AS 4.0 kills wireless connection - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Just got an XDA Exec, first time PPC user, moving from Palm.
Installed AS 4.0 - no problem
Synced - no problem
Wifi connection to my router - disconnected when Exec plugged in
When I plug in the Exec, a new ip address is created for my laptop in the
169.xx... range. (Local Area Connection , Device: Windows Mobile Device shows up in Network Connections)
Then when the sync starts, the firewall asks if activesync can communicate with another IP address in the 169.xxx.... range (I assume this is the Exec's address)
Sometime during this process, the wireless connection drops. When I unplug the exec, the wireless connection starts working, but drops out every few seconds, and then connects again.
I have to reboot to get a stable wifi connection.
Using Windows XP Pro, 802.11g, Kerio Firewall
Anyone with any ideas ?
Thanks

I have a simular problem, i have a toshiba Portege with built in WiFi, it also has toshiba software than when you "dock it" or plus in a RJ45 network cable, it will disconect the wireless, and vise versa, if you "un dock it" or unplug the RJ45 it will enable the wireless connection.
the has worked for years using activesync 3.8, 4.0 and 4.1 with my XDA2i and XDA2s.
I just got my XDA Exec and just pluged in the usb cable to sync, (activesync works fine) but my laptop then thinks i have a new 10mbs wired connection, so it disables my wireless lan, if i then disable the new conection made, the laptop reverts back to wireless but then it kills the activesync.
so agin Activesysc 4.1 did NOT do this the 2i and 2s but DOSE with the Exec
John

I would not care if it did not work only while the exec was plugged in as it is usually only for a short time while syncing. The big problem is that the wireless connection does not work properly after I unplug the exec. I need to reboot to get it to work again in a stable manner.
Have searched all over the place, have found no info, but did run into a post by a chap in Japan that seems to have a similar problem:
http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/...veSync-4-0-disables-wireless-networking-on-PC

I agree its not a bad problem of it disconecting whilst AS is syncing, but i leave mine in to charge.
at least my WiFi works fine as soon as i remove the USB cable. So i just plug the jasjar into a mains charger and activesync over bluetooth. Could you not do this as well as a tempory solution
John

I charge my Exec on mains so that's not a problem. I'm going to try solving this for a little while longer and then will have to try using bluetooth. Don't have a BT dongle for the laptop so I thought I would try to solve this first before going out to get one.

Lucky for me my laptop also has Bluetooth built in. I did on the XDA2i once manage to do activesync over wireless lan (the xda and laptop both connected to the same router/access point, even after doing some port forwarding i never got to work from other locations back to my laptop at home
cant remember how to set it up, but maybe this is a tempery fix for you rather than getting a BT dongle

Here's a followup
Tried the following things:
1) Disabled the wireless connection, and connected using an ethernet
cable.
Then plugged in Exec and synced. Wired connection held up fine throught
the sync. (When I plugged in the Exec, AS said that the exec was
already being synced to another pc called "Windows PC" so I should give
this pc a new name "Windows PC 2", to separate it out. However, it's
the same laptop! I guess this is because the wired connection gave my
laptop a different ip than the
wireless? - not sure about this). ANyway, no problem witht he
connectiong, before, during or after syncing/connecting the Exec.
2) With a freshly booted laptop and a working wi-fi connection Killed
the wcescomm and wcesmgr processes after syncing. Made no difference.
Wireless connection stil out. Had to reboot.
3) Finally, with a freshly rebooted laptop with a stable wireless
connection, I
- diabled the wireless adapter in Network Connections
- plugged in an ethernet cable, got a good connection
- plugged in the exec
- synced with the wired connection on
- checked that the wired connection was okay
- unplugged the ethernet cable
- enabled the wireless adapter
And no go, no stable connection to the router - until a reboot.
Then finally narrowed it down:
This may seem strange, but the problem with the wireless connection
only occurs if I am using WPA-PSK encryption (which I was using when I
started) on the wireless net. It does not happen if I use WEP or no
encryption. I have changed the security settings (and nothing else)
repeatedly and can recreate this at will.
Also, it has to be the AS 4.0 /Exec causing the problem as I have no
issues with connectivity until I connect the Exec. This too I have
repeatedly checked to ensure that I rule everything else out.

This issue is less to do with ActiveSync 4.X than the version of your Win Mobile OS. Are you running WM5 in your device because if so, it will do exactly that as you described.
For WM3 devices, you can have both AS (both V3.X and V4.X) and WiFI active concurrently. My guess on this is that the MSFT designers are trying to simplify the network side for multi-home devices (to borrow an old IP term here). If both network adaptors were allowed to be up as in the case of WM3, how does the device decide which is the preferred route when you can active sync to your PC via WiFI also ?
What happens to existing sessions when network routes are dynamically altered within the device, etc and so on?
This raises a whole host of issues which need to be thought through.
For that matter have you tried to configure your XP PC with a fixed LAN and WiFi connection and just try telling it to route intelligently by your LAN card instead of WiFi ? :roll:

I can confirm mrandery's findings. I had the same problem. Setting the wireless encryption to Web instead of WPA solved the problem for me as well.

This is bad. I can set my router to use WEP, but can not set my office's one, I'm not authorised to do so. It's default is WPA-TKIP.

as4 conflicts with Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG

I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?

postef said:
I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?
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I know this now.
Plugged my exec into my laptop when at my brothers and it threw his PC off the network too. If anyone does find a solution to this it would be great.

No body can fix this??
My frind using Wizard and have the same issue.

See http://www.airscanner.com/blog/blog.php?blogid=0601040857

I tried this airfix, but it could not solve the issue.

Ditto same problem.

Hi guys ..
have just read through this post and it is exactly the same issue as a friend of mine.. i thought it was an isolated case however it would appear not .
If possible could all of you that have this issue please reply with the make / model of your WiFi Router and the Wifi card in your laptop .
other info like Router firmware may be good also if you know it ?!
maybe we will see a pattern ?
thanx all

There is a pattern -
- Intel wireless cards (2200 & 2915) & drivers
- Using WPA encryption (WEP and unencrypted not affected)
- it knocks off all wireless computers on the same network (not just the one with AS installed)
Router / PPC / laptop models seem to be unimportant.
Search google groups for a thread entitled " ActiveSync 4.1 kills wireless"

Wonder if this is ROM issue?
I have new (two weeks old) M5000 and only ever charge with usb.
I have d-link wireless router at home, and connected to it are two laptops and a desk top.
I can surf all night without have connection issues from all three PC devices, and from the M5000
All this with AS4 running to keep my sms messages synced up with Outlook (using Jeyo)

Related

Internet via bluetooth?

Hi all
Firstly apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. Searching bluetooth returns ... too many results to sift through.
OK, I have this setup. I connect my laptop to the net using either the router OR network cable. My laptop is equipped with BT.
Is there any way to browse the net from my PDA, by establishing a BT connection from XDA2 to the Laptop?
I know it would be a doddle (I hope) if I were to purchase a wifi SD card, but if I can avoid the expense it would be great.
Thanks in advance.
One way would be through BlueTooth ActiveSync. As when in the cradle, when your PPC is connected to your PC through ActiveSync, internet connectivity is through the PC. I use it whenever I am in proximity to my BT laptop. Works well!
If you go to Options in ActiveSync, click the Rules tab, check Open ActiveSync when my mobile device connects. and have the Connection set to The Internet or Work depending how your network is set up. Then establish an ActiveSync connection (USB, serial, Bluetooth or IrDA) and it will allow you use Internet programs like PocketIE, Pocket Outlook, etc.[/b]
I thank you both for your very very quick response.
Yes, both methods work. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am one happy bunny.
Cheers
Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!
Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!
maybe it's a firewall issue
try messing around with the ping program
on your pocketpc and see if you can ping the ip of your computer
and on it's gateway and dns
also make sure your dns settings on your pocketpc is set to the same as your pc
pocket ping
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=11879
Thanks for the advice. Bit stumped really:
My PC has a static IP address (10.130.16.84) I run pocket ping on the XDA and it says it's IP address is 192.168.55.101 the network is DHCP enabled. Neither of them can ping the other one (so there is no way I can connect to the proxy from my XDA2). Any ideas why my IP address isn't in our LAN range.
Just out of interest I can use a Dell X3i and connect to the network wirelessly no problem at all.
Further to baffle everyone - If i disconnect bluetooth and cradle it. I get the same Ip address but can connect to the internet no problem! So this would lead me to believe that all the connection and activesync settings are correct.
not sure here are some guides
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449
Thanks for the help but the guides didn't fix the problem.
I eventually got it working (and a better bluetooth connection in the process) by downloading the slightly newer version of the XTND Blue Manager software http://www.windigosys.com/support.htm
I can now suft the internet on the XDA over activesync and syncrhonise files ok. Slightly slow but this I expect with what is basically a glorified serial port!
The only slight niggle I have now is that ActiveSync always reverts back to COM1 as the default port when I reboot my machine. Is there any way to stick it to com3?
it's blazing away at 700K/sec at least so the specs says

KJAM seems to hang my notebook vaio wireless Internet..

HI,
I have been using a jam for about 1 1/2 years. I got my K-JAM today. It seems when I plug my K-JAM into to usb, my wireless internet connectivity hangs on my computer and I need to unplug the K-JAM and reboot my machine to get it back online. When it hangs the IP of the wireless card also changes but the connectivity is not there. Sometimes I have to reboot the Belkin Router to which the notebook is connecting. When I plug the Jam in, I dont have this problem. When I plug the K-JAM in I am able to sync with the computer however. It seems that there is perhaps a clash between My wireless network card and a componet in the K-Jam. Any ideas ??
Lots of USB problems with Activesync . It seems the new drivers strip memory allocations for other devices , my work laptop blue screens costantly asking me to remove the drivers. You could try activesync 4.1 available at buzzdev.net this may help with your problem.
Thanks for the suggestion wardy. I tried it and still no work. I wonder if it has something to do with the J-JAM DHCP server ( does it even have one ) if so why would it try assign an ip to my notebooks wifi card ?
I really doubt the K-JAM has a DHCP server... why would it? Its not switch or a gateway.
Thats what I would think. But as soon as I plug the KJAM in my wireless card hangs and when I look at its ip it is completey differnt range.... I am really confused. Also I have tried this several times, but when I plug the Kjam into my notebook, the whole network goes offline (internet) test from another computer on the network) and I have to reboot the reuter. Very strange ( am am not a noob with computers etc so it is really iritating me )

Please Help: Activesync again and wireless connection

I have my laptop connected to a router with a Linksys wireless connection. I use Ipass VPN to get through to my work e-mail.
When I install Activesync4.1 it stops me getting access in Ipass. I have tried all options I can find in this forum but with no luck.
Activesync itself works fine when installed.
I have checked with somebody else at work who uses AS with a wired connection and it works. This isn't an option for me.
Try to change your network binding setting, move your Wireless Connect to the top
you can do this by Control Panel > Network Connections > Advance(from the file menu bar) > Advanced Setting.
Hope this helps
I actually have a very similar issue with my MDA. Basically my laptop's onboard Wireless B/G cannot connect to the router when the MDA is connected. I tried your suggestion and now the MDA won't connect. Seems like it's one or the other
Has anyone found a solution to this issue? This is the only issue that I have with my device. Whenever I connect it, I lose my wireless internet on my laptop. If I'm on a wired network at the office, I lose internet access but can still access the intranet. Any advice would be appreciated.
This has nothing to do with wireless. Its the ActiveSync 4.x network install that is not done properly if you have a vpn client running
I had this too
Solution:
Once connected via activesync open network connections
There is a new network connection there then for the WM5 device
Open properties ans de-select all listed items except TCP/IP.
Worked for me
Thanks for the response. I had found your suggestion previously on another board and tried it without success. I'm suspicious that the issue may be the Dell networking control software on my laptop getting confused. As soon as I connect my device, my wireless automatically turned off like it's found another network. I was hoping someone else who's had this problem has been able to solve it. I'd appreciate any other suggestions.
Thielsa same with me. unchecking all boxes didn't work and I'm using an IBM laptop.
Did find something on a microsoft newsgroup and it seems to be a known problem that hasn't been fixed yet.
Not having activesync is the only downer for my wizard though quite a big one doing system restores all the time
not done any testing on this but I use 4.1 and vpn in via wirless.
Try establishing your vpn connection first and then launch outlook. Then connect the device to the pc (via cable).
From memory it seems to be the outlook bit that gets around the problem for me.
I've pretty much narrowed things down to the wireless connection control on my dell laptop. I've been able to get things to work fine now on my wired connection. I looked at the log from my wireless controller, and when I attach the Pocketpc device it reads a wired connection and turns off the wireless. I think that this is specific to laptops (dell only?) that have automatic wireless controllers. Hopefully someone will find a solution to this as it's the only 'bug' I have left on my device.

Atom WiFi Wont Connect When Laptop Wireless is On!!

This seems bizarre - but when when my laptop (Acer Travelmate 290) internal wireless card is on, the Atom wifi wont connect to the ADSL wireless router (Netcomm NBSPlus4W ADSL2+). It sees it, try to connect but wont connect.
Switch the laptop wireless off and the atom connects Ok. Its not 100% the case but I have switched the laptop off & on enough times to prove itsmore than just coincidence.
I tried the latest Atom wireless ROM upgrade to ...R00045 but no change.
All the other computers are happy to work together including a desktop & wireless IPAQ PDA, but unfortumatley the Atom just doesn't want to play together!
Any of you gurus have any suggestions. The Atom help desk proclaimed they hadn't heard of this problem!
Thks, Chris
Max #of DHCP users or Defined MAC adresses might be helpful in router settings :?:
What happens if you connect the Laptop to the router by cable? is the Atom then able to connect?
check the settings in your wireless connection for the modem, you will probably find it is restricted to one connection at a time, if your laptop is on but you disconnect the wireless access can you then connect your atom if yes this is the problem.
Cheers
Many thanks to you all for your replies.
The number of connections doesn't seem to be a problem as I tested with a desktop wth ethernet connection, two wireless connected devices (a desktop and a wirelss ipaq pda) plus the laptop via ethernet and the Atom connected ok.
The problem seems only related to the laptop internal wireless as I have now changed the laptop to use only an extemal wireless card and now the Atom always connects ok.
All other wireless devices are happy to connect while the laptop internal wireless is used.... BUT not the Atom.
Has been very frustrating and time wasting - just to identify the source of the problem. As to a fix... if you have any further thoughts or suggestions I'd look forward to hearing from you.
thanks Chris

Using my wizard to use my PC's internet via USB

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i tried searching, but i get too much junk in the search.
when i connect using wifi, my connection keeps getting dropped, so is there a way to do it with USB?
thanks
Yes, AS by default shares the Internet connection of the desktop.
but its not working for me, i can't connect to aim with it or use PIE.
thanks
probably have to turn your proxy setting off.
how do i turn off proxy?
everytime i plug into active sync my phone gets an error like, ip address no defined or something.
thanks
I have the same problem is there a solution?
Please help?
Any fix for USB internet connection failure?
nicosomers said:
I have the same problem is there a solution?
Please help?
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I think it is quite a common problem, come on guys can we get a fix for this?
Some of my data for you to consider:
Desktop PC connected directly to a router, Wizard, Prophet & Blue Angel all connect to internet via usb.
Laptop wirelessly connected to the same router none of the PDA's connect.
Laptop connected wirelessly to a different router (at work) again none of the PDA's connect.
Is it something to do with a wireless protocol?
Laptop and Desktop have slighlty different frewall software but I think I disabled it all on the laptop & still no joy.
Anyone able to use USB and wireless connection to connect to the internet?
I did see a registry hack offered by Dell, it relates to 'LS???' or something, tried it, no joy.
Any suggestions?
Try bluetooth ActiveSync instead of USB
Not really a fix for the USB problem but I can now do ActiveSync and browse the net together.
I have had a bluetooth dongle for the laptop for 'years' but never used it with the PDA. After some trial & error (about 45 minutes, not bad for me) I can now do ActiveSync with Bluetooth AND have access to the net THROUGH the laptop.
Speed is not as good as WiFi but it does work.
I read a tutorial some months ago on MoDaCo about setting up AS with BT. Suggest a search if you can't set it up by trial & error.

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