienced this problem?
Please help as I am going on a long drive next weekend.
From memory I think that if you're not connected to a GPS receiver your PDA will just shut down the screen if there's no user input within the time set in your power settings.
It's nothing to do with not being connected to a GPS receiver; you can use the Demo in TT without one.
The problem is more than likely related to the 'POIs'. Initially, to test if it is this, turn them off in Tom Tom settings and run the demo again. If it is the problem then goes to the FTP:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/SatNav/Tomtom/
... and download the Patch POI TTN5.zip. This should resolve the issue.
sh500
im already logged in but i cant access the link... it says 530 Permission Denied.
Please repost the link.
In the mean time I will try to turn off the POIs.
Cheers
Once you get the access denied message, keep the FTP window open behind it. Then go to 'File' menu and select 'Login As..' Type in 'xda' (in small letters) for both the username and password; this should get you in.
Using the Windows FTP, you sometimes have to re-type in the username and password to get access.
sh500
got it mate!
in the meantime, i disabled POIs and Im running tt5 for about 10minutes now without interruption.
thank you very much for your help!
one last question please for the sake of curiosity... how do i apply the patch ?
Yep- no problem.
Credit goes to those who originally resolved this issue.
yep! but for the sake of curiosity, how do i apply the patch?
It's a while since I applied the patch but I believe you copy all the files from the zip to the '2577' on the Storage Card (or whatever it's called) and just execute the 'ttn' cab file from the PDA.
cheers mate!
I have tried both techniqs and they both work, so ill stick to just disabling the POIs.
thanks again
nm8 said:
cheers mate!
I have tried both techniqs and they both work, so ill stick to just disabling the POIs.
thanks again
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I personally find POIs very useful- especially if used in conjunction with the freely available CheckPOInt software:
http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/

Missing file MCres???.dll on Bootup !!!! HELP

Anyone have any idea about this message.
Cannot Load resource library \windows\MCres???.dll
hmm very odd.
note sure what is trying to load this :shock:
Yea, I'm getting the same message the last few days, I'm not sure what to make of it, right now it's just an annoyance - I haven't noticed anything broken on the device software wise.
Possibly
Well i noticed pocket controller wasnt working correctly reinstalled it and error went away.
could be co-incidence
no, that sounds right, I had Pocket Controller installed but I think it got corrupted, so it's probably an issue with that piece of software.
i hate reviving dead topics but i'm getting this now. I used to get it before and resolved it with reinstalling pocket controller. but after a recent hard reset i attempted to install pocket controller and the install didnt complete. Now everytime i try to install pocket controll it tells me installation unsuccessful then it shows that mcress???.dll
same problem
I have an IPAQ HX2795 and I am having the same problem after installing Soti Pocket Controler.
My first installation went OK. But I got an updated version of the Soti softaware, it asked me to uninstall the pervious version and I "OK"ed it.
Next thing I know I got an error with "Unable to uninstall" things took a dive from there. I can not see Soti on the list of programs installed on the Mobile unit and I get errors when I try to re-install Soti with ActiveSync
I read few solutions, most of the included hard reset. Since I have never done this before and because I already have multiple programs that I need on the Ipaq, I am trying to find a new solution.
Anybody?
Ali Issa
Problem solved
I called Soti support and they were able to help me get it solved.
The solution was as follows:
- get ActiveSync connected
- Explore into the mobile unit, go into the Windows folder, go into StartUP folder
- Find a file called "CommLoader.exe" and rename it into CommLoader.txt
- Un-cradle our unit and then soft reset
- Your unit should start with no error but it will open the CommLoader file into Mobile Word (Just as a text, no biggy)
- Now your unit is ready but you will need to delete the file CommLoader.txt
- Re-install Pocket Controller by Soti
Support also informed me that this issue will be avoided in future versions
Ali
Figures that I can search for 1/2 an hour with this annoying problem and find the answer here.
I had a feeling it was Soti's issue, but couldn't make it go away.
Not sure I'm even going to reinstall the darn thing- for a while anyway.
Thanks.
ali_issa said:
I called Soti support and they were able to help me get it solved.
The solution was as follows:
- get ActiveSync connected
- Explore into the mobile unit, go into the Windows folder, go into StartUP folder
- Find a file called "CommLoader.exe" and rename it into CommLoader.txt
- Un-cradle our unit and then soft reset
- Your unit should start with no error but it will open the CommLoader file into Mobile Word (Just as a text, no biggy)
- Now your unit is ready but you will need to delete the file CommLoader.txt
- Re-install Pocket Controller by Soti
Support also informed me that this issue will be avoided in future versions
Ali
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well
u never stop amazing me

O2, New rom, and not all of WM5 + route 66 Nav 7 error

Hi guys, I have a small problem, I have a Xda exe, and bought Route 66's Navigator 7 to run on my unit, problem is this when I try to install the cab file (which is sucessful) it fires up: Error one or more required files cannot be found. please reinstall the application. (close window). I have searched the net and this form for answers/solutions but can't seem to find any. When I was on other sites abt wm5 and set up problems I noticed that there is certain things you cannot get access to on the wm5/O2 software. ie, Like tring to set up a blue tooth connection, what you get with o2 is their attempt of a coms software rather than keeping it simple like windows based interface that everyone else has.
Is there anyway you can stop the o2 customisation cab running after a hard reset, as I think o2 are deleteing files that are required to run route 66. Also is there a way to have just wm5 installed the way you would get windows xp out of the box the way microsoft designed it without o2, or T-mobile mucking it up? :!: :?
Oh and by the way Microsoft as released the Beta of ActiveSync 4.2, which cleared up a lot of my connection problems if anyones interested in the link for it come back to me..
I believe that if you hard reset, go through the touchscreen set up and copy/paste tutorial, when it comes to the 'Tap the screen to finish setup' (ie - when all the guff is installed) if you then soft reset it stops the CAB file from installing and you're left with WM5 as Bill Gate$ intended it (Should point out that i've never tried it though, so it may be completely wrong!) Hope this helps
Oink1....Thanks for the reply on that, I will try that next time round and let you know. cheers

Installing TOMTOM6 on microSD card ?? Fix Today Launch Item ???

Since I don't have a lot of space in the internal memory from the phone, I am trying to install the TT6 on the storagecard.
But he always put it into the phone memory, now I can Move it onto the mSD card manually with the PC, but now the link in the TODAY screen doesn't work anymore, how can I fix that ??
TT6 works just fine if I launch it from FileExplorer ..
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Since I don't have a lot of space in the internal memory from the phone, I am trying to install the TT6 on the storagecard.
But he always put it into the phone memory, now I can Move it onto the mSD card manually with the PC, but now the link in the TODAY screen doesn't work anymore, how can I fix that ??
TT6 works just fine if I launch it from FileExplorer ..
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(Edit: I just re-read your post. The procedure below will fix the shortcut in the Programs screen. If you were talking about the TomTom Today plug-in, it won't help. I am not sure which of the two you were referring to.)
There is a cute trick to solve this problem:
- connect your device to your PC
- on the PC, open ActiveSync's "Browse" (note: I use a German Windows, so my translation of menu items may be incorrect. In that case, try whatever sounds similar )
- browse to the TomTom directory on your SD card.
- right-click on the TomTome executable, select "copy"
- browse to the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory
- delete the old, dysfunctional shortcut to TomTom
- right-click anywhere in that directory, and select "paste as shortcut".
Amazingly, ActiveSync has now created a proper Windows Mobile style .lnk file for you. Press F2 to rename it to whatever you want. Note that you do not need to specify the .lnk extension.
Hope that solves your problem!
Cheers
Daniel
I didn't want to start an entire new thread on this and I searched but couldn't find the exact answer:
I'm waiting for my 8525 next week that I ordered from Cingular and want to use my new TT Navigator 6 software on my 8125 in the meantime. Will I be able to use the TomTom product code a second time when i receive my 8525 after I've already activated it on my 8125? So really not trying to do anything illegal, just want to use it for my personal use on my current phone while I wait for my new one.
Will the product code only work once? Has anyone loaded the software on a device, only to get a new device and then activate with no issues the second time on a new device?
Thanks. THIS FORUM ROCKS. My 8125 is a great device from all the tweaks I picked up here at XDA (especially OMAPCLOCK) and I've bookmarked at least 15 Hermes tweaks for my soon-to-arrive 8525.
Michael
mbn said:
I didn't want to start an entire new thread on this and I searched but couldn't find the exact answer:
I'm waiting for my 8525 next week that I ordered from Cingular and want to use my new TT Navigator 6 software on my 8125 in the meantime. Will I be able to use the TomTom product code a second time when i receive my 8525 after I've already activated it on my 8125? So really not trying to do anything illegal, just want to use it for my personal use on my current phone while I wait for my new one.
Will the product code only work once? Has anyone loaded the software on a device, only to get a new device and then activate with no issues the second time on a new device?
Thanks. THIS FORUM ROCKS. My 8125 is a great device from all the tweaks I picked up here at XDA (especially OMAPCLOCK) and I've bookmarked at least 15 Hermes tweaks for my soon-to-arrive 8525.
Michael
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That'll be one to ask tomtom tech.

.cab file problems on 8525

hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!
upgrade to .net 3.5...
weiky79 said:
hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!
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Well yes you can upgrade the .net framework. But I wonder if you are trying to extract the cab files before transfering them to the phone?
Just use activesync explore mode to transfer the cab files (unextracted) to the phone or sd card and then on the phone use file explorer to find them and tap on them.
Things that run all the time and on today screen install to main memory, all the rest install to sdcard (choice appears when you tap on the cab file)
Mike
ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?
weiky79 said:
ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?
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Save the cab file on your pc, go into activesync and select explore......then drag and drop the file onto the explore window. Simple
well, i dL the 3.5 .NET framework. no problems there, but my original problem still exists. I can't open any files to my 8525. when i try to copy or send from pc to phone, my phone isn't even recognized. when i explore my phone and try to push a file through, it doesn't work. This is probably some ridiculous formality, but I can't figure it out! It's starting to really irritate me now
-Weiky79
wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone
weiky79 said:
wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone
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Agh right - I see what the problem was now - I think we were slightly misunderstanding the problem.
Good news - happy days
Mike

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