T-mobile MDA/Sandisk 2GB - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I want to get a 2GB Sandisk and I was wondering what is the cheapest way to get all of the 2gb to work on the tmobile mda? I heard i gotta buy a card reader or something but is this the only way? also what is the best brand 2GB/Card Reader (if i have to get a card reader)? Is 2GB the highest I can go with the MDA? thats all I hear people talking about.
Also what exactly would I need a 128mb backup card for? I already changed to the custom rom (2.17) so im j/w what its for

the cheapest way would be to put the card in your pda and transfer the data you want to it, no card reader needed, tho a card readers faster

so what exactly is the point of the card reader? I've read about some people being limited to 1gb with the 2gb miniSD cards

sorry end of my post should have read, a card reader writes faster.
think speed is the advantage

Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.

markgamber said:
Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.
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what exactly is faster? the transfer with a card reader? just a little confused what brand should I be goin with for both?

can anyone help with the brand for the miniSD and the card reader? Have seen people post about problems with formatting ni such

I personally use a generic 2gb card I bought off eBay for a total of $60.00 US. Similar to http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-MiniSD-2GB-...temZ9705544950QQcategoryZ118260QQcmdZViewItem.
The reader I use I also got off eBay (it came with a 256mb MMC card I bought about a year ago for my old phone). It is basically the same as http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-SD-MMC-...94559134QQcategoryZ103409QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
Copying 1gb worth of MP3 files to the card using ActiveSync 4.1 takes about 20 minutes. Copying them using the card reader only takes about 5 minutes.
Hope that helps.

i got a sandisk one off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
ordered myself one last week 2GB SANDISK MINISD , got it saturday just gone and no problems £49 total including p&p + insurance
think there going for £45 UKP inc p&p now

scrap that £41 inc p&p!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2GB-SANDISK-M...605200179QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SanDisk are a good reliable maker of memory cards and cheap. I have not had one fail on me yet. 2GB is the highest anyone makes at the moment on MiniSD. As for card readers, anything made in the last year should work as you just use an adaptor to put the MiniSD into a SD slot, if it doesn't have a MiniSD slot. Oh yes, SanDisk MiniSD cards come with the adaptor.

Has anyone focused on the SLC / MLC flash-chip layouts being used?
SLC is faster, more reliable, better compatible, lower power consumption and has longer lifetime but is more expensive. Chip mainly made by Samsung.
Mobymemory sells them in uk @ approx 60 GBP
MLC is the opposite. Chip mainly made by Toshiba. Branded as Sandisk, Kingston and others.
It is rumoured that a lot of high speeds cards are all SLC, but until now I havent found any confirmation.

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Want to buy a 2gb Mini SD Card... Do they work?

I only got my XDA Mini S yesterday, so I don't have any memory cards for it yet.
I kind of figured that as I'm going down the consolidation route (ie Phone, PDA, iPod into one device so I don't have to carry a rucksack with me everywhere!) I might as well get as much memory as possible, so I can stick a bunch of MP3's on there.
I can get 1gb for between £40 and £50 (GBP), but haven't seen many places selling 2gb.
I also wanted confirmation that the Wizard will actually recognise 2gb.
Any ideas on places in the UK that I can get a 2gb card from (assuming they work!)?
Hmm, just found this:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_2048mb_MOBY_001
It says it's compatible with the QTEK 9100 and T-Mobile Vario, so I assume this is the one to go for... Just a bit concerned that it's unbranded (I usually get Sandisk or Kingston :? )
Hi,
I use a 2GB mini-sd card in my MDA Vario - no problem, it works fine.
The card is unbranded and available at www.memoryworld.de for 125 euro.
Greetings, Newchurch
I got the one off of mobymemory - works a charm
Can't say the same for the miniSD > USB stick that they gave for free with it, though.
Sweet, looks like I'll be getting one of these then!
I'm really starting to like this device now I've joined this board...
When I first started using it out of the box, I had to reboot it every 10 minutes. It very nearly got returned to the shop!
Thanks for your help guys!
Yeah i bought a 1Gb miniSD mobymemory card, brillient! Cheeper and faster than my scandisk 1Gb mini SD, (found out when using tomtom its data accessing times are faster) And its like £1 for postage and got delivered the next day! brillient!
Sounds like im a promoter witht the site or summit but no, its actualy gud!
That's one of the reasons I got the mobymemory one... it's an SLC (single layer) rather than an MLC (guess), so it's a fair bit faster
Excellent, thanks for your comments.
I'll order one tomorrow!
Another vote for the moby memory one, I ordered mine on friday afternoon, and it arrived yesterday! Brilliant
It's definatly much faster transfering with a card reader rather than the phones connection though
Just be careful with the moby memory cards. They are very thin and fragile. I have one and it split when trying to remove it from the USB stick they supplied with it. Comparing the Moby card with Scandisk you can see that it's a lot more fragile and flexible than the Scandisk one.
I'm not sure I'll buy another because of this.
I don't think it's physically thinner than any other miniSD card, as that is a tight specification. The subtrate may be thinner, however - I haven't checked, nor do I particularly want to
That said... let's face it.. all of these cards are stupid-tiny, and they're getting tinier ( I made a comparison chart for tweakers.net a long time ago, see: http://www.pointzero.nl/dump/cards.jpg ). I'd say that any primarily plastic object that's only 1.2mm thick demands to be treated with respect
( If you go way back to the MMC cards - they were only 0.76mm thick while being very large - crazy! )
I second your notion about that card > USB reader they gave with it, though. First of all - mine doesn't work. Big deal. But second - it was nearly *impossible* to get the card out of the thing again. I definitely won't even bother to try and use it with this 2GB one even if it does magically start working.
ZeBoxx said:
I don't think it's physically thinner than any other miniSD card, as that is a tight specification. The subtrate may be thinner, however - I haven't checked, nor do I particularly want to
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You're probably right but the Scandisk card is definitely stiffer than the Moby one. Just warning people to be careful if they have the Moby card as it doesn't seem to be as robust in construction.
ordered one from mobymemory.com
I never recieved it.
no tracking ;-(
I like to get one!
As Mobymemory seems to ship everything in a manner where you have to sign for its receipt (well, I did anyway), they should be able to tell that you never received the package; short of them being lying scumbags
If they tell you that you did receive it, ask for a copy (scan, fax) of the release form. If they can't show it to you, they have no case, and you can take it up with your credit card issuer (if paid by credit card), or you can pursue other methods of getting the card / money back.
If they can show it to you, and it's not your signature, then try and figure out whose it is - family member, roommate, whatever, and take the issue up with them.
If it -is- your signature, then please seek professional help
Bah!
I ordered a 2Gb Moby card and (as usual) it turned up in a flash (geddit?). Excellent. Slapped it in the (supplied) adapter, slapped that in my card reader and hey Tesco! Not accessible. B*gger! So I booted up my (custom SD-enabled*) laptop and transferred all the data of onto the hard disk. Then I swapped the cards in the adapter and transferred all of that data off onto the 2Gb card. Wahey!
Great, except that the folders were called &*^&^%£ and )!(£(!")*(. Doh! Looks like my laptop reader couldn't address the card.
So I spent the extra £5 and the postage for a card reader and now you tell me that the card reader is too brutish for the card. Damn, damn and thrice damn!
(* My laptop has an SD card re-writer in it, but the catch is broken so I have to stretch an elastic band round the keybord to keep the card in!)
DM.
P.S. Do you think I'm addicted to parentheses ?
I ordered mine today and specified Special Delivery...
I'm hoping to have it tomorrow.
I took the risk and ordered a 1GB mini SD from mobymemory. Got it by recorded delivery the next day! Also the first time ever a retailer charged me the correct postage! (£1.20)
The card works fine and is not flimsy as someone commented earlier. It comes with a little adpater for card readers etc..
Good work fellas..
i also bought a 2GB card for the 9100 from MobyMemory because of this topic. arrived in 3 days (from UK to FR) and so far so good! 1950MB free out of the box (awesome!) and not flimsy or cheap feeling at all. use the adapter for photos direct to the DVD player and it works great! good price too.
thanks for the tip!
Qtek 9100 FR -flashed with WWE ROM 1.6.7.1
2GB Mini-SD from Moby Memory
Voice Command (UK female voice, love it!)
First - Hi to everybody! It's my first post here...
(and unfortunately not last :wink: )
I'm new and I'm looking for some help, advice and independent opinions.
I've bought O2 XDA mini S yesterday, and today I'm looking for memory card...
I went through MobyMemory offer and I've found "High-Speed 2GB mini-SD Card HIGH SPEED Read - 9mb per sec, Write - 8mb per sec transfers" for only £64.99 - is it good price (as for today) or should I look for another shop / brand?
What are your opinions after few months of using MobyMemory mini-SD cards?
Any issues, broken/faulty cards? Are you still happy with this purchase?
Next few question marks - are these cards really noticeable faster than i.e "SanDisk 2GB mini-SD Card"? SanDisk is £10 cheaper... is the speed of the PDA impacted by the speed of memory card used (noticeable) or the difference is only when you need to transfer large amount of data to the card (from the PC for example)?
This one is (probably) very simply for you - What are the pros and cons of having one 2GB card or two 1GB each?
Using two cards should be more comfortable, of course as long as you did't lose one...
Is 1GB memory card enough for everyday use (2 full lenght films + few videos + 10 albums + some additional applications...)?
How much (audio / video) data I can fit on 1GB card?
And last but not least - I'm going to buy 17-in-1 card reader (MobyMemory special deal) to serve this card - is anybody using it, any suggestions, opinions?...
Sorry for so many questions
Thanks in advance
I have a 1gb and 2gb mobymemory cards. Highly recommended and faultless. I have the 1gb for a year and 2gb for a month. they are better than normal cards and are mono-density or something and fast. yes 64.99 is a good deal for 2gb got mine for 79.99.
Movies about 150-200 mb each, and music if compress at 64kps WMA about 2-3 mb each song so yes should be able to fit them on a 1gb card - I would prefer 2gb more room and more likely to lose if keep taking in and out if you have too cards.
Your choice though .
Welcome to the wizard ownera club - you will have many good hours fun with this great device.

2GB mini SD on ebay UK

Wondering what people's thoughts are on this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Speed-2G...593065570QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's not a 'big' brand and the price seems very cheap for a 2GB card.
John
After shipping it's about 20-25 quid cheaper than retail and it claims to be a 150x (22meg a second transfers card).
Only had my Wizard a week and took me a few days to actually find 2gb Mini-SD's in stock with a UK retailer.
I ended up with this:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_2048mb_MOBY_001
However, some of the card readers I have will not read the card via the provided SD adapter - I was warned of this and do have a newish card reader which does, as does the one in my laptop.
Works fine in the Wizard though and tbh speed to me is unimportant considering the speed of the devices processor.
If you get one and have success with it, please drop a note back.
I have seen the Mobymemory one, their price for the 1GB card seems unbeatable pretty much but I'm tempted by this 2GB card as I can get the postage cheaper using a Paypal code as well.
John
I had a Zynet SD card for my XDA2s. It worked beautifully, and continues to work in my digital camera.
I got A 'MyFlash' 2gb 60x mini-sd card off ebay last week. It took like 6 days tops to get here and works great, even in my tempermental in-built SD reader.
How much did you pay for the Myflash one?
Thanks for the feedback on Zynet, tempted to go for this now.
John
Came to about £80 including shipping and insurance
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7589600960&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
I remember reading somewhere that a higher speed SD card will drain the XDA battery faster.
If you're not looking for the fast cards, some reasonable prices here as well:
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Mini-SD
The 2G Sandisk card isn't actually in stock with them yet though.
John
1G is more than enough 4 me...-_-#
I was kinda hoping of picking this up...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EEZEVC/104-8849050-7307124?_encoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
But I don't know if I can wait until May!
I've decided to go for a 1GB card for now, I can always buy another 1GB card so both my HTC devices can benefit from it.
John
4 gig cards are meant to start shipping this month.
OK - i know they will start at an unrealistic premium - but does anyone know if 4 gig (or more that that which is likely to be out by summer) will work in the wizard?
Seems cheap for a 2Gb memory card of any size. I'd recommend mymemory.co.uk for memory cards, and they have a 2Gb Sandisk MicroSD for £54.99.
Seems cheap to me, but sandisk's one of the best makes for memory cards.
i use the moby memory2gb minisd - 80ish quid delivered next day and works well
I think are more cheap at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-2G-mini-SD-...74095023QQcategoryZ118260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I will buy one!
Echilon said:
Seems cheap for a 2Gb memory card of any size. I'd recommend mymemory.co.uk for memory cards, and they have a 2Gb Sandisk MicroSD for £54.99.
Seems cheap to me, but sandisk's one of the best makes for memory cards.
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I have used them often and they offer a good service (based in the chanel islands). However they have been out of stock of the 2 gig cards for a while now.
They have a facility whereby you give them your email and they will contact you when the cards return to stock.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/item_out_of_stock.php?id=1239
Incidentally, I have had only one memory card fail on me, and it was the sandisk 32 meg that came with the siemens SL45 as standard.
The SL45 seemed years before its time - it seems crazy to think there were phones with memory cards in 2000 and even now a minority have them.

4gb micro card for Hermes

I was told by Leaf Wireless, the distributors of HTC in SA and Africa that the Hermes will support a 4gb micro card(Trans Flash).
I am not sure if this has been posted before, but there seemed to be speculation about this in the past on some threads.
Can anyone who has actually tried this confirm.
I am not sure if the new ROM's available have anything to do with this or not.
I believe 4GB requires FAT32 format. Try formatting a 1 or 2GB with FAT32 and see if it operates.
The Hermes can definately handle FAT 32 formated cards. I have flashed my Hermes using a 1GB micro SD card formated to FAT 32 several times with no problems. My 2GB card that I keep in the phone is also formated to FAT 32.
There have been differing reports concerning whether the 4GB SDHC format is supported or not. What we do know is this: SDHC in the registry doesn't stand for SD High Capacity.
speed compare - FAT16 vs. FAT32
I have 512MB Kingston, I tryed to use FAT16 and also FAT32 and benchmark speed on this card - FAT32 was faster, but only at some sizes of files. this results is for FAT32, tomorrow, when I am back to my PC I can format card to FAT16 and update this post with new images. otherwise, for me is 512MB enough. I have mp3 creative zen player, and I dont need use TyTN as video/mp3 player, only as storage for my documents, and installation files, so question if 4GB card work is for only matter of interest.
but there is one important thing. If you using card bigger than 512MB, it is better to use FAT32, coz if you dont you waste your space (it is known problem from PC disks). if someone have a bigger card, than 512MB try to format to FAT16, use pocket mechanic Slack Analysis function and you can see how much space is not used. on my card at this time is on FAT32 only 1,60MB (0,59%). on FAT16 is much more.
all results of benchmark is in archive. tomorrow I will update this post for results on FAT16, and also Slack analysis report.
.:update:.
rest of benchmark, tested FAT16, slack for current cluster size (8kB) is 1.10 % which is 3,40MB instead of 1,60MB for FAT32. This results is only for me, you can have different results, I have used only 50% of capacity.
Did we determine that someone ACTUALLY has a 4gb MicroSD card and IS using it formatted in some way (FAT16/FAT32)?
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
mrvanx said:
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
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How can there not be a demand? My 2GB one is stuffed full!
Zilch.
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
mrvanx said:
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
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So? Even your average iPod user knows you can stuff twice as many MP3s onto a 4GB card as you can with a 2GB one. Surely?
Zilch.
Been a couple of months now.
Anyone tried and succeeded or failed with a 4Gb MicroSD in the Hermes?
SOOOOOOON!
Not here yet, but right around the corner. These are SD NOT SDHC. Should work fine. I will post results when mine arrives.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4159987
If someone can actually get the 4gb card working then i think we have some bright prospects to actually see higher capacities[8gb+] working since they all use the sdhc format. Although i still dont know why the htc peepz didnt put a rubber cover [or even a plastic one for that matter] on the sd slot. Currently there is just soo much potential for dust,grime and moisture to get in there!
I do understand the point that <b>mrvanx </b> is making. The majority of the mobile community today are more than happy with their 1gb cards...and when there is no significant demand...then there is no motif for a [reasonably priced] supply!
I emailed HTC Europe about this and I got a reply that the Hermes is able to work with SDHC Cards, but HTC Europe only advises card up to 2 gig. So....we still don't know anything.....
4Gb SDHC seems not to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308679&page=2&highlight=4gb+micro+sd
Anyone can confirm this? Or maybe someone got it working?
In my area, 4Gb micro SDHC is not even available in shops.
Anyone knows, if there will be 4Gb micro SD (without HC) available?
Regards,
ARo
Confusion
Some people here seem to be talking about SDHC and other SD cards. From what I understand MicroSDHC wont work and no one has tried a 4Gb MicroSD card yet.
If you're in the UK it looks like 4Gb MicroSD cards are now available:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/3359487/Sandisk-Micro-SD-4GB/Product.html
Anyone bought this and tried it yet?
If i could redirect you guys to THIS POST.........anyone confirm my thinking on this?
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
SkyyBoy said:
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
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Remember dude, there has been no such update or even attempt at one yet. You may be quite valuable for testing some patches if you keep hold of it.
ok guys... some info...
There are SDHC drivers for Windows Mobile 5 & 6, they are not included in your ROM's at the moment.
The Hermes USB hardware (Samsung 2440) 'DOES' theoretically support SDHC cards, but there is no way of telling if the firmware on the controller supports it.
If there is a hardware programmer out there that can help i can sacrifice a device...

4 GB Mini SD durability poll

Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
psargent said:
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
Matterhorn said:
Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
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I think it does apply to standard size SD cards too:
I looked at the Sandisk site and the only 4 gig cards that were being sold were listed as SDHC. Nothing on the official site over 2gb that wasn't high capacity. I was able to track down the Trancend card you were talking about from a reseller (and numerous other ones including Ebay) however, if you go to the official Transcend site you see that there are no standard SD cards in a 4gb size.
This leads me to believe that the info I have been reading regarding this is correct. If the manufacturers are really putting out 4gb cards, why are they not on their official websites?
But the point remains that these 4gb cards (hacked or not) do indeed work in the Trinity (as well as other devices.) It's just for how long that is the question. I just want to find out with what regularity these cards dying so we can judge whether or not it is a worthy risk to buy one and trust our precious data to it.
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
psargent said:
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
My Topram 4gb miniSD continues to faithfully work in my Trinity. I don't know anything about this ebay vendor, this link is just for info http://item.express.ebay.com/TOPRAM...320102528838QQihZ011QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressItem. It came packaged like an authentic card, some others have no professional packaging. Perhaps it will give up one day, if it does I'll report it right away. I know there has been quite a few people stating that their miniSD cards have quit on them, which I'm sure is true, but I can't help but believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, meaning that people that have no problems with their cards are less likely to post results.
I've been using a 4gb card in my Trinity for about a month now.
Gave me a few problems with Media player at one stage. The MSME files for the library dissappeared and I couldnt get them deleted to fix the media library problem.
Put the card in my desktop reader and suddenly they appeared again!!
Since then - no probs. Have it well filled up with mixeded media and prog files.
Matterhorn said:
The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
psargent said:
Hello all,
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
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Wouldnt it stand to reason that if they were 2gb cards "hacked" to 4gb they wouldnt have the capability to store 4gb worth of data? What you are inferring is the "Tardis" effect. Bigger on the inside than the outside which to my knowledge is not currently possible. A bit like having a normal sized mini car with 7 MPV seats inside. I think is just a matter of intermittent hardware to hardware clash/incompatibility not a 2gb hack.
Must admit,have suffered from the card corruption syndrome for the first time in my life whilst using the M700 trinity.Talk about heart attack!!!! The thing that makes me think it is a hardware compatability issue is that I have used that same 4gb miniSD in my wizard variants,prophet variants,treo's etc for over 7months no stress. Hence I know the card is good (thanx mobymemory!)
4GB Problems
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted - "no maps found" and hundreds of smiley faces in File Explorer. I was always able to reformat and start over, but soon got tired of that. Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter) or when in a card reader on the PC. I got rid of the card and got a Kingston 2GB and have had no problems since.
I just got more TomTom maps and am trying to decide whether to take the plunge again. Anyone got any positive 4GB stories?
gynkotek said:
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted
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So far so good, happens the same to me
gynkotek said:
Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter)
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I do not have the Jam but tested on my XDAII and works perfectly!!
How can I format it?
well i have a 4gb trans. SD 150x it works in my other mp3 player now for a long time, but as far as mini i dont know
i got a topram atm and it seems like it worked for a format or 2 and died after didnt even get to use it in my pocketPC, sending RMA request now :/
i was really looking forward to hear more good news about the 4gb topram miniSD but i dont know atm
I think maybe the poll should be changed to include SDHC cards since that is a variable that is very important on judging the 4gb cards. SDHC cards work but are just not reliable yet in the current roms.
psargent said:
I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
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Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
saminegm said:
Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
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Oh ye of little faith
I bought mine from an ebay shop. You won't find them in Germany because they are from Asia and they're not marketed here. It came in sealed plastic and looked very professionally packaged. As far as the web site goes...how up to date are half the manufacturers web sites on the web?...not very.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=4gb+miniSD+topram&category0=
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
mmone3 said:
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
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That's very good news. Thanks for that info!
good morning guys.
let me share some information i have about flash memory.
few month ago one big electronic shop in my ciy was offering usb flash disk of sizes up to 16 gb. in very cheap price.
alot of my frinds buy that memory.
after few days alot of them returen to the shop to exchange them becuse the memory damged.
some of them did not have anyproblem untile today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reason is .
these memory are just 4 gb memeory and haked to be like 16 gb.
so if u try to write one bite over 4 gb you will start write this bite over the first bite of card and you will damge the data on that bite. and maybe the card will not be usable again.
this hake is known to be used on other media before flash memorys.
it was used in some hard disk to foll consumers.
the same story here.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
hssona said:
good morning guys.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
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This theory has been proven to be not true over and over again...search the forums.
hm, hello and from me..
I bought 4 gb minisd Albatron, and after 2 days, the card just stopped. I tryed to format it, but no success. The card just died. After that i read this topic and searched on the albatron site to find some mini sd 4 gb card, and i cant find... after that i exchange the card with 1 gb Kingston and since then - no problems at all.. And i think that this 4 gb minisd cards are really hacked and if you have luck - you may use it maybe 5-6 months.. but i really dont buy 4 gb card, until the manufacturer says that they have one.
Regards,
4Gb Topram mini SD - fine. I've used 2 of these and they have been OK.
2Gb Transcend mini SD - useless. Would corrupt in a few hours no matter what I tried.
1Gb O2 branded mini SD - fine.
I'm still using a generic 4GB card that I bought of EBay and its settling down fine after about 3 months use. although at times, it can be just about noticably slow.
I've had a lot of trouble with the card 'dissappearing' ow and again and the Media Player library going awol. However, the fix's for those problems are well published on other threads.
I purschased a Sandisk 4GB SDHC card hoping it might be a bit faster, th Trinity cant even see it!! So much for SDHC support.

SD 8GB working with Kaiser

Hello folks, this is my first post.
I want to buy a SD card for my Kaiser (-> T-Mobile Germany MDA Vario III to be exact).
Each time I call the service, i get a different answer. Sometimes the SDHC works with the Kaiser, sometimes only the SD does, sometimes the 8GB would work but sometimes the Kaiser can only take cards up to 4GB.
So my question to this awesome forum is:
1. Do 8GB SD cards work with a T-Mobile Germany MDA Vario III?
2. Does a T-Mobile Germany MDA Vario III take SD as well as SDHC cards?
Thanks in advance!
Hi. I see no reason why the a German version of MDA Vario III wouldn't accept an 8GB memory card. The TyTNII (registered name) is SDHC enabled and I have read on numerous websites that it has the ability to accept memory cards of up to 32GB.
I, like you, have the T Mobile MDA Vario III, only I live in the UK. I'd think that different brand names for practically the same device (TyTNII) would be fundamentally simmilar, and that if a TyTNII and UK T mobile MDA Vario III could accept an 8GB SDHC card, then it would be no different with the German MDA Vario III.
I am currently looking for the best 8GB memory card, with memory card reader too. Tell you what, get an 8GB memory card, and if it somehow doesn't work, just return it and explain that you had good reason to believe that it was compatible with your device
Mine is arriving from MemoryBits.co.uk very soon hopefully. £43.62 (+p&p) with USB card reader.
I'll let you know if it works!
ok! thanks both of you a lot! ill probably buy one and then return if it doesn't work, just as one of you proposed (the number guy )
(btw, thanks for the awesome fast response)
one problem is, you know, its the 20 december and id like to have it on the 24th for obvious reasons, so i think i cant afford waiting until you get yours, but still AWESOME thanks, foaf!!!
Boy are we in the same boat I received my sdhc 8gb just in time for Xmas but the Tytn 2 is still under the tree in its box :/
Sandisk provides the tiniest usb reader ever! I had trouble removing the micro card without breaking a nail
I also noticed that the card was formatted in fat32. So here comes a noob question: I assume there's no ntfs in winmobile?
coincoinlapin said:
Boy are we in the same boat I received my sdhc 8gb just in time for Xmas but the Tytn 2 is still under the tree in its box :/
Sandisk provides the tiniest usb reader ever! I had trouble removing the micro card without breaking a nail
I also noticed that the card was formatted in fat32. So here comes a noob question: I assume there's no ntfs in winmobile?
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adata has the smallest, thinest and at present, the fastest micro sd card reader, also any micro sd upto 2gb is set to format at fat 16 and fat 32 from the window os, for 4gb and over Fat 32.
foaf said:
Mine is arriving from MemoryBits.co.uk very soon hopefully. £43.62 (+p&p) with USB card reader.
I'll let you know if it works!
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Memory bits is one of the options I'm considering.
Ive also been considering the following an 8GB memory card-
BUNDLE Sandisk 8GB Micro SD (SDHC) memory card with Sandisk USB reader- £50.99 (shipping is free) moby memory is highly recommended for efficiency from what I've seen on other forums
http://www.mobymemory.com/phone-memory/T-Mobile/MDA-Vario-III-memory-cards.asp
and
A-DATA 8GB Turbo Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) Class 6 Memory Card - Retail Package (Free Ground Shipping - $57.99
http://www.supermediastore.com/a-data-turbo-sdhc-8gb-class-6-memory-card.html
I'm not sure however if this is microsd or minisd. It doesn't seem very clear
Not micro or mini
246810 said:
and
A-DATA 8GB Turbo Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) Class 6 Memory Card - Retail Package (Free Ground Shipping - $57.99
http://www.supermediastore.com/a-data-turbo-sdhc-8gb-class-6-memory-card.html
I'm not sure however if this is microsd or minisd. It doesn't seem very clear
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That one is a standard size SD card.
cushcalc said:
That one is a standard size SD card.
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Thanks. Its misleading for it have SDHC in its title. How do you knows its a standard SD card?
No it's not, as SDHC is the newer format required to go above 4GB and it's on available on MicroSD, MiniSD, and SD Cards.
246810 said:
Memory bits is one of the options I'm considering.
Ive also been considering the following an 8GB memory card-
BUNDLE Sandisk 8GB Micro SD (SDHC) memory card with Sandisk USB reader- £50.99 (shipping is free) moby memory is highly recommended for efficiency from what I've seen on other forums
http://www.mobymemory.com/phone-memory/T-Mobile/MDA-Vario-III-memory-cards.asp
and
A-DATA 8GB Turbo Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) Class 6 Memory Card - Retail Package (Free Ground Shipping - $57.99
http://www.supermediastore.com/a-data-turbo-sdhc-8gb-class-6-memory-card.html
I'm not sure however if this is microsd or minisd. It doesn't seem very clear
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This one works with the TyTN II:
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/...SDHC)-memory-card-with-Sandisk-USB-reader.asp
I've been using it for 2 weeks. It works quite well (been able to load up to 6.5GB of data on the card ).
frav said:
This one works with the TyTN II:
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/...SDHC)-memory-card-with-Sandisk-USB-reader.asp
I've been using it for 2 weeks. It works quite well (been able to load up to 6.5GB of data on the card ).
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I have same card and I can use 7782.50MB...
_Dejan_ said:
I have same card and I can use 7782.50MB...
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i get roughly the same.
kms
I just ordered a 8GB card - can't wait to get it
Do you guys use the Cardreader or go through the USB Active Sync?
It seems taking the micro SD card out all the time would break the little plastic bit covering it :-(
you don't have to take the card out for just normal use, but if your going to be loading a lot of music or a couple movies at one time you might want to take it out of the phone and use the card reader cause it is much faseter.
Yea, I just ordered the 8 GB Sandisk from ebay. Should be here any day now. I can't wait!!!
Although in a few months when there's a 16 GB card out, we'll all be sad.
Damn technology.
I got an 8GB Sandisk for Christmas and it came with a SanDisk card reader. Looks like a little USB jump drive and you just slide the MicroSD in it.
I had to use it to format the old 2GB MicroSD I was using as when my daughter tried to put it into here Blackberry Curve the Blackberry objected profusely. LOL
Funny thing is all I did was throw the USB adapter in a Vista box and it recommended fat32. I wonder what format was on it when it was in my Tilt?
If it was Fat32 why the hell did it need formating?

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