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512MB MiniSD + Adapter With MDA Pro Standard??

Hi
Am I just lucky or did everyone get one of these?? I never saw it advertised as a part of the package. It was in the same compartment as the USB cable and PSU.
512MB miniSD card and an adapter so you can shove it into an SD slot (both Sandisk)
Nigel

Nah no such luck for me - O2 aren't including anything with theirs that I could find.
Did stick my 1gig card in and was happily listening to some tunes though when it cut out twice - read up that it might be the card needing reformatted so I've done that and need to monitor how well it works.

I also got on with my mda's too, t-mobile customer services said it was to address the low storage concerns with the devices, to avoid a large amount of returns.
Nothing with the M5000 tho, but lukily I had a 1GB from XDA

Expensive way to do it. MiniSD+Adapter as opposed to just sending an SD card!! I shall ebay it - got a gig already!
Nigel

I was going to ebay mine, but im glad i didnt as i had to send my mda back, but maybe they wouldnt mind if it wasnt there on return of a fault.
Maybe worth keeping for a few weeks till your sure the device is ok.

Got 512mb with each of 2 T-Mob MDA Pro's, but nothing with my O2 Exec.

2GB mini SD on ebay UK

Wondering what people's thoughts are on this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Speed-2G...593065570QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's not a 'big' brand and the price seems very cheap for a 2GB card.
John

After shipping it's about 20-25 quid cheaper than retail and it claims to be a 150x (22meg a second transfers card).
Only had my Wizard a week and took me a few days to actually find 2gb Mini-SD's in stock with a UK retailer.
I ended up with this:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_2048mb_MOBY_001
However, some of the card readers I have will not read the card via the provided SD adapter - I was warned of this and do have a newish card reader which does, as does the one in my laptop.
Works fine in the Wizard though and tbh speed to me is unimportant considering the speed of the devices processor.
If you get one and have success with it, please drop a note back.

I have seen the Mobymemory one, their price for the 1GB card seems unbeatable pretty much but I'm tempted by this 2GB card as I can get the postage cheaper using a Paypal code as well.
John

I had a Zynet SD card for my XDA2s. It worked beautifully, and continues to work in my digital camera.
I got A 'MyFlash' 2gb 60x mini-sd card off ebay last week. It took like 6 days tops to get here and works great, even in my tempermental in-built SD reader.

How much did you pay for the Myflash one?
Thanks for the feedback on Zynet, tempted to go for this now.
John

Came to about £80 including shipping and insurance
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7589600960&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
I remember reading somewhere that a higher speed SD card will drain the XDA battery faster.

If you're not looking for the fast cards, some reasonable prices here as well:
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Mini-SD
The 2G Sandisk card isn't actually in stock with them yet though.
John

1G is more than enough 4 me...-_-#

I was kinda hoping of picking this up...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EEZEVC/104-8849050-7307124?_encoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
But I don't know if I can wait until May!

I've decided to go for a 1GB card for now, I can always buy another 1GB card so both my HTC devices can benefit from it.
John

4 gig cards are meant to start shipping this month.
OK - i know they will start at an unrealistic premium - but does anyone know if 4 gig (or more that that which is likely to be out by summer) will work in the wizard?

Seems cheap for a 2Gb memory card of any size. I'd recommend mymemory.co.uk for memory cards, and they have a 2Gb Sandisk MicroSD for £54.99.
Seems cheap to me, but sandisk's one of the best makes for memory cards.

i use the moby memory2gb minisd - 80ish quid delivered next day and works well

I think are more cheap at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-2G-mini-SD-...74095023QQcategoryZ118260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I will buy one!

Echilon said:
Seems cheap for a 2Gb memory card of any size. I'd recommend mymemory.co.uk for memory cards, and they have a 2Gb Sandisk MicroSD for £54.99.
Seems cheap to me, but sandisk's one of the best makes for memory cards.
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I have used them often and they offer a good service (based in the chanel islands). However they have been out of stock of the 2 gig cards for a while now.
They have a facility whereby you give them your email and they will contact you when the cards return to stock.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/item_out_of_stock.php?id=1239
Incidentally, I have had only one memory card fail on me, and it was the sandisk 32 meg that came with the siemens SL45 as standard.
The SL45 seemed years before its time - it seems crazy to think there were phones with memory cards in 2000 and even now a minority have them.

T-mobile MDA/Sandisk 2GB

I want to get a 2GB Sandisk and I was wondering what is the cheapest way to get all of the 2gb to work on the tmobile mda? I heard i gotta buy a card reader or something but is this the only way? also what is the best brand 2GB/Card Reader (if i have to get a card reader)? Is 2GB the highest I can go with the MDA? thats all I hear people talking about.
Also what exactly would I need a 128mb backup card for? I already changed to the custom rom (2.17) so im j/w what its for

the cheapest way would be to put the card in your pda and transfer the data you want to it, no card reader needed, tho a card readers faster

so what exactly is the point of the card reader? I've read about some people being limited to 1gb with the 2gb miniSD cards

sorry end of my post should have read, a card reader writes faster.
think speed is the advantage

Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.

markgamber said:
Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.
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what exactly is faster? the transfer with a card reader? just a little confused what brand should I be goin with for both?

can anyone help with the brand for the miniSD and the card reader? Have seen people post about problems with formatting ni such

I personally use a generic 2gb card I bought off eBay for a total of $60.00 US. Similar to http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-MiniSD-2GB-...temZ9705544950QQcategoryZ118260QQcmdZViewItem.
The reader I use I also got off eBay (it came with a 256mb MMC card I bought about a year ago for my old phone). It is basically the same as http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-SD-MMC-...94559134QQcategoryZ103409QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
Copying 1gb worth of MP3 files to the card using ActiveSync 4.1 takes about 20 minutes. Copying them using the card reader only takes about 5 minutes.
Hope that helps.

i got a sandisk one off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
ordered myself one last week 2GB SANDISK MINISD , got it saturday just gone and no problems £49 total including p&p + insurance
think there going for £45 UKP inc p&p now

scrap that £41 inc p&p!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2GB-SANDISK-M...605200179QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SanDisk are a good reliable maker of memory cards and cheap. I have not had one fail on me yet. 2GB is the highest anyone makes at the moment on MiniSD. As for card readers, anything made in the last year should work as you just use an adaptor to put the MiniSD into a SD slot, if it doesn't have a MiniSD slot. Oh yes, SanDisk MiniSD cards come with the adaptor.

Has anyone focused on the SLC / MLC flash-chip layouts being used?
SLC is faster, more reliable, better compatible, lower power consumption and has longer lifetime but is more expensive. Chip mainly made by Samsung.
Mobymemory sells them in uk @ approx 60 GBP
MLC is the opposite. Chip mainly made by Toshiba. Branded as Sandisk, Kingston and others.
It is rumoured that a lot of high speeds cards are all SLC, but until now I havent found any confirmation.

Cheapest place for 2gb minisd plus card reader

Im looking for something like this...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOPRAM-2gb-mi...9QQihZ011QQcategoryZ96991QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Preferably with the card reader to be able to attach to a key ring like a memory stick.
Thanks!

Seems reasonable, so why dont you buy it ?

yeah..... it is cheap.... (even the price listed is less than the postal charges .... but when the bid closes will be knowing what the final price!....)

For those in the US
I got in on this deal over the holiday weekend with free shipping. Ground shipping will add about $6 to the order. Still not a bad deal for 2Gb. I paid $69.99 plus shipping not that long ago for a Sandisc 2Gb card that I managed to lose in a drunken birthday celebration. This is an 80x replacement that holds its own against the Sandisc card.
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4858780

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820233032 is what I got...I know it is a 1GB, but you can check for the 2GB ones on newegg's website...they also have cheap 9/10 in one readers there.[/url]

I use pricegrabber.com to compare prices across a variety of sites.

Do you really think thats a good price? I was hoping to sneak one for like £20 off ebay but I think I may be dreaming.
Im really after the card ready that will fit onto my key ring but cant find any anywhere :-(
Does anyone know when the new size cards will be out?

Did anyone notice the $46 shipping fee to the U.S., slightly less to U.K.? This could mark a new record for price gouging for shipping on Ebay.

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Chris - if I was you I would stay clear of cheap mini-sd cards. If you read the posts where the card goes wrong its usually the cheap variety! I use mobymemory 2gb card - £40 but worth it! I can record 320 x 240 video using coolcamera with no slowdown compared to main memory - now that rocks!

Are Sandisk cards okay?
I have a 1gb one and havent had any troubles

chrisredmayne said:
Are Sandisk cards okay?
I have a 1gb one and havent had any troubles
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Yep they are of better quality too - occ user has had to format the card on the device but cant recall reading any other problems.

meschle said:
chrisredmayne said:
Are Sandisk cards okay?
I have a 1gb one and havent had any troubles
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Yep they are of better quality too - occ user has had to format the card on the device but cant recall reading any other problems.
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ya I've had good experience with the SanDisk cards. I bought a Corsair Card this time around. It was a tad bit more...but I felt it was worth it considering the cost of this phone.

meschle said:
Chris - if I was you I would stay clear of cheap mini-sd cards. If you read the posts where the card goes wrong its usually the cheap variety! I use mobymemory 2gb card - £40 but worth it! I can record 320 x 240 video using coolcamera with no slowdown compared to main memory - now that rocks!
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Mobymemory.com 8)
Think it's just a shade over £40 for sandisk 2gb + usb 2.0 reader, that's what I ordered just recently

4 GB Mini SD durability poll

Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.

psargent said:
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.

Matterhorn said:
Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
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I think it does apply to standard size SD cards too:
I looked at the Sandisk site and the only 4 gig cards that were being sold were listed as SDHC. Nothing on the official site over 2gb that wasn't high capacity. I was able to track down the Trancend card you were talking about from a reseller (and numerous other ones including Ebay) however, if you go to the official Transcend site you see that there are no standard SD cards in a 4gb size.
This leads me to believe that the info I have been reading regarding this is correct. If the manufacturers are really putting out 4gb cards, why are they not on their official websites?
But the point remains that these 4gb cards (hacked or not) do indeed work in the Trinity (as well as other devices.) It's just for how long that is the question. I just want to find out with what regularity these cards dying so we can judge whether or not it is a worthy risk to buy one and trust our precious data to it.
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.

psargent said:
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
My Topram 4gb miniSD continues to faithfully work in my Trinity. I don't know anything about this ebay vendor, this link is just for info http://item.express.ebay.com/TOPRAM...320102528838QQihZ011QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressItem. It came packaged like an authentic card, some others have no professional packaging. Perhaps it will give up one day, if it does I'll report it right away. I know there has been quite a few people stating that their miniSD cards have quit on them, which I'm sure is true, but I can't help but believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, meaning that people that have no problems with their cards are less likely to post results.

I've been using a 4gb card in my Trinity for about a month now.
Gave me a few problems with Media player at one stage. The MSME files for the library dissappeared and I couldnt get them deleted to fix the media library problem.
Put the card in my desktop reader and suddenly they appeared again!!
Since then - no probs. Have it well filled up with mixeded media and prog files.

Matterhorn said:
The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.

psargent said:
Hello all,
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
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Wouldnt it stand to reason that if they were 2gb cards "hacked" to 4gb they wouldnt have the capability to store 4gb worth of data? What you are inferring is the "Tardis" effect. Bigger on the inside than the outside which to my knowledge is not currently possible. A bit like having a normal sized mini car with 7 MPV seats inside. I think is just a matter of intermittent hardware to hardware clash/incompatibility not a 2gb hack.
Must admit,have suffered from the card corruption syndrome for the first time in my life whilst using the M700 trinity.Talk about heart attack!!!! The thing that makes me think it is a hardware compatability issue is that I have used that same 4gb miniSD in my wizard variants,prophet variants,treo's etc for over 7months no stress. Hence I know the card is good (thanx mobymemory!)

4GB Problems
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted - "no maps found" and hundreds of smiley faces in File Explorer. I was always able to reformat and start over, but soon got tired of that. Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter) or when in a card reader on the PC. I got rid of the card and got a Kingston 2GB and have had no problems since.
I just got more TomTom maps and am trying to decide whether to take the plunge again. Anyone got any positive 4GB stories?

gynkotek said:
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted
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So far so good, happens the same to me
gynkotek said:
Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter)
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I do not have the Jam but tested on my XDAII and works perfectly!!
How can I format it?

well i have a 4gb trans. SD 150x it works in my other mp3 player now for a long time, but as far as mini i dont know
i got a topram atm and it seems like it worked for a format or 2 and died after didnt even get to use it in my pocketPC, sending RMA request now :/
i was really looking forward to hear more good news about the 4gb topram miniSD but i dont know atm

I think maybe the poll should be changed to include SDHC cards since that is a variable that is very important on judging the 4gb cards. SDHC cards work but are just not reliable yet in the current roms.

psargent said:
I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
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Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.

saminegm said:
Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
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Oh ye of little faith
I bought mine from an ebay shop. You won't find them in Germany because they are from Asia and they're not marketed here. It came in sealed plastic and looked very professionally packaged. As far as the web site goes...how up to date are half the manufacturers web sites on the web?...not very.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=4gb+miniSD+topram&category0=

My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.

mmone3 said:
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
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That's very good news. Thanks for that info!

good morning guys.
let me share some information i have about flash memory.
few month ago one big electronic shop in my ciy was offering usb flash disk of sizes up to 16 gb. in very cheap price.
alot of my frinds buy that memory.
after few days alot of them returen to the shop to exchange them becuse the memory damged.
some of them did not have anyproblem untile today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reason is .
these memory are just 4 gb memeory and haked to be like 16 gb.
so if u try to write one bite over 4 gb you will start write this bite over the first bite of card and you will damge the data on that bite. and maybe the card will not be usable again.
this hake is known to be used on other media before flash memorys.
it was used in some hard disk to foll consumers.
the same story here.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .

hssona said:
good morning guys.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
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This theory has been proven to be not true over and over again...search the forums.

hm, hello and from me..
I bought 4 gb minisd Albatron, and after 2 days, the card just stopped. I tryed to format it, but no success. The card just died. After that i read this topic and searched on the albatron site to find some mini sd 4 gb card, and i cant find... after that i exchange the card with 1 gb Kingston and since then - no problems at all.. And i think that this 4 gb minisd cards are really hacked and if you have luck - you may use it maybe 5-6 months.. but i really dont buy 4 gb card, until the manufacturer says that they have one.
Regards,

4Gb Topram mini SD - fine. I've used 2 of these and they have been OK.
2Gb Transcend mini SD - useless. Would corrupt in a few hours no matter what I tried.
1Gb O2 branded mini SD - fine.

I'm still using a generic 4GB card that I bought of EBay and its settling down fine after about 3 months use. although at times, it can be just about noticably slow.
I've had a lot of trouble with the card 'dissappearing' ow and again and the Media Player library going awol. However, the fix's for those problems are well published on other threads.
I purschased a Sandisk 4GB SDHC card hoping it might be a bit faster, th Trinity cant even see it!! So much for SDHC support.