Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun
Shaunfarris said:
Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun
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Thats odd mines the reverse!!
On my M2000 and M5000 the G signal is about 2 bars, when the 5000 has U coverage my bars are full.
Matt
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My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!
WinCE displays the signal it can achieve. Maybe it's not getting an HSDPA signal where you're at.
omarabdallah said:
My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!
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What I can say is that you can only see "H" when you have HSDPA signal and also when your using your O2 to surf the web or checking email or doing some data transfer via 3G.
Other than that, you will only see "3G"
That is what's happening for my Dopod 838 pro.
I'm getting my Atom Life later in the afternoon
omarabdallah said:
My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!
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I have exactly same problem, my Hermes works perfectly well but the Atom Life never shows the H, I spoke to my operator and they showed me an Atome life (Chinese version) and that showed the H, no problem whatsoever but mine (English version) no way it will show, so the people at the operator said I should get it repaired as it should show an H when in HSDPA coverage.
O2 have now had it in for repair twice and last time even said that it does not support HSDPA, I just hope your service center in Kuwait is better than the one in Hong Kong coz they have absolutely no idea about mobile phones.
It should not matter whether WM5 or WM6 according to the operator.
3.5G is the same as HSDPA so there you are correct.
I'm not getting the H sign after I upgraded to WM6. When I was using WM5, the H sign appear when there is 3.5G service.
I contacted O2 support and they ask me to connect to internet when I am in the 3.5G area. I did and the indicator changed to H. So, I replied back to them stating that this is not what it supposed to be (in WM5, you do not need to connect) and they replied that it will be in the list of improvement... sigh...
normally without data passing thru it will fall back to 3G connection, when there is data going thru it will use 3.5G (HSDPA) if available. however i think the today screen or signal update is bugged it never show the current status when changed.
u can try downloading a big file and turn off the screen (hit the power button once) then turn it back on again. it will update the current connection speed.
btw I am using Atom Life WM6 CHT
I am subscribing to a GSM 3G service.
I noticed that Jade's signal reception is a bit weak. In the area where I am living, my 3G signal reception shows only 1 bar whereas a Kaiser (in the same house) shows 3 bars. And intermittently it goes to "no service".
Does anyone else experience the same problem ?
+1 : same signal reception.
With an Herald (P4350 without 3G) i had 3 ou 4 bars on gsm...
+1
my old Cruise/polaris htc better than jade in reception3g
+1
I'm very sad because i love my jade but he's a little bit weak in signal reception...
what can we do ?
To me, it seems the same as with HTC Artemis.
azahidi said:
I am subscribing to a GSM 3G service.
I noticed that Jade's signal reception is a bit weak. In the area where I am living, my 3G signal reception shows only 1 bar whereas a Kaiser (in the same house) shows 3 bars. And intermittently it goes to "no service".
Does anyone else experience the same problem ?
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yep 3g signal reception is too bad on jade.. when i sent it for htc, they just replaced the main board, but still the 3g reception is poor, so i switched to GSM.
Hi i have the HD2 on 02 and when im in a 3G area my network operater changes to show 3G 02-UK but my signal bars dont change they stay the same as
(the 8th one down on the left of page 39)
the symbol to the left of the signal bars shows H with two arrows i havent seen my signal bars change to show
(5th one down on the right of page 39)
why is this?
Am i connected to 3G?
I have never seen my signal bars change like the ones on page 39/40?
http://www.o2.co.uk/deviceinfo/device-pdfs/htchd2eng.pdf
The manual is wrong.
My O2 HD2 on t-mobile shows 3G/G/H in a white box when no data connection on.
When data connection is on, you will see 3G/H/G (and possibly E [t-mobile dont have E]) with arrows, indicating data is on.
The manual suggests that the signal icon will intregrate with the data icon whereas we see it as data icon then signal icon.
What you are seeing is correct.
When it shows 3G with arrows, you are connected to 3G, H is slightly faster 3G, E is edge (slightly faster 2G) and G is GPRS 2G.
ok thats cool so when i see the H with arrows this is faster than 3G so what are the actual speeds of 3G & this H thingy? and does this mean that my HD2 is connected to a faster connection than my mates iGay 3GS
HSPDA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
The actual speeds may vary, depending on network, tower distance, how many people connecting on that tower etc etc.
basically
GPRS=2G
EDGE=2.5G
3G=3G
H (HSDPA)=3.5G
Hello All,
I just recently purchased the AT&T nexus one and I just want to make sure my understanding of my question is correct or not. I have noticed that when I am at my house and if I have 3g enabled the signal bars next to the 3g icon are somewhere between 2-4 bars and are always fluctuating, But if i enable the option for use only 2G networks obviously the H or 3g icon disappear and the EDGE icon shows up but the signal strength is at a full 5 bars all the time not fluctuating. It was my understanding that the signal strength bars were completely seperate from the 3g or 2g icons. I thought that the signal strength bars represent my cell signal and whatever icon showed up was the data coverage in the area but they aren't related? Is this correct or is it that the signal strength bars represent the signal of the 3g or 2g?
The signal strength bar represents the 2g or3g signal strength.
Both of you are correct. To make calls or text the signal bars are need to use data the icons are needed.
But you don't make calls on 3g or edge. So I don't understand why the signal strength bars are lower when on 3g as opposed to edge unless its wat the first Guy said. And that doesn't seem correct cause that's basically saying my cell service is worse and I would have a higher chance of getting dropped or no calls at all when I am on 3g as opposed to edge.
not sure about your networks but on every other 3G network you make both call and data,,,
rimrocka0834 said:
But you don't make calls on 3g or edge. So I don't understand why the signal strength bars are lower when on 3g as opposed to edge unless its wat the first Guy said. And that doesn't seem correct cause that's basically saying my cell service is worse and I would have a higher chance of getting dropped or no calls at all when I am on 3g as opposed to edge.
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A couple of notes here:
- All you're seeing here is that 3G service is weaker than 2G/EDGE service at your house. Perhaps there are more EDGE towers around you than 3G-enabled towers, or EDGE runs on a lower frequency such as 850MHz that penetrates through walls better.
- If your 3G service completely drops out, you should fall back to EDGE during the call. There shouldn't be any interruption, but there's a small chance that the call will drop when this happens.
The latter happens to me on TMO all the time if I go into weak 3G, and I've never had a dropped call or issue because of it - so really, as long as you have solid EDGE service, phone calls shouldn't be a problem for you. Note that when you fall back to EDGE, you can't use data while on the call, but if you're still on 3G, it's possible to do so. You can of course combat by this by just using wifi.
Now, on the other hand, AT&T's 3G network is overloaded in some markets, so you may have a dropped call because of that - but that's a different issue altogether.
gsvnet thanks a lot! Cleared up everything I was wondering.
im sure this usd to work, but recently ive noticed it doesnt. when im in a call, my data connection disconnects. normally this isnt a problem, but sometimes i will want to look something up on the internet while in a call. like i said, im sure this used to work, but now it doesnt. im on t-mobile UK with an unlimited data plan, i have a near full HSDPA signal. im running the CleanEX DsE v15 ROM with Radio 2.11.
any thoughts
should work on 3g, not on edge or gprs
don't be confused by the left hand network symbol showing an H, that's just what your network is offering. the signal bars icon must also be showing H
i have a H as the left hand icon, and a little h above the signal bars. when i start a call, the smaller h changes to a picture of a phone. if i try and use any web features it just times out. when i hang up the call, my data connection seems to have been disconnected, as it shows a T shape above the signal bars, then changes back to the H after a few seconds