Atom WiFi Wont Connect When Laptop Wireless is On!! - iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom General

This seems bizarre - but when when my laptop (Acer Travelmate 290) internal wireless card is on, the Atom wifi wont connect to the ADSL wireless router (Netcomm NBSPlus4W ADSL2+). It sees it, try to connect but wont connect.
Switch the laptop wireless off and the atom connects Ok. Its not 100% the case but I have switched the laptop off & on enough times to prove itsmore than just coincidence.
I tried the latest Atom wireless ROM upgrade to ...R00045 but no change.
All the other computers are happy to work together including a desktop & wireless IPAQ PDA, but unfortumatley the Atom just doesn't want to play together!
Any of you gurus have any suggestions. The Atom help desk proclaimed they hadn't heard of this problem!
Thks, Chris

Max #of DHCP users or Defined MAC adresses might be helpful in router settings :?:

What happens if you connect the Laptop to the router by cable? is the Atom then able to connect?

check the settings in your wireless connection for the modem, you will probably find it is restricted to one connection at a time, if your laptop is on but you disconnect the wireless access can you then connect your atom if yes this is the problem.
Cheers

Many thanks to you all for your replies.
The number of connections doesn't seem to be a problem as I tested with a desktop wth ethernet connection, two wireless connected devices (a desktop and a wirelss ipaq pda) plus the laptop via ethernet and the Atom connected ok.
The problem seems only related to the laptop internal wireless as I have now changed the laptop to use only an extemal wireless card and now the Atom always connects ok.
All other wireless devices are happy to connect while the laptop internal wireless is used.... BUT not the Atom.
Has been very frustrating and time wasting - just to identify the source of the problem. As to a fix... if you have any further thoughts or suggestions I'd look forward to hearing from you.
thanks Chris

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AS 4.0 kills wireless connection

Just got an XDA Exec, first time PPC user, moving from Palm.
Installed AS 4.0 - no problem
Synced - no problem
Wifi connection to my router - disconnected when Exec plugged in
When I plug in the Exec, a new ip address is created for my laptop in the
169.xx... range. (Local Area Connection , Device: Windows Mobile Device shows up in Network Connections)
Then when the sync starts, the firewall asks if activesync can communicate with another IP address in the 169.xxx.... range (I assume this is the Exec's address)
Sometime during this process, the wireless connection drops. When I unplug the exec, the wireless connection starts working, but drops out every few seconds, and then connects again.
I have to reboot to get a stable wifi connection.
Using Windows XP Pro, 802.11g, Kerio Firewall
Anyone with any ideas ?
Thanks
I have a simular problem, i have a toshiba Portege with built in WiFi, it also has toshiba software than when you "dock it" or plus in a RJ45 network cable, it will disconect the wireless, and vise versa, if you "un dock it" or unplug the RJ45 it will enable the wireless connection.
the has worked for years using activesync 3.8, 4.0 and 4.1 with my XDA2i and XDA2s.
I just got my XDA Exec and just pluged in the usb cable to sync, (activesync works fine) but my laptop then thinks i have a new 10mbs wired connection, so it disables my wireless lan, if i then disable the new conection made, the laptop reverts back to wireless but then it kills the activesync.
so agin Activesysc 4.1 did NOT do this the 2i and 2s but DOSE with the Exec
John
I would not care if it did not work only while the exec was plugged in as it is usually only for a short time while syncing. The big problem is that the wireless connection does not work properly after I unplug the exec. I need to reboot to get it to work again in a stable manner.
Have searched all over the place, have found no info, but did run into a post by a chap in Japan that seems to have a similar problem:
http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/...veSync-4-0-disables-wireless-networking-on-PC
I agree its not a bad problem of it disconecting whilst AS is syncing, but i leave mine in to charge.
at least my WiFi works fine as soon as i remove the USB cable. So i just plug the jasjar into a mains charger and activesync over bluetooth. Could you not do this as well as a tempory solution
John
I charge my Exec on mains so that's not a problem. I'm going to try solving this for a little while longer and then will have to try using bluetooth. Don't have a BT dongle for the laptop so I thought I would try to solve this first before going out to get one.
Lucky for me my laptop also has Bluetooth built in. I did on the XDA2i once manage to do activesync over wireless lan (the xda and laptop both connected to the same router/access point, even after doing some port forwarding i never got to work from other locations back to my laptop at home
cant remember how to set it up, but maybe this is a tempery fix for you rather than getting a BT dongle
Here's a followup
Tried the following things:
1) Disabled the wireless connection, and connected using an ethernet
cable.
Then plugged in Exec and synced. Wired connection held up fine throught
the sync. (When I plugged in the Exec, AS said that the exec was
already being synced to another pc called "Windows PC" so I should give
this pc a new name "Windows PC 2", to separate it out. However, it's
the same laptop! I guess this is because the wired connection gave my
laptop a different ip than the
wireless? - not sure about this). ANyway, no problem witht he
connectiong, before, during or after syncing/connecting the Exec.
2) With a freshly booted laptop and a working wi-fi connection Killed
the wcescomm and wcesmgr processes after syncing. Made no difference.
Wireless connection stil out. Had to reboot.
3) Finally, with a freshly rebooted laptop with a stable wireless
connection, I
- diabled the wireless adapter in Network Connections
- plugged in an ethernet cable, got a good connection
- plugged in the exec
- synced with the wired connection on
- checked that the wired connection was okay
- unplugged the ethernet cable
- enabled the wireless adapter
And no go, no stable connection to the router - until a reboot.
Then finally narrowed it down:
This may seem strange, but the problem with the wireless connection
only occurs if I am using WPA-PSK encryption (which I was using when I
started) on the wireless net. It does not happen if I use WEP or no
encryption. I have changed the security settings (and nothing else)
repeatedly and can recreate this at will.
Also, it has to be the AS 4.0 /Exec causing the problem as I have no
issues with connectivity until I connect the Exec. This too I have
repeatedly checked to ensure that I rule everything else out.
This issue is less to do with ActiveSync 4.X than the version of your Win Mobile OS. Are you running WM5 in your device because if so, it will do exactly that as you described.
For WM3 devices, you can have both AS (both V3.X and V4.X) and WiFI active concurrently. My guess on this is that the MSFT designers are trying to simplify the network side for multi-home devices (to borrow an old IP term here). If both network adaptors were allowed to be up as in the case of WM3, how does the device decide which is the preferred route when you can active sync to your PC via WiFI also ?
What happens to existing sessions when network routes are dynamically altered within the device, etc and so on?
This raises a whole host of issues which need to be thought through.
For that matter have you tried to configure your XP PC with a fixed LAN and WiFi connection and just try telling it to route intelligently by your LAN card instead of WiFi ? :roll:
I can confirm mrandery's findings. I had the same problem. Setting the wireless encryption to Web instead of WPA solved the problem for me as well.
This is bad. I can set my router to use WEP, but can not set my office's one, I'm not authorised to do so. It's default is WPA-TKIP.
as4 conflicts with Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?
postef said:
I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know this now.
Plugged my exec into my laptop when at my brothers and it threw his PC off the network too. If anyone does find a solution to this it would be great.
No body can fix this??
My frind using Wizard and have the same issue.
See http://www.airscanner.com/blog/blog.php?blogid=0601040857
I tried this airfix, but it could not solve the issue.
Ditto same problem.
Hi guys ..
have just read through this post and it is exactly the same issue as a friend of mine.. i thought it was an isolated case however it would appear not .
If possible could all of you that have this issue please reply with the make / model of your WiFi Router and the Wifi card in your laptop .
other info like Router firmware may be good also if you know it ?!
maybe we will see a pattern ?
thanx all
There is a pattern -
- Intel wireless cards (2200 & 2915) & drivers
- Using WPA encryption (WEP and unencrypted not affected)
- it knocks off all wireless computers on the same network (not just the one with AS installed)
Router / PPC / laptop models seem to be unimportant.
Search google groups for a thread entitled " ActiveSync 4.1 kills wireless"
Wonder if this is ROM issue?
I have new (two weeks old) M5000 and only ever charge with usb.
I have d-link wireless router at home, and connected to it are two laptops and a desk top.
I can surf all night without have connection issues from all three PC devices, and from the M5000
All this with AS4 running to keep my sms messages synced up with Outlook (using Jeyo)

internet on laptop via wi-fi from the universal

i do not want buy a 3g data card for the laptop is it possble to feed the laptop
through wi-fi or with a cable from 3g universal
I dont think you can do it by wifi but you can connect the 2 devices by wifi no issue. I tnihk the same applies to the cable either USB or LAN. However you can by bluetooth. All you need to do is set up the exec to be discoverable and get the lap top to look for bluetooth devices and explore the services on them. You will them see the bluetooth modem. Then all you need to do is to create a link to your mobile operators gprs or 3g internet connection in the usual way. You will need to download the setup specific for your network.
Good luck
Also remeber to up the speed from the default as this assumesgprs and you have afaster connection with 3g.
If you do not have bluetooth on your laptop just buy a BT dongle for about £15 then you are away.
Regards
Charlie
An XDA as a router! Wonder if MS will make a version of the Internet Connection Sharing Wizzard for WM5! LOL
I can see the use but not someone actually making it.
There is a thread on this somewhere.
I connect my universal to my laptop via the sync cable and then the laptop uses the universal as a modem and connects to teh web at 3g speed. The universal comes with wireless modem, you just have to play around to get the drivers on the laptop to see the universal when you plug in.
works well.
steve
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37298&highlight=wireless+modem
thanks eveyone been a geat help

Please Help: Activesync again and wireless connection

I have my laptop connected to a router with a Linksys wireless connection. I use Ipass VPN to get through to my work e-mail.
When I install Activesync4.1 it stops me getting access in Ipass. I have tried all options I can find in this forum but with no luck.
Activesync itself works fine when installed.
I have checked with somebody else at work who uses AS with a wired connection and it works. This isn't an option for me.
Try to change your network binding setting, move your Wireless Connect to the top
you can do this by Control Panel > Network Connections > Advance(from the file menu bar) > Advanced Setting.
Hope this helps
I actually have a very similar issue with my MDA. Basically my laptop's onboard Wireless B/G cannot connect to the router when the MDA is connected. I tried your suggestion and now the MDA won't connect. Seems like it's one or the other
Has anyone found a solution to this issue? This is the only issue that I have with my device. Whenever I connect it, I lose my wireless internet on my laptop. If I'm on a wired network at the office, I lose internet access but can still access the intranet. Any advice would be appreciated.
This has nothing to do with wireless. Its the ActiveSync 4.x network install that is not done properly if you have a vpn client running
I had this too
Solution:
Once connected via activesync open network connections
There is a new network connection there then for the WM5 device
Open properties ans de-select all listed items except TCP/IP.
Worked for me
Thanks for the response. I had found your suggestion previously on another board and tried it without success. I'm suspicious that the issue may be the Dell networking control software on my laptop getting confused. As soon as I connect my device, my wireless automatically turned off like it's found another network. I was hoping someone else who's had this problem has been able to solve it. I'd appreciate any other suggestions.
Thielsa same with me. unchecking all boxes didn't work and I'm using an IBM laptop.
Did find something on a microsoft newsgroup and it seems to be a known problem that hasn't been fixed yet.
Not having activesync is the only downer for my wizard though quite a big one doing system restores all the time
not done any testing on this but I use 4.1 and vpn in via wirless.
Try establishing your vpn connection first and then launch outlook. Then connect the device to the pc (via cable).
From memory it seems to be the outlook bit that gets around the problem for me.
I've pretty much narrowed things down to the wireless connection control on my dell laptop. I've been able to get things to work fine now on my wired connection. I looked at the log from my wireless controller, and when I attach the Pocketpc device it reads a wired connection and turns off the wireless. I think that this is specific to laptops (dell only?) that have automatic wireless controllers. Hopefully someone will find a solution to this as it's the only 'bug' I have left on my device.

Use Wizard's WiFi Connection on PC as a WiFi Network Adapter

Hi All, i'm not sure if this has been mentioned on this forum or if it is even possible, but is it possible to use the wizard's wifi capability's on the pc as a wifi network adapter? I would love it if I could connect my wizard, via usb, to my pc, and use it as a wifi adapter to connect to my router? Thanks!
Possible solution...
I think you can. If you have activesync installed, you can connect your ppc to your laptop/desktop and specify that you can use the desktop's internet connection ("This computer is connected to: Automatic/Work Network/The Internet"). If your laptop has a wifi connection to your router, then you're all set!
Hope this helps!
Quakie
The thing is that I would like to use the wizard as my wifi connection for my laptop. My laptop does not have built in wireless, so instead of buying a wireless card for my laptop, I would like to use the wizard's built in wifi as a replacement, sorta like a wifi card for my laptop.
in theory it sounds like a good idea, and might even work-- i would like to know how to do this just in case i ever need it.
but in your case, you might want to look at mpci/cardbus wifi adapters, get a good mpci card if your laptop supports it.
i have a intel centrino branded card that came with my dell 600m, i noticed a couple pulls on ebay just like it last week for about $25?
and on the upper hand, if you ever need to break into some locked networks, backtrax2 supports that card fully.

WIFI Access through Laptop

Hi,
need some help here. Want to know how am i going to access internet with PDA through wireless laptop... First experience: When i connect my laptop with LAN cable to home modem/router (wired) and USB cradled it to my PDA, my PDA (Dopod 838 pro WM6 Schap 4.22 ROM) surfs internet brilliantly. Second: when i use my wifi through my laptop (same home wireless modem/router) and USB cradled it with my PDA and try to surf internet with my PDA, the connection between my laptop and router seems to be lost. Then i disconnected my PDA and laptop, the wireless connection between laptop and router lost forever. need to switch on and off again to connect it. My router: WPA /TKIP secured with no MAC filtered, All auto detect for IP, DNS. Laptop also has been tick for Internet connection sharing.
Pliz help newbie here, cos i've been trying to solve these by trial and error for a few days already and also search in this forum but cant find any solutions. if someone happens to know where the link of this solution please guide me. thank you in advance.

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